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The result was delete and redirect to List of shipwrecks in 1816. Black Kite (talk) 00:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jane (ship)

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ANOTHER non-notable ship like John (1803 ship), the fact that it existed and subsequently sank is not notable. The only available source is seemingly the book listed on the page, and that ain't enough to make it notable. 💵Money💵emoji💵^Talk 23:43, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 00:06, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 00:06, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - loss covered in List of shipwrecks in 1816. Mjroots (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not notableLyndaship (talk) 17:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I think this can be added to a list. The ship is mentioned in the Australian National Shipwreck Database.--DreamLinker (talk) 10:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect is the decision compatible with arguments put forth so far, presumably with List of shipwrecks in 1816 being the target. We are supposed to consider wp:ATD and choose alternatives to deletion, one reason being to reduce churning in creation and deletion of articles and the horrible consequences of destruction of editors' interest in participating in Wikipedia. The ship is apparently notable enough for an entry in the list-article {consistent with our standards for list-item notability being lower than for separate-article notability). --Doncram (talk) 04:53, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and delete to List of shipwrecks in 1816. Content already in this article to be expanded from merge of currently separate content. Not sufficiently notable in its own right for a separate article. Note delete rather than redirect due to ambiguation of Jane (ship). There are many such ships over the years. (If not delete then it would need some non trivial work to create the disambiguation page for the many many such named marine vessels.) Aoziwe (talk) 07:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''' - loss covered in [[List of shipwrecks in 1816]]. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 15:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' - not notable[[User:Lyndaship|Lyndaship]] ([[User talk:Lyndaship|talk]]) 17:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' - I think this can be added to a list. The ship is [https://dmzapp17p.ris.environment.gov.au/shipwreck/public/wreck/wreck.do?key=931 mentioned] in the Australian National Shipwreck Database.--[[User:DreamLinker|DreamLinker]] ([[User talk:DreamLinker|talk]]) 10:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
+*'''Redirect''' is the decision compatible with arguments put forth so far, presumably with [[List of shipwrecks in 1816]] being the target.  We are supposed to consider [[wp:ATD]] and choose alternatives to deletion, one reason being to reduce churning in creation and deletion of articles and the horrible consequences of destruction of editors' interest in participating in Wikipedia.  The ship is apparently notable enough for an entry in the list-article {consistent with our standards for list-item notability being lower than for separate-article notability). --[[User:Doncram|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram|talk]]) 04:53, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
+*'''Merge and delete''' to [[List of shipwrecks in 1816]].  Content already in this article to be expanded from merge of currently separate content.  Not sufficiently notable in its own right for a separate article.  Note delete rather than redirect due to ambiguation of Jane (ship).  There are many such ships over the years.  (If not delete then it would need some non trivial work to create the disambiguation page for the many many such named marine vessels.)  [[User:Aoziwe|Aoziwe]] ([[User talk:Aoziwe|talk]]) 07:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
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