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== [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5|''Palestine-Israel articles 5'']] updates == |
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== Troglodytes == |
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A number of questions I'm pondering: why Texan IP user 108.199.114.22 considers troglodytism to be a disqualification for being human; and why the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troglodyte Troglodyte] disambiguation page doesn't mention such famous troglodytes as the ones from [https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&site=&q=troglodyte+anatolia&oq=troglodyte+anatolia&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1522l10666l0l11034l19l19l0l6l2l1l441l2861l1.6.2.3.1l13l0 Anatolia]. <span style="font-family: Perpetua, serif; font-size:120%"> ← [[User talk:ZScarpia | ZScarpia]] </span> 15:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:Yes, these messages often raise more questions than they answer particularly about the nature of cognitive and ethical impairments. Still, I enjoy them. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<font color="#000">Sean.hoyland</font>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 15:58, 23 January 2012 (UTC) |
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::ZScarpia, exact geography is essential for good anthropology. In particular, I'd recommend a different geolocation service. --<span style="font:8pt verdana; background-color:whitesmoke; border:1px solid gray"> [[User:ElComandanteChe|ElComandanteChe]]<sup style="font-size:7pt">[[User talk:ElComandanteChe#footer|ταλκ]]</sup></span> 20:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capadoccia Capadoccia], then? Have to say, those [http://www.turkeytravelplanner.com/go/CentralAnatolia/Cappadocia/yeralti/ tunneled-out homes] look more desirable than the place I stay. <span style="font-family: Perpetua, serif; font-size:120%"> ← [[User talk:ZScarpia | ZScarpia]] </span> 11:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:::Ah! ... just realised what you meant. Sorry to be so obtuse. What location do you get? Other services still give me Texas. <span style="font-family: Perpetua, serif; font-size:120%"> ← [[User talk:ZScarpia | ZScarpia]] </span> 13:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC) |
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::::Those caves are nice. I think the location confusion comes from AT&T's legal dept being in San Antonio but the server is somewhere in Connecticut. It's probably an anonymizing proxy anyway I guess. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<font color="#000">Sean.hoyland</font>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 13:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::Thanks. Just before you answered, it suddenly occurred to me that they're probably connecting via a mobile phone service, or some such. I've never myself done anything which required me to hide my address and I haven't yet been the object of the attention of nutters who embarrass themselves and others of their group by sending nasty messages, so I've never really had to think before about how anonymous poison-message writers operate on the Web. <span style="font-family: Perpetua, serif; font-size:120%"> ← [[User talk:ZScarpia | ZScarpia]] </span> 13:48, 25 January 2012 (UTC) |
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::::::It looks like a [http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/108.199.114.22 static IP connected by ADLS line]. --<span style="font:8pt verdana; background-color:whitesmoke; border:1px solid gray"> [[User:ElComandanteChe|ElComandanteChe]]<sup style="font-size:7pt">[[User talk:ElComandanteChe#footer|ταλκ]]</sup></span> 23:48, 25 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thanks. I know who I'm going to turn to the next time I need a bit of geolocating doing. <span style="font-family: Perpetua, serif; font-size:120%"> ← [[User talk:ZScarpia | ZScarpia]] </span> 00:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC) |
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== It mus be getting annoying... == |
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But can you please weigh in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Anti-Defamation_League&action=historysubmit&diff=474137673&oldid=474117074|in on this?]] Justifications for deletion seem bogus to me. [[User:Guinsberg|Guinsberg]] ([[User talk:Guinsberg|talk]]) 02:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:Please, have a look at the aforementioned link. All of my edits have been edited out under spurious arguments of slander and BLP, even though they all represent common criticism and referenced to RS material. It's also quite clear to me two editors -- Plot Spoiler and Jayjg -- are planning before hand to remove any critical assessment of ADL from the entry. They are removing one each day, and I believe there's a plot to lure me into "edit warring". [[User:Guinsberg|Guinsberg]] ([[User talk:Guinsberg|talk]]) 21:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::I'm not going to have much time this week but I'll try to have a look when I get a chance. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<font color="#000">Sean.hoyland</font>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 05:20, 2 February 2012 (UTC) |
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First, '''the Committee will accept submissions for new parties for the next three days''', until '''23:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)'''. Anyone who wishes to suggest a party to the case may do so by creating a new section on [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5/Evidence|the evidence talk page]], providing a reason with [[WP:DIFFS]] as to why the user should be added, and notifying the user. After the three-day period ends, no further submission of parties will be considered except in exceptional circumstances. Because the Committee only hears disputes that have failed to be resolved by the usual means, proposed parties should have been recently taken to AE/AN/ANI, and either not sanctioned, or incompletely sanctioned. If a proposed party has not been taken to AE/AN/ANI, evidence is needed as to why such an attempt would have been ineffective. |
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== AE comment == |
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Second, the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5/Evidence|evidence phase]] '''has been extended by a week''', and will now close at '''23:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC)'''. For the Arbitration Committee, <b>[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b> ([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]] • he/they) 03:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC) |
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I understand the compulsion in certain disputes to respond [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=474835512&oldid=474833157 like that] to another editor's comment, but it is better for you to self-revert.--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|The Devil's Advocate]] ([[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|talk]]) 19:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:[[File:HFE Too Slow 1.JPG|thumb|left]] [[User:Sean.hoyland|Sean.hoyland]] ([[User talk:Sean.hoyland#top|talk]]) 03:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC) |
