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<span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"> <span style="color:ForestGreen;font-size:15px"> [[W:EN:User:TheTechie|<span style="color:#803280">TheTechie@enwiki</span>]]</span> (<span style="color:#324c80">she/they</span> | [[User talk:TheTechie|<span style="color:rgb(90,50,128)">talk</span>]]) </span> 04:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

== Clarification about copy attribution and Commons ==

Hi, GreenLipstickLesbian, and thanks for your efforts helping other users understand our complex rules about attribution of [[WP:CWW|copied]] and [[WP:TFOLWP|translated]] material from other projects. I noticed you helping out a user with copy issues at [[User talk:Cs california|their talk page]] back in May, in particular, [[Special:Diff/1222914040|this explanation]] about whether and why images from Commons are/aren't exempt from copy attribution requirements at Wikipedia when we include images from Commons. You had the right idea, but not quite the right explanation. At Wikipedia, any creative content copied (or translated) from [[WP:List of Wikipedias|another Wikipedia]], [[WP:SISTER|sister project]], or other compatibly licensed project may be copied in whole or in part and pasted into a Wikipedia article without any problem, as long as the attribution rules, which you are familiar with and help other users with, are followed. So far, so good.

[[File:Seaweed farm uroa zanzibar.jpg|thumb|upright=1.55|Seaweed farm in Uroa, Zanzibar{{br}}''<small>No part of this image was copied to this page, it exists only at Commons, therefore no copy attribution is required per [[WP:CWW]].</small>'']]
The deal with images at Commons, is that we do not copy them into a Wikipedia article, we just link them (as you pointed out in your reply). Same thing when we linking to a foreign Wikipedia article; that doesn't require attribution, either, because the content was not copied over—it remains in the original location, only the link is present at the Wikipedia article, and no attribution required for a link.As an example, when we use template {{tl|interlanguage links}}, as in [https://templatecount.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=en&namespace=10&name=Interlanguage_link#bottom these 190,000 links], no attribution is required; it's just a link to someplace else. Same ting for an image: the actual picture bits are not copied over from Commons to Wikipedia, they remain at Commons, and nothing is copied, so no attribution is required.

Maybe a better example, is template {{tl|Excerpt}}. As an example of it, go to the [[Algae]] article, section {{slink|Algae|Cultivation}} and browse that section: scroll down a bit, note the two subsections on Seaweed farming, and Bioreactors; note the five images, and 12 paragraphs of text. None of that material is actually in the wikicode of the page, it is all excerpted (i.e., transcluded) from three different articles, starting with the [[Algaculture]] article for the top part. That whole, long section with the two subsections and the five images, is only 164 bytes—edit it, and see. The editors of that section could have chosen to copy all of that content from the three articles, and had they done that, then the requirements of [[WP:CWW|copy attribution]] would have come into play, and would have been required. But if you transclude or otherwise display text (as with an excerpt) or display an image (as with <code><nowiki>[{File:Seaweed farm uroa zanzibar.jpg|thumb|Seaweed farm]]</nowiki></code>) then you haven't copied anything, the text bits and the image bits do not reside here, they reside on the [[Algaculture]] page, or at Commons, nothing ws copied, and no attribution is required.

When you go to Commons and upload an image, then the image bits *are* stored there, and you'll notice how they require an attribution statement (e.g., 'This is my own work') or they won't even let you upload it. Once the image is stored at Commons with the proper license, there is no further requirement to attribute it at Wikipedia (or at any other sister project) because you aren't copying the image bits to Wikipedia, you are just displaying the image (stored at Commons) on the Wikipedia page via the filename, not copying the image somehow into the wikicode of the page. (There is no way to even do that; if one could copy image bits into the wikicode, then articles would blow up in size from a few tens of kilobytes to many dozens of megabytes.) And that is why Commons images do not require attribution. (But note in the hypothetical case that someone at Commons wrote quite a long, detailed description of their image, say, several hundred words, including sources where they got it from, then if you wanted to copy their long description from the Commons file page and paste it into a new section of your Seaweed farming article, then you *would* have to attribute it.) Hope this helps! [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 02:46, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

