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== The climate section is wrong ==
== 5th smallest state ==


Should be 4th smallest state [[Special:Contributions/2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4|2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4]] ([[User talk:2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4|talk]]) 12:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
I have lived in New Jersey my whole life the climate part is simply wrong. New jersey is not subtropical for god's sake it snows here sometimes. I am just saying New Jersey at least the northern half including the eastern part is not subtropical. Tldr new Jersey at least the northern half is not subtropical. [[User:2715o7|2715o7]] ([[User talk:2715o7|talk]]) 12:53, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
:@[[Special:Contributions/2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4|2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4]] Source?? [[user:Lemonaka|<span style="color:blue; text-shadow:jet 0 0.2em 0.2em; font-family:Segoe Print; font-size: 13px">-Lemonaka</span>]] 03:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
:You'll need to give a source for this info. There are those who say that it's [https://state.1keydata.com/states-by-size.php 4th-smallest by land area], but it's [https://statesymbolsusa.org/symbol-official-item/national-us/uncategorized/states-size 5th-smallest by total area], which is what is [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2022/12/09/what-largest-state-us-size-states-land-area/8083288001/ generally used]. <span style="font-family: Courier; background-color: black; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:Lindsey40186|<span style="color: white"><b>Lindsey40186</b></span>]] [[User talk:Lindsey40186|<span style="color: white">(talk)</span>]]</span> 04:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


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=== Climate section discussion ===


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Following two reversions here and here, the [[User:Xanzzibar]] posted the following discussion on my talk page:
In the History section, please remove the sentence “ Around 180 million years ago, during the Jurassic Period, New Jersey bordered North Africa.” This is not mentioned in the source provided. Also please add the subheading of “Prehistoric era”. [[Special:Contributions/2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA|2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA]] ([[User talk:2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA|talk]]) 22:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


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== 12th or 11th most populous? ==
Could you perhaps better explain what you think the original research is? The map is at the source and shows the southern borders of NJ as Cfa, even if you can't make it out for whatever reason; I was just pointing you to the same exact map at a local source so you could better verify it. Alternatively, you can download it from the links in the source, which may alleviate whatever issue keeps you from zooming in enough: https://www.gloh2o.org/koppen/ or https://figshare.com/articles/dataset/Present_and_future_K_ppen-Geiger_climate_classification_maps_at_1-km_resolution/6396959/2. --[[User:Xanzzibar|Xanzzibar]] ([[User talk:Xanzzibar|talk]]) 03:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


The article currently claims that NJ is the 12th most populous state, although it recently said 11th. This is strange, given this claim links to the article showing [[List of U.S. states and territories by population|states by population]], which puts NJ at 11th. What's with the discrepancy? [[User:FiveInParticular|FiveInParticular]] ([[User talk:FiveInParticular|talk]]) 22:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for asking {{ping|Xanzzibar}}. There are two maps in [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6207062/ the document]. I've taken the liberty to screenshot the relevant portions below:
:* {{tq|[https://imgur.com/a/BZGjdVw Part (a)] shows the present-day map ('''1980–2016''').}}
:* {{tq|[https://imgur.com/a/UegS7bP panel (b)] the future map '''(2071–2100)'''}}
:Part (a) might cover [https://imgur.com/R336eUt just the southernmost portion of Cape May etc.] but there are no borders and nothing in the document even mentions the state in writing. To deduce that that's what is in the eye of the beholder, aka [[WP:OR]].
:Assuming the 2071 in panel (b) is a typo and they meant to say 2017-2100, panel (a) is clearly marked as no later as 2017. That was six years ago. We can't say that is "present-day." That is not acceptable per [[WP:RELTIME]]. The only other map in the document appears to show Cfa [https://imgur.com/hrRwJ9m as high a Cape Cod], Massachusetts and indubitably covers the entire state of New Jersey. Still no borders. Still no written mention of Cfa in New Jersey at all. Deducing it so is [[WP:OR]].
:If part (a) is the authoritative map, then it was no longer authoritative as of seven years ago. If panel (b) is to be considered reliable, then it covers the entire state of New Jersey and not just the southernmost portions. But, the only way to verify it is to eyeball it. That requires [[WP:ANALYSIS]] and [[WP:SYNTHESIS]] which is forbidden by [[WP:OR]], so in my opinion a better source is needed.
[[User:Kire1975|Kire1975]] ([[User talk:Kire1975#top|talk]]) 09:12, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
::It's simple enough to tack an "As of 2016," preface onto the statement if you're concerned about relative time with the classification. I disagree that basic map-reading is OR ([[WP:MAPCITE]]), especially when it's so unambiguous (https://i.imgur.com/HCukACc.png), but I'm not really interested in debating it further. Do as you wish. --[[User:Xanzzibar|Xanzzibar]] ([[User talk:Xanzzibar|talk]]) 11:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
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Continuing here:
The map is anything but ambiguous. For 2071 to follow after 2016, that typo alone should render the whole document unreliable. Because of this, any reasonable person could conclude that after 2017, the Cfa goes up to Massachusetts and covers the whole of the state of New Jersey (https://imgur.com/hrRwJ9m). With the respect, the choice to rely on the old map marked "as of 2016" when a new map that is more than likely from 2017 onward is available is [[WP:OR]]. Conclusion: A better source is needed. This is posted here with the intention of seeking consensus. [[User:Kire1975|Kire1975]] ([[User talk:Kire1975|talk]]) 19:47, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

