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== Unsourced == |
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==Soap or Drama Series?== |
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Is there a reference for this statement: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera#Ireland “… RTÉ wanted a drama series for its Sunday night lineup rather than a soap opera, On Home Ground (2001–2002), The Clinic (2002–2009) and RAW (2010–2013) replaced the agri-soaps of the previous decades.“] <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Laura howard ie|Laura howard ie]] ([[User talk:Laura howard ie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Laura howard ie|contribs]]) 20:46, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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How is this a B-class article? Many sections contain no references at all. We have assertions for various series' popularity without citing any ratings. We mention regional differences in the genre and its formats, without citing any reliable sources. This seems to be original research, and likely reflects the POV of Wikipedia's editors. [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 05:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC) |
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==Latin América?== |
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Latin America's melodramas are extremely important in the history of the genre. Where are they here? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/190.174.88.159|190.174.88.159]] ([[User talk:190.174.88.159|talk]]) 22:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Agreed. I cannot believe there is not one single mention of Latin American soap operas, which are not only influential worldwide (e.g. ''Maria La Del Barrio's'' influence in Europe and Asia, but also often have higher primetime ratings in the U.S. than English-language television programming). [[User:Cumbiagermen|Cumbiagermen]] ([[User talk:Cumbiagermen|talk]]) 23:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC) |
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==Procter&Gamble== |
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I think a small excerpt on the name origins of the term "Soap opera" would be informative. Being that many of them were sponsored by [[Procter_&_Gamble#Productions|Procter & Gamble]], which is a company that manufacturers soap. I mean if we can get a citation on it of course.{{unsigned IP|24.208.74.79|20:42, June 14, 2013}} |
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== Longest opera is not Guiding Light anymore == |
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==TV Series aka Soap Operas== |
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The following TV series could be looked upon as "Soaps" depending on your point of view: |
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**Every sequel series of [[Star Trek]] {orginal series} {including MOVIES} |
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**[[The Sopranos]]-everyone's favortie gangster family. |
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**Any other canidates? |
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Assuming ''The Archers'' is still going, in 2022 they surpassed ''Guiding Light'' in runtime length. (72 years) [[User:Curuwen|Curuwen]] ([[User talk:Curuwen|talk]]) 23:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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I AGREE ON TV SERIES AS SOAPS!!! |
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== Not all dictionaries say that for something to be properly called a "soap opera", it has to be long-running, according to how the term is commonly understood. == |
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*Another canidates would be the mini-series [[Centennial (novel)]] and any other mimi-series based on novels-or based on movies-such as [[MASH]]. |
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"Link to [[Centennial (TV miniseries)]]-{When TNT showed this series for 3 months straight for hours on end-it killed any chance of me being a Soap Opera fan!!} |
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I happen to have the second edition of the '''<u>Oxford English dictionary</u>, which is considered an English-language authority by some.''' It doesn't say that for something to be correctly labelled as a "soap opera", it has be long-running. |
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Surely Downton Abbey should be included here as well? It seems to meet much of the criteria for a soap opera. Thoughts? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Divemast|Divemast]] ([[User talk:Divemast|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Divemast|contribs]]) 23:41, 22 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I do know that many English-language dictionaries are descriptivist, but I think that this Wikipedia article should at least mention this nuance, as per its Neutral Point of View policy. |
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[https://www.google.com/search?q=soap+opera+def| Google Dictionary] |
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==Novels as Sopa Operas?== |
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*How about popular novels as "Soap Operas"? ANy canidates?? All of James Michner's semi-fictional/faction novels for example would be Number one in my listing! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.83.126.88|74.83.126.88]] ([[User talk:74.83.126.88|talk]]) 13:11, 29 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soap%20opera| Meriam Wesbster] |
