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Nothing in the source suggests that chamber pop is a form of classical music. The focus of the article is about rock music, and the writer explicitly characterizes chamber pop as involving rock bands that incorporate string sections. "Rock music and string sections. ... For decades, rock bands looking for a fuller sound have embraced their classical counterparts. ... Music fans and writers have a variety of names for this hybrid: symphonic pop, chamber pop, orchestral pop"
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{{short description|Subgenre of indie pop or indie rock}}
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| name = Chamber pop
| name = Chamber pop
| other_names = {{hlist|[[Baroque pop]]|[[orchestral pop]]<ref name="Bulletin"/><ref name="derog2004"/>}}
| bgcolor = crimson
| other_names = Ork-pop<ref name="Bulletin"/><ref name="derog2004"/>
| stylistic_origins =
| stylistic_origins =
* [[Rock music|Rock]]<ref name="Bulletin"/>
* [[Rock music|Rock]]<ref name="Bulletin"/>
* [[indie rock]]{{sfn|Tonelli|2004|p=3}}
* [[indie pop]]<ref name="AMIndiePop"/>
* [[lounge music|lounge]]<ref name="am chamberpop"/>{{sfn|Tonelli|2004|p=3}}
* [[lounge music|lounge]]<ref name="am chamberpop"/>{{sfn|Tonelli|2004|p=3}}
* [[baroque pop]]<ref name="am chamberpop"/>
* [[Classical music|classical]]<ref name="Bulletin"/>
* [[Classical music|classical]]<ref name="Bulletin"/>
* [[indie rock]]{{sfn|Tonelli|2004|p=3}}
* [[indie pop]]<ref name="AMIndiePop"/>
| cultural_origins = 1960s–1990s, United States
| cultural_origins = 1960s–1990s, United States
| instruments =
| instruments =
* [[string instruments|Strings]]<ref name="am chamberpop"/><ref name="TrebleEssential"/>
* [[string instruments|Strings]]<ref name="am chamberpop"/><ref name="TrebleEssential"/>
* [[French horn|horns]]<ref name="am chamberpop">{{cite web|title=Chamber pop|url=http://www.allmusic.com/style/chamber-pop-ma0000012300|website=[[AllMusic]]}}</ref><ref name="TrebleEssential"/>
* [[French horn|horns]]<ref name="am chamberpop">{{cite web|title=Chamber pop|url=http://www.allmusic.com/style/chamber-pop-ma0000012300|website=[[AllMusic]]|access-date=March 5, 2016|archive-date=June 27, 2015|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150627011153/http://www.allmusic.com/style/chamber-pop-ma0000012300|url-status=live}}</ref><ref name="TrebleEssential"/>
* [[piano]]<ref name="TrebleEssential">{{cite magazine|author=Treble staff|title=10 Essential Chamber Pop Albums|url=http://www.treblezine.com/31905-10-best-chamber-pop-albums/|date=September 22, 2016|magazine=[[Treblezine]]}}</ref>
* [[piano]]<ref name="TrebleEssential">{{cite magazine|author=Treble staff|title=10 Essential Chamber Pop Albums|url=http://www.treblezine.com/31905-10-best-chamber-pop-albums/|date=September 22, 2016|magazine=[[Treblezine]]|access-date=November 20, 2016|archive-date=December 2, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201202211037/https://www.treblezine.com/31905-10-best-chamber-pop-albums/|url-status=live}}</ref>
* [[chamberlin]]<ref name="TrebleEssential"/>
* [[chamberlin]]<ref name="TrebleEssential"/>
* [[vibraphone]]<ref name="TrebleEssential"/>
* [[vibraphone]]<ref name="TrebleEssential"/>
| derivatives =
| derivatives =
| subgenrelist =
| subgenres =
| subgenres =
| fusiongenres =
| fusiongenres =
| regional_scenes =
| regional_scenes =
| other_topics =
| other_topics = * [[List of chamber pop albums]]
* [[él Records]]
* [[él Records]]
* [[lo-fi music]]
* [[lo-fi music]]
* [[orchestral pop]]
* [[Shibuya-kei]]
* [[Shibuya-kei]]
* [[symphonic pop]]
}}
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'''Chamber pop''' (sometimes called '''ork-pop''',<ref name="Bulletin"/><ref name="derog2004"/> short for "[[orchestral pop]]")<ref name="Bulletin"/><ref name="Morris"/> is a style of [[rock music]]<ref name="Bulletin"/> characterized by an emphasis on [[melody]] and [[texture (music)|texture]], the intricate use of [[string section|strings]], [[horn section|horn]]s, [[piano]], and [[vocal harmony|vocal harmonies]], and other components drawn from the orchestral and [[lounge music|lounge]] pop of the 1960s. Artists such as [[Burt Bacharach]] and [[the Beach Boys]]' [[Brian Wilson]] (especially the band's 1966 album ''[[Pet Sounds]]'') were formative acts during the genre's original wave in the 1960s.
'''Chamber pop''' (also called [[baroque pop]]<ref>{{cite book |last1=Jackson |first1=Andrew Grant |title=1965: The Most Revolutionary Year in Music |date=2015 |publisher=St. Martin's Publishing Group |page=22}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |last1=Staff |title=Chamber Pop Music Guide: 7 Notable Chamber Pop Artists |url=https://www.masterclass.com/articles/chamber-pop-music-guide |website=Masterclass |access-date=5 December 2022}}</ref> and sometimes conflated with [[orchestral pop]] or symphonic pop<ref name="Bulletin"/>) is a music genre that combines [[rock music]]<ref name="Bulletin"/> with the intricate use of [[string section|strings]], [[horn section|horn]]s, [[piano]], and [[vocal harmony|vocal harmonies]], and other components drawn from the orchestral and [[lounge music|lounge]] pop of the 1960s, with an emphasis on [[melody]] and [[texture (music)|texture]].


During chamber pop's initial emergence in the 1960s, producers such as [[Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller]], [[Burt Bacharach]], [[Lee Hazlewood]], and [[the Beach Boys]]' [[Brian Wilson]] served as formative artists of the genre. Wilson's productions of [[the Beach Boys]]' albums ''[[Pet Sounds]]'' and ''[[Smile (The Beach Boys album)|Smile]]'' are cited as particularly influential to the genre. From the early 1970s to early 1990s, most chamber pop acts saw little to no mainstream success. The genre's decline was attributed to costly touring and recording logistics and a reluctance among [[record label]]s to finance instruments like strings, horns, and keyboards on artists' albums.
In the mid 1990s, chamber pop developed as a subgenre of [[indie rock]]{{sfn|Tonelli|2004|p=3}} or [[indie pop]]<ref name="AMIndiePop">{{cite web|title=Indie Pop|url=http://www.allmusic.com/style/indie-pop-ma0000004494|website=[[AllMusic]]}}</ref> in which musicians opposed the [[distortion (music)|distorted]] guitars, [[lo-fi music|lo-fi]] aesthetic, and simple arrangements common to the [[alternative music|alternative]] or "[[modern rock]]" groups of that era. In Japan, the movement was paralleled by [[Shibuya-kei]], another indie genre that was formed on some of the same bedrock of influences. By the 2000s, the term "chamber pop" would be inconsistently applied to a variety of bands whose work attracted comparisons to ''Pet Sounds''.