:Sorry for the late response, it's a busy time of the year! @[[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]], this is the most meticulous, amazingly detailed response to something I think anybody's ever written me on Wikipedia. Thank you so much - it's wonderfully clear. So the way we handle images is somewhat analogous to transclusions? I can wrap my head around that, I think. Seriously, thank you. This is a wonderful explanation. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 00:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:: I'm so glad you liked it, truly. I enjoy trying to clarify things—I just haven't figured out how to do it in a brief account. Now when someone asks you the same question, you're going to have to figure out how to say in in just a couple of sentences, because 99% of editors will fall asleep before they get to the end of my explanation! But I'm glad you didn't, and when you figure out a pithy, brief way to say it to some questioner, please ping me to it.
:: To your question: yes, it is something like transclusion, although it happens at a different point in the processing. It all starts when a user clicks [[Seaweed farming]] at Wikipedia, causing their browser to issue an Http GET request to our server at en.wikipedia.org. If our articles were written in pure Html, then the web server would just send the article page Html back to the user's browser, which would start building the page, grabbing pieces that are stored elsewhere, like images specified in the Html [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/img &lt;img> tag] from some other server and inserting it into the right spot on the page.
:: But the pages are written in wikicode, not Html, so when the user asks for an article, our server gets the wikicode for the page, and starts translating it into Html. I don't know the internals, but probably it does a preliminary pass first, going through the whole wikicode, stopping every time it hits a template, and replacing ("transcluding") the template with whatever wikicode the template resolves to: bold text, converted units, whatever. So far, the images are still just <code><nowiki>[[File:FOO.jpg|Caption here]]</nowiki></code> code. After all the templates have been replaced, it starts over at the top, translating the whole thing into Html that a browser can understand: wikilinks become &lt;a> tags, <code><nowiki>[[File:FOO.jpg|...]]</nowiki></code> becomes <code><nowiki><img src="/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/FOO.jpg"></nowiki></code> and so on, and then it sends the Html page to the browser—still no image bits, just that &lt;img> tag with a 'src' link where to find it. It is the user's browser's business to go get the image from the Commons server.
:: So, yes, displaying images is kind of like transclusion, with the difference in who does it, and when: the Wikipedia server transcludes all the templates into wikicode when a browser asks for an article, and then translates all the wikicode into Html and sends it to the browser; all the images are just img tags with links at that point. The browser interprets the Html, and asks other servers, i.e. the one at Commons, for images every time it sees an &lt;img> tag with a {{pval|src}} attribute saying where the image is stored. (Caveat: I don't know wikimedia server internals; conceptually, this is correct, but there are other ways to do it, such as depth-first, meaning, translate and transclude all in one step, but that doesn't really affect the explanation.) And if you are still not asleep by now, you deserve a medal! [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 02:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

== Sandbox edit ==

I often get around to formatting the source names after I finish writing the content, but feel free to make any edits that you like! I don't mind letting others edit my sandbox [[User:Fathoms Below|<span style="color:light blue;"><span style="font-size:110%">''Fathoms Below''</span></span>]] [[User talk:Fathoms Below|<span style="color:brown;"><span style="font-size:85%;">(talk)</span></span>]] 16:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

:I was a little bit worried Id overstepped, so thank you! <3 Generic citation names in the author parameter are my personal pet peeve. On a slightly different note, I'm actually interested by the number of times ''Polytopia'' shows up mentioned in regular academic publishing. Nothing SIGCOV, of course, just passing mentions- it seems a non-zero number of people like using it as an example of some mechanism. Who'd have guessed that? [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 00:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

== Copyvios ==

Please make sure if you are removing content for being a copyright violation, as you did at [[World Rivers Day]], that you also request a {{t|revdel}} so the offending content can be [[WP:RD1|properly hidden]]. Thanks. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 16:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Primefac|Primefac]] Oh shoot, I genuinely thought I had on that particular one! Thanks for fixing it. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 23:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
::Heh, no worries. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 13:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Speaking of this, is there any easy way to see a list of all these? It seems like a pretty chill task to deal with individual revisions instead of trying to make sense of how CCI works. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 06:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Clovermoss|Clovermoss]] All current redaction requests get listed in [[:Category:Requested RD1 redactions]]. You have to double check, of course - sometimes people request rd1 redactions for material that's public domain (such as US government works), and some scientific papers and governments publish under a creative commons license but it's not always obvious. But you can also skip the ones that look difficult, and somebody else will get to them.
::::A few weeks ago, (because she's great and helpful like that) @[[User:Sennecaster|Sennecaster]] put together [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems#c-Sennecaster-20241112020700-Rsjaffe-20241112003100 a list] of people who often request revdels and are less likely to have messed something up. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 07:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, once you hang around RD1 requests for a while you start seeing familiar names. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 12:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

