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== Use of the word demon == |
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⚫ | I don't know who is always typing in the word "demon" in the article that was probably the third time I had to scratch that nonsense. The term "yōkai" is '''NOT''' equal to "demon". The term describes a far broader category of supernatural creatures that in fact do not have to have supernatural origin, but just became supernatural during their existence. The word may involve demons but to translate "yōkai" with "demon", is a '''very''' rough translation and in many cases far more than just incorrect. And if the word is used in the English translation of the manga or anime so keep in mind, that its incorrect. So please everybody who is working on this site: '''stop this, it really doesn't help and it's not adequate for wikipedia or any other kind of dictionary'''.--[[User:Inugami-bargho|Inugami-bargho]] ([[User talk:Inugami-bargho|talk]]) 14:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC) |
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The official Inuyasha character guide, as approved by Rumiko Takahashi, states that Inuyasha looks and acts 15. Referencing his age from a website is not official. Please stop changing it because that age is not correct.--[[User:Slotedpig|Slotedpig]] 15:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC) |
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⚫ | :InuYasha and other yokai are called "demons" in the official translations of these works. And "yokai" is not an English word, that is, most English speakers would have no idea what it means. Even if "demon" does not quite catch the exact meaning intended, it is still better than a meaningless string of five letters. This is the policy which has been accepted by almost all editors of articles about InuYasha. [[User:JRSpriggs|JRSpriggs]] ([[User talk:JRSpriggs|talk]]) 20:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC) P.S. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; is it an encyclopedia. |
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:The funny thing is that the website references the same book and also says that 15 is the right age. I have no clue why some people keep changing the ages of InuYasha characters on their pages. Maybe we should start putting vandalism warnings on talk pages of the culprits. EDIT: OK, after verification, that particular website states 17-18. Other character wiki articles (I think [[Naraku]], for example) cite another [http://www.furinkan.com/iycompanion/misc/index.html webpage] that correctly references the right book.--[[User:Boffob|Boffob]] 16:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC) |
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⚫ | :::I don't really mind if demon is used instead of yokai for most of the text, but it would be very appropriate to mention yokai with a link at least once, say in the intro, because of the cultural distinction between the Japanese yokai and the modern western definition of demon.--[[User:Boffob|Boffob]] ([[User talk:Boffob|talk]]) 04:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:I don't think anything will deter people from changing it. The fact the character book is out in English hasn't stopped people from insisting they know better than the official guide. At least its a simple change.--[[User:Slotedpig|Slotedpig]] 17:04, 3 August 2007 (UTC) |
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⚫ | InuYasha is older than Kagome because if he loved Kikyo and Kikyo seem's to be bigger than Kagome than well shouldn't Inuyasha be kikyo's age?!? or older Plus the first article It say's InuYasha is 15 so then didn't it say in the series she was 15! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Micsam77|Micsam77]] ([[User talk:Micsam77|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Micsam77|contribs]]) 21:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I actually edited the age part in the infobox; I took into consideration the request not to change it (in the hidden text), so I didn't, but merely added on to it. InuYasha is, in fact 200 years old. It was referenced in an episode (or movie) when they mention that InuYasha was born on the precise day that his father died due to wounds resulting from the [[Ryukotsusei]] battle (you can also see this happening in the [[Swords of an Honorable Ruler|third movie]]). It was mentioned in said episode that this was 200 years ago. I'm not sure where I got this from, but I will cite it very promptly. |
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---Kikyou was older than InuYasha [in apperance at least] to begin with anyway. She was 18, he was 15. (My-Only-Love) |
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:Also, Shouldn't actual age in years be put above what age InuYasha ''looks like'', even if Rumiko Takahashi approved it? [[User:Mizu onna sango15|Mizu onna sango15]] 21:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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You are both wrong, InuYasha's age, is not known, but we do know he's over 50 years old at least, that's how long he ws planted in that tree by the arrow, so we know he's at least 50 years old, and since he's half demon, there no way to tell what his age is, but his appearence I believe is the age of a 16 year old, not a 15, but 16 year old, and Kagome was 15 when she first came over but during the series, she celebrates her 16th birthday so we know she's got a least a year older during the anime series, for the Manga, I can't speak for, but to be honest, i put her at 17 during the Mountain series with the Band of 7. And I put Inuyasha still at 16 years old in appearence.[[User:2-Bar Quack|The Cleveland Browns are awesome!]] ([[User talk:2-Bar Quack|talk]]) 20:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> |
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---Nope, definately 15 (mind and body), the 50 year don't count as he was frozen in the aging process whilst sleeping, pinned to the tree. That came from the InuYasha character profile book. And as for their ages; they don't even age until the 3 year seperation. Almost the entire story takes place under a year. Here is the series timeline, adding up all the events: http://freelance-manga.com/forum/index.php?topic=43.0 .... the major giveaway that Kagome did not reach her 16th birthday in the series is the fact at the beginning she mentions that her entrance exams are coming up soon (exams to get into highschool). She stays in the last year of junior high for the series and she ends up taking exams plus before the final battle with Naraku, she graduates from junior high. This of course is all referencing from the manga as the anime does stray from canon from time to time. And as for Kagome's 16th in the anime, I don't ever recall seeing an episode that mentions that, can you reference what one? (My-Only-Love)<br /> <br /> |
