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'''Upsalum''', or ''Ubsola'', is the name stated as the main cult center of pagan [[Asa]]-faith in ancient [[Scandinavia]] and [[Sweden]], generally translated into modern day language as [[Uppsala]]. This is were the supposed "golden covered temple" should have been located, as described amongst others by [[Adam of Bremen]] and [[Snorri Sturluson]]. |
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The ancient cult- and temple site is generally believed to be located in [[Gamla Uppsala]] ("Old Uppsala", in the county of [[Uppland]], Sweden. An opposing belief however states that the original site for the pagan Asa-temple was not located here, but in the county of [[Västergötland]]. |
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== Uppsala, mythical seat of the Sveas of old Sweden == |
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The common belief today is that the origin of the Sveas as well as the old pagan [[Asa]] cult temple of |
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''Uppsala'' was located in the county of [[Uppland]], Sweden. |
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In the old sagas and documents of northern Europe, |
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the place being the center of the Svea kingdom (Swiorice) is named |
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''Ubsola'', or ''Upsalum''. |
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Furthermore, this was the supposed location for the mighty pagan temple |
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for worshiping the Asa gods. |
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However, this article disclose some interesting points raised in a debate |
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about the possibility of |
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keeping a wider scope for finding the "truth" behind the myths - in |
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essence, whether the original site of the [[Asa]] cult was really Uppsala in |
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Uppland, Sweden, or if Ubsola was located elsewhere. |
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=== The Svealand theory === |
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Whereas there exist several places in Sweden bearing the name |
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'''Uppsala''', |
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the mythic place for the old swedish pagan culture of Asas is mostly |
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believed to have been located in [[Gamla Uppsala]] (Old Uppsala), |
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just outside the modern city of [[Uppsala]]. |
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(<small>Uppsala was former called Östra Aros (East Aros) and this place is |
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in fact |
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historically known from sources older than the ones that identify [[Gamla |
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Uppsala]]).</small>) |
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=== Main arguments for placing Ubsola in Uppland === |
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Generally, this is based upon the following facts: |
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<table border="1" cellpadding="2"> |
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<tr><td>1</td> |
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<td> |
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[[Gamla Uppsala]] holds several mounds, of which the most famous, the |
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three great mounds known as the ''kings mounds'' are visible from far |
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away. These are said to be the mounds of three famous mythological kings, |
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Ane (Aun), his son Egil - also known as Ongentheow and sometimes Angantyr |
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- (father of Ottar and Ale), Adils (Ottars son), living sometimes around |
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450 - 550 A.D. |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>2</td> |
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<td> |
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Also, it is an indisputable fact that the county of [[Uppland]] holds |
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several findings from around the 10th and 11th century A.D. that indicates |
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that a kingdom was ruled from here. |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>3</td> |
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<td> |
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Furthermore, an often named place in the myths and sagas is |
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''[[Fyrisvallarna]]'', supposedly a vast field near the temple site of Uppsala |
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- and the river passing the modern city [[Uppsala]] is in fact called ''[[Fyrisån]]'', the Fyris |
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river.<br> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>4</td> |
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<td> |
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In [[Snorri Sturluson]]'s Heimskringla, the [[Ynglinga saga]] being part |
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of the history of ancient Norwegian kings, the place ''Ubsola'' (Upsalum) |
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is said to be located by the lake Lagen/Logen, which Snorri means should |
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be the lake [[Mälaren]], dividing [[Uppland]] and [[Södermanland]] and hosting the |
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capital of [[Sweden]], [[Stockholm]], at its eastern shores. The ancestor of |
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the Ynglinga family is said to be [[Frey]], the God that came to |
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Scandinavia together with [[Oden]]. When Oden found the place to be, he |
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named that country (or place, castle, town...) ''[[Sigtuna]]''. In the days of |
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Snorri, this town existed (and is archeologically proven to have existed |
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around 1000 A.D.) to the north of [[Mälaren]]. |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>5</td> |
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<td> |
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The same location is pointed out by [[Adam of Bremen]], who was a bishop |
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in Hamburg that wrote the history of the great arch bishop domain of |
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northern Europe, including Scandinavia until Lund was given an arch bishop |
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seat in the 12th century. <small>He, however, did not actually state that |
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the temple was located in ''Uppland''.</small> |
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</td></tr> |
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</table> |
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=== The Götaland theory === |
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An intense opposing interest from mostly non-scholars have long tried to |
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present indications, |
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and evidence, for placing the ancient Ubsola not in Uppland, |
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but in the county of ''[[Västergötland]]''. |
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This theory might, with correspondence to the above used headline, |
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be called <u>the Götaland theory</u>. Historically, stemming from the 19th |
