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'''My proposal for revision'''
'''My proposal for revision'''
In the Wikipedia article I have read and made a paper on the very large problems to this article. Many of which was either bad information that linked to bad sources or un trustworthy resources. Many things have to be done to correct this article starting with article citation.
In the Wikipedia article I have read and made a paper on the very large problems to this article. Many of which was either bad information that linked to bad sources or un trustworthy resources. Many things have to be done to correct this article starting with article citation.
The citation of the article was almost horrid. Yet to the articles credit it did contain some very much correct sources such as books and even the Catholic Church websites. However there were some sources that had to come to light such as some of the websites that were used in the article. one of which was a conspiracy theory website that itself upon inspection revealed that it had absolutely no reputable information whatsoever. Being that anyone could edit that website as well or actually donate information without having to back up their claims with citation. Not just articles that had very odd citation but also books. Most to the credit of the article the books were good for information but then there was a book in the citation that actually was a novel. Being a novel it was a fiction connotation of the Templar being an underground organization. We may not know all about them but we can’t take info from a novel based on a authors total interpretation.
The citation of the article was almost horrid. Yet to the articles credit it did contain some very much correct sources such as books and even the Catholic Church websites. However there were some sources that had to come to light such as some of the websites that were used in the article. one of which was a conspiracy theory website that itself upon inspection revealed that it had absolutely no reputable information whatsoever. Being that anyone could edit that website as well or actually donate information without having to back up their claims with citation. Not just articles that had very odd citation but also books. Most to the credit of the article the books were good for information but then there was a book in the citation that actually was a novel. Being a novel it was a fiction connotation of the Templar being an underground organization. We may not know all about them but we can’t take info from a novel based on a authors total interpretation.
Seeing as citation can change an entire battlefield we still have to address the information. much of which was good but there still was no flawless wiki page. Some information that was presented was up to debate by some historians such as the use of symbols by the Templar. I believe it would be important that we mention all speculation on a topic rather than pick one of the beliefs and state it above all else.
Seeing as citation can change an entire battlefield we still have to address the information. much of which was good but there still was no flawless wiki page. Some information that was presented was up to debate by some historians such as the use of symbols by the Templar. I believe it would be important that we mention all speculation on a topic rather than pick one of the beliefs and state it above all else.
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'''resources for Knights Templar wiki page'''
'''resources for Knights Templar wiki page'''
''The real history of the Knights Templar'': by Sharan Newman
* ''The real history of the Knights Templar'': by Sharan Newman
This book is composed of much information based on the Knights Templar that is Information that could be verified by the author and not just speculated information. This book was her quest to find out about the Knights Templar after being asked the question were the Templar real, and even the very plot of the book ''The Da vinci Code''
This book is composed of much information based on the Knights Templar that is Information that could be verified by the author and not just speculated information. This book was her quest to find out about the Knights Templar after being asked the question were the Templar real, and even the very plot of the book ''The Da vinci Code''


''The Knights Templar'': by Stephen Howarth
* ''The Knights Templar'': by Stephen Howarth
This book is a compilation of factual information pertaining to the Knights Templar. But not just the factual information but also the mysticism of the Templar are explored. But how the mysticism is explained and how it came to be through facts stated by actual Templar knights. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Froggy95|Froggy95]] ([[User talk:Froggy95|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Froggy95|contribs]]) 14:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
This book is a compilation of factual information pertaining to the Knights Templar. But not just the factual information but also the mysticism of the Templar are explored. But how the mysticism is explained and how it came to be through facts stated by actual Templar knights. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Froggy95|Froggy95]] ([[User talk:Froggy95|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Froggy95|contribs]]) 14:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


