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== Article Shouldn't Exist ==
The given etymology doesn't seem right to me. See GCIDE based on Webster's 1913.


=== Article poor ===
2. Pale, without redness or glare, -- said of a flame; hence, of the colour of burning brimstone, betokening the presence of ghosts or devils; as, the candle burns blue; the air was blue with oaths.


I think this article is very weak, not at all informative or authoritative, and detracts from the little recognition Wiki has managed to garner for itself so far. I suggest it be corrected (or otherwise "made better"), or removed.
Assuming that 'oath' in this case is the archaic term for profanity (which seems likely, given the reference to devils) we'd have a previous example of 'blue' referring to foul language; extension to risque or sexual content would be natural.
[[Special:Contributions/202.120.5.161|202.120.5.161]] ([[User talk:202.120.5.161|talk]]) 01:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


== Does this article need to exist? ==
=== Does this article need to exist? ===


It seems jaundiced and very POV. Other than the POV this article lacks merit and meaning. Any dissent on this? [[Special:Contributions/76.27.229.48|76.27.229.48]] ([[User talk:76.27.229.48|talk]]) 04:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
It seems jaundiced and very POV. Other than the POV this article lacks merit and meaning. Any dissent on this? [[Special:Contributions/76.27.229.48|76.27.229.48]] ([[User talk:76.27.229.48|talk]]) 04:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I think there is merit in having a page on the topic of blue comedy. I can see that the list should be separate. [[User:OddThinking|OddThinking]] ([[User talk:OddThinking|talk]]) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

===Ugly===
This is a pretty ugly article. Mostly is the list of blue comedian. Editors have been adding comedians who simply don't belong. The list should be removed and the article itself referenced. If I can get the time, I'll do it myself. [[User:BashBrannigan|BashBrannigan]] ([[User talk:BashBrannigan|talk]]) 18:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

So you propose removing the list, or moving the list to a separate page? Each entry should be referenced, but I am not sure what sort of links would be appropriate.[[User:OddThinking|OddThinking]] ([[User talk:OddThinking|talk]]) 07:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

== Comments on listed comedians ==

=== Bill Hicks ===


I think Bill Hicks is mentioned in the list of blue comedians twice. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.221.3.61|80.221.3.61]] ([[User talk:80.221.3.61|talk]]) 12:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
I think Bill Hicks is mentioned in the list of blue comedians twice. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.221.3.61|80.221.3.61]] ([[User talk:80.221.3.61|talk]]) 12:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Hicks is (no longer?) listed twice. [[User:OddThinking|OddThinking]] ([[User talk:OddThinking|talk]]) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
== Bob Saget example ==

=== Victor Borge? ===

Can anyone explain why Victor Borge is on this list? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Agricola1001|Agricola1001]] ([[User talk:Agricola1001|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Agricola1001|contribs]]) 15:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Victor Borge is (no longer?) listed. [[User:OddThinking|OddThinking]] ([[User talk:OddThinking|talk]]) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Bob Saget Double Listed ===

I love how Bob Saget shows up in the list of blue comedians twice. I considered fixing that, but it really ought to stay that way until some stuffy editor decides it can't stand. ("Oh, Bob Saget!" -The Tourettes Guy) [[User:GandalfDaGraay|Heck to the Darkness...]] ([[User talk:GandalfDaGraay|talk]]) 05:29, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Bob Saget is (no longer?) listed twice. [[User:OddThinking|OddThinking]] ([[User talk:OddThinking|talk]]) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Sex and the city ===
I found this through [[Sex_and_the_City_(film)]], I've never heard the term, and don't think it's a real one. If it is, how does it apply to Sex and the city? [[Special:Contributions/60.242.247.168|60.242.247.168]] ([[User talk:60.242.247.168|talk]]) 09:25, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Sec and the City is (no longer?) listed, and this page is (no longer?) referenced from the Sex and the City page. [[User:OddThinking|OddThinking]] ([[User talk:OddThinking|talk]]) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Bob Saget example ===


Just noticed this quote in the article:
Just noticed this quote in the article:
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In Bob's case, his is an example in reverse (started out {and has re-asserted himself} as a blue comic who is usually remembered as clean-cut due to playing [[Danny Tanner]] on [[Full House]] and his role as [[America's Funniest Home Videos]] original host). [[User:WAVY 10 Fan|WAVY 10 Fan]] ([[User talk:WAVY 10 Fan|talk]]) 15:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
In Bob's case, his is an example in reverse (started out {and has re-asserted himself} as a blue comic who is usually remembered as clean-cut due to playing [[Danny Tanner]] on [[Full House]] and his role as [[America's Funniest Home Videos]] original host). [[User:WAVY 10 Fan|WAVY 10 Fan]] ([[User talk:WAVY 10 Fan|talk]]) 15:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


== Victor Borge? ==
== Etymology wrong.==


=== A ===
Can anyone explain why Victor Borge is on this list? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Agricola1001|Agricola1001]] ([[User talk:Agricola1001|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Agricola1001|contribs]]) 15:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

The given etymology doesn't seem right to me. See GCIDE based on Webster's 1913.