==DYK for Anchorage White Raven==
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== Raven award ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for creating [[Anchorage White Raven]]. It's one of the more interesting DYK hooks I've seen in awhile. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 01:18, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Clovermoss|Clovermoss]] Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm just so happy people seem to like the raven as much as I and the rest of Alaska do. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 04:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | The first time I've ever seen you around was like 5 minutes ago when I saw your Teahouse comments. Your uplifting comments intrigued me, so I was looking at your user page, edits, talk page and such and felt my heart grow a smile reading the way you communicate with others, specifically to new editors who need our kindness the most. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia! [[User:TheWikiToby|TheWikiToby]] ([[User talk:TheWikiToby|talk]]) 05:05, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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:{{Ping|TheWikiToby}} Oh gosh, opening up my talk page and seeing this message absolutely made my day! Your kind words are much appreciated, thank you. I've seen you around as well- and you've always left me with a positive feeling towards you. So really, I should be thanking you for all you do! [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 12:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
::😁 Thank you too! [[User:TheWikiToby|TheWikiToby]] ([[User talk:TheWikiToby|talk]]) 16:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

== Barnstar for you ==

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:@[[User:Di (they-them)|Di (they-them)]] No, thank you so much for starting it off! I loved reading about Kamala so much- growing up, we had an elephant at my local zoo. Her name was Maggie, but she used to have a roommate, Annie, who also painted. The zoo framed her paintings, so looking at the ones Kamala did brought me back. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 01:45, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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== A barnstar for you! ==

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:@[[User:TheAstorPastor|TheAstorPastor]] Squee, the rotating barnstar! Thank you so much, and writing that article was genuinely so fun and I'm happy it got kept at AfD! Happy holidays to you! [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 09:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

== Crosshall_cross ==

As I mainly edit and communicate within Wikimedia Commons I am not quite sure whether this is the proper method to establish a connection to you concerning a subject you just edited meantime while I was still adding to the article [[Crosshall_cross]]. Just noticed a few minutes ago that some text had been removed and/or altered.
* I am aware that images from external sources that are not in the public domain may not be used within the Wiki realm.
* And I am also aware that I should reformulate in my own words any text I have found elsewhere.
* But I wasn't aware that I must not even cite text that supports one's understanding of the subject, even if it is more than 70 years old, and which is explicitly declared as being a citation.
* What about links? Any hindrances that must be observed?
FACT: it's now well over midnight here in Germany, so I'll immediately remove all the text I published after your interception at 21:24 hrs and will attempt to find a suitable text form in the coming days.
* I'll inform you when I have completed a corrected version. OK with that?
* By the way, it was really fun contributing to Wikipedia by exploring all these sources that refer to the Crosshall cross. I certainly hadn't expected to discover that many. I won't give up ;-) .
--[[User:Franz van Duns|Franz van Duns]] ([[User talk:Franz van Duns|talk]]) 23:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

== Happy Holidays ==

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'''Hello GreenLipstickLesbian, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this [[Christmas and holiday season|seasonal occasion]]. Spread the [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]] and a [[New Year|Happy New Year]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. <br />Happy editing,'''<br />
[[User:Abishe|Abishe]] ([[User talk:Abishe|talk]]) 22:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

''{{resize|96%|Spread the love by adding {{tls|Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.}}''
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:@[[User:Abishe|Abishe]] Thank you for the wiki-card, and gappy holidays to you as well! [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 09:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

== [[Draft:Carolingian Coinage and the Vikings|Carolingian Coinage and the Vikings]] moved to draftspace ==

Thanks for your contributions to [[Draft:Carolingian Coinage and the Vikings|Carolingian Coinage and the Vikings]]. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it has no sources''' and '''it needs more sources to establish notability'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at [[Help:Unreviewed new page]].
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. [[User:BoyTheKingCanDance|BoyTheKingCanDance]] ([[User talk:BoyTheKingCanDance|talk]]) 10:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

:: Thanks for correcting me. I'm always glad to learn. Best wishes, [[User:BoyTheKingCanDance|BoyTheKingCanDance]] ([[User talk:BoyTheKingCanDance|talk]]) 10:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:BoyTheKingCanDance|BoyTheKingCanDance]] No worries! Thanks for all the patrolling you do! [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 10:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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== [[Draft:Homosexuality in Islam (book)|Homosexuality in Islam (book)]] moved to draftspace ==

