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==== [[Template:Lamar Lady Cardinals basketball coach navbox]] ==== |
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The result of the discussion was '''Relisted''' [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 March 20|here]].<!-- Tfd top --> ~ <b>[[User:BU Rob13|Rob]]</b><sup>[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 02:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC) |
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* {{Tfd links|Lamar Lady Cardinals basketball coach navbox}} |
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Navbox with just two links. [[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 19:00, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
Navbox with just two links. [[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 19:00, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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What is the reason for deletion. What makes this navbox different from numerous others associated with women's college basketball that are not. Articles exist for two of the coaches. That's one more article than several others that I looked at. I would think that if this navbox is flagged for deletion, the others should be also. Here's a quick list of others meeeting the same criteria of "just two pages". |
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Boston College Eagles - two; Connecticut Huskies - one; Duke Blue Devils - one; Georgia Lady Bulldogs - two; Hofstra Pride - two; Iowa Hawkeyes - two; Iowas State Cyclones - one; Liberty Lady Flames - one; Michigan State Spartans - two; Mississippi State Lady Bulldogs - two; Nebraska Cornhuskers - one; North Dakota State Bisons - one; Notre Dame Fighting Irish - one; Ohio Bobcats - two; Oregon State Beavers - two; Sam Houston State Bearkats - two; San Diego State Aztecs - two; San Diego Toreros - one; St. Francis Brooklyn Terriers - one; Syracuse Orange - two |
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[[User:LUSportsFan|LUSportsFan]] ([[User talk:LUSportsFan|talk]]) 19:09, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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::[[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is not considered a valid argument against deletion. The purpose of a Navbox is to navigate between multiple articles on a related topic. The conensus of multiple TFDs is that two links isn't enough and that templates shouldn't be created till the articles are created. Since you brought the other templates to my attention, I will go through them and see any should also be nominated. Right this minute, I don't have the time.[[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 20:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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:::If that's the case and consensus, I have no problems with deleting the navbox for now as long as the WP:TOOSOON criteria is applied equitably. As a guideline, what would be considered enough articles to warrant creating a navbox? There are at least two other coaches for this particular navbox who I think would qualify for an article or at least an article with several coaches listed. One of those coaches (Al Barbre) took the team to the 1991 NCAA Division I Tournament Elite Eight. The team was pretty much a "Cinderella" team in that tournament with wins over the Texas, LSU, and Arkansas teams. Another coach on the list, Pat Park, was a very successful head coach for several women's sports in the early days of women's college sports. She's a member of the National Collegiate Golf Coaches Association Hall of Fame and received several other honors over her coaching career. Here's a link to a recent article about Coach Park.<ref>{{cite web|title=Former LU coach Pat Park to be honored|url=http://www.lamarcardinals.com/news/2016/1/29/WBB_0129164628.aspx|publisher=Lamar University Athletics|accessdate=March 12, 2016}}</ref> |
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::: I don't know whether or not the remaining coaches would warrant a standalone article. They would probably warrant being included in an article covering several coaches. I held off creating the two articles I thought met a materiality test (Park and Barbre) because sufficient citations aren't available over the internet. Those two coaches along with several others were before the internet. I will need to go to printed media or microfiches of that media from back in the day to provide supporting sources. I think lack of easily accessible electronic sources is most likely the challenge for a lot, if not all, of the coaches in the other navboxes listed above. |
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:::Thanks for your help.[[User:LUSportsFan|LUSportsFan]] ([[User talk:LUSportsFan|talk]]) 22:17, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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::::Just an update: Eight articles are currently linked to the navbox following recent creation of articles for Leonard Davis, Liz Galloway McQuitter, David McKey, Al Barbre, Charlotte (Chickie) Mason, and Cindy Russo. |
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==== [[Template:Akron Zips bowl game navbox]] ==== |
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The result of the discussion was '''delete''' as unopposed.<!-- Tfd top --> ~ <b>[[User:BU Rob13|Rob]]</b><sup>[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 01:59, 20 March 2016 (UTC) |
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Navbox with just two links. It could get more in the future but this is clearly a case of [[WP:TOOSOON]] [[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 11:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC) |
Navbox with just two links. It could get more in the future but this is clearly a case of [[WP:TOOSOON]] [[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 11:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC) |
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==== [[Template:Miami FC (2016) squad]] ==== |
==== [[Template:Miami FC (2016) squad]] ==== |
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The result of the discussion was '''delete and move'''. [[User:Izkala|Izkala]] ([[User talk:Izkala|talk]]) 17:40, 10 April 2016 (UTC)<!-- Tfd top --> |