In the mid-1990s, chamber pop developed as a subgenre of [[indie rock]]{{sfn|Tonelli|2004|p=3}} or [[indie pop]]<ref name="AMIndiePop">{{cite web|title=Indie Pop|url=http://www.allmusic.com/style/indie-pop-ma0000004494|website=[[AllMusic]]|access-date=June 24, 2016|archive-date=July 15, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160715224851/http://www.allmusic.com/style/indie-pop-ma0000004494|url-status=live}}</ref> in which musicians opposed the [[distortion (music)|distorted]] guitars, [[lo-fi music|lo-fi]] aesthetic, and simple arrangements common to the [[alternative rock|alternative]] or "[[modern rock]]" groups of that era. In Japan, the movement was paralleled by ''[[Shibuya-kei]]'', another indie genre that was formed on some of the same bedrock of influences. By the 2000s, the term "chamber pop" would be inconsistently applied to a variety of bands whose work attracted comparisons to ''Pet Sounds''.
==Definition and beginnings==

==Definition and etymology==
{{Details|Orchestral pop|Pet Sounds|él Records}}
{{Details|Orchestral pop|Pet Sounds|él Records}}
{{See also|Progressive pop|progressive rock}}
[[File:The High Llamas (5928653004).jpg|thumb|right|[[The High Llamas]] performing in 2011 (leader [[Sean O'Hagan]] pictured)]]
[[File:The High Llamas (5928653004).jpg|thumb|right|[[The High Llamas]] performing in 2011 (leader [[Sean O'Hagan]] pictured)]]


The combination of [[string section]]s and [[rock music]] has been called "[[symphonic pop]]", "chamber pop", and "ork-pop" (short for [[orchestral pop]]).<ref name="Bulletin">{{cite news|last1=Salmon|first1=Ben|date=May 25, 2007|title=Classic combo|work=[[The Bulletin (Bend)|The Bulletin]]|url=http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideshows/1516497-151/classic-combo|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160610031425/http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideshows/1516497-151/classic-combo|archive-date=June 10, 2016}}</ref> Ork-pop refers to a branch of underground rock musicians who shared an affinity with [[the Beach Boys]]' 1966 studio album ''[[Pet Sounds]]'', such as [[the High Llamas]] and bands from the [[Elephant 6]] collective.{{sfn|DeRogatis|2003|pp=39, 95}} According to ''[[CMJ]]''{{'}}s David Jerman, the name was the creation of rock critics, "encompassing everyone from fans of the Beach Boys to fans of [[Burt Bacharach|Bacharach]] and [[Henry Mancini|Mancini]]".<ref name="Jarman1998">{{cite magazine|last=Jarman|first=David|title=Reviews|magazine=CMJ New Music Monthly|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=xikEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA60|date=July 1998|publisher=CMJ Network, Inc.|page=60|issn=1074-6978}}</ref> Chamber pop is stylistically diverse.<ref name="TrebleEssential" /> [[AllMusic]] states that the genre carries on the "spirit" of the [[baroque pop]] of the 1960s,<ref name="am baroquepop">{{cite web|title=Baroque pop|url=http://www.allmusic.com/subgenre/baroque-pop-ma0000012101|website=[[AllMusic]]}}</ref> while cultural writers Joseph Fisher and Brian Flota call it the "heir" to baroque pop.{{sfn|Flota|Fisher|2013|p=122}}{{refn|group=nb|Although baroque pop was prefigured by producers like [[Phil Spector]], whose arrangements were orchestral and heavily layered, the genre was distinguished for its [[Romanticism|Romantic]] aesthetic, small string ensembles, and more classically-derived melodies.{{sfn|Janovitz|2013|p=81}}}} Strongly influenced by the rich orchestrations of Burt Bacharach, [[Brian Wilson]], and [[Lee Hazlewood]], chamber pop artists once again focused on melody and texture.<ref name="am chamberpop"/> Another major source of influence was the singer [[Scott Walker (singer)|Scott Walker]].<ref name="TrebleEssential" /> ''[[New York Daily News]]''{{'}} Jim Farber summarizes the genre; "think [[Donovan]] meets Burt Bacharach".<ref>{{cite news|last1=Farber|first1=Jim|title=Belle and Sebastian's 'Write About Love' review: Stuart Murdoch and his sound mature|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/belle-sebastian-write-love-review-stuart-murdoch-sound-mature-article-1.191924|work=[[New York Daily News]]|date=October 12, 2010}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|''[[Spin (magazine)|Spin]]'' magazine refers to Bacharach and Wilson as "gods" of orchestral pop.<ref name="LLC2006">{{cite magazine|title=Reviews|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=iemUgvxmQcYC&pg=PA100|date=October 2006|magazine=[[Spin (magazine)|Spin]]|issn=0886-3032}}</ref> In journalist [[Chris Nickson]]'s opinion, the "apex" of orchestral pop lied in Walker, explaining that "in his most fertile period, 1967–70, he created a body of work that was, in its own way, as revolutionary as the Beatles'. He took the ideas of Mancini and Bacharach to their logical conclusion, essentially redefining the concept of orchestral pop."<ref name="Inc.1997">{{cite journal|last=Nickson|first=Chris|title=The Sons of Scott Walker|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=pCkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA20|date=November 1997|journal=[[CMJ New Music Monthly]]|author-link=Chris Nickson|pages=20, 22|issn=1074-6978}}</ref>}}
The combination of [[string section]]s and [[rock music]] has been called "[[symphonic pop]]", "chamber pop", and [[orchestral pop]] (or "ork-pop" for short).<ref name="Bulletin">{{cite news|last1=Salmon|first1=Ben|date=May 25, 2007|title=Classic combo|work=[[The Bulletin (Bend)|The Bulletin]]|url=http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideshows/1516497-151/classic-combo|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160610031425/http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideshows/1516497-151/classic-combo|archive-date=June 10, 2016}}</ref> The first use of strings in R&B or rock music was in the 1959 song [[There Goes My Baby (The Drifters song)|"There Goes My Baby"]] by [[The Drifters]], produced by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller with string arrangement by [[Stan Applebaum]]. The following year, [[The Shirelles]] song "[[Will You Love Me Tomorrow]]", written by [[Carole King]] and featuring a string section, was released to critical acclaim and rose to #1 on the ''[[Billboard (Magazine)|Billboard Magazine]]'' Hot 100 chart. [[The Beatles]] began implementing string arrangements in their music, starting with the 1965 song "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]," and further expanded upon the use of horns and strings on their 1966 album ''[[Revolver (Beatles album)|Revolver]]''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.geocities.ws/pisces2878/OA/GuitarWorldGeorge.html|title=Guitar World Interviews George Harrison|date=1992}}</ref> [[The Beach Boys]] would develop their response to The Beatles' 1965 album ''[[Rubber Soul]]'' with their own 1966 studio album ''[[Pet Sounds]]'', which would further explore the use of strings in rock music and define the [[baroque pop]] genre.
Ork-pop refers to a branch of underground rock musicians who shared an affinity with the Pet Sounds album, such as [[The High Llamas]] and bands from the [[Elephant 6]] collective.{{sfn|DeRogatis|2003|pp=39, 95}} According to ''[[CMJ]]''{{'}}s David Jerman, the name was the creation of rock critics, "encompassing everyone from fans of the Beach Boys to fans of [[Burt Bacharach|Bacharach]] and [[Henry Mancini|Mancini]]".<ref name="Jarman1998">{{cite magazine|last=Jarman|first=David|title=Reviews|magazine=CMJ New Music Monthly|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=xikEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA60|date=July 1998|publisher=CMJ Network, Inc.|page=60|issn=1074-6978|access-date=August 27, 2016|archive-date=July 27, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200727192322/https://books.google.com/books?id=xikEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA60|url-status=live}}</ref> Chamber pop is stylistically diverse.<ref name="TrebleEssential" /> [[AllMusic]] states that the genre carries on the "spirit" of the baroque pop of the 1960s,<ref name="am baroquepop">{{cite web|title=Baroque pop|url=http://www.allmusic.com/subgenre/baroque-pop-ma0000012101|website=[[AllMusic]]|access-date=March 5, 2016|archive-date=August 9, 2015|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150809151253/http://www.allmusic.com/subgenre/baroque-pop-ma0000012101|url-status=live}}</ref> while cultural writers Joseph Fisher and Brian Flota call it the "heir" to baroque pop.{{sfn|Flota|Fisher|2013|p=122}}{{refn|group=nb|Although baroque pop was prefigured by producers like [[Phil Spector]], whose arrangements were orchestral and heavily layered, the genre was distinguished for its [[Romanticism|Romantic]] aesthetic, small string ensembles, and more classically-derived melodies.{{sfn|Janovitz|2013|p=81}}}} Strongly influenced by the rich orchestrations of Burt Bacharach, [[Brian Wilson]], and [[Lee Hazlewood]], chamber pop artists once again focused on melody and texture.<ref name="am chamberpop"/> Another major source of influence was the singer [[Scott Walker (singer)|Scott Walker]].<ref name="TrebleEssential" /> ''[[New York Daily News]]''{{'}} Jim Farber summarizes the genre; "think [[Donovan]] meets Burt Bacharach".<ref>{{cite news|last1=Farber|first1=Jim|title=Belle and Sebastian's 'Write About Love' review: Stuart Murdoch and his sound mature|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/belle-sebastian-write-love-review-stuart-murdoch-sound-mature-article-1.191924|work=[[New York Daily News]]|date=October 12, 2010|access-date=August 20, 2016|archive-date=October 5, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20161005205842/http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/belle-sebastian-write-love-review-stuart-murdoch-sound-mature-article-1.191924|url-status=live}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|''[[Spin (magazine)|Spin]]'' magazine refers to Bacharach and Wilson as "gods" of orchestral pop.<ref name="LLC2006">{{cite magazine|title=Reviews|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=iemUgvxmQcYC&pg=PA100|date=October 2006|magazine=[[Spin (magazine)|Spin]]|issn=0886-3032|access-date=November 21, 2016|archive-date=July 4, 2022|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220704004421/https://books.google.com/books?id=iemUgvxmQcYC&pg=PA100|url-status=live}}</ref> In journalist [[Chris Nickson]]'s opinion, the "apex" of orchestral pop lied in Walker, explaining that "in his most fertile period, 1967–70, he created a body of work that was, in its own way, as revolutionary as the Beatles'. He took the ideas of Mancini and Bacharach to their logical conclusion, essentially redefining the concept of orchestral pop."<ref name="Inc.1997">{{cite journal|last=Nickson|first=Chris|title=The Sons of Scott Walker|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=pCkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA20|date=November 1997|journal=[[CMJ New Music Monthly]]|author-link=Chris Nickson|pages=20, 22|issn=1074-6978|access-date=November 21, 2016|archive-date=July 4, 2022|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220704004422/https://books.google.com/books?id=pCkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA20|url-status=live}}</ref>}}