Thanks for your contributions to [[Draft:Homosexuality in Islam (book)|Homosexuality in Islam (book)]]. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at [[Help:Unreviewed new page]].
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. [[User:anuwrites|<span style="color: darkgreen">'''ANU<sup>writes</sup>'''</span>]] 07:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Anuwrites|Anuwrites]] There are two full length academic sources? That's a [[WP:NBOOK]] / [[WP:GNG]] pass. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 07:53, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you @[[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] for reaching out, references you provied are actually two book reviews which are personal views on the book and ''{{tq|Reviews often contain personal opinions and interpretations of a book, which can vary greatly between reviewers, making it difficult to establish objective facts thus book reviews alone are not considered reliable enough to be used as primary references on Wikipedia; while they can provide valuable insights and perspectives on a book, they are often subjective opinions and may not be considered sufficiently factual to serve as the sole source for information on a Wikipedia page}}''. As per '''[[WP:BOOK]]''' we have 5 main criteria and passing atleast one criteria would make the book notable, can you show me which of the criteria it passes please? [[User:anuwrites|<span style="color: darkgreen">'''ANU<sup>writes</sup>'''</span>]] 08:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Reply|Anuwrites}} The two independent reviews satisfy [[WP:BOOKCRIT]]#1. (What are you quoting in your {{tl|tq}}?) [[User:SilverLocust|SilverLocust]]&nbsp;[[User talk:SilverLocust|💬]] 08:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you @[[User:SilverLocust|SilverLocust]] for this reminder, but I think it doesn't even pass [[WP:BOOKCRIT]]#1 reminding you that the criter finishes with words; ''{{tq|This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book}}''. Can you take a look at the first reference please? I think it's written/published by '''Taylor & Francis, Ltd''' who owns [https://www.tandfonline.com/ Tandonline] where the second source is written.
::::*'''Comment''': ''Tandfonline'' looks trivial since anyone can submit such review. All I asked was additional references and atleast good book structure as required at '''[[WP:BOOK]].
::::[[User:anuwrites|<span style="color: darkgreen">'''ANU<sup>writes</sup>'''</span>]] 09:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{Reply|Anuwrites}} That exclusion is about when the publisher ''of the book'' speaks about the book, not about reviews that have been published by the publisher ''of the review'' (which would exclude all reviews). ("{{tq|Independent does not mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular book.}}" [[WP:BOOKCRIT]].) [[Taylor & Francis]] is a reputable academic publisher that doesn't just publish whatever people submit (and happens to be a publisher that we have access to via [[Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library|the Wikipedia Library]]). The specific journals, [[British Journal of Middle Eastern Studies]] and [[Culture, Health & Sexuality]], are both [[peer review]]ed. Even if those weren't considered two sources, a variety of other {{tl|sources exist}}, such as reviews in the [[Journal of the American Oriental Society]] [https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?id=GALE%7CA366865739&sid=googleScholar&v=2.1&it=r&linkaccess=abs&issn=00030279&p=AONE&sw=w&userGroupName=anon%7E7d0bdc2c&aty=open-web-entry] or the [[Journal for the Academic Study of Religion]] [https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:372224]. [[User:SilverLocust|SilverLocust]]&nbsp;[[User talk:SilverLocust|💬]] 10:09, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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== The Big Book of Masturbation ==

You undid my edit; you've added the citations in Further Reading section, is this correct, Guide me. [[User:Taabii|<span style="color: HotPink">Taabii</span>]] ([[User talk:Taabii|<span style="color: DarkKhaki">talk</span>]]) 07:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

:Hi, @[[User:Taabii|Taabii]]! Yes, when I'm making academic book stubs like this, I tend to call the "References" section the "Further reading" section. I do this so people know that there is plenty of information in the references that I haven't incorporated into the article yet. This is fine when it comes to really basic book stubs, which really only require a few general references to allow other people to confirm that the book is notable. I hope that answers your question. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 07:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] Thanks for the clarifications. [[User:Taabii|<span style="color: HotPink">Taabii</span>]] ([[User talk:Taabii|<span style="color: DarkKhaki">talk</span>]]) 07:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

== [[Draft:The Big Book of Masturbation|The Big Book of Masturbation]] moved to draftspace ==

