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Welcome!

Hello, Joe Patent, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Vega

Hi Joe, I saw your comments from December about the Vega. Did you ever read DeLorean's book? He has some interesting stuff to say about why the Vega was such a failure and why that kind of thing keeps on happening with GM (even to this day). Why anyone thought an aluminum block-iron head engine would be reliable is beyond me. Burpelson AFB (talk) 04:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shine

Hi Joe - I agree with your opinion about the Shine movie page. I made some edits, please feel free to do more if you want. Also please keep an eye on the page because as you point out we could be in for a fight. Zargulon (talk) 13:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Vega ==
-::Joe-I assure you, I'm no insider. I have owned over 20 Vegas since 1977 and have a large archive of information from the beginning, and I think I know enough about the car than someone who has owned one or two with no archives. Since about 2,000,000 were made at the rate of 100 or more per hour, the Vega was not a consistent car due to this high build rate and unfinished development. Some owners experienced a trouble free car.. the ones who usually quite careful with their attention to fluid levels. Some experienced nothing but problems. Development went on throughout the cars life-span. This is noted in the reviews. The article touches on this in the intro, and in a full section near the end. In 35+ years it was time for a neutral history. The article does just that where all of the retrospective internet articles make statements and claims without references. Every bit of info in this article is referenced. To list all the negative opinion articles on the net does not give a neutral history...just a biased view. 1968-1970 section was provided by the Vega Factory Coordinator. All reviews are referenced by publications who actually tested the car. Current reviews are based on what? All of the Vega's problems are outlined in the Criticism section and what was done to correct them. There might have been more Vega owners who had good luck than bad although I have no statistics and make no claims nor do I express ANY opinions in the article although most other articles assume all Vega engines and fenders went bad. We will never know how many engines and fenders were replaced under warranty. I state that engine damage was common (under-development) and what Chevrolet did. Same for the rust issues (cost related) Its all explained, and what was done over the seven years. That's enough. The article is neutral. As far as your link above..The writer is probably frustrated by the neutrality of this article which I'm sure he has read. I'm starting to see bits of this article in other (updated) articles. He just needs to state his OPINION which isn't allowed here. Regards.([[User:Vegavairbob|Vegavairbob]] ([[User talk:Vegavairbob|talk]]) 10:13, 10 December 2009 (UTC))([[User:Vegavairbob|Vegavairbob]] ([[User talk:Vegavairbob|talk]]) 09:33, 10 December 2009 (UTC))
+Hi Joe, I saw your comments from December about the Vega. Did you ever read DeLorean's book? He has some interesting stuff to say about why the Vega was such a failure and why that kind of thing keeps on happening with GM (even to this day). Why anyone thought an aluminum block-iron head engine would be reliable is beyond me. [[User:Burpelson AFB|Burpelson AFB]] ([[User talk:Burpelson AFB|talk]]) 04:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
+== Shine ==
+Hi Joe - I agree with your opinion about the Shine movie page. I made some edits, please feel free to do more if you want. Also please keep an eye on the page because as you point out we could be in for a fight. [[User:Zargulon|Zargulon]] ([[User talk:Zargulon|talk]]) 13:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)