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century, |
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these theories have been referred to as 'Västgötaskolan', ''the school of |
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Västergötland orgins for ancient Sweden''. |
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=== Opposing notes of interest for ''not'' placing Ubsola in Uppland |
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=== |
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Several interesting notes have been raised against the common theory of |
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[[Svealand]] being the ancient home of Sveas and the [[Asa]] cult, e.g. the |
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following: |
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<table border="1" cellpadding="2"> |
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<tr><td>1</td> |
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<td> |
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When the first really determined bishop of old Sweden, bishop Egino of |
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Dalby (county of [[Skåne]], [[Scania]], located just outside |
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[http://www.lund.se Lund]) sets out to destroy the pagan monuments, he |
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goes to [http://www.skara.se Skara] (county of [[Västergötland]], Western |
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Gotaland) and crushes the sculptures of Frey, Oden and Thor. |
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<br><small><b>Why go to Västergötland if the ancient temple was located in |
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Uppsala, Uppland?</b></small> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>2</td> |
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<td> |
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In some ancient sources ([[Gaius Cornelius Tacitus|Tacitus]] |
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[[Germania]]), the tribe or country of '''Suiones''', ''Sveoner'' or Sveas, |
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are said to be living side by side with a different people, the |
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'''Sitones''', who is ruled and governed by women.<br> [[Jordanes]] in his |
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[[The origin and deeds of the Goths]] calls these two tribes ''suehans'' |
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(the Sveas) and ''suetidi''. Near the old town Sigtuna (being most |
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certainly proven to have existed at the time of [[Olof Skotkonung]]) an |
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ancient rune stone have been found, stating the name <u>sithone</u>.<br> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>3</td> |
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<td> |
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The content of the kings mounds have not shown any remains that |
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indicates the burial of great kings. On the contrary, the content of the |
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two outer mounds that have been investigated instead indicates the burial |
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of very prominent <u>''women''</u>. It is shown that the mounds does stem |
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from the period around 500 A.D., but there is actually no evidence found |
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from ancient remains in Gamla Uppsala that verifies the theory of this |
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place being the actual Ubsola mentioned in the old documents(!).<br> |
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<small>The western mound contained an urn with burned ashes from two |
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humans, and some melted golden jewelry, apparently worn by the deseased at |
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the time of cremation. There are no clear evidence of weaponry or the like |
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to suggest a powerful ruler that matches the otherwise given picture of |
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warfare Sveas.</small> <br> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>4</td> |
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<td> |
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The same type of burial customs, the big mounds containing ashes in an urn, |
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is not known in other parts of south and middle [[Sweden]] prior to the |
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big mounds in [[Gamla Uppsala]], but there are in fact the same type of |
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mounds found further to the north, securely dated to the 3rd century A.D. |
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Similar mounds are also dated to 200-300 A.D. in western Norway. This might |
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indicate that the customs of big mounds had come from the north of Sweden |
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to the south, rather than the opposite as could be expected for an |
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expanding tribe of Sveas in [[Uppland]]. In fact, the burial customs could |
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well indicate that they are the remains of the ''Sitones'', perhaps |
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stemming from the bronze age since the burial customs corresponds with |
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those of the ''urn field'' culture in Europe during the younger bronze age |
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and pre-roman iron age. |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>5</td> |
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<td> |
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There is a certain group of women mentioned in ancient sources of |
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Sweden, called '''<u>[[diser]]</u>''', who were believed to be female |
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witches or the like spiritual beings (most likely thought to be human, |
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though). They were part of the ancient world, and were able to interact in |
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human activities, such as battles, but also when children were born. In |
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Uppsala (Östra Aros), a square has been called ''Distingstorget'', the |
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square of thing for Diser. There is also an ancient ceremoni called |
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''Disablot'', when sacrifacies were made at the beginning of winter. There |
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are said to be different kind of 'diser'', basically from different parts |
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of the old country, and possibly these female spritualists were |
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representing another, perhaps older, mythological or religious belief. |
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They are also known to have existed in other parts of the German |
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hemisphere.<br><small><b>Possibly these were the true ancestors of |
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Uppland, later being included or engulfed by the expanding |
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Sweas?</b></small> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>6</td> |
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<td> |
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No remains at all have been found that indicates that there |
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was actually a pagan temple located in Gamla Uppsala. <br>Rather, some |