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for your recent comments in various places aren't helping, and this is very sad. --<span style="font:8pt verdana; background-color:whitesmoke; border:1px solid gray"> [[User:ElComandanteChe|ElComandanteChe]]<sup style="font-size:7pt">[[User talk:ElComandanteChe#footer|ταλκ]]</sup></span> 20:35, 3 February 2012 (UTC) |
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[[User:Abishe|Abishe]] ([[User talk:Abishe|talk]]) 23:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Flagging possible sock puppet == |
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Hey there, I've seen you do some great work finding socks and I think I may have found one. [[Special:Contributions/BePrepared1907|This user]] who does very contentious edits in Israel-Palestine has edited the exact same content as [[Special:Contributions/Shoogiboogi|this user]] on several occasions. Their editing styles and the content in general also overlap, and they're both recently EC-obtained editors who moved to contentious edits in Israel-Palestine. Can you look into this and see if there's anything here? Thank you. |
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:I was perfectly calm when I made those comments. Your concern may be better directed at preventing an editor from crossing over to the advocacy dark side. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<font color="#000">Sean.hoyland</font>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 09:41, 4 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::The only editor I can actually prevent from doing anything is I myself. If something is wrong with my editing, and if you have a couple of minutes, please let me know, on- or off-wiki; your criticism is always taken most seriously. --<span style="font:8pt verdana; background-color:whitesmoke; border:1px solid gray"> [[User:ElComandanteChe|ElComandanteChe]]<sup style="font-size:7pt">[[User talk:ElComandanteChe#footer|ταλκ]]</sup></span> 11:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::That's true. You're a very welcome addition to the topic area and there are no complaints from me. If everyone in the topic area was like you I probably wouldn't make any edits there at all. I also think you are probably one of the editors with the best chance to resolve the Gaza Massacre issue, an issue that I think Agada should stay away from, at least in the sense of editing that term in the article as he will probably get himself into trouble again. How to resolve the issue is another matter. Other than having another RfC I have no idea. Hundreds of manhours have been spent on it and I think people have grown tired of the issue. Many, although probably not enough, long term editors have walked away from that article, which may be a good thing in the long run. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<font color="#000">Sean.hoyland</font>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 16:35, 4 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::::RfC is a good idea. BTW, NASA calls it [[LENR]] ... [[User:AgadaUrbanit|AgadaUrbanit]] ([[User talk:AgadaUrbanit|talk]]) 08:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::A handful of editors overturning an RfC that was closed by an uninvolved admin is probably the Wiki equivalent of a coup d'état. I think it would also undermine the RfC dispute resolution mechanism. The issue doesn't seem important or complex enough to go for formal mediation. I'm not sure I see a practical alternative to having another RfC. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<font color="#000">Sean.hoyland</font>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 10:17, 5 February 2012 (UTC) |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Gaza_Health_Ministry&diff=prev&oldid=1263721012] |
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==Vang Vieng== |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Casualties_of_the_Israel–Hamas_war&diff=prev&oldid=1264801146] |
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I've put in a request for semi-protection - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection][[Special:Contributions/220.255.1.89|220.255.1.89]] ([[User talk:220.255.1.89|talk]]) 03:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC) |
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The Axis page talk discussion on the lede that was restored by them [[Talk:Axis of Resistance#Unexplained deletions|had many socks]] involved, so there may be a connection between them and those. [[User:Raskolnikov.Rev|Raskolnikov.Rev]] ([[User talk:Raskolnikov.Rev|talk]]) 23:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== AE == |
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I've added you to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Shuki AE] for unacceptable behaviour of an editor. --[[User:Shuki|Shuki]] ([[User talk:Shuki|talk]]) 05:14, 7 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:Thanks by the way. Was it something I said ? Would it help if I cited a source ? [http://books.google.com/books?id=bFpzNItiO7oC This one perhaps]. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<font color="#000">Sean.hoyland</font>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 11:21, 7 February 2012 (UTC) |
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You are receiving this message because you are on the update list for Palestine-Israel articles 5. The drafters note that the scope of the case was somewhat unclear, and clarify that the scope is The interaction of named parties in the WP:PIA topic area and examination of the WP:AE process that led to two referrals to WP:ARCA
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First, the Committee will accept submissions for new parties for the next three days, until 23:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC). Anyone who wishes to suggest a party to the case may do so by creating a new section on the evidence talk page, providing a reason with WP:DIFFS as to why the user should be added, and notifying the user. After the three-day period ends, no further submission of parties will be considered except in exceptional circumstances. Because the Committee only hears disputes that have failed to be resolved by the usual means, proposed parties should have been recently taken to AE/AN/ANI, and either not sanctioned, or incompletely sanctioned. If a proposed party has not been taken to AE/AN/ANI, evidence is needed as to why such an attempt would have been ineffective.
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Abishe (talk) 23:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Flagging possible sock puppet
Hey there, I've seen you do some great work finding socks and I think I may have found one. This user who does very contentious edits in Israel-Palestine has edited the exact same content as this user on several occasions. Their editing styles and the content in general also overlap, and they're both recently EC-obtained editors who moved to contentious edits in Israel-Palestine. Can you look into this and see if there's anything here? Thank you.
Here are the relevant diffs:
The Axis page talk discussion on the lede that was restored by them had many socks involved, so there may be a connection between them and those. Raskolnikov.Rev (talk) 23:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)