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'''Delete'''. Likely hoax as Google shows 21 results for the term "Repives" (and no, I didn't mean "Recipes"). Speedy tag removed several times. <font color="DarkGray">...</font> [[User:discospinster|<font color="DarkOrange">'''disco'''</font><font color="DarkOliveGreen">'''spinster'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:discospinster|'''<font color="DarkGray">talk</font>''']]</sub> 00:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*<s>'''Keep and Clean up'''. The Google search shows a lot of confusion about the thing, so if is real, then Wikipedia should be an ideal source of information on the matter. --[[User:ArrEmmDee|ArrEmmDee]] 00:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)]]</s> |
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The result was ''early close and '''delete''' per unanimous consensus by serious editors that this is a hoax. ''[[User:Sandstein|Sandstein]] 18:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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um my grandmother was seriously killed by one. |
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just because they're rare doesn't mean they don't exist.<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:LionInACar|LionInACar]] ([[User talk:LionInACar|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LionInACar|contribs]]) 00:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)</small> {{spa|LionInACar}} |
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**If you can show us some herpetology data that it is indeed a bona fide snake and not a pokemon, then we have a keeper. A site on raresnakes.tk is not such data. --[[User:Dennisthe2|'''<span style="background:Orange;color:Black">Dennis The Tiger</span>''']] ([[User talk:Dennisthe2|Rawr]] and [[Special:Contributions/Dennisthe2|stuff]]) 02:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep and clean up'''. I've studied this for a while, and yes they ARE real, however they are very rare. I think it would be wise to keep this article.<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/75.117.248.88|75.117.248.88]] ([[User talk:75.117.248.88|talk]]) 00:30, 10 April 2007</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> |
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*'''Keep and Clean up'''. I BUY SAUSAGE {{unsignedIP|76.102.210.123}} |
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*'''Delete'''. previous three comments likely sock puppets, another comment from a recent editor of the [[seviper]] page. No mention of revipes on any of the search engines or any of the reference books I have. I'm always willing to learn though, find me a reference from a reputable source. [[User:SallyBoseman|SallyBoseman]] 00:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*<s>'''Delete''', (edit conflict), per SallyBoseman. <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 12pt">[[User:Cremepuff222|<font color="008000">--Cremepuff222</font>]] ([[User talk:Cremepuff222|<font color="2F4F4F">talk</font>]], [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Cremepuff222|<font color="2F4F4F">review me!</font>]]) </span> 00:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC</s> (see below) |
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*'''Comment'''. I don't take well to being called a sock puppet. --[[User:ArrEmmDee|ArrEmmDee]] 00:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:*(another edit conflict) Sorry, ArrEmmDee. I did a google search just now [http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&gbv=2&safe=off&q=Repives+%2Bsnake&btnG=Search], and there seems to be some evidence of it being a snake, but most of it is just stuff on Pokemon. I'm just gonna back out from this one, no need to hurt anymore feelings... <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 12pt">[[User:Cremepuff222|<font color="008000">--Cremepuff222</font>]] ([[User talk:Cremepuff222|<font color="2F4F4F">talk</font>]], [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Cremepuff222|<font color="2F4F4F">review me!</font>]]) </span> 00:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' Are you kidding? What is the point of making a fake page about a snake? I for one am not a 'sock puppet'. --[[User:75.117.248.88|75.117.248.88]] 00:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**Well, one reason to create a fake page about a snake would be that the creator of the page wanted to attempt to fool the deletion proponents into thinking that this was a real snake and not just somebody's imagination getting overactive. --[[User:Dennisthe2|'''<span style="background:Orange;color:Black">Dennis The Tiger</span>''']] ([[User talk:Dennisthe2|Rawr]] and [[Special:Contributions/Dennisthe2|stuff]]) 03:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - unsourced, fails [[WP:ATT]]. If it's a real animal, then there's surely some [[WP:RS]] that would support this. --[[User:Haemo|Haemo]] 01:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. Evidently it's a hoax. [[User:SallyBoseman|SallyBoseman]] should find a more effective way of deletion page discussions though, instead of throwing out wild accusations. --[[User:ArrEmmDee|ArrEmmDee]] 01:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - Obvious hoax. But either way, if it can't be sourced, we can't have a proper article on it. [[User:Danski14|Danski14]]<sup>[[User talk:Danski14|(talk)]]</sup> 01:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Sauce''' - http://www.raresnakes.tk <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:75.117.248.88|75.117.248.88]] ([[User talk:75.117.248.88|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/75.117.248.88|contribs]]){{#if:01:19, 10 April 2007| 01:19, 10 April 2007|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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*'''Strong delete''' as hoax. Note that "repives" is simply an [[anagram]] of [[seviper]] - a pokemon that matches the description almost to the letter at the time of my !vote. Google search turns up that this is probably just another pokemon - I suspect vandalism accordingly and will investigate. Only evidence to existence (above) is a page with little to no content that shows any existence of this as a bona fide snake, reptile, or pretty much anything that exists outside of the imaginations of some editors. Anecdotal evidence (something about one killing his grandmother) is not concrete. Conclusion: the article is complete [[WP:BOLLOCKS|balls]] that was [[WP:NFT|made up in school one day]]. --[[User:Dennisthe2|'''<span style="background:Orange;color:Black">Dennis The Tiger</span>''']] ([[User talk:Dennisthe2|Rawr]] and [[Special:Contributions/Dennisthe2|stuff]]) 01:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**'''Addendum''' - [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Repives&oldid=121555366 this edit] includes a picture that is currently in [[seviper]]. Definitely a [[WP:HOAX|hoax]]. --[[User:Dennisthe2|'''<span style="background:Orange;color:Black">Dennis The Tiger</span>''']] ([[User talk:Dennisthe2|Rawr]] and [[Special:Contributions/Dennisthe2|stuff]]) 01:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''' as unreferenced and likely hoax. <span class="user-sig user-Resurgent insurgent"><i>—[[User:Resurgent insurgent|Resurgent insurgent]] <small>[[2007-04-10]] 02:11[[ISO 8601|Z]]</small></i></span> |
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*'''Delete''' Hoax. To 75.117.248.88 with the "source" above. Thanks for pointing out that saucy little site. It was created [http://www.freewebs.com/snakesfan/oak.htm today], has a nice [http://www.freewebs.com/snakesfan/guestbook.htm message] of support from [[David Hayter]], a voice over actor (featured in the Repives article and is known as "Solid or Naked Snake"), who provided the voice for [[Solid Snake]]. But the best thing was the fact that the bit on the "Tasmanian Tiger Snake" at www.raresnakes.tk/ was copied from [http://www.parks.tas.gov.au/wildlife/reptile/tigr.html Parks and Wildlife Services - Tasmania] and it appeared almost word for word as a copyvio in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Notechis&diff=121591822&oldid=118816899 Notechis]. The "Louisiana Pine Snake" is copied from [http://www.srs.fs.usda.gov/newsroom/newsrelease/2004/nr_2004-04-30-pinesnakes.htm United States Department of Agriculture - Forest Service]. It's been a while since I saw a fake web site created to try and back up a bunch of nonsense like this. 03:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|(Talk)]] |
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**'''Comment''' Why did you even bother to look up the sources on those? --[[User:ArrEmmDee|ArrEmmDee]] 04:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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***Four words: drive the point home. =^_^= --[[User:Dennisthe2|'''<span style="background:Orange;color:Black">Dennis The Tiger</span>''']] ([[User talk:Dennisthe2|Rawr]] and [[Special:Contributions/Dennisthe2|stuff]]) 04:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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****Partly but it's also [[WP:AGF]]. There are a lot of things in the world that I know nothing about and the few minutes it takes to check that link out might pay off. And guess what, it did, I removed a copyright violation from Wikipedia. People who go to all the work of creating a hoax like this need to have the point driven home that we know it's a hoax. If you don't they just will not stop with their comments about how real it is and follow up with other actions to prove it ([[WP:BEANS]]). [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|(Talk)]] 14:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*****Wow, man. That's freakin' sad. Makin' a website ''just'' to back up some BS??? Wow, people can really be sad sometimes. ♣ [[User:Klptyzm|<font color="blue">'''Klptyzm'''</font>]] <sup><font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Klptyzm|Chat wit' me]]</font> '''§''' <font color="FF1234">[[Special:Contributions/Klptyzm|Contributions]]</font></sup> ♣ 18:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* '''Strong delete''' per nom. [[User:Thewinchester|Thewinchester]] [[User_talk:Thewinchester|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 07:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong delete''' If this was a real snake, however rare it might be, it would be on google all over the place. (edit following) Re-reading the article, it lists [[David Hayter]] as a [[Herpetologist]] with a nickname of "Solid Snake". In reality David Hayter is a voice actor who lends his voice to the character Solid Snake in the [[Metal Gear (series)]]. Absolutely 100% hoax, and reaffirm '''VERY Strong delete''' [[User:Sumnjim|<b><FONT COLOR="#151B8D">J</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2B60DE">A</FONT><FONT COLOR="#3BB9FF">M</FONT><FONT COLOR="#3EA99F">D</FONT><FONT COLOR="#4AA02C">A</FONT><FONT COLOR="#347235">W</FONT><FONT COLOR="#254117">G</FONT></b> |
