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This page is to deal with a problem editor who, since around July of 2005, has created a mess among many articles relating to tv and radio stations through multiple IP's.
This page is to deal with a problem editor who, since around July of 2005, has created a mess among many articles relating to tv and radio stations through multiple IP's.


These articles have included the following trademarks:
These articles have included at least one the following trademarks:
*Improper capitalization
*Improper capitalization
*Reports of every single ratings trend by the station
*Reports of every single ratings trend by the station
*Short sentences, including the repeated use of words such as "so".
*Short sentences, including the repeated use of words such as "so" or of the conditional tense (eg. "In 1986 WOIO would become the Fox affiliate.") <!-- augmented by {{user|Hinto}} -->
*In the case of TV stations, mentioning the channel number before the call sign, eg. "2 WMAR" (not exactly a faux pas, but another trademark nonetheless) <!-- added by {{user|Hinto}} -->. The same can be said for radio stations as well, as he can also note the callsign before the frequency in both cases.
*Reports of every single ownership change
*Reports of every single ownership change
*No wikification
*No wikification
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*Repeated use of insider radio terms and initials
*Repeated use of insider radio terms and initials
*Long lists of the artists associated with a particular format at a time
*Long lists of the artists associated with a particular format at a time
*Add content from other Wikipedia articles onto station articles, usually regarding the network that a station airs, and found unwikified at the end
*Repeats content from articles of TV stations at the bottom of that station's article, found unwikified
*Add one-liners at the end of station articles about the station, usually found out of place
*Isn't afraid to insert copyrighted material to existing or new station articles.


I have tried to contact this user repeatedly, especially since there are a certain set of IP addresses he uses over and over, but he has not responded, and has continued to make these edits. As a result, I have set up this page for discussion over what he's done and what to do about it.
I have tried to contact this user repeatedly, especially since there are a certain set of IP addresses he uses over and over, but he has not responded, and has continued to make these edits. As a result, I have set up this page for discussion over what he's done and what to do about it.


As of October 2005, his work can be seen on various TV stations, as well as in most, if not all radio stations located in New York City, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and Chicago.
As of October 2005, his work can be seen on many TV stations in the United States, as well as in most, if not all commercial radio stations located in New York City, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and Chicago.

:I've been trying to figure out how this person knows all this stuff. First I thought he/she was a program director at various NYC radio stations, but when other cities showed up, I thought maybe a radio consultant, because they get brought into different situations and have to know what all the competitors are doing, etc. But TV as well? It's a mystery. [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] 00:57, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

::I frequent a radio/TV message board, and this guy's writing style is similar to one of the people who posts there. - [[User:Hinto|Hinto]] 00:01, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

==IP's Used==
He has used these IP's at one time or another. This is an incomplete list. Apparently, there are three sets of IP ranges that he uses:
*{{user|64.12.116.13}}
*{{user|64.12.116.14}}
*{{user|64.12.116.70}} <!-- added by {{user|Hinto}} -->
*{{user|152.163.100.12}}
*{{user|152.163.100.13}}
*{{user|152.163.100.14}}
*{{user|152.163.100.71}}
*{{user|205.188.116.65}}
*{{user|205.188.116.66}}
*{{user|205.188.116.72}}
*{{user|205.188.116.73}} <!-- added by {{user|Hinto}} -->
*{{user|205.188.116.131}} <!-- added by {{user|Wasted Time R}} -->


==Updates==
==Updates==
*[[October 13]], [[2005]]: Has added his content to [[WMVP]] as {{user|152.163.100.14}} and [[WSCR]] as {{user|152.163.100.13}}. He has used these IP adresses for past edits. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 16:23, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
*[[October 14]], [[2005]]: Has added his content to [[WMVP]] as {{user|152.163.100.14}} and [[WSCR]] as {{user|152.163.100.13}}. He has used these IP adresses for past edits. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 16:23, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
*[[October 16]], 2005: He might mean more than just adding info to station pages, as he also likes to copy segments from network Wikipedia articles onto station pages, as well as add one-liners at the end of certain pages. User {{user|64.12.116.13}} has done this to every tv station in Houston. This is another IP he has used, since I've tried to contact him on this user's talk page. Check [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=KTMD&oldid=25560993 here] for an example of this method. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 14:33, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
*[[October 17]], 2005 {{user|205.188.116.66}} created an article for [[WYLL]]. {{user|205.188.116.65}} also created a very short article for [[WJMP]]. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 12:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
**{{user|205.188.116.137}} added copyvio content from http://www.wlshistory.com to [[WLS (AM)]]. - [[User:Hinto|Hinto]] 23:06, 3 November 2005 (UTC) (just found out today)