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==Overlong list of spoofs== |
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[https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/soap-opera| Collins Dictionary] |
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Below moved here from article: |
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[https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/soap-opera| Oxford Learners Dictionary] |
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* Within the story of Australian soap opera ''Prisoner'' two characters in the 1985 season became addicted to daytime serial ''Days of the Week'' and would eagerly discuss plot twists within the fictional show. |
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* On British television, comedian [[Victoria Wood]] had a long-running spoof soap entitled ''[[Acorn Antiques]]'' on her sketch show (loosely based on ITV's ''[[Crossroads (TV series)|Crossroads]]''). |
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* In the United States, [[Carol Burnett]] frequently ran a soap opera spoof on her show, called ''[[As the Stomach Turns]]'', modeled in name after ''[[As the World Turns]]''. Dramatic coincidences and missed cues (parodying a time in which soap operas were broadcast live) were seen frequently, as well as the melodramatic welling of [[organ (music)|organ]] music, which was a staple on American serials until the 1970s. |
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* [[David Lynch|David Lynch's]] TV series ''[[Twin Peaks]]'' featured a soap opera called ''[[Twin Peaks#Invitation to Love|Invitation to Love]]'', of which clips were shown occasionally. |
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* A frequent staple of ''[[The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson]]'' was a soap opera spoof involving unsuspecting members of the studio audience called ''The Edge of Wetness'', the title of which is a takeoff on ''[[The Edge of Night]]''. |
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* ''[[Futurama]]'' frequently features scenes from an almost all-robot soap, called ''[[All My Circuits]]''. The robot [[Calculon]] is the show's star. |
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* The U.S. comedy team of [[Bob and Ray]] produced regular spoofs of many different [[radio]] programs, and later of several [[television]] programs, all presented on their long-running (1946-1987) radio programs. The best-known, which included a new episode with a [[cliffhanger]] ending daily, was ''Mary Backstayge, Noble Wife'', a play on the radio soap ''Mary Noble, Backstage Wife''. |
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* In the episode of ''[[Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends]]'' entitled "Berry Scary", the plot twists in the episode resemble those in a spoof of ''[[The Young and the Restless]]'' entitled ''The Loved and the Loveless''. |
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* Australian [[sketch comedy]] series ''[[Fast Forward (TV series)|Fast Forward]]'' featured the recurring ''Dumb Street'' skit, which parodied soap operas in general, but in particular the then current shows ''[[Neighbours]]'', ''[[Home and Away]]'', ''[[E Street]]'' and ''[[A Country Practice]]''. ''Fast Forward'' also featured ''Rampant Stupidity'' a recurring skit which spoofed melodramatic series in the ''[[Dallas]]'' and ''[[Dynasty (1981 TV series)|Dynasty]]'' mold. |
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* "Moody's Point", a soap spoof appearing on several episodes of ''[[The Amanda Show]]''. |
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* ''[[U-Pick Live]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s "As The World Picks" segments. |
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* ''[[Queer as Folk (U.S.)|Queer as Folk's]]'' show-within-a-show ''Gay as Blazes'' which humorously parodies Queer as Folk itself. |
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* ''[[The Muppet Show]]'' parodied medical serials such as ''[[General Hospital (US TV Series)|General Hospital]]'' and ''[[The Doctors (1963 TV series)|The Doctors]]'' in the skit ''Veterinarians' Hospital''. |
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* ''[[Tootsie]]'' centered around a fictional soap opera ''Southwest General'', a spoof of ''[[General Hospital]]''. |
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* ''[[Second City Television|SCTV]]'' featured the soap opera parody ''Days of the Week'' (an obvious reference to ''[[Days of our Lives]]''). The intricate storyline, which ran as a recurring segment on the sketch show, featured such soap opera clichés as amnesia, terminal illness, the return of long-lost relatives, disastrous weddings, and court-room trials. |
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* Sitcom ''[[Moesha]]'' featured an episode that parodied ''The Young and the Restless''. Entitled ''The Mo' and the Restless'', this episode spoofed Y&R even to its opening. |
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* On the sitcom ''[[The Parkers]]'' one episode consisted of a ''Dallas''/''Dynasty'' parody. |
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* "Palm Beach", a skit on ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' which lampooned the 2000 US Presidential election, featured an opening titles sequence that parodied that of ''The Young and the Restless''. |
