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Skyy Moore currently wears this number. Brandon Flowers opted to retire with the Chiefs after several seasons with another team. Perhaps that is the source of the confusion. [[Special:Contributions/2603:7080:1C39:6491:38EE:DA93:D827:19B|2603:7080:1C39:6491:38EE:DA93:D827:19B]] ([[User talk:2603:7080:1C39:6491:38EE:DA93:D827:19B|talk]]) 03:37, 6 February 2023 (UTC) |
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The nickname 'The Big Red Machine' needs to be added for the 2019-current dynasty. [[Special:Contributions/47.17.243.81|47.17.243.81]] ([[User talk:47.17.243.81|talk]]) 20:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC) |
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: {{not done}} You'll need a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] indicating that's a well-known nickname for the Chiefs. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 20:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== GA status == |
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:Seconding this change, via https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/#all_3919648791 Number 24 is not included in the retired numbers chart via pro-football-reference. Additionally, the wrong Brandon Flowers is linked on the live page. [[User:Rmcmullin|Rmcmullin]] ([[User talk:Rmcmullin|talk]]) 17:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC) |
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This is an older GA promotion listed at [[WP:SWEEPS2023|the ongoing GA sweeps]]. Most of the post-2012 content is uncited, which is unfortunate as this time span is one of the most important in Chiefs history. Additionally, other portions of the article are uncited, such as the entire retired numbers table and the hall of famers section. The entire article needs a fine-toothed comb for various less obvious issues as well, such as giving ticket prices as of 2009, {{Xt|and has long held a reputation for being one of the toughest and loudest outdoor stadiums for opposing players to play in}} is cited entirely to sources from before 2010 and while this is still going to be true I expect, this needs newer sources to continue to support this content. The section about the rivalry with the Rams has accreted non-obvious uncited text - the three sources for this section are two sources focusing on the 2018 game and a source from before the Rams left St. Louis. {{Xt|hailed by many as one of the greatest games in league history}} from that section particularly needs better sourcing, as both of the sources about that game in this paragraph are from the teams involved's official websites, so independent sourcing proclaiming this is necessary. There are going to be similar issues uncovered in a close look-over the whole article - if work does not occur, a [[WP:GAR|good article reassessment]] will be necessary. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> ''[[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]''</sub> 19:32, 13 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2023 == |
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In right-hand column under “Super Bowl Championships (3)”, change “2022 (LVII)” to “2023 (LVII)”. [[User:Jcatlin1|Jcatlin1]] ([[User talk:Jcatlin1|talk]]) 06:16, 13 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:Not done. The super Bowl in 2023 was for the 2022 season, it just lasted an extra month and a bit. --[[User:Mvqr|<span style="color: #8f8;background:#85b;border:1px solid #999">Mvqr</span>]] ([[User talk:Mvqr#top|talk]]) 12:22, 13 February 2023 (UTC) |
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== Helmet logo == |
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This is probably really dumb and nitpicky, but the logo on the helmet on the vector image used for the uniforms is wrong. |
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Since Branson, Mo is the vacation destination of the team, what are the chances of getting a What-A-Burger here so everyone could see the big orange/white "W" on the north side of town when tourists & fans come into our area? [[Special:Contributions/173.218.36.91|173.218.36.91]] ([[User talk:173.218.36.91|talk]]) 03:03, 12 September 2023 (UTC) |
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The Chiefs have 2 logos, the one where the bottom of the "C" points up, towards the rest of the "C" that they use as their primary logo, and the one where the bottom of the "C" points to the right, the same way as the top, that they only use on the helmets. |
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== Dynasty == |
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[https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/mbtef36mxmdxosrpvl4hf3e8i/Kansas_City_Chiefs/1974/Helmet Sportslogos.met has an example of this], or you can look at any photo you want of a player wearing the helmet to see an example of this minute difference. |
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The current uniform example vector image has the primary logo, instead of the helmet logo on the helmet. |
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We should probably revise this, as to give people an accurate representation of what the uniforms look like. [[User:Rmcmullin|Rmcmullin]] ([[User talk:Rmcmullin|talk]]) 15:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Introduction == |
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{{Ping|Words in the Wind}} The Chiefs have won 4 NFL championships according to the actual [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_National_Football_League_championship#NFL_championships_by_franchise article] which links to the team's Infobox. AFL titles are not recognized as NFL championships. Please, do not revert the changes until we get a general consensus from other users. [[User:Kj1595|Kj1595]] ([[User talk:Kj1595|talk]]) 21:20, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
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This first sentence is not written very well - |
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{{Ping|Kj1595}} Please see [[Template:Infobox NFL team]] for more information on listing league championships (which does not just refer to the National Football League but also the [[American Football League]]). I honestly do not have any skin in this game but based on previous consensus this is how the information has been included and listed. I am very sorry and I am not trying to be rude, but you do not get the right to unilaterally revert information that has long had consensus. Please see [[Buffalo Bills]], [[Houston Oilers]], and [[San Diego Chargers]] for more information. Again if you believe the infobox information is incorrect, I would suggest getting consensus at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League]] where you might generate a larger conversation on this. |
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The Kansas City Chiefs are an American footballteam in history based in Kansas City, Missouri. |