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]] 12:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC) <sup>[[User_talk:sumnjim|talk with me]]·[[Special:contributions/sumnjim|changes]]</sup> |
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*'''Strong Keep''', but perhaps clarify and cite more references. --[[User:Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend?|Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend?]] 16:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**Please let us know how you cite something that does not exist. [[User:Sumnjim|<b><FONT COLOR="#151B8D">J</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2B60DE">A</FONT><FONT COLOR="#3BB9FF">M</FONT><FONT COLOR="#3EA99F">D</FONT><FONT COLOR="#4AA02C">A</FONT><FONT COLOR="#347235">W</FONT><FONT COLOR="#254117">G</FONT></b> |
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]] 16:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC) <sup>[[User_talk:sumnjim|talk with me]]·[[Special:contributions/sumnjim|changes]]</sup> |
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*:<small>{{user|Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend?}} just opined "strong keep" in 27 AFD discussions over a period of 35 minutes, several times with clearly disruptive rationales. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] 16:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Delete''' as hoax. —[[User:Disavian|Disavian]] ([[User talk:Disavian|<sup>talk</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Disavian|<sub>contribs</sub>]]) 16:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' a hoax article. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 17:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Speedy delete''', hoax. Repives is [[Seviper]] backwards, this is just a made-up article by some Pokemon fans. -[[User:Seinfreak37|Seinfreak37]] 17:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Ssssss-trongest Po-Sssssss-ible Delete''' for being utter [[WP:Complete Bollocks]]. Actually, there was an afd recently for a hoax that had an external site backing it up see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hurley-Pugh [[User:Eddie.willers|Eddie.willers]] |
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*'''Delete''' as likely hoax per Sumnjim. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] 21:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' It exists. You just like stroking your e-peens by destroying the Wiki for a perfectly real animal. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/66.189.42.17|66.189.42.17]] ([[User talk:66.189.42.17|talk]]) 22:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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**So where are the herpetological studies on this snake? Where are the photos or specimens? Why has nothing been shown in the way of pictures other than the image of the [[seviper]] pokemon? Where is your evidence that this is real? --[[User:Dennisthe2|'''<span style="background:Orange;color:Black">Dennis The Tiger</span>''']] ([[User talk:Dennisthe2|Rawr]] and [[Special:Contributions/Dennisthe2|stuff]]) 22:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong Delete and Salt'''. I'm really trying to assume good faith, I really am, but I'm beginning to wonder if someone's just got a wee bit too much invested in pulling one over on us. [[WP:POINT]] comes to mind, I'm afraid to say. --[[User:Charlene.fic|<font color="blue" face="Matisse ITC">Charlene</font>]] 02:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**Sure is starting to look like it, Charlene. '''Salt''' as well but keep in mind [[WP:BEANS]]. --[[User:Dennisthe2|'''<span style="background:Orange;color:Black">Dennis The Tiger</span>''']] ([[User talk:Dennisthe2|Rawr]] and [[Special:Contributions/Dennisthe2|stuff]]) 03:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong Delete''' Basically, bullshit. ♣ [[User:Klptyzm|<font color="blue">'''Klptyzm'''</font>]] <sup><font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Klptyzm|Chat wit' me]]</font> '''§''' <font color="FF1234">[[Special:Contributions/Klptyzm|Contributions]]</font></sup> ♣ 03:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' per the impressive research by CambridgeBayWeather. Of course, if the guys behind this keep at it, they might be able to turn it into a notable Internet hoax, in which case, it would deserve an article ''as a hoax''. But it's not a notable hoax ''yet'', and, thanks to vigilant people like CambridgeBayWeather, they'll have to make it notable without the aid of Wikipedia. [[User:Xtifr|Xtifr]] <sub>[[User talk:Xtifr|tälk]]</sub> 07:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong Keep and Clean Up''' The rare creature exists, but there isn't much info on it as it is rare. There are no pictures of it as of yet because they're so hard to capture in film. Saying it doesn't exist because you haven't seen one is like saying a dog doesn't exist because you've never seen one. Insolent and naive. |
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*'''Speedy Delete''' Obvious hoax with subtle troll memes and an earthy finish. --[[User:Afed|Afed]] 18:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC) |