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* ''[[Sunset Beach (TV series)|Sunset Beach]]'' featured a parody within itself. During one of the Thanksgiving episodes, the soap did a nod to VH1's ''[[Pop-Up Video]]'' by conveniently pointing out to viewers that a turkey baster used to baste a turkey wasn't the same one used in a storyline where one of the characters was impregnated by a turkey baster. |
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* The musical comedian and parodist [[Spike Jones]] recorded the spoof track "None But The Lonely Heart (A Soaperetta)" in the 1940s. |
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*In the ''[[That '70s Show]]'' episode entitled "Vanstock", an out-of-work [[Red Forman|Red]] becomes addicted to soap operas and has a dream in which he and [[Kitty Forman|his wife]] play roles on a soap called ''Point Place''. The soap parody pokes fun at stereotypically "cheap" production (boom microphones peeking into the camera shot), "cheesy" soap dialogue and crying, and [[organ (music)|organ music]]. |
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:''Red: Oh, Kitty. What have I become?'' |
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:''Kitty: I don't know! You're not the man I married! And I'm not Kitty!'' |
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*In the ''[[Red Dwarf]]'' episode "Kryten", [[Kryten]] watches a soap named ''Androids'', a parody of Neighbours. |
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* The [[Sally Field]]/[[Kevin Kline]] comedy ''[[Soapdish]]'' was a soap opera parody with a soap-within-a-soap, ''The Sun Also Sets''. |
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* The 1990s sitcom ''Martin'' featured references to Pam and Gina's favorite soap opera, "All My Young'ns", whose title is spoofed from ''[[All My Children]]''. |
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* In the music video for the [[Queen (band)|Queen]] song ''[[I Want to Break Free]]'' the band are dressed in a manner inspired by the dress and aesthetic of ''[[Coronation Street]]''. |
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* In the television show ''[[The Simpsons]]'' there is a recurring soap opera called ''Search For the Sun'', including such satirical situations as a man entering a room dressed as a reverend, followed by a naked blonde woman, who was in the middle of love making, saying "Father McGraff, I thought you were dead!" while trying to cover her naked body, to which he replies "I was." |
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* The radio show ''[[The Cumberland Sausage Show]]'', on the British commercial station CFM Radio, parodies British soap operas with 'Thongsbury', their very own soap named after a fictional Cumbrian town. |
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* On ''[[Blue Collar TV]]'', an episode featured a segment of "White Trash Days of our Lives". |
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* In 1958, the American composer [[Douglas Moore]] wrote the soap opera parody "Gallantry" which centered around love between an anesthetist and a patient. In keeping with the style of the early soaps, the opera is introduced as being sponsored by "Lochinvar soap" and "Billy Boy wax". |
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* ''[[MADtv|madTV]]'' parodied Korean soap operas with their sketch "Attitudes and Feelings, Both Desirable and Sometimes Secretive", starring [[Bobby Lee]]. |
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* In an episode of [[South Park]] in which [[Eric Cartman]] tries to find out who his father is, the episode ends with melodramatic narration ("Who is Eric Cartman's father?"), close-ups of each character and organ music, before the narrator says "the answer on a new episode of South Park in four weeks", to which Eric replies "son of a bitch". |
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* In the series ''[[Friends]]'', in a recurring storyline, [[Joey Tribbiani|Joey]] gets a role in ''[[Days of our Lives]]'' as Dr. Drake Ramoray. Spoof scenes from the soap featuring Joey in this role are shown in a number of ''Friends'' episodes. |
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* "[[Trapped in the Closet]]" from R.Kelly is a song series that has soap opera traits. |
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* In ''[[Ballykissangel]]'', Fitzgerald's pub gets satellite television installed and some of the regulars become addicted to a South American soap - despite not understanding a single word of dialogue. |
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* In ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV series)|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' bad boy vampire Spike is a frequent watcher of [[Passions]] and becomes very upset when he misses it. |
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* In ''[[Sunset Beach (TV series)|Sunset Beach]]'' the character of [[Annie Douglas Richards]] summises that her life is becoming 'like a soap opera', this led to numerous 1960's soap opera inspired sequences entitled ''Search For Dignity'', the title being a nod to ''[[Search for Tomorrow]]''. |
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* On the final episode of ''[[The Elephant Show]]'', [[Sharon, Lois & Bram]] did a parody of ''[[All My Children]]'' entitled ''All My Doctors''. |
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* In 1994, [[Anthony Geary]] & [[Genie Francis]] were invited to make a cameo as their ''[[General Hospital]]'' roles as Luke & Laura Spencer on ''[[Roseanne]]''. In return, Roseanne Barr was cast to briefly play Jennifer Smith on ''GH''. That same year, ''[[One Life to Live]]'''s [[Robert S. Woods]], [[John Loprieno]], & [[Clint Ritchie]] made a cameo as Bo, Cord, and Clint. Roseanne was watching an episode of ''[[OLTL]]'' while she visualized being involved in a storyline with those particular ''OLTL'' characters. |