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I am sorry, I am not trying to start fights or wars with you but you seem pretty emotionally engaged on this issue. That is not my intent here. I understand secondly you may be confusing NFL and AFL history, but I think that is something that could get sorted while trying to get consensus on the issue at the NFL page. Please let me know if you have any questions, and do not revert the page any further as yes, this will get reported for edit warring where this can get sorted out later. |
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I recommend - |
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Once again, I am sorry you seem upset on this issue. If you are confused or upset about this, please explain why and we can go from there. '''[[User:Words in the Wind|<span style="color: #FF0000;">Words in the Wind</span>]]'''<span style="color: #00FF00;">([[User talk:Words in the Wind|talk]])</span> 21:47, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
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The Kansas City Chiefs are a historic American football team based in Kansas City, Missouri. [[User:Jemmson74|Jemmson74]] ([[User talk:Jemmson74|talk]]) 06:20, 8 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:I took out “in history” because it was part of some vandalism that was added a couple of weeks ago and never fully corrected. All football teams are historic (in the sense that they are part of football history) so we can leave that out. [[User:Larry Hockett|Larry Hockett]] ([[User talk:Larry Hockett|Talk]]) 07:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::Talk page [[ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League]], this has nothing to do with me. '''[[User:Words in the Wind|<span style="color: #FF0000;">Words in the Wind</span>]]'''<span style="color: #00FF00;">([[User talk:Words in the Wind|talk]])</span> 21:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:Highlighting what makes them historic is more objective than just calling them ''historic''. —[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 09:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::This has everything to do with you as it is you who is erroneously updating the article's infobox. And you keep posting the same wikiproject link for some strange reason. The actual Wiki article that links to the infobox lists all the NFL champions. The Bills, Oilers and SD Chargers articles are all wrong. Look at the [[New York Jets]] and [[Las Vegas Raiders]] articles as model examples. The official Pro Football Hall of Fame [https://www.profootballhof.com/nfl-champions/ website] shows the correct list as well. Where did you come up with number 5? Even if somehow we were to include the AFL titles, shouldn't the Chiefs have 7 championships? This is the last warning. If you undo the infobox changes one more time, without getting a consensus resolution in the talk page of this article, I will report you to the Admin Noticeboard. The Pro Football Hall of Fame website is the official source of the NFL and I will include it as a source. Unless you can provide an alternative official source which states that the Chiefs have 5 championships, do not make any changes to the infobox. [[User:Kj1595|Kj1595]] ([[User talk:Kj1595|talk]]) 01:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:In my opinion, it does not need to expressed that the team is historic if the history section covers their past and present. [[User:Red Director|Red Director]] ([[User talk:Red Director|talk]]) 14:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC) |
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The nickname 'The Big Red Machine' needs to be added for the 2019-current dynasty. 47.17.243.81 (talk) 20:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not done You'll need a reliable source indicating that's a well-known nickname for the Chiefs. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
GA status
[edit]This is an older GA promotion listed at the ongoing GA sweeps. Most of the post-2012 content is uncited, which is unfortunate as this time span is one of the most important in Chiefs history. Additionally, other portions of the article are uncited, such as the entire retired numbers table and the hall of famers section. The entire article needs a fine-toothed comb for various less obvious issues as well, such as giving ticket prices as of 2009, and has long held a reputation for being one of the toughest and loudest outdoor stadiums for opposing players to play in is cited entirely to sources from before 2010 and while this is still going to be true I expect, this needs newer sources to continue to support this content. The section about the rivalry with the Rams has accreted non-obvious uncited text - the three sources for this section are two sources focusing on the 2018 game and a source from before the Rams left St. Louis. hailed by many as one of the greatest games in league history from that section particularly needs better sourcing, as both of the sources about that game in this paragraph are from the teams involved's official websites, so independent sourcing proclaiming this is necessary. There are going to be similar issues uncovered in a close look-over the whole article - if work does not occur, a good article reassessment will be necessary. Hog Farm Talk 19:32, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Helmet logo
[edit]This is probably really dumb and nitpicky, but the logo on the helmet on the vector image used for the uniforms is wrong.
The Chiefs have 2 logos, the one where the bottom of the "C" points up, towards the rest of the "C" that they use as their primary logo, and the one where the bottom of the "C" points to the right, the same way as the top, that they only use on the helmets. Sportslogos.met has an example of this, or you can look at any photo you want of a player wearing the helmet to see an example of this minute difference. The current uniform example vector image has the primary logo, instead of the helmet logo on the helmet.
We should probably revise this, as to give people an accurate representation of what the uniforms look like. Rmcmullin (talk) 15:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Introduction
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The Kansas City Chiefs are an American footballteam in history based in Kansas City, Missouri.
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The Kansas City Chiefs are a historic American football team based in Kansas City, Missouri. Jemmson74 (talk) 06:20, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I took out “in history” because it was part of some vandalism that was added a couple of weeks ago and never fully corrected. All football teams are historic (in the sense that they are part of football history) so we can leave that out. Larry Hockett (Talk) 07:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Highlighting what makes them historic is more objective than just calling them historic. —Bagumba (talk) 09:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- In my opinion, it does not need to expressed that the team is historic if the history section covers their past and present. Red Director (talk) 14:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
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