Talk:T20 Blast

This page needs a lot of extra information on the Twenty20 Cup putting on this website.

Naming of English cricket competitions

A discussion is taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket about how English domestic cricket competitions are named - specifically whether or not sponsor's names should be used in the titles of competitions and how they might be grouped together. A formal merge proposal will follow, but anyone interested might like to start with the discussion there. Thanks. Blue Square Thing (talk) 17:37, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Following discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket, I'm proposing a merger of Vitality Blast (the new sponsor of what was previously the NatWest T20 Blast) and Friends Life t20 to Twenty20 Cup. The competitions use sponsor's names in their titles which is not generally the way that Wikipedia does things. There is some consensus at the WikiProject talk page linked to above, but this is now a formal merger proposal and any additional comments might be best left here. Blue Square Thing (talk) 17:14, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

No objections then? Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:59, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

• Merge per discussion Spike 'em (talk) 09:01, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
• Merge per discussion Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:17, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

I am in the process of merging - some of which will be a little selective of course. I'll note the decisions I made during the process here once done. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:11, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

So, a summary:

• history been brought in mainly from the T20 Blast page as there was more there
• I've removed the super-wide table which shows what each team did in each season - essentially it was way too wide for my monitor (which is wide) and completely screws the page up on a tablet, for example
• I've completed but simplified the finals table - which has removed a little of the data. I've no objection to that being added back in, I just haven't had the time to do it right now
• removed any tables of data (e.g. centuries etc...). I don't know if these belong here or not but none had any context
• sorted out some of the refs - but added a ref improve tag
• I think I've resolved all the double redirects
• I'll deal with any templates just now

Some things that seem unresolved:

• it could use more detail on the history
• can someone look at the mascot derby thing. There seems to be a redirect from Mascot derby to here - but the term seems much more general than just applying to this tournament - to me anyway
• I've almost certainly missed something...

Thanks. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:37, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 16 September 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved. Number 57 14:24, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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Twenty20 Cup → T20 Blast – Has been known as t20 Blast since 2014, and so this is now the WP:COMMONNAME. Wikipedia requires first letter to be capital for technical reasons, so page name should be T20 Blast. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:29, 16 September 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. SITH (talk) 17:56, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose at present - see the discussion above in part as well as the contemporaneous one at the cricket wiki project (iirc). With the ECB in charge it would be presumptuous to assume that it will remain as the Blast. It may do, but it seems safer on the whole to keep it as the generic name. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:25, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose as per Blue Square Thing's reasons. Blast is just really an advertising word used for the tournament. They could well change it next year, or the year after etc. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:19, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per WP:NAMECHANGES: "Sometimes the subject of an article will undergo a change of name. When this occurs, we give extra weight to reliable sources written after the name change. If the reliable sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name, Wikipedia should follow suit and change relevant titles to match. If, on the other hand, reliable sources written after the name change is announced continue to use the established name, Wikipedia should continue to do so as well, as described above in "Use commonly recognizable names"." Harrias ^talk 14:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support, per all relevant naming guidelines. Seems clearly to be the common name, and has been for some time. Per those guidelines, we should not hold off on renaming due to crystal-balling some future name change. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 17:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support I'm umming and ahing about this one, but I think COMMONNAME / NAMECHANGES hold the most sway here. The name has been used since 2014, so I think it is a stretch to not rename because of CRYSTALBALL reasons. As an aside, T20 Blast already redirects here, so people can use that in articles without any problems. Spike 'em (talk) 08:37, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support per Harrias. T20 Blast is the common name. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 12:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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