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[[Image:Information.svg|25px|link=]] Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to [[Wikipedia:Talk page|talk pages]] and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should [[Wikipedia:Signatures|sign your posts]] by typing four [[tilde]]s ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button [[File:Insert-signature.png|link=Wikipedia:How to sign your posts]] located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-tilde --> --[[User:SineBot|SineBot]] ([[User talk:SineBot|talk]]) 12:23, 25 August 2011 (UTC) |
[[Image:Information.svg|25px|link=]] Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to [[Wikipedia:Talk page|talk pages]] and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should [[Wikipedia:Signatures|sign your posts]] by typing four [[tilde]]s ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button [[File:Insert-signature.png|link=Wikipedia:How to sign your posts]] located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-tilde --> --[[User:SineBot|SineBot]] ([[User talk:SineBot|talk]]) 12:23, 25 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== ANI == |
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Hello. There is an incident where you have been involved in- see [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents]].[[User:DÜNGÁNÈ|DÜNGÁNÈ]] ([[User talk:DÜNGÁNÈ|talk]]) 18:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC) |
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calm down on the caps.(all capital letters are discouraged at ANI since it resembles shouting) And also choice of vocabulary can be significant, since some may interpret "mediocrity" as an attack on the subject, its better to use words like "unimportant", or "little known", since some editors will use that as an excuse to impose blocks.[[User:DÜNGÁNÈ|DÜNGÁNÈ]] ([[User talk:DÜNGÁNÈ|talk]]) 22:51, 25 August 2011 (UTC) |
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I am on your side and agree about Ricardo Duchense's article, but we may all get blocked if admins perceive any editor to be engaged in personal attacks. If you keep your cool then you will see this through, if all capital letters are used and attacks are thrown around, admins will get tired of reading the massive blocks of texts and block us all (GPM and us). I've seen this happen before.[[User:DÜNGÁNÈ|DÜNGÁNÈ]] ([[User talk:DÜNGÁNÈ|talk]]) 00:12, 26 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::Okay, thanks for the advice. I'm new to all this, so this is very good to know.--[[User:BlueonGray|BlueonGray]] ([[User talk:BlueonGray#top|talk]]) 00:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]] == |
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Hi. I would request you to say for the record whether you have a conflict of interest in the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ricardo Duchesne|AfD]] on [[Ricardo Duchesne]] per [[WP:COI]]. Background information with relevant links for third-party users can be found [[User talk:BlueonGray#WP:Battleground|here]]. Regards [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 13:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Sure! No, I do not have a conflict of interest. But, I did want to ask you about these [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ricardo Duchesne#Conflict of Interest|revelations]]. Can you declare whether you have a conflict of interest in the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ricardo Duchesne|AfD]] for [[Ricardo Duchesne]] in light of these revelations?--[[User:BlueonGray|BlueonGray]] ([[User talk:BlueonGray#top|talk]]) 16:08, 26 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Good to know. May become relevant at a later date. No, I don't have no conflict of interest, either. Not a trace element of it. No idea what "relevantions" you are talking about. [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 21:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::A few questions for you: How do you know that Duchesne was born in Puerto Rico? How do you know when he was promoted to full professor? How do you know that he is on the doctoral selection committee for SSHRC? Is this information publicly available? Please do state how you were able to gather this information.--[[User:BlueonGray|BlueonGray]] ([[User talk:BlueonGray#top|talk]]) 21:14, 28 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::A few questions for you: Are you identical with the [http://www.universityaffairs.ca/a-response-to-racism-in-the-academy.aspx BlueonGray who debated - rather agressively - Ricardo Duchesne]? Are you are incidentally an academic from Canada, possibly one with a multicultural teaching and research agenda? Please answer these questions to allow us to determine whether you have a COI or not. Answer these, and I will glady answer you questions. [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 22:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::You asked me above if I have a conflict of interest as per [[WP:COI]] and I stated quite explicitly that I do not. Nothing has changed between then and now. Now, kindly explain how exactly you know Duchesne's birthplace, the year in which he was promoted to full professor, and his membership on the doctoral selection committee for SSHRC. I was unable to locate any of this information online.--[[User:BlueonGray|BlueonGray]] ([[User talk:BlueonGray#top|talk]]) 22:36, 28 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::I stated the very same explicitly and nothing has changed between then and now. But you certainly understand that COI cannot be solely determined by assertions, but just as much by evidence, so how do explain two BlueOnGray having a go at Duchesne within a week? I mean, if this BlueonGray in the Canadian forum with foam before his mouth is not identical with you, then you can certainly offer at least your personal opinion on the great coincidence of having the two of you the same name and the same target? Huge coincidence considering that Google only has 280 hits for "BlueonGray", most of it dead hits or incoherent gibberish (including these comments in the forum, I guess). [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 22:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::I didn't ask you, in my last couple of comments, to state if you had a conflict of interest. I asked you how you were able to obtain information about Duchesne that isn't publicly available. You see, there is no evidence of any breach on my part; just speculation on yours. However, we do have prima facie evidence that you posted information about Duchesne that isn't publicly available. If you cannot furnish your sources, then it would seem that you are, in fact, in violation of [[WP:COI]]. If you cannot produce those sources, then I will initiate a discussion at [[WP:COIN]]. This is your last chance.--[[User:BlueonGray|BlueonGray]] ([[User talk:BlueonGray#top|talk]]) 00:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC) |
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Let's briefly summarize: I have stated that I have no COI, and so you have. I have categorically stated that I am not Ricardo Duchesne (and I do this again), but you have refused to say whether you are this BlueonGray on the Canadian forum or not. Don't you think that your refusal to do has made our discssion a bit asymmetric? You write on your WP page that you have joined for contributing to integrity, so why don't you start showing a bit of it yourself and demonstrate that you are able to answer a simple question with yes or no. [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 01:03, 29 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::Very well, then. You've been warned.--[[User:BlueonGray|BlueonGray]] ([[User talk:BlueonGray#top|talk]]) 01:35, 29 August 2011 (UTC) |