Thanks for your contributions to [[Draft:The Big Book of Masturbation|The Big Book of Masturbation]]. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it has no sources''' and '''There is a reading list that includes reliable sources, and these can be used to create an article on this book'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at [[Help:Unreviewed new page]].
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 09:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ... okay, so you've moved this to draft space for both having no sources and ... having sources? It's a stub. It's fully compliant with all policies and guidelinnes. No, it's not a GA, but it's fine in main space. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 09:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::Sources exist, which is why I didn't propose it for deletion. ''Further reading'', with no citations, doesn't make the text referenced. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 09:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] Even the titles of the sources in the general referneces section verify the material in the stub. If the reader can't verify <em> that</em> then I'm afraid that I can't help them. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 09:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] I'm going to go to sleep now, but I see you're still online. As soon as the RD2 clears, could you please move this back into the mainspace? Many thanks, [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 10:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:I think that readers might be better served by having a page on the author, [[Martha Cornog]], where her set of books can be discussed. However, if you'd like to push on with the current article, I think that in its current state, the draft article still isn't ready for main space, so I wouldn't move it - but you can try submitting it for review and getting another opinion. Even better - spend a few minutes improving it! [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 11:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:Talk page watcher here. People really seem like draftifying your articles lately, huh, GLL? I've gone ahead and moved this back to mainspace. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]], it's important to remember that [[WP:NEXIST|notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article]]. [[WP:STUB|Stubs]] are perfectly acceptable forms for articles to take given that their subjects are notable (and whether the citations are in {{tag|ref}} tags is not relevant). I respect your desire to have more complete encyclopedic coverage of this subject, but that problem can be solved through normal editing and is not one of the [[WP:DRAFTREASON|commonly accepted rationales for draftification]]. I'm happy to discuss if you have any questions about this! <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''TechnoSquirrel69'''</span>]]</span> <small>([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''sigh'''</span>]])</small> 14:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|TechnoSquirrel69}} you'll recall that I was concerned about the quality of the article, not the notability of the sources. However, you're right - I probably should have just marked it with [[template:no footnotes|no footnotes]] rather than draftifying. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 15:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks, I hope you understand why I reverted your action for future reference. Also, is there a reason you marked the article as unreviewed? I performed all the usual checks on it before moving it back to mainspace (and automatically marking it reviewed), so I don't think there's any further need for input from NPP at this point. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''TechnoSquirrel69'''</span>]]</span> <small>([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''sigh'''</span>]])</small> 16:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::I have talk page watchers now? I feel so fancy! And yeah, I swear there must be something about academic book stubs that really trips the filters. Thanks for taking care of it! And hopefully I'll get to expanding it soon - the book is availible on Internet Archive, last I checked. I love the Internet Archive. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 08:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

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== Copyright ==

Hi! i've seen a lot of Wikipedia articles in WikiProject Korea do the same thing like what i did but they never been removed. <span style="font-family:Cursive">[[User:Aidillia|<span style="color:#DA1884">Aidillia</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Aidillia|talk]])</sup></span> 07:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Aidillia|Aidillia]] Thanks for letting me know. People aren't meant to be directly translating from Naver and putting it into Wikipedia - do you have any links of articles which do this? [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 07:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::You can see it on '''Category:Category:2020s South Korean television series debuts''', u can found some of them. <span style="font-family:Cursive">[[User:Aidillia|<span style="color:#DA1884">Aidillia</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Aidillia|talk]])</sup></span> 07:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::One more thing, is it okay to rephrase to avoid it? <span style="font-family:Cursive">[[User:Aidillia|<span style="color:#DA1884">Aidillia</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Aidillia|talk]])</sup></span> 07:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Aidillia|Aidillia]] That sort of depends what you mean by "rephrase". If you just mean swap a few words around then no, that's a form a [[WP:CLOP|close paraphrasing]]. External sources on Wikipedia can only be used for information, not words. When it comes to plot summaries and character descriptions, these are best written by somebody who has seen the show and is writing based from their own memory of the show.
:::The Wikimedia Foundation made a free online course that goes more into detail about this issue. [https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/training/editing-wikipedia/plagiarism You can find it here]. You seem passionate and dedicated to Wikipedia, so I think you'd learn a lot from it. [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 07:56, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Ok thanks! <span style="font-family:Cursive">[[User:Aidillia|<span style="color:#DA1884">Aidillia</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Aidillia|talk]])</sup></span> 08:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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:Happy new year to you too, @[[User:Taabii|Taabii]] !!! [[User:GreenLipstickLesbian|GreenLipstickLesbian]] ([[User talk:GreenLipstickLesbian#top|talk]]) 07:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:TechnoSquirrel69 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