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* The writers of ''The OC'' created a fictional show called "The Valley", which was basically the in-show equivalent of The O.C.. Characters frequently made ironic (and perhaps self-mocking) comments about "The Valley" and its fictional reality TV counterpart, "Sherman Oaks: The Real Valley" obviously referring back to the show Laguna Beach: The Real Orange County and its bold claim to be real. |
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* An episode of talk show ''[[Jerry Springer]]'' was dubbed "Gays of Our Lives" and dealt with several young people from the same small town, some of which were gay. |
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* One episode of ''[[The Golden Girls]]'' centered around the women of the house suffering from the flu, and during an argument over who would get to watch which TV show, Blanche ([[Rue McClanahan]]) wanted to watch ''[[Another World (TV series)|Another World]]''. This was somewhat ironic as McClanahan had actually appeared as Caroline Johnson (1970-1971), a nanny with eyes for the father of the kids she was supposed to watch over, on ''Another World''. |
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* A 2008 episode of ''[[The Big Gay Sketch Show]]'' featured a sketch parodying the 1980s prime time soap opera, ''[[Dynasty (1981 TV series)|Dynasty]]'', in which the sketch referenced several plotlines of the serial as well as parodying other characteristics of the show including the use of blurry cameras to hide the actress' aging, stunt doubles during the on-screen catfights and shoulder pads as fashion accessories. |
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* In September 2008 [[Kraft Canada]] debuted a web-based soap opera parody series called ''[[As the Cookie Crumbles]]'', set in a tea-house in fictional Glamora County. <ref>Kraft Bakes Up Love, Suspense, Cookies in Web Soap Opera - Brandweek [http://www.brandweek.com/bw/content_display/esearch/e3i5a9d5db89bd3dec37040ba1cb31ba06d]</ref> <ref>Canadian ‘Cookie’ Satisfies TV’s Soap Tooth - Tubefilter [http://news.tubefilter.tv/2008/09/30/canadian-cookie-satisfies-tvs-soap-tooth/]</ref> |
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[https://www.dictionary.com/browse/soap%20opera| Dictionary.com] |
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In all the billingual English-Portuguese dictionaries in which I looked that up, the translation given for the term "soap opera" is ''"telenovela"'' or simply ''"novela"''. That is true even for some billingual dictionaries which I consider high-quality such as the Cambridge English-Portuguese Dictionary. [[User:Semantism2|Semantism2]] ([[User talk:Semantism2|talk]]) 22:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC) |
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{{unsigned|Format|06:44, October 6, 2008}} |
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== Holidays == |
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Are soap operas aired on holidays? --[[Special:Contributions/88.76.224.94|88.76.224.94]] ([[User talk:88.76.224.94|talk]]) 17:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:In the US, soaps don't usually air on holidays such as Christmas, they do on other holidays. In the UK though, soaps dominate all the holiday schedules. Australian soaps take a six/eight-week break at the end of each year, but air on every other holiday throughout the year. [[User:AJ21SW|AJ21SW]] ([[User talk:AJ21SW|talk]]) 19:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== The Archers == |
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Since this seems to be the longest running soap opera - been broadcast continually since 1950, and still features some of the original cast, shouldn't it be mentioned here? [[The Archers]] definitely deserves a mention |
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:It has a mention in the UK section. Feel free to expand on it if you wish. [[User:AJ21SW|AJ21SW]] ([[User talk:AJ21SW|talk]]) 18:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC) |
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==Big Banners from 2009== |
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However I do not see any discussion about what the problems might be. It makes it difficult to address particular problems on such a long article as this, if the problem areas are not pointed out. It would help a lot if contentious things needing a reference could be marked {{fact}}. And which are the problem links? I really want to remove the banners because they aren't really helping in my opinion. [[User:Format|Format]] ([[User talk:Format|talk]]) 20:37, 10 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== ' Most UK soap operas focus on working-class communities.' == |
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'' Most UK soap operas focus on working-class communities.'' |
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Is this true? |
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*'''Coronation Street''' certainly was once about working-class inhabitants of a back-street but has been gentrified over the years (which is a little difficult to believe of a Salford back street). |