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|description=Described as "[[psychedelic music|proto-psychedelic]] chamber pop" by biographer Mark Dillon, "[[Wonderful (The Beach Boys song)|Wonderful]]" showcases Wilson's lead vocals and harpsichord-playing supported by trumpet and the Beach Boys' "parlor-room harmonies".{{sfn|Dillon|2012|p=151}}}}
|description=Described as "[[psychedelic music|proto-psychedelic]] chamber pop" by biographer Mark Dillon, "[[Wonderful (The Beach Boys song)|Wonderful]]" showcases Wilson's lead vocals and harpsichord-playing supported by trumpet and the Beach Boys' "parlor-room harmonies".{{sfn|Dillon|2012|p=151}}}}


''Newsmakers'' believes that the Beach Boys' ''Pet Sounds'' helped define chamber pop as "intimate, precisely arranged songs with rock's sweep but without its bluesy clamor."<ref name="CollinsInc">{{cite book|last=Collins|first=Louise Mooney|title=Newsmakers|year=1996|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=rEsrIi8InDcC|publisher=Gale Research Inc.|page=122|isbn=9780810393219}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|Writing about the [[Pet Sounds (instrumental)|album's title track]] in his 2017 memoir, Wilson said: "I loved ''[[Thunderball (soundtrack)|Thunderball]]'', which had come out the year before, and I loved listening to composers like Henry Mancini, who did these cool themes for shows like ''[[Peter Gunn]]'', and [[Les Baxter]], who did all these big productions that sounded sort of like Phil Spector productions."{{sfn|Wilson|Greenman|2016|p=179}}}} Following the album was the group's unfinished 1966–67 work ''[[Smile (The Beach Boys album)|Smile]]'', a collaboration between Brian Wilson and lyricist [[Van Dyke Parks]] that also heavily influenced the genre.<ref name="TrebleEssential" /> According to the High Llamas' [[Sean O'Hagan]], ''Pet Sounds'' had been "the beginning of the great pop experiment. But it wasn't allowed to continue, because rock and roll got hold of the whole thing and stopped it. Pop didn't take off again until this decade [the 1990s]."<ref>{{cite magazine|last1=Smith|first1=Ethan|title=Do It Again|magazine=[[New York Magazine]]|date=November 10, 1997|volume=30|issue=43|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=J-gCAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA98|publisher=New York Media, LLC|issn=0028-7369}}</ref> Author [[Carl Wilson (critic)|Carl Wilson]] (no relation) says that Brian's "pained vulnerability", "uses of offbeat instruments", "intricate harmonies", and "the ''Smile'' saga itself" became a common reference point for chamber pop bands.<ref name=BBCMozart>{{cite web|last1=Wilson|first1=Carl|title=The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson: America's Mozart?|url=http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150608-is-this-americas-mozart|publisher=[[BBC]]|date=June 9, 2015}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|''Smile'', whose recordings remained unreleased for decades, was embraced by the [[alternative rock]] generation once bootlegs from the album became more widespread in the late 1980s and early 1990s.{{sfn|Priore|2005|pp=153–155}} }} Just as ork-pop acts shared a love for Wilson, they also held an admiration for one another's work.<ref name="Rosen1996" /> In the late 1980s, the majority of [[Louis Philippe (musician)|Louis Phillipe]]'s productions for [[él Records]] also made sophisticated use of orchestras and voices that embodied and defined the chamber pop style.<ref name="tango">{{cite web|last1=Marmoro|first1=Gianfranco|title=The Ocean Tango|url=http://www.ondarock.it/recensioni/2010_theoceantango.htm|website=Ondarock|language=it|date=January 12, 2010}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|Philippe described his own music as: "covering the range from pure bubblegum to symphonic sweep, with detours via [[jazz]] and [[soul music|soul]] along the way. A typical album might mix influences from vintage pop, French [[chanson]], [[Ravel]], [[bossa nova]], [[Duke Ellington]], [[the Shirelles]], or the Beach Boys, while classical instruments and intricate backing vocals often feature in the arrangements."<ref name="Louis Philippe">{{cite web|last1=Evans|first1=Christopher|title=Louis Philippe|url=http://www.allmusic.com/artist/louis-philippe-mn0000271979/biography|website=[[AllMusic]]}}</ref>}}
''Newsmakers'' believes that the Beach Boys' ''Pet Sounds'' helped define chamber pop as "intimate, precisely arranged songs with rock's sweep but without its bluesy clamor."<ref name="CollinsInc">{{cite book|last=Collins|first=Louise Mooney|title=Newsmakers|year=1996|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=rEsrIi8InDcC|publisher=Gale Research Inc.|page=122|isbn=9780810393219|access-date=August 27, 2016|archive-date=February 22, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170222230051/https://books.google.com/books?id=rEsrIi8InDcC|url-status=live}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|Writing about the [[Pet Sounds (instrumental)|album's title track]] in his 2017 memoir, Wilson said: "I loved ''[[Thunderball (soundtrack)|Thunderball]]'', which had come out the year before, and I loved listening to composers like Henry Mancini, who did these cool themes for shows like ''[[Peter Gunn]]'', and [[Les Baxter]], who did all these big productions that sounded sort of like Phil Spector productions."{{sfn|Wilson|Greenman|2016|p=179}}}} Following the album was the group's unfinished 1966–67 work ''[[Smile (The Beach Boys album)|Smile]]'', a collaboration between Brian Wilson and lyricist [[Van Dyke Parks]] that also heavily influenced the genre.<ref name="TrebleEssential" /> According to the High Llamas' [[Sean O'Hagan]], ''Pet Sounds'' had been "the beginning of the great pop experiment. But it wasn't allowed to continue, because rock and roll got hold of the whole thing and stopped it. Pop didn't take off again until this decade [the 1990s]."<ref>{{cite magazine|last1=Smith|first1=Ethan|title=Do It Again|magazine=[[New York Magazine]]|date=November 10, 1997|volume=30|issue=43|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=J-gCAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA98|publisher=New York Media, LLC|issn=0028-7369|access-date=April 6, 2017|archive-date=April 7, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170407062718/https://books.google.com/books?id=J-gCAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA98|url-status=live}}</ref> Author [[Carl Wilson (critic)|Carl Wilson]] (no relation) says that Brian's "pained vulnerability", "uses of offbeat instruments", "intricate harmonies", and "the ''Smile'' saga itself" became a common reference point for chamber pop bands.<ref name=BBCMozart>{{cite web|last1=Wilson|first1=Carl|title=The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson: America's Mozart?|url=http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150608-is-this-americas-mozart|publisher=[[BBC]]|date=June 9, 2015|access-date=March 15, 2016|archive-date=June 17, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180617010214/http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150608-is-this-americas-mozart|url-status=live}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|''Smile'', whose recordings remained unreleased for decades, was embraced by the [[alternative rock]] generation once bootlegs from the album became more widespread in the late 1980s and early 1990s.{{sfn|Priore|2005|pp=153–155}} }} Just as ork-pop acts shared a love for Wilson, they also held an admiration for one another's work.<ref name="Rosen1996" /> In the late 1980s, the majority of [[Louis Philippe (musician)|Louis Phillipe]]'s productions for [[él Records]] also made sophisticated use of orchestras and voices that embodied and defined the chamber pop style.<ref name="tango">{{cite web|last1=Marmoro|first1=Gianfranco|title=The Ocean Tango|url=http://www.ondarock.it/recensioni/2010_theoceantango.htm|website=Ondarock|language=it|date=January 12, 2010|access-date=August 13, 2016|archive-date=November 3, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181103091829/http://www.ondarock.it/recensioni/2010_theoceantango.htm|url-status=live}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|Philippe described his own music as: "covering the range from pure bubblegum to symphonic sweep, with detours via [[jazz]] and [[soul music|soul]] along the way. A typical album might mix influences from vintage pop, French [[chanson]], [[Ravel]], [[bossa nova]], [[Duke Ellington]], [[the Shirelles]], or the Beach Boys, while classical instruments and intricate backing vocals often feature in the arrangements."<ref name="Louis Philippe">{{cite web|last1=Evans|first1=Christopher|title=Louis Philippe|url=http://www.allmusic.com/artist/louis-philippe-mn0000271979/biography|website=[[AllMusic]]|access-date=March 14, 2017|archive-date=November 3, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181103131616/https://www.allmusic.com/artist/louis-philippe-mn0000271979/biography|url-status=live}}</ref>}}