2. Pale, without redness or glare, -- said of a flame; hence, of the colour of burning brimstone, betokening the presence of ghosts or devils; as, the candle burns blue; the air was blue with oaths.

Assuming that 'oath' in this case is the archaic term for profanity (which seems likely, given the reference to devils) we'd have a previous example of 'blue' referring to foul language; extension to risque or sexual content would be natural. -Unsigned

Agreed. I have removed the etymology. [[User:OddThinking|OddThinking]] ([[User talk:OddThinking|talk]]) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

=== B ===

In agreement with above entry, the etymology of the term is definitely wrong (not surprising, the reference comes from...television?). A simple perusal of this page (http://www etymonline com/index.php?search=blue+humor&searchmode=nl [search "blue (2)"]) shows that this use of "blue" has been around since 1840 and could be freely applied in this respect to humor, books, songs etc. quite freely.
[[Special:Contributions/202.120.5.161|202.120.5.161]] ([[User talk:202.120.5.161|talk]]) 01:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I have removed the etymology. [[User:OddThinking|OddThinking]] ([[User talk:OddThinking|talk]]) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

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Article Shouldn't Exist

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Article poor

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I think this article is very weak, not at all informative or authoritative, and detracts from the little recognition Wiki has managed to garner for itself so far. I suggest it be corrected (or otherwise "made better"), or removed. 202.120.5.161 (talk) 01:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does this article need to exist?

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It seems jaundiced and very POV. Other than the POV this article lacks merit and meaning. Any dissent on this? 76.27.229.48 (talk) 04:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is merit in having a page on the topic of blue comedy. I can see that the list should be separate. OddThinking (talk) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ugly

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This is a pretty ugly article. Mostly is the list of blue comedian. Editors have been adding comedians who simply don't belong. The list should be removed and the article itself referenced. If I can get the time, I'll do it myself. BashBrannigan (talk) 18:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you propose removing the list, or moving the list to a separate page? Each entry should be referenced, but I am not sure what sort of links would be appropriate.OddThinking (talk) 07:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on listed comedians

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Bill Hicks

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I think Bill Hicks is mentioned in the list of blue comedians twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.221.3.61 (talk) 12:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hicks is (no longer?) listed twice. OddThinking (talk) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Borge?

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Can anyone explain why Victor Borge is on this list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agricola1001 (talkcontribs) 15:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Borge is (no longer?) listed. OddThinking (talk) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Saget Double Listed

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I love how Bob Saget shows up in the list of blue comedians twice. I considered fixing that, but it really ought to stay that way until some stuffy editor decides it can't stand. ("Oh, Bob Saget!" -The Tourettes Guy) Heck to the Darkness... (talk) 05:29, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Saget is (no longer?) listed twice. OddThinking (talk) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sex and the city

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I found this through Sex_and_the_City_(film), I've never heard the term, and don't think it's a real one. If it is, how does it apply to Sex and the city? 60.242.247.168 (talk) 09:25, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sec and the City is (no longer?) listed, and this page is (no longer?) referenced from the Sex and the City page. OddThinking (talk) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Saget example

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Just noticed this quote in the article:

"Many comedians who are normally family-friendly might choose to work blue when off-camera or in an adult-oriented environment; Bob Saget exemplifies this dichotomy."

In Bob's case, his is an example in reverse (started out {and has re-asserted himself} as a blue comic who is usually remembered as clean-cut due to playing Danny Tanner on Full House and his role as America's Funniest Home Videos original host). WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 15:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology wrong.

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A

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The given etymology doesn't seem right to me. See GCIDE based on Webster's 1913.

2. Pale, without redness or glare, -- said of a flame; hence, of the colour of burning brimstone, betokening the presence of ghosts or devils; as, the candle burns blue; the air was blue with oaths.

Assuming that 'oath' in this case is the archaic term for profanity (which seems likely, given the reference to devils) we'd have a previous example of 'blue' referring to foul language; extension to risque or sexual content would be natural. -Unsigned

Agreed. I have removed the etymology. OddThinking (talk) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

B

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In agreement with above entry, the etymology of the term is definitely wrong (not surprising, the reference comes from...television?). A simple perusal of this page (http://www etymonline com/index.php?search=blue+humor&searchmode=nl [search "blue (2)"]) shows that this use of "blue" has been around since 1840 and could be freely applied in this respect to humor, books, songs etc. quite freely. 202.120.5.161 (talk) 01:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I have removed the etymology. OddThinking (talk) 07:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]