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=='''Welcome!'''==
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== Thank you ==

Thanks for your recent edit to my biography. I see it's already been reverted, but I appreciate your assistance. [[User:Jokestress|Jokestress]] ([[User talk:Jokestress|talk]]) 16:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:I appreciate your ongoing assistance. [[User:Jokestress|Jokestress]] ([[User talk:Jokestress|talk]]) 05:21, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
::Again, I do appreciate your assistance. Please let me know if I can be of any help on creating or expanding articles. [[User:Jokestress|Jokestress]] ([[User talk:Jokestress|talk]]) 01:39, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
:::Actually, it's SlimVirgin you should be thanking more than me. It's nice that she was willing to help. [[User:Luwat|Luwat]] ([[User talk:Luwat#top|talk]]) 03:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==3rr==
[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=|link=]] Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an [[WP:EDITWAR|edit war]]. '''Being involved in an edit war can result in you being [[WP:BLOCK|blocked from editing]]'''&mdash;especially if you violate the [[WP:3RR|three-revert rule]], which states that an editor must not perform more than three [[WP:REVERT|reverts]] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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==Your recent edits==
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==An/I==
I've mentioned you here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Andrea_James].[[User:Bali ultimate|Bali ultimate]] ([[User talk:Bali ultimate|talk]]) 22:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== some edits of yours ==

Hi Luwat, welcome to Wikipedia (you're relatively new here so I can still say that) and I see you've gotten involved with some controversial articles. It takes a fair amount of experience to edit in those areas successfully, as you're probably finding out. I looked at a few of your old contributions and I thought I would comment.

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Anwar_Ibrahim&diff=prev&oldid=409055516 This] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anwar_Ibrahim&diff=prev&oldid=409055338 this] (January 20) were pretty bad edits. [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Anwar_Ibrahim&diff=prev&oldid=409056199 Reverting] was especially bad. These were made just after you got here so I assume they were newbie errors and that you know better by now. [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia&diff=prev&oldid=409056526 This] was pretty weird and it makes me wonder how you're approaching some more recent issues.

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Andrea_James&diff=prev&oldid=479724324] (from today) For one thing, please try to be more diplomatic than this ([[WP:CIVIL]], regarding "fucking up articles"). As another, there isn't currently a clear consensus about what to do about that disputed material despite your apparent impression in that edit. Discussion about how to handle it neutrally is ongoing both at NPOVN and the article talkpage, as you're aware.

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jokestress&diff=prev&oldid=479429111 This] might be the reason Bali ultimate thought you were editing in coordinatation with Andrea James.

*Revert warring is always a problem but I see someone has already spoken with you about that.

*There seems to be a long history of interpersonal conflict among people editing that article and related ones. Therefore it's not always obvious to outsiders (that would include me) why any particular edit is being made.

Anyway, happy editing and please try to keep the article neutral, whatever that turns out to mean.

[[Special:Contributions/67.117.145.9|67.117.145.9]] ([[User talk:67.117.145.9|talk]]) 06:21, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

:I am, indeed, not proud of my earliest edits. But I have learned a lot since then, and I now understand and respect BLP. That is my only comment. [[User:Luwat|Luwat]] ([[User talk:Luwat#top|talk]]) 02:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

==The Perth Group==
Thanks for your contributions at [[The Perth Group]]. Please note that Wikipedia does not allow editors to copy and paste material found elsewhere, as this is considered a copyright violation. While it is OK to rewrite materials in your own words, cutting and pasting can lead to being blocked. For more information, please see [[Wikipedia:Copyright violations]]. Some other editors above have made some suggestions about policies as well. I encourage you to read the links in the welcome message I left at the top of your page. I recommend reading [[Wikipedia:Starting an article]] before creating other new articles. Thank you. [[User:Jokestress|Jokestress]] ([[User talk:Jokestress|talk]]) 07:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

== Nomination of [[The Perth Group]] for deletion ==

<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|42px|alt=|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[The Perth Group]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]].

The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Perth Group ]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. [[User:SpectraValor|SpectraValor]] ([[User talk:SpectraValor|talk]]) 17:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:29, 10 April 2012

Welcome!

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Hello, Luwat, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Jokestress (talk) 07:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

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Thanks for your recent edit to my biography. I see it's already been reverted, but I appreciate your assistance. Jokestress (talk) 16:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your ongoing assistance. Jokestress (talk) 05:21, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I do appreciate your assistance. Please let me know if I can be of any help on creating or expanding articles. Jokestress (talk) 01:39, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it's SlimVirgin you should be thanking more than me. It's nice that she was willing to help. Luwat (talk) 03:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

3rr

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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Your recent edits

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Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button or located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 22:10, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

An/I

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I've mentioned you here [1].Bali ultimate (talk) 22:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

some edits of yours

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Hi Luwat, welcome to Wikipedia (you're relatively new here so I can still say that) and I see you've gotten involved with some controversial articles. It takes a fair amount of experience to edit in those areas successfully, as you're probably finding out. I looked at a few of your old contributions and I thought I would comment.

  • This and this (January 20) were pretty bad edits. Reverting was especially bad. These were made just after you got here so I assume they were newbie errors and that you know better by now. This was pretty weird and it makes me wonder how you're approaching some more recent issues.
  • [2] (from today) For one thing, please try to be more diplomatic than this (WP:CIVIL, regarding "fucking up articles"). As another, there isn't currently a clear consensus about what to do about that disputed material despite your apparent impression in that edit. Discussion about how to handle it neutrally is ongoing both at NPOVN and the article talkpage, as you're aware.
  • This might be the reason Bali ultimate thought you were editing in coordinatation with Andrea James.
  • Revert warring is always a problem but I see someone has already spoken with you about that.
  • There seems to be a long history of interpersonal conflict among people editing that article and related ones. Therefore it's not always obvious to outsiders (that would include me) why any particular edit is being made.

Anyway, happy editing and please try to keep the article neutral, whatever that turns out to mean.

67.117.145.9 (talk) 06:21, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am, indeed, not proud of my earliest edits. But I have learned a lot since then, and I now understand and respect BLP. That is my only comment. Luwat (talk) 02:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Perth Group

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Thanks for your contributions at The Perth Group. Please note that Wikipedia does not allow editors to copy and paste material found elsewhere, as this is considered a copyright violation. While it is OK to rewrite materials in your own words, cutting and pasting can lead to being blocked. For more information, please see Wikipedia:Copyright violations. Some other editors above have made some suggestions about policies as well. I encourage you to read the links in the welcome message I left at the top of your page. I recommend reading Wikipedia:Starting an article before creating other new articles. Thank you. Jokestress (talk) 07:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of The Perth Group for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The Perth Group is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Perth Group until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. SpectraValor (talk) 17:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]