Chamber pop was part of a larger trend which involved musicians who rejected traditional rock conventions, such as [[Tortoise (band)|Tortoise]] and [[Stereolab]], although those specific bands are not considered ork-pop.<ref name="Rosen1996"/>{{refn|group=nb|Writing about the new "[[post-rock]]" in 1994, [[Simon Reynolds]] noted the influence of Spector, Wilson, and [[Brian Eno]]; specifically their preoccupation for "soundscaping" that involves "using musicians as a sort of palette of textures, as opposed to the rock band's collective toil."<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Reynolds|first1=Simon|author-link=Simon Reynolds|title=Post-Rock|journal=[[The Wire (magazine)|The Wire]]|date=May 1994|issue=123|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20011202075606/http://www.thewire.co.uk/out/1297_4.htm|archive-date=December 2, 2001|url=http://www.thewire.co.uk/out/1297_4.htm}}</ref>}} The genre's orchestration is typically more complex than rock music,<ref name="TrebleEssential" /> making extensive use of brass and strings.<ref name="am chamberpop" /><ref name="TrebleEssential" /> It drew from the 1990s [[lounge music]] revival but avoided any influence from other contemporary styles like [[grunge]], [[electronica]], or [[alternative music]], particularly the [[lo-fi music|lo-fi]] hiss and distortion of the last.<ref name="am chamberpop" /> Although [[modern rock]] groups like [[Smashing Pumpkins]], [[The Verve]], [[Oasis (band)|Oasis]], and [[R.E.M.]] occasionally used strings, their approach was considerably less intricate.<ref name="Rosen1996"/> The High Llamas were one of the first to anticipate the easy-listening fad with their 1993 debut album ''[[Gideon Gaye]]''.{{sfn|Kamp|Daly|2005|p=52}} O'Hagan felt that "There is this whole misconception that American [[college rock]] with twisted baseball hats and checked shirts is adventurous, but it's the most conformist, corporate thing out there." with [[Eric Matthews (musician)|Eric Matthews]] adding "All these bands sound like [[Nirvana (band)|Nirvana]] and [[Pearl Jam]]. It's a shame that it couldn't be discovered from the get-go for what it is. A lot of it is just very simple dumb-guy rock."<ref name="Rosen1996" />
Chamber pop was part of a larger trend which involved musicians who rejected traditional rock conventions, such as [[Tortoise (band)|Tortoise]] and [[Stereolab]], although those specific bands are not considered ork-pop.<ref name="Rosen1996"/>{{refn|group=nb|Writing about the new "[[post-rock]]" in 1994, [[Simon Reynolds]] noted the influence of Spector, Wilson, and [[Brian Eno]]; specifically their preoccupation for "soundscaping" that involves "using musicians as a sort of palette of textures, as opposed to the rock band's collective toil."<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Reynolds|first1=Simon|author-link=Simon Reynolds|title=Post-Rock|journal=[[The Wire (magazine)|The Wire]]|date=May 1994|issue=123|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20011202075606/http://www.thewire.co.uk/out/1297_4.htm|archive-date=December 2, 2001|url=http://www.thewire.co.uk/out/1297_4.htm}}</ref>}} The genre's orchestration is typically more complex than rock music,<ref name="TrebleEssential" /> making extensive use of brass and strings.<ref name="am chamberpop" /><ref name="TrebleEssential" /> It drew from the 1990s [[lounge music]] revival but avoided any influence from other contemporary styles like [[grunge]], [[electronica]], or [[alternative rock|alternative music]], particularly the [[lo-fi music|lo-fi]] hiss and distortion of the last.<ref name="am chamberpop" /> Although [[modern rock]] groups like [[Smashing Pumpkins]], [[The Verve]], [[Oasis (band)|Oasis]], and [[R.E.M.]] occasionally used strings, their approach was considerably less intricate.<ref name="Rosen1996"/> The High Llamas were one of the first to anticipate the easy-listening fad with their 1993 album ''[[Gideon Gaye]]''.{{sfn|Kamp|Daly|2005|p=52}} O'Hagan felt that "There is this whole misconception that American [[college rock]] with twisted baseball hats and checked shirts is adventurous, but it's the most conformist, corporate thing out there." with [[Eric Matthews (musician)|Eric Matthews]] adding "All these bands sound like [[Nirvana (band)|Nirvana]] and [[Pearl Jam]]. It's a shame that it couldn't be discovered from the get-go for what it is. A lot of it is just very simple dumb-guy rock."<ref name="Rosen1996" />