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*'''Brookside''' was set on a new build middle-class cul-de-sac and the characters from the start were either the working-class on the way up (The Grants, The Corkhills, The Taylors) or middle-class on the way down (The Collins, The Huntingdons, The Jordaches) and a lot of the dynamic revolved around the conflicting cultures among people who were all now 'lower middle class'. |
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*'''Emmerdale''' is mostly about farm-hands and such so I suppose it is a little about the agrarian working-class. |
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*'''Hollyoaks''' looks pretty posh whenever I've caught it, although I have to admit I have probably only seen a cumulative 5 minutes. |
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*'''Crossroads''' had a working-class culture as far as I remember but that was axed a hell of a long time ago. |
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*'''Eldorado''' was certainly not working-class. |
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*'''The Archers''' is a rural set soap like Emmerdale, however it certainly isn't working class, Emmerdale might be about a few farm hands but the Archers is full of annoying society people. I would say the Archers is feudal. |
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I've never seen '''Eastenders''' so you'll have to forgive me. |
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I think the above statement may have been true in the 1960s when Corrar was first started and Yorkshire/Lancashire set kitchen sink dramas were all the rage (particularly in film form - A kind of Loving, Billy Liar, A taste of Honey etc). I don't think it is so much the case now. [[User:Mtaylor848|Mtaylor848]] ([[User talk:Mtaylor848|talk]]) 18:14, 27 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:It is still a very true statement. Only a select few characters in each soap aren't working class, ''Emmerdale'' has a couple of rural estates which house the wealthy inhabitants of the village but it still sticks to it's roots by way of the central farming family (currently headed by [[John Barton (Emmerdale)|John Barton]]) and long-running typically Yorkshire characters such as [[Zak Dingle]]. ''Coronation Street'' hasn't changed too much from it's beginnings fifty years ago, of course most characters now own their own houses, and some run their own businesses, most notably a factory situated on the Street in which the owner does not live in the area but in a swanky apartment near the city - but most can still be described as working class. What's more working class than a bunch of factory workers? |
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:''EastEnders'' even more so. Very few have money, with the exception of the key Mitchell and Beale families, both of which have built up their business ventures over several years. Your perception of ''Hollyoaks'' as posh couldn't be more wrong, it is undeniably considered quite a glamourous soap along the same lines of the American soap operas because of it's young, good-looking cast and it's ability to go ahead with more 'playful', unrealistic plots and storylines generally derided by the others - but it still centers around a small village, and a nearby college which some of the characters attend. |
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:''Crossroads'', as you mention it, was set in a motel. Need I say more. [[User:Ooh, Fruity|<font color="Purple" face="Arial Narrow">'''Ooh, Fruity'''</font>]] [[User_Talk:Ooh, Fruity|<font color="Red" face="Arial Narrow">Ooh, Chatty </font>]] 19:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC) |
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It's all your opinions really and mine if I were to give it. You needs refs to back it all up, with producers agreeing with label, plenty of critics giving the label... As the latter view on Hollyoaks doing unrealistic plots, it's tosh just look at the acclaim for daring to do relevant plots to today's British society.. The Times and The Guardian, said it used to be like that, it all changed, among many other glossier rags, along with the producers saying this. It is glamorous, but still working life along side of student life.[[User:Raintheone|'''<span style="color:purple;font-family:Modern">RAIN the ONE</span>''']] [[User talk:Raintheone|(Talk)]] 19:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::I would say that it is true that Coronation Street, the Emmerdale village, and the EastEnders square are generally speaking [[working class]] communities. Most of the residents of those areas work in the businesses of the same area: driving cabs, pulling pints behind the bar, on a market stall, managing the laundrette. Not many barristers or surgeons living on Albert Square really. In these shows of course it is a rather fanciful, romanticised version of working class. But then all soaps are fanciful, so it is almost a moot point. I actually have the Bowles chapter that this article references: it does seem to suggest UK shows are more working class when compared to US soaps. Author states that in UK serials the characters "turn to crime to pay the rent rather than as part of a high powered corporate takeover strategy." I do not think it is a very contentious claim myself. [[User:Format|Format]] ([[User talk:Format|talk]]) 07:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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Certainly UK soap operas are MORE working class than foreign counterparts, in Dallas they were all oil millionaires and in Neighbours they're all well to do. In [[Coronation Street]] for instance they have had doctors and teachers move on to the street and many of the residents are sole traders of businesses on the street (the dynamic is very unlikely but who's getting picky). I know that in 40 years our perceptions of 'working class' has changed, I am most of my friends own cars and houses yet we all do traditional working-class jobs. I think they have moved away from this trend. Coronation Street is no longer a working class kitchen sink drama. [[Brookside]] was never about the working classes (although exhibited class-conflict and was very politicised with characters such as [[Bobby Grant]]). [[El Dorado]] deliberately tried to distance itself from the 'working class' scene and was very aspirational and [[The Archers]] is portrays a upper-class rural society I don't think even exists anymore. |