*[[October 18]], 2005 {{user|205.188.116.66}} added actual coherent content for [[WOWO]], but a couple of hours later, made his trademark expansion on [[WYSP]]. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 14:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
**Similar expansions were made from {{user|205.188.116.72}} on [[WBEN-FM]] and [[WRDW-FM]] at around the same time as WYSP. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 12:32, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure these entries stand a good chance of being in copyright violation, unless the author is Scott Childers himself. The first station I looked at, WSCR, appears to have been a copy-and-paste from this, minus the graphics:
http://www.scottchilders.com/timecapsule/TCWMAQ.htm
But I'm not sure; I'm really too new to consider blowing that sort of whistle more officially. Would someone more experienced take a look at it? [[User:TECannon|TECannon]] 04:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:I don't know about other cities, but I can't believe that the New York radio station edits are copied from anywhere. The information this person adds is more detailed than any other NYC radio site I've seen, and it also covers a narrower time range (he/she doesn't go back before the mid-60s at the earliest). [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] 12:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::I've noticed in some instances that there are cases of copyvios. I remember tagging an article for a station in Kansas City twice for copyvios, and looking at the page history of [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=WUVN&action=history WUVN], me and Hinto were reverting copyrighted material that he added. So yes, he also pastes copyrighted material at times as well. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 12:57, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
*[[October 19]], 2005 {{user|129.252.127.46}} created articles for tv stations in Columbia, South Carolina. Most of his articles have copyrighted material, and I tagged those for speedy deletion. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 17:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
**And the Boston invasion is on. {{user|205.188.116.65}} is now giving his patented edits to various Boston stations. And on second check, he is copying and pasting articles from station profiles [http://www.bostonradio.org here]. This is ridiculous. I reverted all but one of his contributions, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did all stations from 99.5 and above according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Boston_FM this]. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 17:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
***Looking at the Boston edits, they are a little different from the NYC edits. There aren't as many grammatical mistakes, typos, and choppy sentences, and the mentions of formats don't have the long lists of artists associated with that format. So maybe more evidence that the NYC edits were legit, if poorly done, while the other cities' edits are copyvios? Maybe this person got frustrated at running out of NYC stations to work on, but didn't have personal knowledge of radio in other cities, so resorted to copyvio'ing? Just a theory. [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] 22:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
**In the case of [[WIS-TV]], can't it just be turned into a re-direct of [[WIS]]? - [[User:Hinto|Hinto]] 20:01, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
*[[October 25]], 2005 {{user|205.188.116.66}} posted unnecessary speculation over the format change at [[WXRK]] and its implications on other New York City radio stations. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 03:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
**He has also posted speculation related to the [[WXRK]] format change at [[WNEW-FM]], [[WPLJ]], [[WAXQ]], and surprisingly, [[WNYE-FM]]. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 03:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
*[[November 3]], 2005 {{user|205.188.116.65}} wrote an article on [[WEZE]] while {{user|205.188.116.137}} did his trademark edits on [[WBZ (AM)]]. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 16:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
*[[November 4]], 2005 {{user|205.188.116.14}} added copyrighted material to [[WEEI]] which has already been deleted, while {{user|205.188.116.65}} added copyrighted material to [[WRKO]] and {{user|205.188.116.66}} added a copyrighted article with [[WTTT]]. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 14:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
*{{user|152.163.100.10}} added too much to [[WWOR-TV]] while {{user|152.163.100.65}} did the same to [[WNYW]]. They are both reverted. [[User:ErikNY|ErikNY]] 14:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:10, 30 October 2006

This page is to deal with a problem editor who, since around July of 2005, has created a mess among many articles relating to tv and radio stations through multiple IP's.