==Emergence and popularity==
==History==
===Emergence and popularity===
{{See also|Shibuya-kei}}
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|text= Bored by the three-chord simplicity of grunge and neo-punk, a new breed of popsmiths is going back to such inspirations as Brian Wilson, Burt Bacharach, and Phil Spector in the quest for building the perfect orchestrated pop masterpiece.&nbsp;[...] their music offers an alternative for those who have grown tired of distorted guitars and angst-ridden vocals.
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Fisher and Flota trace chamber pop to "at least" the mid 1990s.{{sfn|Flota|Fisher|2013|p=122}} According to Natalie Waliek of music retailer [[Newbury Comics]], the then-"renewed interest in [[psychedelia]]" and the "overlap with the [[cocktail music|cocktail]]/lounge music thing, because that music [also] has orchestrations", likely contributed to the sales of ork-pop albums, but acts were restricted to only a moderate degree of commercial success. The majority of musicians were aged beyond their early 20s, and many struggled to achieve significant retail or radio success compared to modern rock.<ref name="Rosen1996" /> In the past, record companies had helped facilitate large multi-instrumental bands by financing instruments like strings, horns, and keyboards on artists' albums, but this became rarer as time went on.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Wedel|first1=Mark|title=Canasta cares about your ears: Chicago 'ork-pop' band writes songs with listeners in mind|url=http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/09/canasta_cares_about_your_ears.html|work=[[Kalamazoo Gazette]]|date=September 16, 2010}}</ref> Touring with full string and brass ensembles also proved difficult for some, which became another factor that prevented the genre's mainstream success.<ref name="Rosen1996" />
Fisher and Flota trace chamber pop to "at least" the mid 1990s.{{sfn|Flota|Fisher|2013|p=122}} According to Natalie Waliek of music retailer [[Newbury Comics]], the then-"renewed interest in [[psychedelia]]" and the "overlap with the [[cocktail music|cocktail]]/lounge music thing, because that music [also] has orchestrations", likely contributed to the sales of ork-pop albums, but acts were restricted to only a moderate degree of commercial success. The majority of musicians were aged beyond their early 20s, and many struggled to achieve significant retail or radio success compared to modern rock.<ref name="Rosen1996" /> In the past, record companies had helped facilitate large multi-instrumental bands by financing instruments like strings, horns, and keyboards on artists' albums, but this became rarer as time went on.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Wedel|first1=Mark|title=Canasta cares about your ears: Chicago 'ork-pop' band writes songs with listeners in mind|url=http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/09/canasta_cares_about_your_ears.html|work=[[Kalamazoo Gazette]]|date=September 16, 2010|access-date=June 11, 2016|archive-date=August 6, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160806042653/http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/09/canasta_cares_about_your_ears.html|url-status=live}}</ref> Touring with full string and brass ensembles also proved difficult for some, which became another factor that prevented the genre's mainstream success.<ref name="Rosen1996" />


In Japan, a remote parallel was the development of [[Shibuya-kei]], which also revisited the trend of foregrounding instruments like strings and horns in its arrangements.{{sfn|Tonelli|2004|p=3}} The genre was informed by classic Western pop music,<ref name="AMShibuya">{{cite web|author1=Anon.|title=Shibuya-Kei|url=http://www.allmusic.com/style/shibuya-kei-ma0000011840|website=[[AllMusic]]|date=n.d.|access-date=March 14, 2017|archive-date=October 8, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211008214044/https://www.allmusic.com/style/shibuya-kei-ma0000011840|url-status=live}}</ref> especially the orchestral domains occupied by Burt Bacharach, Brian Wilson, Phil Spector, and [[Serge Gainsbourg]].<ref name="Lindsay2016">{{cite web|last1=Lindsay|first1=Cam|title=Return to the Planet of Cornelius|url=https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/return-to-the-planet-of-cornelius|website=[[Vice (magazine)|Vice]]|date=August 4, 2016|access-date=March 14, 2017|archive-date=February 4, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170204171928/https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/return-to-the-planet-of-cornelius|url-status=live}}</ref> Unlike other Japanese music scenes, its audiences did not necessarily cross over into [[anime fandom]]s, but rather [[indie pop]] enthusiasts. This was partly because many of its bands were distributed in the United States through major [[indie label]]s like [[Matador Records|Matador]] and [[Grand Royal Records|Grand Royal]].<ref name="Ohanesian2013">{{cite journal|last1=Ohanesian|first1=Liz|title=Japanese Indie Pop: The Beginner's Guide to Shibuya-Kei|journal=[[LA Weekly]]|date=April 13, 2011|url=http://www.laweekly.com/music/japanese-indie-pop-the-beginners-guide-to-shibuya-kei-2408911|access-date=March 14, 2017|archive-date=August 9, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180809090901/https://www.laweekly.com/music/japanese-indie-pop-the-beginners-guide-to-shibuya-kei-2408911|url-status=live}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|Philippe was surprised to be heralded as the "godfather" of the Shibuya sound around the time he released the Japan-only albums ''Jean Renoir'' (1992) and ''Rainfall'' (1993).<ref name="Louis Philippe"/> The movement's musicians romanticized Wilson as a [[creativity and mental illness|mad genius]] experimenting in the recording studio, and Spector's [[Wall of Sound]] was emulated not for its denseness, but for its elaborate quality.<ref name="Walters">{{cite web|last1=Walters|first1=Barry|title=The Roots of Shibuya-Kei|url=http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2014/11/japan-top-ten-roots-of-shibuya-kei|website=[[Red Bull Music Academy]]|date=November 6, 2014|access-date=March 14, 2017|archive-date=February 5, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170205100558/http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2014/11/japan-top-ten-roots-of-shibuya-kei|url-status=live}}</ref>}} Shibuya-kei ultimately peaked in the late 1990s and declined after its principal players began moving into other music styles.<ref name="Michael2016">{{cite web|last1=Michael|first1=Patrick St.|title=Cornelius: Fantasma Album Review|url=http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21980-fantasma/|website=[[Pitchfork (website)|Pitchfork]]|date=June 11, 2016|access-date=March 14, 2017|archive-date=May 8, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210508173209/https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21980-fantasma/|url-status=live}}</ref>
In Japan, a remote parallel was the development of [[Shibuya-kei]], which also revisited the trend of foregrounding instruments like strings and horns in its arrangements.{{sfn|Tonelli|2004|p=3}} The genre was informed by classic Western pop music,<ref name="AMShibuya">{{cite web|author1=Anon.|title=Shibuya-Kei|url=http://www.allmusic.com/style/shibuya-kei-ma0000011840|website=[[AllMusic]]|date=n.d.}}
</ref> especially the orchestral domains occupied by Burt Bacharach, Brian Wilson, Phil Spector, and [[Serge Gainsbourg]].<ref name="Lindsay2016">{{cite web|last1=Lindsay|first1=Cam|title=Return to the Planet of Cornelius|url=https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/return-to-the-planet-of-cornelius|website=[[Vice (magazine)|Vice]]|date=August 4, 2016}}</ref> Unlike other Japanese music scenes, its audiences did not necessarily cross over into [[anime fandom]]s, but rather [[indie pop]] enthusiasts. This was partly because many of its bands were distributed in the United States through major [[indie label]]s like [[Matador Records|Matador]] and [[Grand Royal Records|Grand Royal]].<ref name="Ohanesian2013">{{cite journal|last1=Ohanesian|first1=Liz|title=Japanese Indie Pop: The Beginner's Guide to Shibuya-Kei|journal=[[LA Weekly]]|date=April 13, 2011|url=http://www.laweekly.com/music/japanese-indie-pop-the-beginners-guide-to-shibuya-kei-2408911}}</ref>{{refn|group=nb|Philippe was surprised to be heralded as the "godfather" of the Shibuya sound around the time he released the Japan-only albums ''Jean Renoir'' (1992) and ''Rainfall'' (1993).<ref name="Louis Philippe">{{cite web|last1=Evans|first1=Christopher|title=Louis Philippe|url=http://www.allmusic.com/artist/louis-philippe-mn0000271979/biography|website=[[AllMusic]]}}</ref> The movement's musicians romanticized Wilson as a [[creativity and mental illness|mad genius]] experimenting in the recording studio, and Spector's [[Wall of Sound]] was emulated not for its denseness, but for its elaborate quality.<ref name="Walters">{{cite web|last1=Walters|first1=Barry|title=The Roots of Shibuya-Kei|url=http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2014/11/japan-top-ten-roots-of-shibuya-kei|website=[[Red Bull Music Academy]]|date=November 6, 2014}}</ref>}} Shibuya-kei ultimately peaked in the late 1990s and declined after its principal players began moving into other music styles.<ref name="Michael2016">{{cite web|last1=Michael|first1=Patrick St.|title=Cornelius: Fantasma Album Review|url=http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21980-fantasma/|website=[[Pitchfork (website)|Pitchfork]]|date=June 11, 2016}}</ref>