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supposed pole holes found at the place of the old church in Gamla Uppsala |
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(believed to be the place of the pagan golden temple) has most certainly |
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been used as poles for holding the set when building the old church - |
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there are absolutely no remains of timber found in the holes, and they |
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seem to have been filled up immediatly after the church was built. <br> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>7</td> |
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<td> |
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Also, an 8 m deep well believed to be the ancient [[holy well of Urd]], |
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and Mimer, found on a ledge facing the kings mounds, was during the 1940s |
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proved to be covered with oak tree that were cut down in the 1650s, A.D. |
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<br> |
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<small>(Interestingly enough, this complies with the time of the famous |
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[[Olaus Rudbeckius|Olof Rudbeck]], who in 1678 presented the most |
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"convincing" evidence for Scandinavia, and Uppland, being in fact the lost |
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Atlantis, thus having Scandinavia harboring the whole ancestory of |
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mankind... To say the least, he was eager to present the proud country of |
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Sweden as well as he ever could, to the rest of the world.)</small><br> |
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The well was plugged in during the 1860s, and amazingly - if it actually |
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''was'' the spring of Urd - it was not filled up and destroyed when the |
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bishops during the 1000s and 1100s raided the country hunting for pagan |
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cult objects...<br><small><b>Is it possible that, along time, the theory |
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of Uppsala being located in Uppland has become so monumental that any |
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other alternatives no longer can be sought?</b></small> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>8</td> |
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<td> |
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Another interesting fact is that the river Fyris changed its name during |
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the 17th century, and was former called Salaån <small>(Sala being a small |
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city further to the north of Uppsala)</small>. <br><small><b>The name |
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Fyrisvallarna is not at all known to be located near the city of Uppsala |
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prior to this!</b></small><br> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>9</td> |
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<td> |
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If you were to take [[Snorri]]'s Ynglinga saga literally, when [[Odin]] |
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and his people, the Asas, moved from Fyn and travelled to the new won land |
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somewhere north of here - where is it most likely that they ended |
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up?<br>In Uppland, going first south, east and then north - around the |
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Scandinavian peninsula?<br>Or in Västergötland/Bohuslän, Sweden, or Norway |
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(Oslofjorden)?<br><small><b>Is it possible that there can be traces of |
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immigrating tribes in western Sweden or southern Norway, dated around 50 |
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B.C. to 200 A.D.?</b></small> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>10</td> |
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When [[Oden]] came to the kingdom of [[Gylfe]], he got the land by help |
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of [[Gefjon]], who 'ploughed the land westwards into the sea, leaving a |
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whole in the land that became a sea', and that this land became |
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''Själland'', said to be the increase of Denmark. Furthermore, the myth |
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says that 'bays of Själland lies like capes in the sea'. Even today, any |
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professional would find it hard to fit Själland of Denmark into Mälaren of |
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Sweden.<br>With the lake Vänern, bordering Västergötland, on the other |
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hand, is not at all hard to see the similarites of Själland as being |
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'taken from the land' of Sweden.<br><small><b>How can any bit of land from |
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Mälaren be drawn westwards into the sea - crossing the whole landmasses of |
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Sweden - and become Själland?</b><br>(Naturally, the inclination here is |
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not that the land was actually taken from Sweden to form Själland - but |
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rather that the land the invaders/immigrants accomplished was exchanged |
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for Själland)</small><br> |
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According to [[Jordanes]], the danes expanded - or where forced - southwards, |
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in turn forcing the [[Heruliis]] (a German tribe, thought to be located at Själland |
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around the first century A.D.) to emigrate southwards. |
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<tr><td>11</td> |
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Written in english, the name Logen/Lagen for the great sea in Snorri's |
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sagas is very easily deducted to be just that, not a name of a special |
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lake, but the only real notion needed; it is ''the'' lake - the greatest |
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of them all, Vänern. <br><small><b>Is it possible that Snorre got the name |
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Mälaren to mean Logen due to the fact that Sigtuna, and Birka, was located |
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here...?</b></small> |
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</td></tr> |
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<tr><td>12</td> |
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<td> |
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In the recapitulation of Adam of Bremen (<small>who, accidentally, never |
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visited Sweden himself</small>), the pagan temple is said to placed 'in front of a |
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large, horse shoe shaped hill', forming what is best described as a large |
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theater scene, with the temple being set as the stage for the public to |
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attend the ceremonies.<br><small><b>There is absolutely no such physical |
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surroundings near Gamla Uppsala!</b></small> |
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</table> |