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=== Possible COI: BlueonGray === |
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The only possible COI I can see is this: |
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#03-01-2011: Ricardo Duchesne (RD) writes an [http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/01/03/ricardo-duchesne-progressives-are-running-the-universities/ article about the "racism industry" of Canada's academia] in a national newspaper |
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#12-02-2011 5:28 PM: On a [http://www.universityaffairs.ca/a-response-to-racism-in-the-academy.aspx comments page] a user named "Blue on Gray" gets pretty agitated about Duchesne article. Quotes: |
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::''For the record, if anyone is turned off by Western civilization, it is because of the arrogance and tastelessness of its self-appointed representatives like Ricardo Duchesne.'' (Feb 12, 2011 5:28 PM) |
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::''And, why not do this all *without* the resentment and foaming at the mouth? That would be a genuinely interesting research project. For that, of course, you would actually need to think and speak like a mature, civil, and intellectually responsible social scientist.'' (Apr 24, 2011 10:55 PM) |
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#21-02-2011: [http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=BlueonGray&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia BlueonGray] registered on Wikipedia and... |
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#became until August 2011 a [[WP:single-purpose account]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=BlueonGray 1]) only devoted |
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#...to vandalize the article on RD repeatedly: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ricardo_Duchesne&action=historysubmit&diff=415223461&oldid=413731845 1], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ricardo_Duchesne&action=historysubmit&diff=419413199&oldid=417649430 2] and... |
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#...initiated [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ricardo_Duchesne two AfDs] misusing WP as his personal [[WP:Battleground|battleground]] and... |
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#[[User talk:BlueonGray#Wikipedia:Conflict of interest|refuses to answer a simple question]] whether he is identical with this BlueonGray even though I was gracious enough to tell him that I am '''not''' RD (I ''am'' not)... |
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So, if someone misuses WP as a platform for his/her personal antipathy, then it is BlueonGray who comes here to wage his personal crusade. I am concerned that [[User:BlueonGray]] may have an undisclosed connection to one of the Canadian academics mentioned less flatteringly in RD's article. [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 22:32, 29 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::You're repeating yourself. I will, too: if you are accusing me of a COI, please make that explicit and start an investigation. I will happily cooperate. Thank you.--[[User:BlueonGray|BlueonGray]] ([[User talk:BlueonGray#top|talk]]) 22:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::But you know that there is already an investigation on you at [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard]], where you are, however, still not cooperating, much less happily so. Regards [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 22:38, 29 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::No, there is no investigation about me at [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard]]. However, you are encouraged to initiate one if you suspect me of a COI.--[[User:BlueonGray|BlueonGray]] ([[User talk:BlueonGray#top|talk]]) 22:42, 29 August 2011 (UTC) |
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==[[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[Taylor Carman]]== |
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The article [[Taylor Carman]] has been [[WP:BLPPROD|proposed for deletion]] because, under Wikipedia policy, all '''[[WP:BLP|biographies of living persons]]''' created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one [[WP:V#Sources|reliable source]] that directly supports material in the article.   The nominator also raised the following concern: |
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:<b>All biographies of living people created after March 18, 2010, must have references.</b> |
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If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see [[Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners|Referencing for beginners]], or ask at the [[Wikipedia:Help desk|help desk]]. Once you have provided at least one [[WP:V#Sources|reliable source]], you may remove the {{tl|prod blp}} tag. '''Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced.''' If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can {{#ifexist:Taylor Carman|request that it be undeleted|[[Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion|request that it be undeleted]]}} when you are ready to add one.<!-- Template:ProdwarningBLP --> [[User:The Mark of the Beast|The Mark of the Beast]] ([[User talk:The Mark of the Beast|talk]]) 00:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:Actually, probably not. That's a documentary about the person, but it isn't a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for a [[WP:BLP|biography of a living person]]. [[User:The Mark of the Beast|The Mark of the Beast]] ([[User talk:The Mark of the Beast|talk]]) 05:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 15:10, 11 September 2011
Welcome!
Hello, BlueonGray, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! —C.Fred (talk) 23:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hi C. Fred. How do you flag an entry for removal on the grounds that it is about a junior prof with no accomplishments worth mentioning and was clearly created by himself for self-promotion?--BlueonGray (talk) 23:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Make sure all those allegations hold water, then you'll want to follow the instructions at WP:Proposed deletion or WP:Articles for deletion.
- You could also tag the page for speedy deletion. However, I'm looking at the page right now, and if it meets those criteria, I'll delete it. If it doesn't as an administrator, I'd decline the deletion, and you'd have to go one of the other two routes anyway. —C.Fred (talk) 23:29, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree that the page was created by the subject to self-promote. However, I do agree that the article had no clear assertion of significance or importance, so it was deleted under speedy deletion criterion A7. Had you wanted to tag the article—or if you need to tag a similar article in the future—the tag is {{db-bio}}. —C.Fred (talk) 23:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Fred. This is good to know. I appreciate the tips.--BlueonGray (talk) 23:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
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