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::Thing is, the movies are part of a different continuity than the the anime and manga. Meaning they are not canon. [[User:Showers|Showers]] 00:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Hmmm... I see. Still, the storyline doesn't differ drastically (referring to the Movies and chapters/episodes), and even if it isn't canon, couldn't the story and plot in the movie franchise go for the series as well? What difference does it make, does it necessarily have to be cannonical? [[User:Mizu onna sango15|Mizu onna sango15]] 02:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC) |
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---In the official character guide, Rumiko Takashashi states that Inuyasha is technically 200 but due to his frozen state, when he was pinned to the tree for fifty years, he didn't age and therefore appears to be 150 years old, meaning that he ages one year for every ten years. So while he should look like he is already twenty, he actually appears 15.<br /> <br /> |
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::::It's because Rumiko Takahashi could disregard any story elements from the movies and filler episodes of the anime and contradict such elements in the manga. Heck, even the movies don't follow the anime. In the third movie, for example, Sesshomaru's arm that had been sliced through (at least in the anime) and cut off in his "true" dog form somehow reverts back into an intact human form arm and stays in between worlds until picked up by the movie villain. At the end of the movie, it sinks into hell while Sesshomaru says he no longer needs it. In the manga, Sesshomaru eventually got his arm back. In any case, all non-canon info from the movies and anime that are not in the manga should either not be put in the infobox or clearly labeled as anime or movies only.--[[User:Boffob|Boffob]] ([[User talk:Boffob|talk]]) 05:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Um, the anime says he was stuck to the Sacred Tree since Kikyo died, making him MUCH older then 15. If he looks and acts 15, it doesn't mean he is 15.[[Special:Contributions/207.14.79.87|207.14.79.87]] ([[User talk:207.14.79.87|talk]]) 00:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::That's why it says ''"appears 15"'' in the infobox. It's clear that InuYasha is much older, but no canon material gives his actual age. The Official Character Guide states that 15 is InuYasha's apparent age (in looks, mentality and behaviour essentially) but does not state his age in terms of years from birth. So by Wiki's verifiability policy, the apparent age is the only age we can put in the infobox.--[[User:Boffob|Boffob]] ([[User talk:Boffob|talk]]) 01:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC) |
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== Tetsusaiga merged == |
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I've finally merged the article into this one; I'll admit it's a little messy, but so much information was in-universe. Personally, merging this page might even be considerable. I linked all the redirects to this page, so that should be fine. [[User:WhiteArcticWolf|WhiteArcticWolf]] ([[User talk:WhiteArcticWolf|talk]]) 00:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC) |
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You people are really making me mad, deleting all the images. What is up with that? Can someone explain to me why you remove the images. And there had better be another reason other than the copyright crap.[[User:Master auror|Master auror]] 12:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Masterauror |
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:So why does the Hiraikotsu have it's own article and isn't merged with Sango? Same with the other weapons?[[User:Moocowsrule|Moocowsrule]] ([[User talk:Moocowsrule|talk]]) 19:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule |
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:It's most likely due to [[WP:FU]] policy. Under the policy section 3a/3b. Although I didn't delete any images so Im not sure.[[User:Showers|Showers]] 12:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC) |
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::Does that "FU" stand for "Fair use" or "Fuck you" (joking)? [[User:JRSpriggs|JRSpriggs]] 03:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Maybe both ;) [[User:Showers|Showers]] 02:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::: I believe that it constitutes fair use if we use an image of Inuyasha to demonstrate what he looks like and for "critical commentary". So why its being deleted I don't know. [[User:Tourskin|Tourskin]] 19:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC) |
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I made a few edits to this page, which I think made it a bit better. I changed the Tessaiga part, from "Often Incorrectly written as Tetsusaiga" or something like that to "Written as Tetsusaiga in the English dub" because it isn't necessarily incorrect. And also changed Youki, Youketsu and Youkai to Yōki, Yōketsu and Yōkai.[[User:Moocowsrule|Moocowsrule]] ([[User talk:Moocowsrule|talk]]) 00:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule |
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== Kinka and Ginka == |
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* And it is Tetsusaiga in the English manga too. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC) |
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I removed Kinka and Ginka from the relationships section. Other than similarities in the Sesshomaru/Inuyasha and Kinka/Ginka relationship dynamics, Inuyasha didn't have a relationship with them. [[User:Showers|Showers]] 20:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Edited a bunch of the weapon section.[[User:Moocowsrule|Moocowsrule]] ([[User talk:Moocowsrule|talk]]) 19:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule |
