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== Presidential run? ==

Did he get any write-in votes? [[User:Schizombie|Шизомби]] ([[User talk:Schizombie|talk]]) 15:17, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
The opening paragraph is way too hagiography. Certainly this is potentially the greatest trumpeter even, but let's source it. Too jazzolphlie in the opening. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.68.126.5|74.68.126.5]] ([[User talk:74.68.126.5|talk]]) 12:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Cheeks ==

No mention of the cheeks in the article--(why/how they puffed out so far). I don't care how unorthodox your embouchure, most humans couldn't reproduce that effect with two bowling balls in their mouths. Definitely NOT normal. Did he have a disease? Considering that those iconic puffy cheeks are what people probably first envision at the mention of Gillespie's name, I think an explanation of this grotesque, yet strangely endearing phenomenon would be in order. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.55.246.132|75.55.246.132]] ([[User talk:75.55.246.132|talk]]) 00:32, 22 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Charlie Christian should be mentioned somewhere in this article, because he was key in influencing both Diz and Bird in those early days at the Minton's Jam sessions. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/198.151.130.19|198.151.130.19]] ([[User talk:198.151.130.19|talk]]) 20:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Just to carry on from what 75.55.246.132 says above, this article really does need to address Dizzy's ability to puff out his cheeks that way. Was he naturally able to do that or was it through practice? Clearly he'd been able to do it from an early time. The fact few if any other jazz musicians are able to do this renders this phenomenon de facto notable and worthy of discussion here. And it wasn't a case of "agree to ignore" because I vividly remember Dizzy poking fun at his ability during his Muppet Show appearance. The bent trumpet is identified as Dizzy's trademark, but I contest it was his cheeks that was the more lasting trademark. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.64.9|68.146.64.9]] ([[User talk:68.146.64.9|talk]]) 04:23, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

:I second this! I came here just to find out about his cheeks and to find out if he was using some kind of [[Circular breathing]] technique. I was surprised that it isn't even mentioned.--[[Special:Contributions/141.16.91.106|141.16.91.106]] ([[User talk:141.16.91.106|talk]]) 11:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
== Pictures ==

there is not a good picture in this article so here are a few




[http://www.last.fm/music/Dizzy+Gillespie/+images/845322 Clich here fo slideshow of 27 pictures]
febuary 11 20 11--[[Special:Contributions/204.193.201.96|204.193.201.96]] ([[User talk:204.193.201.96|talk]]) 01:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)COOLMAN

== de ritin is no gud ==

This is perhaps the most poorly written article I have encountered on Wikipedia. Enthusiasts, please fix it up. No time do to it myself. Diz deserves far better. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/97.115.106.49|97.115.106.49]] ([[User talk:97.115.106.49|talk]]) 09:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:No time, eh? Somehow you had enough time to [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Pat_Travers&action=historysubmit&diff=443326746&oldid=440283272 vandalize another article]. Do you actually have any constructive suggestions to make? –[[User:BMRR|BMRR]] ([[User talk:BMRR|talk]]) 16:02, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


I'm a big fan of Dizzy's and a copyeditor, I would like to tighten up the text, especially in the first section, if no one has any objections. I don't have an agenda or any intention of changing the content.
--[[User:KimVanA|KimVanA]] ([[User talk:KimVanA|talk]]) 22:24, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

:Please do! [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 23:39, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

== The Sound of Surprise ==

I have removed the claim that Gillespie was called this. It's the title of a book by [[Whitney Balliett]], which contains many references to Dizzy, but none refer to him thus. A proper citation is needed. [[User:Rothorpe|Rothorpe]] ([[User talk:Rothorpe|talk]]) 00:27, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

== Pianist on [[Billie's Bounce]] ==

At [[Savoy Records]], there is a picture of the label. If that is Dizzy on piano, what is his pseudonym there? Max Gales...? [[User:Rothorpe|Rothorpe]] ([[User talk:Rothorpe|talk]]) 22:22, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


== How is there no mention of Chico O'Farrill? ==
== Big band or small band? ==


The article says "In 1945, Gillespie left Eckstine's band because he wanted to play with a small combo." But two paragraphs later, it says "Unlike Parker, who was content to play in small groups and be an occasional featured soloist in big bands, Gillespie aimed to lead a big band himself; his first, unsuccessful, attempt to do this was in 1945." They can't both be correct, or can they? <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/46.208.74.149|46.208.74.149]] ([[User talk:46.208.74.149|talk]]) 12:24, 19 June 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico_O%27Farrill<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:72.205.3.184|72.205.3.184]] ([[User talk:72.205.3.184|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/72.205.3.184|contribs]]) 22:45, 26 April 2016‎ (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->


== Removed multiple possessive pronouns ==
== Dizzy Gillespie discography ==


I removed all "hises" but the first from the opening sentence of "His beret and horn-rimmed spectacles, his scat singing, his bent horn, pouched cheeks, and his light-hearted personality provided some of bebop's most prominent symbols." Could anyone please tell me if it's okay to list something like "his table, his chair, and his lamp" in a sentence, or if it's more acceptable to just use the possessive pronoun once? Also, sorry to be passive-aggressive to whoever wrote that sentences, or just the "hises", in my edit note. I originally wrote a [[Special:Redirect/revision/1018540617#Using multiple possessive pronouns in a list|version of this]] on the help desk, but then deleted it when I realized it would be better to ask it here first, since other users have told me to do that and [[Wikipedia:Help_desk/Are_you_in_the_right_place|this page]] seems to indicate that I should.--[[User:Thylacine24|Thylacine24]] ([[User talk:Thylacine24|talk]]) 16:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
''' Support split '''- Discography section is close to one quarter of the page and should be split to a new article entitled [[Dizzy Gillespie discography]]. --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 01:54, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

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How is there no mention of Chico O'Farrill?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico_O%27Farrill— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.205.3.184 (talkcontribs) 22:45, 26 April 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

Removed multiple possessive pronouns

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I removed all "hises" but the first from the opening sentence of "His beret and horn-rimmed spectacles, his scat singing, his bent horn, pouched cheeks, and his light-hearted personality provided some of bebop's most prominent symbols." Could anyone please tell me if it's okay to list something like "his table, his chair, and his lamp" in a sentence, or if it's more acceptable to just use the possessive pronoun once? Also, sorry to be passive-aggressive to whoever wrote that sentences, or just the "hises", in my edit note. I originally wrote a version of this on the help desk, but then deleted it when I realized it would be better to ask it here first, since other users have told me to do that and this page seems to indicate that I should.--Thylacine24 (talk) 16:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]