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In comparison to dramas (such as [[Cold Feet]] etc) which are generally upper-middle class, yes soaps are still a little more about normal people, however I would say the trend has moved away certainly in the soaps I have watched.[[User:Mtaylor848|Mtaylor848]] ([[User talk:Mtaylor848|talk]]) 09:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::I have just modified the article along the contours of this discussion. Indeed the Bowles chapter referenced by the article as the source of this claim, suggests that UK soaps tend to be more working class in comparison to US serials, not that they are set in working class communities ''per se''. [[User:Format|Format]] ([[User talk:Format|talk]]) 00:02, 1 August 2010 (UTC) |
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==Sources== |
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* Cipriaso, Celena. "[http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/16/soap.opera.commentary/index.html?iref=obinsite Commentary: End of TV soaps is more than end of an era]." ''[[CNN]]''. April 16, 2011. |
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[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 06:25, 19 April 2011 (UTC) |
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== 2010 Daytime Airhog Awards == |
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Rank Actor (Character) Show Total Episodes Appeared |
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1. Dominic Zamprogna (Dante Falconeri) General Hospital (ABC) 234 |
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2. Steve Burton (Jason Morgan) General Hospital (ABC) 224 |
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3. Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke Forrester) The Bold and the Beautiful (CBS) 210 |
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4. Maurice Benard (Sonny Corinthos) General Hospital (ABC) 205 |
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5. James Scott ([[E.J. Dimera]]) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 199 |
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6. Laura Wright (Carly Jacks) General Hospital (ABC) 196 |
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7. Rebecca Budig (Greenlee Smythe) All My Children (ABC) 195 |
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8. Julie Marie Berman (Lulu Spencer) General Hospital (ABC) 189 |
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9. Michael Easton (John McBain) One Life to Live (ABC) 182 |
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10. Cameron Mathison ([[Ryan Lavery]]) All My Children (ABC) 181 |
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11. Alison Sweeney ([[Sami Brady Hernandez]]) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 176 |
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12. Kristen Alderson (Starr Manning) One Life to Live (ABC) 174 |
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Ronn Moss (Ridge Forrester) The Bold and the Beautiful (CBS) 174 |
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14. Eric Braeden (Victor Newman) The Young and the Restless (CBS) 172 |
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15. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 171 |
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16. Molly Burnett ([[Melanie Layton Kiriakis]]) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 170 |
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17. Trevor St. John (Todd Manning) One Life to Live (ABC) 168 |
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18. Crystal Chappell (Dr. Carly Manning) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 166 |
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19. Jonathan Jackson (Lucky Spencer) General Hospital (ABC) 162 |
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== 2009 Daytime Airhog Awards == |
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1. Steve Burton ([[Jason Morgan]]) General Hospital (ABC) 208 |
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2. Arianne Zucker ([[Nicole Walker]]) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 207 |
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3. Thorsten Kaye ([[Zach Slater]]) All My Children (ABC) 206 |
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4. Maurice Benard ([[Sonny Corinthos]]) General Hospital (ABC) 200 |
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Cameron Mathison ([[Ryan Lavery]]) All My Children (ABC) 200 |
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6. Laura Wright ([[Carly Jacks]]) General Hospital (ABC) 194 |
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7. James Scott ([[E.J. DiMera]]) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 192 |