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So, if Uppland is not the place of origin for the Sveas - where is it to be found? <br> |
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The original advocateours for 'the Götaland theory' (out of which the very thorough |
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<u>[[Carl-Otto Fast]]</u> can be mentioned - the one that forced the proof of the well in |
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Gamla Uppsala to be disclosed) is willing to seek evidence for Västergötland, and the lake |
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[[Vänern|Väner]] region in particular, to be the origin of both the different people called Sweas, Danes and |
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Goths/Geats/Götar, and furthermore the location of all ancient myths, including [[Oden]]'s [[Sigtuna]], |
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[[Valhall]], the ashtree [[Yggdrasil]] etc. and myths of e.g. [[Helge Hundingsbane]] and |
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[[Sigurd Fafnersbane]]. |
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== Conclusions == |
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Naturally, to hold any view at all regarding the existence, first, and the |
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location, second, of these ancient places of cult and religion, one have to be very well read of the actual historical sources, and of the findings in archelogical and linguistical science being conducted over the years. |
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From a scientific viewpoint, the content of old myths and sagas cannot be |
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held as historically valid sources. For one thing, they are written down |
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centuries after they are supposed to have happened, following oral |
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traditions that at best have added some flavour to the original tales - if |
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there are any real matter to them at all. More often, the tales have lend |
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from one another and the final versions are likely to contain additions |
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that can only render them untrustworthy as historical sources. They can, |
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however, disclose elements that have bearing and references in known and |
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alleged sources from other parts of [[Europe]], and hence some traces of the |
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original (again, if ever existed) deeds and people may be identified from |
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them. |
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Especially, the story of [[Odin]] and the [[Asa]]s emigration according to Yngliga |
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saga is generally considered non valid by the offical views and scholars. |
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Other parts of the extensive work of [[Snorri Sturluson|Snorri]] (and other saga writers) may |
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however be considered valid references for finding elements of the ancient |
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history of [[Scandinavia]]n people and their religious customs and beliefs. |
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=== The importance of keeping an objective view === |
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To find any 'real' truth in historical myths and sagas, you are bound to |
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have to take into account |
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''all'' possible aspects of science, not just the religious, historical, |
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archeological and linguistic scholar domains. |
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It have to be put together, and viewed objectively. In this, also |
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geographical and natural sciences should be taken into account. |
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The inclination of this, of course, is that the myths and sagas and |
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historical sources must be considered |
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to have actual geographical bearing also for studying our ancient history. |
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Another example of the importance to do this, is the admirable, now late, |
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[[Thor Heyerdahl]]. |
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Being non-historian, but a biologist, he has driven hypothesis to the |
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limit in a vast number of areas, |
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where the scholars of those affected disciplines have consequently |
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ignored, and ridiculed, his hypothesis. |
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Where different discipline scholars have been mostly concerned by their |
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own field of expertise, |
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Heyerdahl has found new approaches to solutions from simply combining |
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knowledge from different scientific disciplines, |
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and put them together as a whole.<br> |
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His last project was aiming at finding out whether [[Snorri Sturluson|Snorri]] |
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actually could |
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be trusted when he states in [[Ynglinga saga]] that [[Odin]] and the |
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[[Asa]]s actually had emigrated from the [[Black Sea]] around the 60 B.C. |
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Read about it [[Jakten på Odin|here]]. |
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=== Offical view on the location of Ubsola, ancient Uppsala === |
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Not much attention have been paid from the scholars as to whether there |
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could be any bearing in the reflections made and the arguments raised by |
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the Götaland theory. There are as of today very little archeological findings |
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to support the idea that [[Västergötland]] should hold the original site |
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of Ubsola.<br> |
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Never the less, it remains a fact that very little evidence exists for |
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Uppsala, Uppland to be the actual location for the original site of Asa faith |
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ceremonies, prior to the second millennium A.D. |
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It is quite clear, however, that from 700 A.D. and mainly 800 - 900 A.D. the town of [[Birka]] was surrounded by a strong settlement of viking era Sveas. The big question is whether they originated in [[Uppland]], or if they originated in the oldest agricultural areas in [[Sweden]], the [Vänern Väner] area in [[Västergötland]]. As of today, the offical view stands unchanged: |
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Ubsola was located in [[Uppland]]. |
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=== External links: === |
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:Tourist information [http://res.till.uppland.nu/turist/action.lasso?-database=Turist&-layout=weblayoutAlla&-response=eng_turistlayout1.lasso&-recordID=33399&-search Gamla Uppsala]. |
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:The city of [http://www.uppsala.se Uppsala]. |
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