:From the literal first sentence of the abstract, "We present new global maps of the Köppen-Geiger climate classification at an unprecedented 1-km resolution for the present-day (1980–2016) and for projected future conditions (2071–2100) under climate change." You're calling an article in [[Nature (journal)|a respected journal]] that's been cited by nearly 3,000 other papers "unreliable" on extremely faulty bases. --[[User:Xanzzibar|Xanzzibar]] ([[User talk:Xanzzibar|talk]]) 20:32, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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== Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2023 ==

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In 2018, The top countries of origin for New Jersey’s immigrants were India (13 percent of immigrants), Dominican Republic (10 percent), Mexico (5 percent), Ecuador (4 percent), and the Philippines (4 percent). Add this information to the demographics section.

Source: https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/research/immigrants_in_new_jersey.pdf [[Special:Contributions/94.127.212.209|94.127.212.209]] ([[User talk:94.127.212.209|talk]]) 07:32, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2023 ==

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<ref></ref> https://www.haddonfieldnj.org/information/about_our_town/hadrosaurus_foulkii_(_haddy_)_information/index.php#:~:text=a.,of%20Natural%20Sciences%20of%20Philadelphia.


== Citation missing in first paragraph ==
One of the first intact dinosaurs in the whole world was found in Haddonfield Township New Jersey The name of the dinosaur is Hadrosaurs Foulkii. This event occurred in the southern part of New Jersey In Camden County of October 1858 It was unearthed by an individual named William Parker. The dinosaur is known to live in the period of between 70-100 million years ago. [[User:Sep166|Sep166]] ([[User talk:Sep166|talk]]) 23:40, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
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There should be a citation for the fact stated in the first paragraph of the article that New Jersey is the only state for which every county is deemed urban by the US Census Bureau. Is it certain that this fact is true? [[Special:Contributions/73.153.196.210|73.153.196.210]] ([[User talk:73.153.196.210|talk]]) 07:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
== New Jersey Transit Self insured. By who? ==


:The citation for this is in the second paragraph of [[New_Jersey#Population]]. Per [[MOS:LEADCITE]], {{tq|Because the lead usually repeats information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.}} [[User:Kire1975|Kire1975]] ([[User talk:Kire1975|talk]]) 07:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
NJ transit is self insured which means the state of New Jersey picks the tab up from tax payers when they have to pay for an accident. Who is New Jersey insured by. [[User:No1turtle|No1turtle]] ([[User talk:No1turtle|talk]]) 05:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
::The archived citation that is linked for the fact that "New Jersey is the only state for which every count is deemed urban" is a page from 1999 that shows all the metropolitan areas and components within the US. I have two concerns:
::1. Is it true that if a county belongs to a metropolitan area that it is deemed urban? I believe that the Census Bureau has a separate designation for whether an area is deemed "urban," and these areas do not necessarily follow county lines. For example, here are the areas of Delaware that are designated as either an urban cluster or an urbanized area:
::https://dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dph/hp/files/ruralurban.pdf
::Similarly, here is an interactive map that shows the urban areas in New Jersey:
::https://njogis-newjersey.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/NJDOT::urbanized-areas/explore
::Both of these maps show some amount of urban area in every county of both states.
::2. If we do indeed just want to use the fact that all of New Jersey's counties belong to some Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), then I notice in the archived citation from 1999 that all five counties in Rhode Island belong to the Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA Metropolitan Statistical Area. New Jersey is not the only state for which each county belongs to an MSA. [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478|2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478]] ([[User talk:2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478|talk]]) 18:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