Over the last few months, I've seen GreenLipstickLesbian handing out sage advice related to copyright on Wikipedia both on-wiki and over Wikimedia Discord servers — this post being but one example of it. I commend her commitment to and patience in sharing with her fellow editors a glimpse into a process that, while relatively foreign to most editors and thus perpetually understaffed, is vital in helping keep this project alive. She also walks the talk: she has reviewed nearly a thousand cases over on CopyPatrol and puts in her fair share of time at contributor copyright investigations. She's no stranger to content work either: she's nominated three (make that four) DYKs and ostensibly has more evil plans in the making! ;) And while I may be biased in this regard as a coordinator, I loved the recap she wrote for the recently-concluded 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest, which was adapted shortly after into this Signpost article. I hope you'll join me in celebrating the hard and often unappreciated work this editor does. This nomination seconded by User:HouseBlaster, User:The4lines, User:MPGuy2824 and User:Queen of Hearts.

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Provides sage advice related to copyright on Wikipedia both on-wiki and over Wikimedia Discord servers — this post being but one example of it. Her commitment to and patience in sharing with her fellow editors is a glimpse into a process that is vital in helping keep this project alive. She also walks the talk: she has reviewed nearly a thousand cases over on CopyPatrol and puts in her fair share of time at contributor copyright investigations. She has nominated four DYKs and ostensibly has more plans in the making! She wrote the recap for the recently-concluded 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest, which was adapted shortly after into this Signpost article.
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Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 06:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh congrats GLL! Well-deserved. Fathoms Below (talk) 15:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Fathoms! <3 GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 22:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wow... I really don't know what to say here! Holy cow, thanks guys! I love you all so much right now, and all five (‽‽‽‽‽) of you are people who make me proud to be an editor on Wikipedia.
@The4lines I've said this before, but you're so dedicated and hard working in copyright, and you've been so helpful and encouraging, there are times where I feel like I don't deserve to think of you as a friend. You make me proud to know you, and to be a copyright editor. :) And sorry for being a terribly communicator recently - but just know that you're an amazing person and editor.
@MPGuy2824 You're somebody I look up to in NPP - I admire your dedication and expertise, and especially your Herculean efforts to conquer the redirect backlog! With 14,000 reviews, you're a literal legend. And I admire your content work as well, during the DCWC, I learned so much from your lists! And I also admired and remembered how you had twice as many reviews as submissions during that contest. Do you know how great that is?
@Queen of Hearts When you went for ALECT, I actually said "Finally!" out loud! (much to the confusion of my cat, lol). And I was so happy when you passed - and proved that you were the queen of at least 389 Wikipedian hearts.💕 You're such a warm positive force on Wikipedia and the Wikimedia discord. And you're doing wonderfully as an administrator.
@HouseBlaster Category royalty! I make lots of jokes about categories and how I barely understand them- but they're so important, and I'm grateful we have an admin like you in charge of them. You're a wonderful editor, and I admire how thoughtful and meticulous you are, and you treat newbies and other editors.
@TechnoSquirrel69 Thank you so much for writing this - my little heart doesn't quite know how to respond so I guess I'll say: I've got 4 DYKS now. 😛 But, more seriously, you'll note that they were all from recently. When I signed up for the DCWC, I said I wanted to try and push myself into the content processes. Before that, I'd never done a DYK by myself before. I barely knew how the process worked, and I was so scared to get involved! I know I only submitted one entry for the contest, but without it, and without feeling encouraged and supported by my fellow "competitors" and you guys, the co-ordinators, I think I'd probably still have no DYKS to my name. Seriously. You're indirectly responsible for a decent amount of the content I've written now. Including this amazing raven that I now have so many pictures of on my talk. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 22:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, GLL! It's always lovely to see the impact my work has on other people, and I'm glad I played a part in the nudge that led you towards more content and DYK explorations. Here's to many more! (Also, "queen of at least 389 Wikipedian hearts 💕" is a quote for the ages.) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aww, thanks! Your work at CCI is truly commendable. It is deeply appreciated by this editor who will not touch that area with a ten foot pole. Happy holidays :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:09, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy holidays, to both of you! <3 GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:23, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, congrats! Well deserved. -- asilvering (talk) 01:55, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's asilveradar, I swear it has to be! And thank you. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
aradaring? asilverdar? -- asilvering (talk) 09:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
😂 GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 10:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations! QuicoleJR (talk) 15:30, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol January 2025 Backlog drive