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|description=''Billboard''{{'}}s Chris Morris wrote that this debut single by Hayes made "quite a splash with the international press&nbsp;... heralded as the harbinger of a new school of orchestral pop – 'ork pop' for short."<ref name="Morris">{{cite magazine|last=Morris|first=Chris|title=Catalog Specialist Del-Fi Launches New-Music Imprint|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=GwoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA83|date=September 19, 1998|publisher=[[Nielsen Business Media, Inc.]]|magazine=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]|page=83|issn=0006-2510|access-date=August 27, 2016|archive-date=July 27, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200727193329/https://books.google.com/books?id=GwoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA83|url-status=live}}</ref>}}


In a 1996 profile of ork-pop, Craig Rosen lists examples that include Yum-Yum, the High Llamas, [[Richard Davies (musician)|Richard Davies]], [[Eric Matthews (musician)|Eric Matthews]], [[Spookey Ruben]], Witch Hazel, and [[Liam Hayes]] (Plush).<ref name="Rosen1996"/> Matthews, who partnered with Davies for duo [[Cardinal (band)|Cardinal]], was considered a leading figure in ork-pop.<ref name="cardinalmatthews">{{cite magazine|last=Morris|first=Chris|title=Sub Pop Feels the Time Is Right for Eric Matthews|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=3QkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA10|date=August 23, 1997|publisher=Nielsen Business Media, Inc.|magazine=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]|page=10|issn=0006-2510}}</ref> ''[[Popmatters]]''{{'}} Maria Schurr wrote in a retrospective review of Cardinal's [[Cardinal (Cardinal album)|eponymous 1994 debut album]]; "in some circles, [it has] been called the grunge era's answer to ''Pet Sounds'', and, although it has not been as widely cited as the Beach Boys' classic, it has undoubtedly influenced more off balance indie popsters than one may expect."<ref>{{cite magazine|last1=Schurr|first1=Maria|title=Cardinal (reissue)|url=http://www.popmatters.com/review/183675-cardinal-cardinal-reissue/|magazine=[[Popmatters]]|date=July 23, 2014}}</ref> Music journalist [[Jim DeRogatis]] associates the ork-pop and chamber pop movement to bands like Yum-Yum, Cardinal and [[Lambchop (band)|Lambchop]].<ref name="derog2004"/>{{refn|group=nb|In 2004, when asking [[the Decemberists]]' bandleader [[Colin Meloy]] whether he felt a connection with the movement and the band's work, Meloy answered; "I don't know if we've ever been labeled that before. So much attention gets put on the lyrical content—the songs themselves—that people don't pay as close attention to the arrangements, which is something we're trying to change.&nbsp;... I think the orchestral side—the cinematic side of the music—is going to come through more and more."<ref name="derog2004">{{cite news|work=[[Chicago Sun-Times]]|last=DeRogatis|first=Jim|date=June 4, 2004|title=Rock soars to new heights with Decemberists|url=http://www.jimdero.com/News2004/June4Decemberists.htm|author-link=Jim DeRogatis}}</ref>}}
In a 1996 profile of ork-pop, Craig Rosen lists examples that include Yum-Yum, the High Llamas, [[Richard Davies (musician)|Richard Davies]], [[Eric Matthews (musician)|Eric Matthews]], [[Spookey Ruben]], Witch Hazel, and [[Liam Hayes]] (Plush).<ref name="Rosen1996"/> Matthews, who partnered with Davies for duo [[Cardinal (band)|Cardinal]], was considered a leading figure in ork-pop.<ref name="cardinalmatthews">{{cite magazine|last=Morris|first=Chris|title=Sub Pop Feels the Time Is Right for Eric Matthews|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=3QkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA10|date=August 23, 1997|publisher=Nielsen Business Media, Inc.|magazine=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]|page=10|issn=0006-2510|access-date=August 27, 2016|archive-date=July 27, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200727203233/https://books.google.com/books?id=3QkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA10|url-status=live}}</ref> ''[[Popmatters]]''{{'}} Maria Schurr wrote in a retrospective review of Cardinal's [[Cardinal (Cardinal album)|eponymous 1994 debut album]]; "in some circles, [it has] been called the grunge era's answer to ''Pet Sounds'', and, although it has not been as widely cited as the Beach Boys' classic, it has undoubtedly influenced more off balance indie popsters than one may expect."<ref>{{cite magazine|last1=Schurr|first1=Maria|title=Cardinal (reissue)|url=http://www.popmatters.com/review/183675-cardinal-cardinal-reissue/|magazine=[[Popmatters]]|date=July 23, 2014|access-date=May 4, 2016|archive-date=June 17, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160617025225/http://www.popmatters.com/review/183675-cardinal-cardinal-reissue/|url-status=live}}</ref> Music journalist [[Jim DeRogatis]] associates the ork-pop and chamber pop movement to bands like Yum-Yum, Cardinal and [[Lambchop (band)|Lambchop]].<ref name="derog2004"/>{{refn|group=nb|In 2004, when asking [[the Decemberists]]' bandleader [[Colin Meloy]] whether he felt a connection with the movement and the band's work, Meloy answered; "I don't know if we've ever been labeled that before. So much attention gets put on the lyrical content—the songs themselves—that people don't pay as close attention to the arrangements, which is something we're trying to change.&nbsp;... I think the orchestral side—the cinematic side of the music—is going to come through more and more."<ref name="derog2004">{{cite news|work=[[Chicago Sun-Times]]|last=DeRogatis|first=Jim|date=June 4, 2004|title=Rock soars to new heights with Decemberists|url=http://www.jimdero.com/News2004/June4Decemberists.htm|author-link=Jim DeRogatis|access-date=May 3, 2016|archive-date=May 31, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160531014058/http://www.jimdero.com/News2004/June4Decemberists.htm|url-status=live}}</ref>}}