''The DREAM And The TOMB A History Of The Crusades'': by Robert Payne
* ''The DREAM And The TOMB A History Of The Crusades'': by Robert Payne
This book is a unbiased approach to the crusades for Robert Payne spent seven years talking to western and Arabic historians on the crusades. He offers both sides of the story, this book was created for the purpose of knowledge and the hopes that all could read it and learn to accept each other of all faiths so that the crusades will never happen again. Published by wife Shelia Lalwani Payne <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Froggy95|Froggy95]] ([[User talk:Froggy95|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Froggy95|contribs]]) 14:24, 4 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
This book is a unbiased approach to the crusades for Robert Payne spent seven years talking to western and Arabic historians on the crusades. He offers both sides of the story, this book was created for the purpose of knowledge and the hopes that all could read it and learn to accept each other of all faiths so that the crusades will never happen again. Published by wife Shelia Lalwani Payne <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Froggy95|Froggy95]] ([[User talk:Froggy95|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Froggy95|contribs]]) 14:24, 4 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->




'''My Edits'''

The Templar were Knights that took orders from no king but reported directly to the pope. The Templar were formed as warrior monks such as holy men that took the sword to protect Christian lands. They were originally formed officially to protect Christian pilgrims that went to Jerusalem after the first [[Crusades]]. Only nine Knights were selected to protect every pilgrim that went to Jerusalem. The Knights took refuge in a captured Mosque in a women's sector and it was here the Knights believed they found the stables to Solomon's Temple. It is believed the Knights began to excavate the stables and for nine years made no movement. After the nine year period they came back to Europe to recruit, many of the recruits came from noble families as noblemen sons would go to fight for the holy land.<ref>{{cite book|last=Newman|first=Sharan|title=The Real History Behind the Templars </ref>.

The seal of the Knights Templar is of two Knights riding a horse together. The reasons for this seal are to represent brother hood among the Knights. <ref>{{cite book|last=Howarth|first=Stephen|title=The Knights Templar}}</ref> It is also believed the seal stood for the poverty that each Knight would take upon them selves <ref>{{cite book|last=Newman|first=Sharan|title=The Real History Behind the Templars}}</ref>

But with all the charity the Knights took up poverty among themselves individually.<ref>{{cite book|last=Newman|first=Sharan|title=The Real History Behind the Templar}}</ref>

The Knights were even credited for making the first form of credit. The Templar would take what ever moneys pilgrim had before they would venture to the holy land and then would keep track of what the pilgrim had. By the time the pilgrim made it to the holy land and found a Templar Exchange center they could present a leaflet to the banker and there the pilgrim would be given equal value goods or currency with a tax by the bank. This method was used to protect pilgrim from losing goods to bandits that plagued the country side.<ref>{{cite book|last=Howarth|first=Stephen|title=The Knights Templar}}</ref>

On Saturday 14 of 1307, William de Nogaret summoned the leading members of the university of [[Notre-Dame]] to a meeting in the chapter room of the cathedral. The purpose for the meeting was to denounce the order of Templar as heretical, nauseous, and corrupt.<ref>{{cite book|last=Howarth|first=Stephen|title=The Knights Templar}}</ref>


'''reference'''
*<cite id="froggy95">{{cite book | last = Newman | first = Sharan | title = The Real History Behind the Templars | publisher = The Penguin Group | location = New York | year = 2007 | isbn = 978-0-425-21533-3 }}</cite>

*<cite id="froggy95">{{cite book | last = Howarth | first = Stephen | title = The Knights Templar | publisher = Dorest Press | location = New York | year = 1991 | isbn = 0-88029-663-1}}</cite>

Latest revision as of 02:46, 27 March 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar

My proposal for revision In the Wikipedia article I have read and made a paper on the very large problems to this article. Many of which was either bad information that linked to bad sources or un trustworthy resources. Many things have to be done to correct this article starting with article citation. The citation of the article was almost horrid. Yet to the articles credit it did contain some very much correct sources such as books and even the Catholic Church websites. However there were some sources that had to come to light such as some of the websites that were used in the article. one of which was a conspiracy theory website that itself upon inspection revealed that it had absolutely no reputable information whatsoever. Being that anyone could edit that website as well or actually donate information without having to back up their claims with citation. Not just articles that had very odd citation but also books. Most to the credit of the article the books were good for information but then there was a book in the citation that actually was a novel. Being a novel it was a fiction connotation of the Templar being an underground organization. We may not know all about them but we can’t take info from a novel based on a authors total interpretation. Seeing as citation can change an entire battlefield we still have to address the information. much of which was good but there still was no flawless wiki page. Some information that was presented was up to debate by some historians such as the use of symbols by the Templar. I believe it would be important that we mention all speculation on a topic rather than pick one of the beliefs and state it above all else. The article was good but i plan to fix this article by stating the very much strange nature of its citation by fixing the citation everything should fall into place. With bad citation out then false or distorted info will be neglected leaving room for factual information.

resources for Knights Templar wiki page

  • The real history of the Knights Templar: by Sharan Newman

This book is composed of much information based on the Knights Templar that is Information that could be verified by the author and not just speculated information. This book was her quest to find out about the Knights Templar after being asked the question were the Templar real, and even the very plot of the book The Da vinci Code

  • The Knights Templar: by Stephen Howarth

This book is a compilation of factual information pertaining to the Knights Templar. But not just the factual information but also the mysticism of the Templar are explored. But how the mysticism is explained and how it came to be through facts stated by actual Templar knights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Froggy95 (talkcontribs) 14:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • The DREAM And The TOMB A History Of The Crusades: by Robert Payne

This book is a unbiased approach to the crusades for Robert Payne spent seven years talking to western and Arabic historians on the crusades. He offers both sides of the story, this book was created for the purpose of knowledge and the hopes that all could read it and learn to accept each other of all faiths so that the crusades will never happen again. Published by wife Shelia Lalwani Payne — Preceding unsigned comment added by Froggy95 (talkcontribs) 14:24, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]



My Edits

The Templar were Knights that took orders from no king but reported directly to the pope. The Templar were formed as warrior monks such as holy men that took the sword to protect Christian lands. They were originally formed officially to protect Christian pilgrims that went to Jerusalem after the first Crusades. Only nine Knights were selected to protect every pilgrim that went to Jerusalem. The Knights took refuge in a captured Mosque in a women's sector and it was here the Knights believed they found the stables to Solomon's Temple. It is believed the Knights began to excavate the stables and for nine years made no movement. After the nine year period they came back to Europe to recruit, many of the recruits came from noble families as noblemen sons would go to fight for the holy land.[1].

The seal of the Knights Templar is of two Knights riding a horse together. The reasons for this seal are to represent brother hood among the Knights. [2] It is also believed the seal stood for the poverty that each Knight would take upon them selves [3]

But with all the charity the Knights took up poverty among themselves individually.[4]

The Knights were even credited for making the first form of credit. The Templar would take what ever moneys pilgrim had before they would venture to the holy land and then would keep track of what the pilgrim had. By the time the pilgrim made it to the holy land and found a Templar Exchange center they could present a leaflet to the banker and there the pilgrim would be given equal value goods or currency with a tax by the bank. This method was used to protect pilgrim from losing goods to bandits that plagued the country side.[5]

On Saturday 14 of 1307, William de Nogaret summoned the leading members of the university of Notre-Dame to a meeting in the chapter room of the cathedral. The purpose for the meeting was to denounce the order of Templar as heretical, nauseous, and corrupt.[6]


reference

  • Newman, Sharan (2007). The Real History Behind the Templars. New York: The Penguin Group. ISBN 978-0-425-21533-3.
  • Howarth, Stephen (1991). The Knights Templar. New York: Dorest Press. ISBN 0-88029-663-1.
  1. ^ {{cite book|last=Newman|first=Sharan|title=The Real History Behind the Templars
  2. ^ Howarth, Stephen. The Knights Templar.
  3. ^ Newman, Sharan. The Real History Behind the Templars.
  4. ^ Newman, Sharan. The Real History Behind the Templar.
  5. ^ Howarth, Stephen. The Knights Templar.
  6. ^ Howarth, Stephen. The Knights Templar.