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How is this a B-class article? Many sections contain no references at all. We have assertions for various series' popularity without citing any ratings. We mention regional differences in the genre and its formats, without citing any reliable sources. This seems to be original research, and likely reflects the POV of Wikipedia's editors. Dimadick (talk) 05:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Longest opera is not Guiding Light anymore

Assuming The Archers is still going, in 2022 they surpassed Guiding Light in runtime length. (72 years) Curuwen (talk) 23:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not all dictionaries say that for something to be properly called a "soap opera", it has to be long-running, according to how the term is commonly understood.

I happen to have the second edition of the Oxford English dictionary, which is considered an English-language authority by some. It doesn't say that for something to be correctly labelled as a "soap opera", it has be long-running. I do know that many English-language dictionaries are descriptivist, but I think that this Wikipedia article should at least mention this nuance, as per its Neutral Point of View policy.

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In all the billingual English-Portuguese dictionaries in which I looked that up, the translation given for the term "soap opera" is "telenovela" or simply "novela". That is true even for some billingual dictionaries which I consider high-quality such as the Cambridge English-Portuguese Dictionary. Semantism2 (talk) 22:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Unsourced ==
-==TV Series aka Soap Operas==
-The following TV series could be looked upon as "Soaps" depending on your point of view:
-**Every sequel series of [[Star Trek]] {orginal series} {including MOVIES}
-**[[The Sopranos]]-everyone's favortie gangster family.
-**Any other canidates?
+How is this a B-class article? Many sections contain no references at all. We have assertions for various series' popularity without citing any ratings. We mention regional differences in the genre and its formats, without citing any reliable sources. This seems to be original research, and likely reflects the POV of Wikipedia's editors. [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 05:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
-I AGREE ON TV SERIES AS SOAPS!!!
+== Longest opera is not Guiding Light anymore ==
-*Another canidates would be the mini-series [[Centennial (novel)]] and any other mimi-series based on novels-or based on movies-such as [[MASH]].
-"Link to [[Centennial (TV miniseries)]]-{When TNT showed this series for 3 months straight for hours on end-it killed  any chance of me being a Soap Opera fan!!}
+Assuming ''The Archers'' is still going, in 2022 they surpassed ''Guiding Light'' in runtime length. (72 years) [[User:Curuwen|Curuwen]] ([[User talk:Curuwen|talk]]) 23:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
-Surely Downton Abbey should be included here as well? It seems to meet much of the criteria for a soap opera. Thoughts?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Divemast|Divemast]] ([[User talk:Divemast|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Divemast|contribs]]) 23:41, 22 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== Not all dictionaries say that for something to be properly called a "soap opera", it has to be long-running, according to how the term is commonly understood. ==
-==Korean soap opera==
-I'm surprised that there is no section on South Korean soap opera. There is a lot of it, and it is increasingly popular in some other countries, such as Taiwan.[[User:Billposer|Bill]] ([[User talk:Billposer|talk]]) 02:38, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
+I happen to have the second edition of the '''<u>Oxford English dictionary</u>, which is considered an English-language authority by some.''' It doesn't say that for something to be correctly labelled as a "soap opera", it has be long-running.
-== External links modified ==
+I do know that many English-language dictionaries are descriptivist, but I think that this Wikipedia article should at least mention this nuance, as per its Neutral Point of View policy.
+[https://www.google.com/search?q=soap+opera+def| Google Dictionary]
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+[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soap%20opera| Meriam Wesbster]
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+In all the billingual English-Portuguese dictionaries in which I looked that up, the translation given for the term "soap opera" is ''"telenovela"'' or simply ''"novela"''. That is true even for some billingual dictionaries which I consider high-quality such as the Cambridge English-Portuguese Dictionary. [[User:Semantism2|Semantism2]] ([[User talk:Semantism2|talk]]) 22:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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