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Why "Winterton"?

Where did the name of this peerage come from? Despite the territorial designation, it doesn't seem to be a place in Co. Galway (list of towns and villages in County Galway, list of townlands of County Galway) and it doesn't seem to be a surname in the history of the 1st Earl's family. I thought it might be an English place name (as non-Irish place names were sometimes used in Irish titles, like Earl of Ranfurly and Earl of Mexborough), but there don't seem to be any Wintertons near the family's then seat in West Sussex either. All of the peerage reference books I can find just note that the 1st Earl was created Baron Winterton and then Earl Winterton without giving any explanation as to why this title was chosen. It is particularly odd because obvious choices were available, like the 1st Earl's paternal surname (Garth), the surname of his maternal inheritance (Turnour), the name of his inherited seat (Shillinglee) and various places near there (like Haslemere). Proteus (Talk) 14:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Why "Winterton"? ==
+Where did the name of this peerage come from? Despite the territorial designation, it doesn't seem to be a place in Co. Galway ([[list of towns and villages in County Galway]], [[list of townlands of County Galway]]) and it doesn't seem to be a surname in the history of the 1st Earl's family. I thought it might be an English place name (as non-Irish place names were sometimes used in Irish titles, like [[Earl of Ranfurly]] and [[Earl of Mexborough]]), but there don't seem to be any Wintertons near the family's then seat in West Sussex either. All of the peerage reference books I can find just note that the 1st Earl was created Baron Winterton and then Earl Winterton without giving any explanation as to why this title was chosen. It is particularly odd because obvious choices were available, like the 1st Earl's paternal surname (Garth), the surname of his maternal inheritance (Turnour), the name of his inherited seat ([[Shillinglee]]) and various places near there (like [[Haslemere]]). [[User:Proteus|Proteus]] [[User_talk:Proteus|(Talk)]] 14:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)