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*'''Delete''' {{tl|Miami FC squad}} and then move {{tl|Miami FC (2016) squad}} there. These are unrelated pages, so the page history of Miami FC squad doesn't need to be preserved and there's no merging to be done. Clearly {{tl|Miami FC squad}} is more useful as the home of the 2016 team's template than as a redirect. ~ <b>[[User:BU Rob13|Rob]]</b><sup>[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 22:46, 19 March 2016 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 17:40, 10 April 2016
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[edit]- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
The result of the discussion was Relisted here. ~ RobTalk 02:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Also propose deleting
Navbox with just two links. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:00, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
What is the reason for deletion. What makes this navbox different from numerous others associated with women's college basketball that are not. Articles exist for two of the coaches. That's one more article than several others that I looked at. I would think that if this navbox is flagged for deletion, the others should be also. Here's a quick list of others meeeting the same criteria of "just two pages". Boston College Eagles - two; Connecticut Huskies - one; Duke Blue Devils - one; Georgia Lady Bulldogs - two; Hofstra Pride - two; Iowa Hawkeyes - two; Iowas State Cyclones - one; Liberty Lady Flames - one; Michigan State Spartans - two; Mississippi State Lady Bulldogs - two; Nebraska Cornhuskers - one; North Dakota State Bisons - one; Notre Dame Fighting Irish - one; Ohio Bobcats - two; Oregon State Beavers - two; Sam Houston State Bearkats - two; San Diego State Aztecs - two; San Diego Toreros - one; St. Francis Brooklyn Terriers - one; Syracuse Orange - two
LUSportsFan (talk) 19:09, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not considered a valid argument against deletion. The purpose of a Navbox is to navigate between multiple articles on a related topic. The conensus of multiple TFDs is that two links isn't enough and that templates shouldn't be created till the articles are created. Since you brought the other templates to my attention, I will go through them and see any should also be nominated. Right this minute, I don't have the time....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- If that's the case and consensus, I have no problems with deleting the navbox for now as long as the WP:TOOSOON criteria is applied equitably. As a guideline, what would be considered enough articles to warrant creating a navbox? There are at least two other coaches for this particular navbox who I think would qualify for an article or at least an article with several coaches listed. One of those coaches (Al Barbre) took the team to the 1991 NCAA Division I Tournament Elite Eight. The team was pretty much a "Cinderella" team in that tournament with wins over the Texas, LSU, and Arkansas teams. Another coach on the list, Pat Park, was a very successful head coach for several women's sports in the early days of women's college sports. She's a member of the National Collegiate Golf Coaches Association Hall of Fame and received several other honors over her coaching career. Here's a link to a recent article about Coach Park.[1]
- I don't know whether or not the remaining coaches would warrant a standalone article. They would probably warrant being included in an article covering several coaches. I held off creating the two articles I thought met a materiality test (Park and Barbre) because sufficient citations aren't available over the internet. Those two coaches along with several others were before the internet. I will need to go to printed media or microfiches of that media from back in the day to provide supporting sources. I think lack of easily accessible electronic sources is most likely the challenge for a lot, if not all, of the coaches in the other navboxes listed above.
- Thanks for your help.LUSportsFan (talk) 22:17, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not considered a valid argument against deletion. The purpose of a Navbox is to navigate between multiple articles on a related topic. The conensus of multiple TFDs is that two links isn't enough and that templates shouldn't be created till the articles are created. Since you brought the other templates to my attention, I will go through them and see any should also be nominated. Right this minute, I don't have the time....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Former LU coach Pat Park to be honored". Lamar University Athletics. Retrieved March 12, 2016.
- Just an update: Eight articles are currently linked to the navbox following recent creation of articles for Leonard Davis, Liz Galloway McQuitter, David McKey, Al Barbre, Charlotte (Chickie) Mason, and Cindy Russo.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
The result of the discussion was delete as unopposed. ~ RobTalk 01:59, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Navbox with just two links. It could get more in the future but this is clearly a case of WP:TOOSOON ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 04:58, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
The result of the discussion was delete and move. Izkala (talk) 17:40, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Miami FC (2016) squad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Miami FC squad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Miami FC (2016) squad with Template:Miami FC squad.
Article title is Miami FC, so squad navbox should be Template:Miami FC squad Joeykai (talk) 06:47, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 04:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete {{Miami FC squad}} and then move {{Miami FC (2016) squad}} there. These are unrelated pages, so the page history of Miami FC squad doesn't need to be preserved and there's no merging to be done. Clearly {{Miami FC squad}} is more useful as the home of the 2016 team's template than as a redirect. ~ RobTalk 22:46, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
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