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== Road to FA ==
== Separate article on assassination ==

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Hi Cinadon. Would you be interested in co-noming [[Alexandros Schinas]] for FA with me? <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Levivich|Leviv]]<span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;">[[User Talk:Levivich|ich]]</span></span> 06:33, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|Levivich}} Hi there! I 'd love to! Let me know when and how. [[User:Cinadon36|<b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b>]][[User Talk:Cinadon36|<b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b>]] 07:26, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
::Great! It's been a while since the last time I looked at this article. Over the next day or so I was going to check it the article against the [[WP:FACR|FA criteria]]. [[WP:FAC]] says to get a mentor. I wonder if {{u|czar}} might be available/interested to mentor us? – <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Levivich|Leviv]]<span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;">[[User Talk:Levivich|ich]]</span></span> 07:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Hi Cin. FYI, I made a few tweaks to the article, but other than those, I didn't see much to change. Czar hasn't edited since I pinged, so maybe we should wait a while until they get a chance to respond. Though I think the article is ready to nominate, I think we should get somebody who has FA experience to look it over before it's nominated. What do you think? <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Levivich|Leviv]]<span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;">[[User Talk:Levivich|ich]]</span></span> 22:45, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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{{ping|Levivich|Cinadon36|p=}}, here we go! I suggest a few steps before nominating:
# Verify against the source material. Does each footnote accurately support the cited claim? I lost track during the article's expansion, but you want to be able to vouch that the article is accurate. (This will be spot-checked as part of the review.)
# Account for the article's comprehensiveness. The nature of this article (all of Schinas's unknowns) makes reviewers all but required to ask about whether this is the best possible sourcing. For example, is there really no better sourcing than using the NYT as a 1913 primary source? What databases and books did you search and why is this the best available sourcing? Having a quick explanation either on this talk page or near the FAC nominating statement will preempt the obvious questions.
# Pretty sure the NYT should be italicized within the {{tl|sfn}} since it's a title and not a surname
# More generally, check against the [[WP:FACR|FA criteria]] and if you have time (and haven't already), try giving a review of another FAC to get a sense of what a reviewer will be doing for yours
# I can do the image review, if you prefer. Image copyright can be tricky.
That's where I'd start before nominating. Otherwise I'd expect to do this stuff during the review, which will slow down the process for you. Let me know how I can help but note that I may be a little slow to respond during the week. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 03:42, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:Thanks, {{u|czar}}!
:#This'll take a while, but I'll get started this week.
:#Yeah this is the weakest part. I remember last year exhausting the various google searches (scholar, books, news, web), but not offline or Greek sources – however both of those are rather inaccessible to me. I imagine the best sources are going to be Greek (which I don't speak). Is there even a chance of passing FA without consulting Greek-language sources?
:#Yup
:#Really, review before being reviewed? I feel like I wouldn't know where to start.
:#Sure. I don't think I uploaded any of the images, so I haven't checked their copyright. But I think they're all pre-1924 so should be OK.
:I think it's definitely better to do as much as possible up front before the review. Thanks again for the guidance! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Levivich|Leviv]]<span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;">[[User Talk:Levivich|ich]]</span></span> 05:21, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

::No worries {{u|Levivich}}, I 'll double check the sources in greek and let you know if they are ok or not. And on bibliography, I do not think that there are many RS in Greek that discuss Schinas, but I 'll have a look once more.[[User:Cinadon36|<b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b>]][[User Talk:Cinadon36|<b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b>]] 07:28, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

6. Citations also should be in a unified style and in alphabetical order. E.g., convert the sole {{tl|citation}} line to use {{tlx|cite book|chapter{{=}}}}, include location for either all books or none, and are the Google Books archive links actually archiving anything? Fine to remove them if not, as the citation is truly to the book and not to a website. I also recommend linking the titles of periodicals wherever possible. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 11:17, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:#1-6 done, archiving. [[User:Levivich|Le]][[Special:Contribs/Levivich|v!v]][[User talk:Levivich|ich]] 06:59, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

== Pre-FAC checklist ==
#<del>Source search/comprehensiveness check</del> (see [[Talk:Alexandros Schinas/Archive 2#Sources]])
#<del>Add new sources</del>
#<del>Draft Background section</del>
#<del>Draft Aftermath section</del>
#<del>Rewrite Motives section</del>
#<del>Revisit lead</del>
#<del>Image review</del> (see [[Talk:Alexandros Schinas/Archive 1#Image review]])
#<del>OS/NS dates</del>
#<del>Source verification check</del>
#<del>Update map</del>
#<del>Unify/polish citation format and title italicizations</del>
#<del>FAC criteria check</del>
#<del>Resolve outstanding talk page discussions</del> (see [[Talk:Alexandros Schinas/Archive 2]])
#MOS check
#Copyedit prose

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[[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] FYI [[Assassination of George I of Greece]] is newly translated from [[:fr:Assassinat de Georges Ier de Grèce|the French Wikipedia]] <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 16:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Posting the above to keep track of everything. Please feel free to add/modify. [[User:Levivich|Levivich]] ([[User talk:Levivich|talk]]) 05:28, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:09, 30 December 2024

Separate article on assassination

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FYI Assassination of George I of Greece is newly translated from the French Wikipedia czar 16:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]