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This is a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] (RfC) on the use of spoiler tags. This RFC aims to gather community opinion on the [[Wikipedia:Spoiler warning]] guidelines and it's companion templates: {{tl|spoiler}}, {{tl|endspoiler}}, {{tl|spoiler-about}}, {{tl|spoiler-other}}, {{tl|magic-spoiler}}, {{tl|Solution}}, {{tl|Spoiler-solicitation}}.

This is a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] (RfC) on the use of spoiler tags. This RFC aims to gather community opinion on the [[Wikipedia:Spoiler warning]] guidelines and its companion templates: {{tl|spoiler}}, {{tl|endspoiler}}, {{tl|spoiler-about}}, {{tl|spoiler-other}}, {{tl|spoiler-blank}}, {{tl|magic-spoiler}}, {{tl|Solution}}, {{tl|sgspoiler}}, {{tl|Spoiler-season}} and {{tl|Spoiler-solicitation}}.


==Previous discussions==
==Previous discussions==
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===Older discussions===
===Older discussions===
*[[Wikipedia talk:Warn readers about spoilers Archive 1]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Warn readers about spoilers/Archive 1]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Warn readers about spoilers]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Warn readers about spoilers]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Spoiler warning/Archive]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Spoiler warning/Archive]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Spoiler warning/Archive2]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Spoiler warning/Archive2]]
*[[Template talk:Spoiler]]


==Examples of current usage==
==Examples of current usage==
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Beowulf&oldid=64121773 Beowulf]
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Stargate_SG-1&oldid=64086351 Stargate SG-1]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Iron_Chef&oldid=64139318 Iron Chef]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince&oldid=63830780 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince] (contemporary book and upcoming film)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_Breakfast_Club&oldid=63966802 The Breakfast Club]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Beowulf&oldid=64121773 Beowulf] (epic poem)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Citizen_Kane&oldid=64149763 Citizen Kane]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Stargate_SG-1&oldid=64086351 Stargate SG-1] (contemporary TV series)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince&oldid=63830780 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Iron_Chef&oldid=64139318 Iron Chef] (TV series)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jack_O%27Neill&oldid=63781357 Jack O'Neill]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_Breakfast_Club&oldid=63966802 The Breakfast Club] (classic film)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_Matrix&oldid=64115397 The Matrix]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Citizen_Kane&oldid=64149763 Citizen Kane] (classic film)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jack_O%27Neill&oldid=63781357 Jack O'Neill] (fictional character)
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_Matrix&oldid=64115397 The Matrix] (contemporary film)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Three_Billy_Goats_Gruff&oldid=64147124 Three Billy Goats Gruff] (fairy tale)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Beauty_and_the_Beast&oldid=63689807 Beauty and the Beast] (folktale)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Sawing_a_woman_in_half&oldid=62382043 Sawing a woman in half] (magic trick)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Final_Fantasy_VII&oldid=61189486 Final Fantasy VII] (game)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Codename_47&oldid=67988170 Codename 47] (game, usage of both {{tl|spoiler}} and {{tl|Solution}})
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==Arguments for and against==
==Arguments for and against==
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'''For:'''
'''For:'''
*Useful and helpful to editors and readers, aids in article navigation
*Useful and helpful to some editors and readers; can aid in article navigation
*A convention/practice that readers (and prospective future editors) would expect
*Discourages exclusion of spoilers by editors
*Discourages exclusion of spoilers by some editors
*Can be seen as a neutral label such as "Theme" or "Genre"
*Avoids needing to restrict information to specific sections (such as "Plot details")
*Avoids needing to restrict information to specific sections (such as "Plot details")
*Choosing to add the tag or not is similar to other decisions in the editorial process
*Can be seen as a nutural label such as "Plot" or "Theme"
*Are consistent with Wikipedia's mission and policy of being informative




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'''Against:'''
'''Against:'''
*Violation of Wikipedia's "[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view policy]]", or "NPOV"
*An informative section header and Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Content disclaimer|content disclaimer]] are enough
*Violation of Wikipedia's "[[WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_censored|Wikipedia is not censored]]" policy
*Violation of Wikipedia's "[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view policy]]", or "NPOV" which should cover content exclusion and inclusion
*What is or is not a spoiler is subjective
*Violation of Wikipedia's "[[WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not censored|Wikipedia is not censored]]" policy
*Unprofessional and unencyclopedic
*Unprofessional and unencyclopedic
*Organization issue; presents the notion that spoilers must be contained "inside the box" of begin-spoiler and end-spoiler templates

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==RfC discussion==
==RfC discussion==
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Latest revision as of 20:07, 1 June 2007

This is a request for comment (RfC) on the use of spoiler tags. This RFC aims to gather community opinion on the Wikipedia:Spoiler warning guidelines and its companion templates: {{spoiler}}, {{endspoiler}}, {{spoiler-about}}, {{spoiler-other}}, {{spoiler-blank}}, {{magic-spoiler}}, {{Solution}}, {{sgspoiler}}, {{Spoiler-season}} and {{Spoiler-solicitation}}.

Previous discussions

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Older discussions

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Examples of current usage

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Arguments for and against

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This is a very brief summary of the major arguments for and against the use of spoiler tags. Note that this is only intended to be an extremely brief summary, and all substantive reasoning of arguments can be found on this page's discussion page.

RfC discussion

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All new discussion should be directed to this page's discussion page, where arguments and suggested solutions are discussed. Discussion should not be added below.