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At the end of the manga Kagome returns to the Sengoku Era and marries Inuyasha, so why was this taken out? She's his wife, so she should be (and was, but someone removed it) included in the list of relatives. [[Special:Contributions/75.157.122.154|75.157.122.154]] ([[User talk:75.157.122.154|talk]]) 06:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Kenatsu (Sword Pressure) == |
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I have the Kanji for Kenatsu, traditional and simplified, but I'm not sure which to use... 剣圧 Simplified and 劍壓 Traditional. [[User:Moocowsrule|Moocowsrule]] ([[User talk:Moocowsrule|talk]]) 19:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule |
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The current infobox picture looks rather dull. Can we find one that shows more of his body, such as [http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9095/snapshot20071204215253yj7.jpg this picture] from Episode 10, or something like [http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6528/snapshot20071204214106zh6.jpg this picture] from the Grip! OP? -- [[User:RattleMan|RattleMan]] ([[User talk:RattleMan|talk]]) 04:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:Ill admit its a little choppy looking but it gets the job done. If you're going to upload a new pic just make sure you give a proper fair use rationale. You would have to resize the first pic as well to give a proper resolution. (should be at around 0.1 megapixels or less) [[User:Showers|Showers]] ([[User talk:Showers|talk]]) 05:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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== Edits on Soul Scattering Iron Claw/Soul Shattering Claw. == |
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Which was arbitrarily referred to by only its english dub name by the way. I added the fact that Iron Reaver is only the english dub name, and the fact that the Japanese name is Sankontessou. Any objections? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Battoubro|Battoubro]] ([[User talk:Battoubro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Battoubro|contribs]]) 05:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Use of the word demon == |
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:I removed it; it's POV (that it's a poor translation). If you want, just put {{nihongo|''Iron Reaver Soul Stealer''|*kanji here*|Sankontessou|Soul Shattering Claw}}. Most of InuYasha's attacks are not a direct translation of the Japanese, making it easiest to use that method instead of explaining every one. [[User:WhiteArcticWolf|WhiteArcticWolf]] ([[User talk:WhiteArcticWolf|talk]]) 12:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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⚫ | I don't know who is always typing in the word "demon" in the article that was probably the third time I had to scratch that nonsense. The term "yōkai" is '''NOT''' equal to "demon". The term describes a far broader category of supernatural creatures that in fact do not have to have supernatural origin, but just became supernatural during their existence. The word may involve demons but to translate "yōkai" with "demon", is a '''very''' rough translation and in many cases far more than just incorrect. And if the word is used in the English translation of the manga or anime so keep in mind, that its incorrect. So please everybody who is working on this site: '''stop this, it really doesn't help and it's not adequate for wikipedia or any other kind of dictionary'''.--[[User:Inugami-bargho|Inugami-bargho]] ([[User talk:Inugami-bargho|talk]]) 14:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC) |
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⚫ | :InuYasha and other yokai are called "demons" in the official translations of these works. And "yokai" is not an English word, that is, most English speakers would have no idea what it means. Even if "demon" does not quite catch the exact meaning intended, it is still better than a meaningless string of five letters. This is the policy which has been accepted by almost all editors of articles about InuYasha. [[User:JRSpriggs|JRSpriggs]] ([[User talk:JRSpriggs|talk]]) 20:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC) P.S. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; is it an encyclopedia. |
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⚫ | :::I don't really mind if demon is used instead of yokai for most of the text, but it would be very appropriate to mention yokai with a link at least once, say in the intro, because of the cultural distinction between the Japanese yokai and the modern western definition of demon.--[[User:Boffob|Boffob]] ([[User talk:Boffob|talk]]) 04:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC) |
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Use of the word demon
I don't know who is always typing in the word "demon" in the article that was probably the third time I had to scratch that nonsense. The term "yōkai" is NOT equal to "demon". The term describes a far broader category of supernatural creatures that in fact do not have to have supernatural origin, but just became supernatural during their existence. The word may involve demons but to translate "yōkai" with "demon", is a very rough translation and in many cases far more than just incorrect. And if the word is used in the English translation of the manga or anime so keep in mind, that its incorrect. So please everybody who is working on this site: stop this, it really doesn't help and it's not adequate for wikipedia or any other kind of dictionary.--Inugami-bargho (talk) 14:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- InuYasha and other yokai are called "demons" in the official translations of these works. And "yokai" is not an English word, that is, most English speakers would have no idea what it means. Even if "demon" does not quite catch the exact meaning intended, it is still better than a meaningless string of five letters. This is the policy which has been accepted by almost all editors of articles about InuYasha. JRSpriggs (talk) 20:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC) P.S. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; is it an encyclopedia.