==2000s–present==
===2000s–present===


By 2009, the term "chamber pop" had fallen to general misuse, as songwriter/author [[Scott Miller (pop musician)|Scott Miller]] suggests, it "made more sense applied to the [[Fleet Foxes]] than to other bands I've since seen it applied to".{{sfn|Miller|2010|p=22}} He also noted that ''Pet Sounds'' had become a ubiquitous object of comparison; "[If people] are happy about that, I have to pinch myself and reflect that I'd never thought I'd see the day."{{sfn|Miller|2010|p=22}} ''Treblezine''{{'}}s Brian Roster wrote that [[Grizzly Bear (band)|Grizzly Bear's]] album ''[[Veckatimest]]'' was a "landmark exploration of the changing landscapes of pop in 2009" that represented an attempt to create "a sort of abridged conclusion to chamber pop's earliest days".<ref name="TrebleEssential" />
By 2009, the term "chamber pop" had fallen to general misuse, as songwriter/author [[Scott Miller (pop musician)|Scott Miller]] suggests, it "made more sense applied to the [[Fleet Foxes]] than to other bands I've since seen it applied to".{{sfn|Miller|2010|p=22}} He also noted that ''Pet Sounds'' had become a ubiquitous object of comparison; "[If people] are happy about that, I have to pinch myself and reflect that I'd never thought I'd see the day."{{sfn|Miller|2010|p=22}} ''Treblezine''{{'}}s Brian Roster wrote that [[Grizzly Bear (band)|Grizzly Bear's]] album ''[[Veckatimest]]'' was a "landmark exploration of the changing landscapes of pop in 2009" that represented an attempt to create "a sort of abridged conclusion to chamber pop's earliest days".<ref name="TrebleEssential" />
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Chamber pop (also called baroque pop[7][8] and sometimes conflated with orchestral pop or symphonic pop[1]) is a music genre that combines rock music[1] with the intricate use of strings, horns, piano, and vocal harmonies, and other components drawn from the orchestral and lounge pop of the 1960s, with an emphasis on melody and texture.

During chamber pop's initial emergence in the 1960s, producers such as Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, Burt Bacharach, Lee Hazlewood, and the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson served as formative artists of the genre. Wilson's productions of the Beach Boys' albums Pet Sounds and Smile are cited as particularly influential to the genre. From the early 1970s to early 1990s, most chamber pop acts saw little to no mainstream success. The genre's decline was attributed to costly touring and recording logistics and a reluctance among record labels to finance instruments like strings, horns, and keyboards on artists' albums.

In the mid-1990s, chamber pop developed as a subgenre of indie rock[4] or indie pop[5] in which musicians opposed the distorted guitars, lo-fi aesthetic, and simple arrangements common to the alternative or "modern rock" groups of that era. In Japan, the movement was paralleled by Shibuya-kei, another indie genre that was formed on some of the same bedrock of influences. By the 2000s, the term "chamber pop" would be inconsistently applied to a variety of bands whose work attracted comparisons to Pet Sounds.

Definition and etymology

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The High Llamas performing in 2011 (leader Sean O'Hagan pictured)

The combination of string sections and rock music has been called "symphonic pop", "chamber pop", and orchestral pop (or "ork-pop" for short).[1] The first use of strings in R&B or rock music was in the 1959 song "There Goes My Baby" by The Drifters, produced by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller with string arrangement by Stan Applebaum. The following year, The Shirelles song "Will You Love Me Tomorrow", written by Carole King and featuring a string section, was released to critical acclaim and rose to #1 on the Billboard Magazine Hot 100 chart. The Beatles began implementing string arrangements in their music, starting with the 1965 song "Yesterday," and further expanded upon the use of horns and strings on their 1966 album Revolver.[9] The Beach Boys would develop their response to The Beatles' 1965 album Rubber Soul with their own 1966 studio album Pet Sounds, which would further explore the use of strings in rock music and define the baroque pop genre.

Ork-pop refers to a branch of underground rock musicians who shared an affinity with the Pet Sounds album, such as The High Llamas and bands from the Elephant 6 collective.[10] According to CMJ's David Jerman, the name was the creation of rock critics, "encompassing everyone from fans of the Beach Boys to fans of Bacharach and Mancini".[11] Chamber pop is stylistically diverse.[6] AllMusic states that the genre carries on the "spirit" of the baroque pop of the 1960s,[12] while cultural writers Joseph Fisher and Brian Flota call it the "heir" to baroque pop.[13][nb 1] Strongly influenced by the rich orchestrations of Burt Bacharach, Brian Wilson, and Lee Hazlewood, chamber pop artists once again focused on melody and texture.[3] Another major source of influence was the singer Scott Walker.[6] New York Daily News' Jim Farber summarizes the genre; "think Donovan meets Burt Bacharach".[15][nb 2]

Newsmakers believes that the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds helped define chamber pop as "intimate, precisely arranged songs with rock's sweep but without its bluesy clamor."[19][nb 3] Following the album was the group's unfinished 1966–67 work Smile, a collaboration between Brian Wilson and lyricist Van Dyke Parks that also heavily influenced the genre.[6] According to the High Llamas' Sean O'Hagan, Pet Sounds had been "the beginning of the great pop experiment. But it wasn't allowed to continue, because rock and roll got hold of the whole thing and stopped it. Pop didn't take off again until this decade [the 1990s]."[21] Author Carl Wilson (no relation) says that Brian's "pained vulnerability", "uses of offbeat instruments", "intricate harmonies", and "the Smile saga itself" became a common reference point for chamber pop bands.[22][nb 4] Just as ork-pop acts shared a love for Wilson, they also held an admiration for one another's work.[24] In the late 1980s, the majority of Louis Phillipe's productions for él Records also made sophisticated use of orchestras and voices that embodied and defined the chamber pop style.[25][nb 5]

Chamber pop was part of a larger trend which involved musicians who rejected traditional rock conventions, such as Tortoise and Stereolab, although those specific bands are not considered ork-pop.[24][nb 6] The genre's orchestration is typically more complex than rock music,[6] making extensive use of brass and strings.[3][6] It drew from the 1990s lounge music revival but avoided any influence from other contemporary styles like grunge, electronica, or alternative music, particularly the lo-fi hiss and distortion of the last.[3] Although modern rock groups like Smashing Pumpkins, The Verve, Oasis, and R.E.M. occasionally used strings, their approach was considerably less intricate.[24] The High Llamas were one of the first to anticipate the easy-listening fad with their 1993 album Gideon Gaye.[28] O'Hagan felt that "There is this whole misconception that American college rock with twisted baseball hats and checked shirts is adventurous, but it's the most conformist, corporate thing out there." with Eric Matthews adding "All these bands sound like Nirvana and Pearl Jam. It's a shame that it couldn't be discovered from the get-go for what it is. A lot of it is just very simple dumb-guy rock."[24]

History

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Emergence and popularity

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Bored by the three-chord simplicity of grunge and neo-punk, a new breed of popsmiths is going back to such inspirations as Brian Wilson, Burt Bacharach, and Phil Spector in the quest for building the perfect orchestrated pop masterpiece. [...] their music offers an alternative for those who have grown tired of distorted guitars and angst-ridden vocals.

