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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:51, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Cynthia B. Lee

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... that computer science lecturer Cynthia B. Lee wrote guidelines for Stanford computer science professors to help their communities be more inclusive? Source: "Professor Cynthia Bailey Lee outlined a list of “inclusive community” guidelines for computer science instructors to consider while preparing this year’s class curriculum" Daily Wire article
- ALT1:... that Cynthia B. Lee, a lecturer of computer science at Stanford, "ladysplained" why she found the Google memo offensive? Source: Headline: "I'm a woman in computer science. Let me ladysplain the Google memo to you." Vox

Reviewed: Colorado potato beetle

Created by Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 17:58, 18 October 2017 (UTC).

Date, length, hook, age, and everything else checks out; I would be fine with either of the proposed hooks being selected for the main page. My only question is about the first hook. Do you think that there should be clarity on the "to help their communities be more inclusive" part? My first question when reading the hook was who is this being more inclusive towards? After reading the article, I understand now that it is based on gender, but maybe some revision to make this idea clearer would be helpful. I could be reading too much into it though so apologies if that is the case. Otherwise, great work with this. Aoba47 (talk) 04:22, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, @Aoba47:. My first hook isn't specific about who needs to be included. I struckthrough the original and wrote an alternate hook below--what do you think of it?
ALT2 ... that computer science lecturer Cynthia B. Lee advised Stanford computer science professors to use gender-neutral language in their slides? Source: "Use of 'they' (and their/them) as a singular pronoun is now widely accepted as a neutral alternative, and better than the awkward 'he or she' construction because it also includes genderqueer and non-binary," the document explains." Daily Wire article Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:23, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for addressing my comment. Date, length, hook, age, and everything else checks out here. Aoba47 (talk) 16:52, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

What an incredibly unnoteworthy and pointless DYK. Laughable really. Keyakakushi46 (talk) 17:29, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

You need to support your opposition for this DYK nomination through Wikipedia policy rather than personal opinion. There is no reason to be rude. There is also a potential bias from this user as he or she had put this article up for AfD in the past. I would encourage that the above comment be disregarded for these two reasons. Aoba47 (talk) 18:25, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Disregarding Keyakakushi46's comment. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:51, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * <s>... that computer science lecturer '''[[Cynthia B. Lee]]''' wrote guidelines for [[Stanford]] computer science professors to help their communities be more inclusive?  <small>Source: "Professor Cynthia Bailey Lee outlined a list of “inclusive community” guidelines for computer science instructors to consider while preparing this year’s class curriculum" [http://www.dailywire.com/news/8906/stanford-faculty-advised-stop-using-gendered-pardes-seleh# Daily Wire article]</small></s>
 ** '''ALT1''':... that '''[[Cynthia B. Lee]]''', a lecturer of computer science at [[Stanford]], "ladysplained" why she found the [[Google's Ideological Echo Chamber|Google memo]] offensive?  <small>Source: Headline: "I'm a woman in computer science. Let me ladysplain the Google memo to you." [https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/8/11/16130452/google-memo-women-tech-biology-sexism Vox]</small>
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 <small>Created by [[User:Rachel Helps (BYU)|Rachel Helps (BYU)]] ([[User talk:Rachel Helps (BYU)|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:58, 18 October 2017 (UTC).</small>
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 :*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Date, length, hook, age, and everything else checks out; I would be fine with either of the proposed hooks being selected for the main page. My only question is about the first hook. Do you think that there should be clarity on the "to help their communities be more inclusive" part? My first question when reading the hook was who is this being more inclusive towards? After reading the article, I understand now that it is based on gender, but maybe some revision to make this idea clearer would be helpful. I could be reading too much into it though so apologies if that is the case. Otherwise, great work with this. [[User:Aoba47|Aoba47]] ([[User talk:Aoba47|talk]]) 04:22, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 ::*Thanks for the review, {{ping|Aoba47}}. My first hook isn't specific about who needs to be included. I struckthrough the original and wrote an alternate hook below--what do you think of it?
 ::*'''ALT2''' ... that computer science lecturer '''[[Cynthia B. Lee]]''' advised [[Stanford]] computer science professors to use gender-neutral language in their slides? <small>Source: "Use of 'they' (and their/them) as a singular pronoun is now widely accepted as a neutral alternative, and better than the awkward 'he or she' construction because it also includes genderqueer and non-binary," the document explains." [http://www.dailywire.com/news/8906/stanford-faculty-advised-stop-using-gendered-pardes-seleh# Daily Wire article]</small> [[User:Rachel Helps (BYU)|Rachel Helps (BYU)]] ([[User talk:Rachel Helps (BYU)|talk]]) 16:23, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
+:::*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Thank you for addressing my comment. Date, length, hook, age, and everything else checks out here. [[User:Aoba47|Aoba47]] ([[User talk:Aoba47|talk]]) 16:52, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
+: [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] What an incredibly unnoteworthy and pointless DYK. Laughable really. [[User:Keyakakushi46|Keyakakushi46]] ([[User talk:Keyakakushi46|talk]]) 17:29, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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+::* You need to support your opposition for this DYK nomination through Wikipedia policy rather than personal opinion. There is no reason to be rude. There is also a potential bias from this user as he or she had put this article up for AfD in the past. I would encourage that the above comment be disregarded for these two reasons. [[User:Aoba47|Aoba47]] ([[User talk:Aoba47|talk]]) 18:25, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
+:::*Disregarding Keyakakushi46's comment. [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 05:51, 24 October 2017 (UTC)</div></noinclude><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->