January 2025 Backlog Drive | New pages patrol
  • On 1 January 2025, a one-month backlog drive for new pages patrol will begin in hopes of addressing the growing backlog.
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A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for expanding Kamala (elephant) The AP (talk) 16:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheAstorPastor Squee, the rotating barnstar! Thank you so much, and writing that article was genuinely so fun and I'm happy it got kept at AfD! Happy holidays to you! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 09:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Crosshall_cross

As I mainly edit and communicate within Wikimedia Commons I am not quite sure whether this is the proper method to establish a connection to you concerning a subject you just edited meantime while I was still adding to the article Crosshall_cross. Just noticed a few minutes ago that some text had been removed and/or altered.

  • I am aware that images from external sources that are not in the public domain may not be used within the Wiki realm.
  • And I am also aware that I should reformulate in my own words any text I have found elsewhere.
  • But I wasn't aware that I must not even cite text that supports one's understanding of the subject, even if it is more than 70 years old, and which is explicitly declared as being a citation.
  • What about links? Any hindrances that must be observed?

FACT: it's now well over midnight here in Germany, so I'll immediately remove all the text I published after your interception at 21:24 hrs and will attempt to find a suitable text form in the coming days.

  • I'll inform you when I have completed a corrected version. OK with that?
  • By the way, it was really fun contributing to Wikipedia by exploring all these sources that refer to the Crosshall cross. I certainly hadn't expected to discover that many. I won't give up ;-) .

--Franz van Duns (talk) 23:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello GreenLipstickLesbian, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
Happy editing,
Abishe (talk) 22:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 22:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Abishe Thank you for the wiki-card, and gappy holidays to you as well! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 09:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carolingian Coinage and the Vikings moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Carolingian Coinage and the Vikings. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources and it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 10:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for correcting me. I'm always glad to learn. Best wishes, BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 10:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BoyTheKingCanDance No worries! Thanks for all the patrolling you do! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 10:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red January 2025

Women in Red | January 2025, Vol 11, Issue 1, Nos 324, 326, 327, 328, 329


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Homosexuality in Islam (book) moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Homosexuality in Islam (book). Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. ANUwrites 07:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Anuwrites There are two full length academic sources? That's a WP:NBOOK / WP:GNG pass. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:53, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @GreenLipstickLesbian for reaching out, references you provied are actually two book reviews which are personal views on the book and Reviews often contain personal opinions and interpretations of a book, which can vary greatly between reviewers, making it difficult to establish objective facts thus book reviews alone are not considered reliable enough to be used as primary references on Wikipedia; while they can provide valuable insights and perspectives on a book, they are often subjective opinions and may not be considered sufficiently factual to serve as the sole source for information on a Wikipedia page. As per WP:BOOK we have 5 main criteria and passing atleast one criteria would make the book notable, can you show me which of the criteria it passes please? ANUwrites 08:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Anuwrites: The two independent reviews satisfy WP:BOOKCRIT#1. (What are you quoting in your {{tq}}?) SilverLocust 💬 08:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @SilverLocust for this reminder, but I think it doesn't even pass WP:BOOKCRIT#1 reminding you that the criter finishes with words; This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book. Can you take a look at the first reference please? I think it's written/published by Taylor & Francis, Ltd who owns Tandonline where the second source is written.
  • Comment: Tandfonline looks trivial since anyone can submit such review. All I asked was additional references and atleast good book structure as required at WP:BOOK.
ANUwrites 09:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Anuwrites: That exclusion is about when the publisher of the book speaks about the book, not about reviews that have been published by the publisher of the review (which would exclude all reviews). ("Independent does not mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular book." WP:BOOKCRIT.) Taylor & Francis is a reputable academic publisher that doesn't just publish whatever people submit (and happens to be a publisher that we have access to via the Wikipedia Library). The specific journals, British Journal of Middle Eastern Studies and Culture, Health & Sexuality, are both peer reviewed. Even if those weren't considered two sources, a variety of other {{sources exist}}, such as reviews in the Journal of the American Oriental Society [1] or the Journal for the Academic Study of Religion [2]. SilverLocust 💬 10:09, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Big Book of Masturbation