== Grammatical error ==
== "Religion in New Jersey" is inconsistent ==


Culture > Cuisine: ''New Jersey'<nowiki/>'''s''' third-largest industry is food and agriculture just behind pharmaceuticals and tourism.'' [[User:RagingBoson|RagingBoson]] ([[User talk:RagingBoson|talk]]) 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
The section on "Religion in New Jersey seems internally inconsistent. The text states "By number of adherents, the largest religious traditions in New Jersey, according to the 2010 Association of Religion Data Archives, were the Roman Catholic Church with 3,235,290; Islam with 160,666; and the United Methodist Church with 138,052.[156]." However, the graphic to the right of this tells a different story, showing the largest groups as Catholic, Protestant, unaffiliated and Jewish, in descending order. There might be some way to reconcile these two orderings, by carefully changing the classifications (splitting Jews and Christians into multiple subcategories), but this is still not a good look. Per the graph, Muslims are 3% of the population; it would take an awful lot of subcategories of Protestant for each subcategory to be smaller than the Muslim population. At the least, the text seems somewhat misleading.


Spencer Klein, Berkeley [[Special:Contributions/2601:644:600:65F0:AE:C0EA:918F:12B9|2601:644:600:65F0:AE:C0EA:918F:12B9]] ([[User talk:2601:644:600:65F0:AE:C0EA:918F:12B9|talk]]) 19:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
:Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 19:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:29, 31 December 2024

Former good article nomineeNew Jersey was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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5th smallest state

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Should be 4th smallest state 2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4 (talk) 12:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4 Source?? -Lemonaka 03:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You'll need to give a source for this info. There are those who say that it's 4th-smallest by land area, but it's 5th-smallest by total area, which is what is generally used. Lindsey40186 (talk) 04:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request

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In the History section, please remove the sentence “ Around 180 million years ago, during the Jurassic Period, New Jersey bordered North Africa.” This is not mentioned in the source provided. Also please add the subheading of “Prehistoric era”. 2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:31, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12th or 11th most populous?

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The article currently claims that NJ is the 12th most populous state, although it recently said 11th. This is strange, given this claim links to the article showing states by population, which puts NJ at 11th. What's with the discrepancy? FiveInParticular (talk) 22:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation missing in first paragraph

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There should be a citation for the fact stated in the first paragraph of the article that New Jersey is the only state for which every county is deemed urban by the US Census Bureau. Is it certain that this fact is true? 73.153.196.210 (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The citation for this is in the second paragraph of New_Jersey#Population. Per MOS:LEADCITE, Because the lead usually repeats information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. Kire1975 (talk) 07:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The archived citation that is linked for the fact that "New Jersey is the only state for which every count is deemed urban" is a page from 1999 that shows all the metropolitan areas and components within the US. I have two concerns:
1. Is it true that if a county belongs to a metropolitan area that it is deemed urban? I believe that the Census Bureau has a separate designation for whether an area is deemed "urban," and these areas do not necessarily follow county lines. For example, here are the areas of Delaware that are designated as either an urban cluster or an urbanized area:
https://dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dph/hp/files/ruralurban.pdf
Similarly, here is an interactive map that shows the urban areas in New Jersey:
https://njogis-newjersey.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/NJDOT::urbanized-areas/explore
Both of these maps show some amount of urban area in every county of both states.
2. If we do indeed just want to use the fact that all of New Jersey's counties belong to some Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), then I notice in the archived citation from 1999 that all five counties in Rhode Island belong to the Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA Metropolitan Statistical Area. New Jersey is not the only state for which each county belongs to an MSA. 2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478 (talk) 18:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grammatical error

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Culture > Cuisine: New Jersey's third-largest industry is food and agriculture just behind pharmaceuticals and tourism. RagingBoson (talk) 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. oknazevad (talk) 19:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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