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8. Vincent Irizarry (Dr. [[David Hayward]]) All My Children (ABC) 191 |
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9. Katherine Kelly Lang ([[Brooke Logan]]) The Bold and the Beautiful (CBS) 190 |
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10. Alicia Minshew ([[Kendall Hart Slater]]) All My Children (ABC) 187 |
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11. Ronn Moss ([[Ridge Forrester]]) The Bold and the Beautiful (CBS) 184 |
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12. Alison Sweeney ([[Sami Brady]]) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 181 |
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13. Trevor St. John ([[Todd Manning]]) One Life to Live (ABC) 173 |
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14. Brandon Barash ([[Johnny Zacchara]]) General Hospital (ABC) 170 |
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Tyler Christopher ([[Nikolas Cassadine]]) General Hospital (ABC) 170 |
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Susan Lucci ([[Erica Kane]]) All My Children (ABC) 170 |
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17. Sarah Brown ([[Claudia Zacchara]]) General Hospital (ABC) 169 |
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18. Bradford Anderson ([[Damien Spinelli]]) General Hospital (ABC) 167 |
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Ingo Radamacher ([[Jasper Jacks]]/[[Jax Jacks) General Hospital (ABC) 167 |
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== 2008 Daytime Airhog Awards == |
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1. Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke Logan) The Bold and the Beautiful (CBS) 224 |
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2. Steve Burton (Jason Morgan) General Hospital (ABC) 222 |
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3. (Greenlee Smythe) Rebecca Budig and [[Sabine Singh]] All My Children (ABC) 220 |
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(Rebecca Budig, 211 / Sabine Singh, 9) |
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4. Maurice Benard (Sonny Corinthos) General Hospital (ABC) 203 |
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Alicia Minshew (Kendall Hart) All My Children (ABC) 203 |
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6. Julie Marie Berman (Lulu Spencer) General Hospital (ABC) 200 |
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7. Thorsten Kaye (Zach Slater) All My Children (ABC) 197 |
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8. Brandon Barash (Johnny Zacchara) General Hospital (ABC) 194 |
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9. Cameron Mathison (Ryan Lavery) All My Children (ABC) 193 |
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10. Bradford Anderson (Damian Spinelli) General Hospital (ABC) 190 |
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11. Melissa Claire Egan (Annie Lavery) All My Children (ABC) 189 |
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Laura Wright (Carly Corinthos Jacks) General Hospital (ABC) 189 |
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13. Sarah Joy Brown (Claudia Zacchara) General Hospital (ABC) 183 |
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14. Eric Braeden (Victor Newman) The Young and the Restless (CBS) 177 |
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15. Ronn Moss (Ridge Forrester) The Bold and the Beautiful (CBS) 176 |
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16. Joshua Morrow (Nicholas Newman) The Young and the Restless (CBS) 175 |
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17. Kirsten Storms ([[Maxie Jones]]) General Hospital (ABC) 173 |
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[[Megan Ward]] ([[Kate Howard]]) General Hospital (ABC) 173 |
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19. Trevor St. John ([[Todd Manning]]) One Life to Live (ABC) 171 |
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== 2007 Daytime Airhog Awards == |
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1. Alicia Minshew (Kendall Hart Slater) All My Children (ABC) 233 |
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2. Lindsay Hartley ([[Theresa Lopez-Fitzgerald]]) [[Passions]] (NBC) 228 |
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3. Steve Burton (Jason Morgan) General Hospital (ABC) 222 |
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4. Laura Wright (Carly Corinthos) General Hospital (ABC) 220 |
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5. Thorsten Kaye (Zach Slater) All My Children (ABC) 215 |
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6. Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke Logan) The Bold and the Beautiful (CBS) 213 |
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7. Eric Martsolf (Ethan Crane) Passions (NBC) 209 |
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Cameron Mathison (Ryan Lavery) All My Children (ABC) 209 |
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9. Maurice Benard (Sonny Corinthos) General Hospital (ABC) 206 |
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10. Julie Berman (Lulu Spencer) General Hospital (ABC) 205 |
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11. Michael Easton (John McBain) One Life to Live (ABC) 203 |
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Rebecca Herbst ([[Elizabeth Webber]]) General Hospital (ABC) 201 |
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13. Alison Sweeney (Sami Brady) Days of Our Lives (NBC) 192 |
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14. Emily Harper ([[Fancy]]) Passions (NBC) 190 |