You undid my edit; you've added the citations in Further Reading section, is this correct, Guide me. Taabii (talk) 07:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Taabii! Yes, when I'm making academic book stubs like this, I tend to call the "References" section the "Further reading" section. I do this so people know that there is plenty of information in the references that I haven't incorporated into the article yet. This is fine when it comes to really basic book stubs, which really only require a few general references to allow other people to confirm that the book is notable. I hope that answers your question. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GreenLipstickLesbian Thanks for the clarifications. Taabii (talk) 07:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Big Book of Masturbation moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to The Big Book of Masturbation. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources and There is a reading list that includes reliable sources, and these can be used to create an article on this book. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Klbrain (talk) 09:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Klbrain ... okay, so you've moved this to draft space for both having no sources and ... having sources? It's a stub. It's fully compliant with all policies and guidelinnes. No, it's not a GA, but it's fine in main space. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 09:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources exist, which is why I didn't propose it for deletion. Further reading, with no citations, doesn't make the text referenced. Klbrain (talk) 09:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Klbrain Even the titles of the sources in the general referneces section verify the material in the stub. If the reader can't verify that then I'm afraid that I can't help them. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 09:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Klbrain I'm going to go to sleep now, but I see you're still online. As soon as the RD2 clears, could you please move this back into the mainspace? Many thanks, GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 10:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that readers might be better served by having a page on the author, Martha Cornog, where her set of books can be discussed. However, if you'd like to push on with the current article, I think that in its current state, the draft article still isn't ready for main space, so I wouldn't move it - but you can try submitting it for review and getting another opinion. Even better - spend a few minutes improving it! Klbrain (talk) 11:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Talk page watcher here. People really seem like draftifying your articles lately, huh, GLL? I've gone ahead and moved this back to mainspace. Klbrain, it's important to remember that notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. Stubs are perfectly acceptable forms for articles to take given that their subjects are notable (and whether the citations are in <ref>...</ref> tags is not relevant). I respect your desire to have more complete encyclopedic coverage of this subject, but that problem can be solved through normal editing and is not one of the commonly accepted rationales for draftification. I'm happy to discuss if you have any questions about this! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 14:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TechnoSquirrel69: you'll recall that I was concerned about the quality of the article, not the notability of the sources. However, you're right - I probably should have just marked it with no footnotes rather than draftifying. Klbrain (talk) 15:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I hope you understand why I reverted your action for future reference. Also, is there a reason you marked the article as unreviewed? I performed all the usual checks on it before moving it back to mainspace (and automatically marking it reviewed), so I don't think there's any further need for input from NPP at this point. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have talk page watchers now? I feel so fancy! And yeah, I swear there must be something about academic book stubs that really trips the filters. Thanks for taking care of it! And hopefully I'll get to expanding it soon - the book is availible on Internet Archive, last I checked. I love the Internet Archive. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 08:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled granted

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Since the articles you create will no longer be systematically reviewed by other editors, it is important that you maintain the high standard you have achieved so far in all your future creations. Please also try to remember to add relevant WikiProject templates, stub tags, categories, and incoming links to them, if you aren't already in the habit; user scripts such as Rater and StubSorter can help with this. As you have already shown that you have a strong grasp of Wikipedia's core content policies, you might also consider volunteering to become a new page patroller yourself, helping to uphold the project's standards and encourage other good faith article writers.

Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Sohom (talk) 09:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! i've seen a lot of Wikipedia articles in WikiProject Korea do the same thing like what i did but they never been removed. Aidillia(talk) 07:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aidillia Thanks for letting me know. People aren't meant to be directly translating from Naver and putting it into Wikipedia - do you have any links of articles which do this? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can see it on Category:Category:2020s South Korean television series debuts, u can found some of them. Aidillia(talk) 07:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing, is it okay to rephrase to avoid it? Aidillia(talk) 07:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Aidillia That sort of depends what you mean by "rephrase". If you just mean swap a few words around then no, that's a form a close paraphrasing. External sources on Wikipedia can only be used for information, not words. When it comes to plot summaries and character descriptions, these are best written by somebody who has seen the show and is writing based from their own memory of the show.
The Wikimedia Foundation made a free online course that goes more into detail about this issue. You can find it here. You seem passionate and dedicated to Wikipedia, so I think you'd learn a lot from it. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:56, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thanks! Aidillia(talk) 08:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

GreenLipstickLesbian,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! Taabii (talk) 07:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy new year to you too, @Taabii !!! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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