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== "Religion in New Jersey" is inconsistent == |
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The section on "Religion in New Jersey seems internally inconsistent. The text states "By number of adherents, the largest religious traditions in New Jersey, according to the 2010 Association of Religion Data Archives, were the Roman Catholic Church with 3,235,290; Islam with 160,666; and the United Methodist Church with 138,052.[156]." However, the graphic to the right of this tells a different story, showing the largest groups as Catholic, Protestant, unaffiliated and Jewish, in descending order. There might be some way to reconcile these two orderings, by carefully changing the classifications (splitting Jews and Christians into multiple subcategories), but this is still not a good look. Per the graph, Muslims are 3% of the population; it would take an awful lot of subcategories of Protestant for each subcategory to be smaller than the Muslim population. At the least, the text seems somewhat misleading. |
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Spencer Klein, Berkeley [[Special:Contributions/2601:644:600:65F0:AE:C0EA:918F:12B9|2601:644:600:65F0:AE:C0EA:918F:12B9]] ([[User talk:2601:644:600:65F0:AE:C0EA:918F:12B9|talk]]) 19:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC) |
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== 5th smallest state == |
== 5th smallest state == |
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== First paragraph of history should not be there! == |
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Why does it start 180 million years ago with geography? Does not belong. Every other state page starts with natives. Odd addition. [[User:Parrski|Parrski]] ([[User talk:Parrski|talk]]) 04:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Why doesn't it belong? Is there a problem with the [[WP:RS]]? [[User:Kire1975|Kire1975]] ([[User talk:Kire1975|talk]]) 07:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Chronologically, it makes more sense to start with geography, since the lands formed before the people came. I've checked a few states and they each had sections talking about the geography of the area. <span style="font-family: Courier; background-color: black; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:Lindsey40186|<span style="color: white"><b>Lindsey40186</b></span>]] [[User talk:Lindsey40186|<span style="color: white">(talk)</span>]]</span> 03:55, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== 12th or 11th most populous? == |
== 12th or 11th most populous? == |
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:The citation for this is in the second paragraph of [[New_Jersey#Population]]. Per [[MOS:LEADCITE]], {{tq|Because the lead usually repeats information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.}} [[User:Kire1975|Kire1975]] ([[User talk:Kire1975|talk]]) 07:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
:The citation for this is in the second paragraph of [[New_Jersey#Population]]. Per [[MOS:LEADCITE]], {{tq|Because the lead usually repeats information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.}} [[User:Kire1975|Kire1975]] ([[User talk:Kire1975|talk]]) 07:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::The archived citation that is linked for the fact that "New Jersey is the only state for which every count is deemed urban" is a page from 1999 that shows all the metropolitan areas and components within the US. I have two concerns: |
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::1. Is it true that if a county belongs to a metropolitan area that it is deemed urban? I believe that the Census Bureau has a separate designation for whether an area is deemed "urban," and these areas do not necessarily follow county lines. For example, here are the areas of Delaware that are designated as either an urban cluster or an urbanized area: |
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::https://dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dph/hp/files/ruralurban.pdf |
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::Similarly, here is an interactive map that shows the urban areas in New Jersey: |
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::https://njogis-newjersey.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/NJDOT::urbanized-areas/explore |
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::Both of these maps show some amount of urban area in every county of both states. |
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::2. If we do indeed just want to use the fact that all of New Jersey's counties belong to some Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), then I notice in the archived citation from 1999 that all five counties in Rhode Island belong to the Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA Metropolitan Statistical Area. New Jersey is not the only state for which each county belongs to an MSA. [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478|2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478]] ([[User talk:2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478|talk]]) 18:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Grammatical error == |
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Culture > Cuisine: ''New Jersey'<nowiki/>'''s''' third-largest industry is food and agriculture just behind pharmaceuticals and tourism.'' [[User:RagingBoson|RagingBoson]] ([[User talk:RagingBoson|talk]]) 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 19:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC) |
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5th smallest state
[edit]Should be 4th smallest state 2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4 (talk) 12:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4 Source?? -Lemonaka 03:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- You'll need to give a source for this info. There are those who say that it's 4th-smallest by land area, but it's 5th-smallest by total area, which is what is generally used. Lindsey40186 (talk) 04:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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In the History section, please remove the sentence “ Around 180 million years ago, during the Jurassic Period, New Jersey bordered North Africa.” This is not mentioned in the source provided. Also please add the subheading of “Prehistoric era”. 2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
12th or 11th most populous?
[edit]The article currently claims that NJ is the 12th most populous state, although it recently said 11th. This is strange, given this claim links to the article showing states by population, which puts NJ at 11th. What's with the discrepancy? FiveInParticular (talk) 22:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Citation missing in first paragraph
[edit]There should be a citation for the fact stated in the first paragraph of the article that New Jersey is the only state for which every county is deemed urban by the US Census Bureau. Is it certain that this fact is true? 73.153.196.210 (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- The citation for this is in the second paragraph of New_Jersey#Population. Per MOS:LEADCITE,
Because the lead usually repeats information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.
Kire1975 (talk) 07:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)- The archived citation that is linked for the fact that "New Jersey is the only state for which every count is deemed urban" is a page from 1999 that shows all the metropolitan areas and components within the US. I have two concerns:
- 1. Is it true that if a county belongs to a metropolitan area that it is deemed urban? I believe that the Census Bureau has a separate designation for whether an area is deemed "urban," and these areas do not necessarily follow county lines. For example, here are the areas of Delaware that are designated as either an urban cluster or an urbanized area:
- https://dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dph/hp/files/ruralurban.pdf
- Similarly, here is an interactive map that shows the urban areas in New Jersey:
- https://njogis-newjersey.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/NJDOT::urbanized-areas/explore
- Both of these maps show some amount of urban area in every county of both states.
- 2. If we do indeed just want to use the fact that all of New Jersey's counties belong to some Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), then I notice in the archived citation from 1999 that all five counties in Rhode Island belong to the Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA Metropolitan Statistical Area. New Jersey is not the only state for which each county belongs to an MSA. 2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478 (talk) 18:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Grammatical error
[edit]Culture > Cuisine: New Jersey's third-largest industry is food and agriculture just behind pharmaceuticals and tourism. RagingBoson (talk) 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. oknazevad (talk) 19:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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