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15. Ronn Moss (Ridge Forrester) The Bold and the Beautiful (CBS) 189 |
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Greg Vaughan (Lucky Spencer) General Hospital (ABC) 189 |
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17. Galen Gering ([[Luis Lopez-Fitzgerald]]) Passions (NBC) 187 |
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18. Kelly Monaco ([[Samantha McCall]]) General Hospital (ABC) 184 |
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== What, no radio? == |
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Someone mentioned it above, but there's a serious lack of Old Time Radio here. The genre was first developed on radio, after all. I'm only familiar with American radio, but I know that daytime soaps were very popular. The husband/wife team of Anne & Frank Hummert started producing soaps as early as 1933, and were a soap opera factory, producing many shows over the years in an assembly line-like process. How can you have a Soap Opera page without dealing with the originators? There must be someone out there who cares enough to do the writing. |
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[[User:MarkinBoston|MarkinBoston]] ([[User talk:MarkinBoston|talk]]) 02:34, 2 November 2011 (UTC) |
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Where is the history (radio shows, which was first tv show, which was first sponsored by soap?) Who are Clara Lu and Em from 1931 mentioned by BBC?[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17820571] [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] ([[User talk:Rmhermen|talk]]) 16:06, 27 April 2012 (UTC) |
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==How come first US network TV soap opera not mentioned?== |
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Surely [[Faraway Hill]] deserved a mention somewhere in the article? [[User:Suddenly There Is a Valley|Suddenly There Is a Valley]] ([[User talk:Suddenly There Is a Valley|talk]]) 10:22, 16 September 2012 (UTC) |
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==Origin of the genre== |
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Why does this section start with radio? ([[Lever Brothers]] as far as I know) first came up with the concept of a Soap Opera; long, long before [[Marconi]] sent voices through the either. There are contempery bill posters on display in [[Port Sunlight]], advertising the Uniliver's Soap Opera long, long before mains electricity... [http://www.c21media.net/a-show-of-brands-2/]'[http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Sunlight_Soap_Opera.html?id=Gus9twAACAAJ&redir_esc=y],[http://www.creators.com/lifestylefeatures/travel/travel-and-adventure/port-sunlight-a-town-where-soap-was-king.html]--[[User:Aspro|Aspro]] ([[User talk:Aspro|talk]]) 15:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC) |
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== Soap or Drama Series? == |
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Is there a reference for this statement: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera#Ireland “… RTÉ wanted a drama series for its Sunday night lineup rather than a soap opera, On Home Ground (2001–2002), The Clinic (2002–2009) and RAW (2010–2013) replaced the agri-soaps of the previous decades.“] <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Laura howard ie|Laura howard ie]] ([[User talk:Laura howard ie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Laura howard ie|contribs]]) 20:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Korean soap opera== |
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I'm surprised that there is no section on South Korean soap opera. There is a lot of it, and it is increasingly popular in some other countries, such as Taiwan.[[User:Billposer|Bill]] ([[User talk:Billposer|talk]]) 02:38, 4 September 2015 (UTC) |
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[edit]How is this a B-class article? Many sections contain no references at all. We have assertions for various series' popularity without citing any ratings. We mention regional differences in the genre and its formats, without citing any reliable sources. This seems to be original research, and likely reflects the POV of Wikipedia's editors. Dimadick (talk) 05:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Longest opera is not Guiding Light anymore
[edit]Assuming The Archers is still going, in 2022 they surpassed Guiding Light in runtime length. (72 years) Curuwen (talk) 23:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Not all dictionaries say that for something to be properly called a "soap opera", it has to be long-running, according to how the term is commonly understood.
[edit]I happen to have the second edition of the Oxford English dictionary, which is considered an English-language authority by some. It doesn't say that for something to be correctly labelled as a "soap opera", it has be long-running. I do know that many English-language dictionaries are descriptivist, but I think that this Wikipedia article should at least mention this nuance, as per its Neutral Point of View policy.
In all the billingual English-Portuguese dictionaries in which I looked that up, the translation given for the term "soap opera" is "telenovela" or simply "novela". That is true even for some billingual dictionaries which I consider high-quality such as the Cambridge English-Portuguese Dictionary. Semantism2 (talk) 22:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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