- Then I'd rather add a link to Yōkai rather than fix it to demon... I'm from a country right next to Japan and I know how different they are. BrianGo28 (talk) 04:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't really mind if demon is used instead of yokai for most of the text, but it would be very appropriate to mention yokai with a link at least once, say in the intro, because of the cultural distinction between the Japanese yokai and the modern western definition of demon.--Boffob (talk) 04:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Then I'd rather add a link to Yōkai rather than fix it to demon... I'm from a country right next to Japan and I know how different they are. BrianGo28 (talk) 04:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
He is older than her!
InuYasha is older than Kagome because if he loved Kikyo and Kikyo seem's to be bigger than Kagome than well shouldn't Inuyasha be kikyo's age?!? or older Plus the first article It say's InuYasha is 15 so then didn't it say in the series she was 15! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Micsam77 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
---Kikyou was older than InuYasha [in apperance at least] to begin with anyway. She was 18, he was 15. (My-Only-Love)
You are both wrong, InuYasha's age, is not known, but we do know he's over 50 years old at least, that's how long he ws planted in that tree by the arrow, so we know he's at least 50 years old, and since he's half demon, there no way to tell what his age is, but his appearence I believe is the age of a 16 year old, not a 15, but 16 year old, and Kagome was 15 when she first came over but during the series, she celebrates her 16th birthday so we know she's got a least a year older during the anime series, for the Manga, I can't speak for, but to be honest, i put her at 17 during the Mountain series with the Band of 7. And I put Inuyasha still at 16 years old in appearence.The Cleveland Browns are awesome! (talk) 20:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
---Nope, definately 15 (mind and body), the 50 year don't count as he was frozen in the aging process whilst sleeping, pinned to the tree. That came from the InuYasha character profile book. And as for their ages; they don't even age until the 3 year seperation. Almost the entire story takes place under a year. Here is the series timeline, adding up all the events: http://freelance-manga.com/forum/index.php?topic=43.0 .... the major giveaway that Kagome did not reach her 16th birthday in the series is the fact at the beginning she mentions that her entrance exams are coming up soon (exams to get into highschool). She stays in the last year of junior high for the series and she ends up taking exams plus before the final battle with Naraku, she graduates from junior high. This of course is all referencing from the manga as the anime does stray from canon from time to time. And as for Kagome's 16th in the anime, I don't ever recall seeing an episode that mentions that, can you reference what one? (My-Only-Love)
---In the official character guide, Rumiko Takashashi states that Inuyasha is technically 200 but due to his frozen state, when he was pinned to the tree for fifty years, he didn't age and therefore appears to be 150 years old, meaning that he ages one year for every ten years. So while he should look like he is already twenty, he actually appears 15.
Tetsusaiga merged
I've finally merged the article into this one; I'll admit it's a little messy, but so much information was in-universe. Personally, merging this page might even be considerable. I linked all the redirects to this page, so that should be fine. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 00:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- So why does the Hiraikotsu have it's own article and isn't merged with Sango? Same with the other weapons?Moocowsrule (talk) 19:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule
Edits
I made a few edits to this page, which I think made it a bit better. I changed the Tessaiga part, from "Often Incorrectly written as Tetsusaiga" or something like that to "Written as Tetsusaiga in the English dub" because it isn't necessarily incorrect. And also changed Youki, Youketsu and Youkai to Yōki, Yōketsu and Yōkai.Moocowsrule (talk) 00:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule
- And it is Tetsusaiga in the English manga too. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Edited a bunch of the weapon section.Moocowsrule (talk) 19:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule
At the end of the manga Kagome returns to the Sengoku Era and marries Inuyasha, so why was this taken out? She's his wife, so she should be (and was, but someone removed it) included in the list of relatives. 75.157.122.154 (talk) 06:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Kenatsu (Sword Pressure)
I have the Kanji for Kenatsu, traditional and simplified, but I'm not sure which to use... 剣圧 Simplified and 劍壓 Traditional. Moocowsrule (talk) 19:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule
Edits on Soul Scattering Iron Claw/Soul Shattering Claw.
Which was arbitrarily referred to by only its english dub name by the way. I added the fact that Iron Reaver is only the english dub name, and the fact that the Japanese name is Sankontessou. Any objections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Battoubro (talk • contribs) 05:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I removed it; it's POV (that it's a poor translation). If you want, just put Iron Reaver Soul Stealer (*kanji here*, Sankontessou, Soul Shattering Claw). Most of InuYasha's attacks are not a direct translation of the Japanese, making it easiest to use that method instead of explaining every one. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 12:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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