—Craig Rosen writing in Billboard, 1996[24]

Fisher and Flota trace chamber pop to "at least" the mid 1990s.[13] According to Natalie Waliek of music retailer Newbury Comics, the then-"renewed interest in psychedelia" and the "overlap with the cocktail/lounge music thing, because that music [also] has orchestrations", likely contributed to the sales of ork-pop albums, but acts were restricted to only a moderate degree of commercial success. The majority of musicians were aged beyond their early 20s, and many struggled to achieve significant retail or radio success compared to modern rock.[24] In the past, record companies had helped facilitate large multi-instrumental bands by financing instruments like strings, horns, and keyboards on artists' albums, but this became rarer as time went on.[29] Touring with full string and brass ensembles also proved difficult for some, which became another factor that prevented the genre's mainstream success.[24]

In Japan, a remote parallel was the development of Shibuya-kei, which also revisited the trend of foregrounding instruments like strings and horns in its arrangements.[4] The genre was informed by classic Western pop music,[30] especially the orchestral domains occupied by Burt Bacharach, Brian Wilson, Phil Spector, and Serge Gainsbourg.[31] Unlike other Japanese music scenes, its audiences did not necessarily cross over into anime fandoms, but rather indie pop enthusiasts. This was partly because many of its bands were distributed in the United States through major indie labels like Matador and Grand Royal.[32][nb 7] Shibuya-kei ultimately peaked in the late 1990s and declined after its principal players began moving into other music styles.[34]

In a 1996 profile of ork-pop, Craig Rosen lists examples that include Yum-Yum, the High Llamas, Richard Davies, Eric Matthews, Spookey Ruben, Witch Hazel, and Liam Hayes (Plush).[24] Matthews, who partnered with Davies for duo Cardinal, was considered a leading figure in ork-pop.[36] Popmatters' Maria Schurr wrote in a retrospective review of Cardinal's eponymous 1994 debut album; "in some circles, [it has] been called the grunge era's answer to Pet Sounds, and, although it has not been as widely cited as the Beach Boys' classic, it has undoubtedly influenced more off balance indie popsters than one may expect."[37] Music journalist Jim DeRogatis associates the ork-pop and chamber pop movement to bands like Yum-Yum, Cardinal and Lambchop.[2][nb 8]

2000s–present

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By 2009, the term "chamber pop" had fallen to general misuse, as songwriter/author Scott Miller suggests, it "made more sense applied to the Fleet Foxes than to other bands I've since seen it applied to".[38] He also noted that Pet Sounds had become a ubiquitous object of comparison; "[If people] are happy about that, I have to pinch myself and reflect that I'd never thought I'd see the day."[38] Treblezine's Brian Roster wrote that Grizzly Bear's album Veckatimest was a "landmark exploration of the changing landscapes of pop in 2009" that represented an attempt to create "a sort of abridged conclusion to chamber pop's earliest days".[6]

Notes

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  1. ^ Although baroque pop was prefigured by producers like Phil Spector, whose arrangements were orchestral and heavily layered, the genre was distinguished for its Romantic aesthetic, small string ensembles, and more classically-derived melodies.[14]
  2. ^ Spin magazine refers to Bacharach and Wilson as "gods" of orchestral pop.[16] In journalist Chris Nickson's opinion, the "apex" of orchestral pop lied in Walker, explaining that "in his most fertile period, 1967–70, he created a body of work that was, in its own way, as revolutionary as the Beatles'. He took the ideas of Mancini and Bacharach to their logical conclusion, essentially redefining the concept of orchestral pop."[17]
  3. ^ Writing about the album's title track in his 2017 memoir, Wilson said: "I loved Thunderball, which had come out the year before, and I loved listening to composers like Henry Mancini, who did these cool themes for shows like Peter Gunn, and Les Baxter, who did all these big productions that sounded sort of like Phil Spector productions."[20]
  4. ^ Smile, whose recordings remained unreleased for decades, was embraced by the alternative rock generation once bootlegs from the album became more widespread in the late 1980s and early 1990s.[23]
  5. ^ Philippe described his own music as: "covering the range from pure bubblegum to symphonic sweep, with detours via jazz and soul along the way. A typical album might mix influences from vintage pop, French chanson, Ravel, bossa nova, Duke Ellington, the Shirelles, or the Beach Boys, while classical instruments and intricate backing vocals often feature in the arrangements."[26]
  6. ^ Writing about the new "post-rock" in 1994, Simon Reynolds noted the influence of Spector, Wilson, and Brian Eno; specifically their preoccupation for "soundscaping" that involves "using musicians as a sort of palette of textures, as opposed to the rock band's collective toil."[27]
  7. ^ Philippe was surprised to be heralded as the "godfather" of the Shibuya sound around the time he released the Japan-only albums Jean Renoir (1992) and Rainfall (1993).[26] The movement's musicians romanticized Wilson as a mad genius experimenting in the recording studio, and Spector's Wall of Sound was emulated not for its denseness, but for its elaborate quality.[33]
  8. ^ In 2004, when asking the Decemberists' bandleader Colin Meloy whether he felt a connection with the movement and the band's work, Meloy answered; "I don't know if we've ever been labeled that before. So much attention gets put on the lyrical content—the songs themselves—that people don't pay as close attention to the arrangements, which is something we're trying to change. ... I think the orchestral side—the cinematic side of the music—is going to come through more and more."[2]

Citations

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  1. ^ a b c d e f Salmon, Ben (May 25, 2007). "Classic combo". The Bulletin. Archived from the original on June 10, 2016.
  2. ^ a b c DeRogatis, Jim (June 4, 2004). "Rock soars to new heights with Decemberists". Chicago Sun-Times. Archived from the original on May 31, 2016. Retrieved May 3, 2016.
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  4. ^ a b c d Tonelli 2004, p. 3.
  5. ^ a b "Indie Pop". AllMusic. Archived from the original on July 15, 2016. Retrieved June 24, 2016.
  6. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k Treble staff (September 22, 2016). "10 Essential Chamber Pop Albums". Treblezine. Archived from the original on December 2, 2020. Retrieved November 20, 2016.
  7. ^ Jackson, Andrew Grant (2015). 1965: The Most Revolutionary Year in Music. St. Martin's Publishing Group. p. 22.
  8. ^ Staff. "Chamber Pop Music Guide: 7 Notable Chamber Pop Artists". Masterclass. Retrieved December 5, 2022.
  9. ^ "Guitar World Interviews George Harrison". 1992.
  10. ^ DeRogatis 2003, pp. 39, 95.
  11. ^ Jarman, David (July 1998). "Reviews". CMJ New Music Monthly. CMJ Network, Inc. p. 60. ISSN 1074-6978. Archived from the original on July 27, 2020. Retrieved August 27, 2016.
  12. ^ "Baroque pop". AllMusic. Archived from the original on August 9, 2015. Retrieved March 5, 2016.
  13. ^ a b Flota & Fisher 2013, p. 122.
  14. ^ Janovitz 2013, p. 81.
  15. ^ Farber, Jim (October 12, 2010). "Belle and Sebastian's 'Write About Love' review: Stuart Murdoch and his sound mature". New York Daily News. Archived from the original on October 5, 2016. Retrieved August 20, 2016.
  16. ^ "Reviews". Spin. October 2006. ISSN 0886-3032. Archived from the original on July 4, 2022. Retrieved November 21, 2016.
  17. ^ Nickson, Chris (November 1997). "The Sons of Scott Walker". CMJ New Music Monthly: 20, 22. ISSN 1074-6978. Archived from the original on July 4, 2022. Retrieved November 21, 2016.
  18. ^ Dillon 2012, p. 151.
  19. ^ Collins, Louise Mooney (1996). Newsmakers. Gale Research Inc. p. 122. ISBN 9780810393219. Archived from the original on February 22, 2017. Retrieved August 27, 2016.
  20. ^ Wilson & Greenman 2016, p. 179.
  21. ^ Smith, Ethan (November 10, 1997). "Do It Again". New York Magazine. Vol. 30, no. 43. New York Media, LLC. ISSN 0028-7369. Archived from the original on April 7, 2017. Retrieved April 6, 2017.
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