These articles have included at least one the following trademarks:

  • Improper capitalization
  • Reports of every single ratings trend by the station
  • Short sentences, including the repeated use of words such as "so" or of the conditional tense (eg. "In 1986 WOIO would become the Fox affiliate.")
  • In the case of TV stations, mentioning the channel number before the call sign, eg. "2 WMAR" (not exactly a faux pas, but another trademark nonetheless) . The same can be said for radio stations as well, as he can also note the callsign before the frequency in both cases.
  • Reports of every single ownership change
  • No wikification
  • Mentions of every single format adjustment (the station leaned rock, etc.)
  • Repeated use of insider radio terms and initials
  • Long lists of the artists associated with a particular format at a time
  • Add content from other Wikipedia articles onto station articles, usually regarding the network that a station airs, and found unwikified at the end
  • Repeats content from articles of TV stations at the bottom of that station's article, found unwikified
  • Add one-liners at the end of station articles about the station, usually found out of place
  • Isn't afraid to insert copyrighted material to existing or new station articles.

I have tried to contact this user repeatedly, especially since there are a certain set of IP addresses he uses over and over, but he has not responded, and has continued to make these edits. As a result, I have set up this page for discussion over what he's done and what to do about it.

As of October 2005, his work can be seen on many TV stations in the United States, as well as in most, if not all commercial radio stations located in New York City, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and Chicago.

I've been trying to figure out how this person knows all this stuff. First I thought he/she was a program director at various NYC radio stations, but when other cities showed up, I thought maybe a radio consultant, because they get brought into different situations and have to know what all the competitors are doing, etc. But TV as well? It's a mystery. Wasted Time R 00:57, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I frequent a radio/TV message board, and this guy's writing style is similar to one of the people who posts there. - Hinto 00:01, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

IP's Used

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He has used these IP's at one time or another. This is an incomplete list. Apparently, there are three sets of IP ranges that he uses:

Updates

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I'm pretty sure these entries stand a good chance of being in copyright violation, unless the author is Scott Childers himself. The first station I looked at, WSCR, appears to have been a copy-and-paste from this, minus the graphics: http://www.scottchilders.com/timecapsule/TCWMAQ.htm But I'm not sure; I'm really too new to consider blowing that sort of whistle more officially. Would someone more experienced take a look at it? TECannon 04:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't know about other cities, but I can't believe that the New York radio station edits are copied from anywhere. The information this person adds is more detailed than any other NYC radio site I've seen, and it also covers a narrower time range (he/she doesn't go back before the mid-60s at the earliest). Wasted Time R 12:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed in some instances that there are cases of copyvios. I remember tagging an article for a station in Kansas City twice for copyvios, and looking at the page history of WUVN, me and Hinto were reverting copyrighted material that he added. So yes, he also pastes copyrighted material at times as well. ErikNY 12:57, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
  • October 19, 2005 129.252.127.46 (talk · contribs) created articles for tv stations in Columbia, South Carolina. Most of his articles have copyrighted material, and I tagged those for speedy deletion. ErikNY 17:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
    • And the Boston invasion is on. 205.188.116.65 (talk · contribs) is now giving his patented edits to various Boston stations. And on second check, he is copying and pasting articles from station profiles here. This is ridiculous. I reverted all but one of his contributions, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did all stations from 99.5 and above according to this. ErikNY 17:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
      • Looking at the Boston edits, they are a little different from the NYC edits. There aren't as many grammatical mistakes, typos, and choppy sentences, and the mentions of formats don't have the long lists of artists associated with that format. So maybe more evidence that the NYC edits were legit, if poorly done, while the other cities' edits are copyvios? Maybe this person got frustrated at running out of NYC stations to work on, but didn't have personal knowledge of radio in other cities, so resorted to copyvio'ing? Just a theory. Wasted Time R 22:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
    • In the case of WIS-TV, can't it just be turned into a re-direct of WIS? - Hinto 20:01, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
  • October 25, 2005 205.188.116.66 (talk · contribs) posted unnecessary speculation over the format change at WXRK and its implications on other New York City radio stations. ErikNY 03:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  • November 3, 2005 205.188.116.65 (talk · contribs) wrote an article on WEZE while 205.188.116.137 (talk · contribs) did his trademark edits on WBZ (AM). ErikNY 16:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
  • November 4, 2005 205.188.116.14 (talk · contribs) added copyrighted material to WEEI which has already been deleted, while 205.188.116.65 (talk · contribs) added copyrighted material to WRKO and 205.188.116.66 (talk · contribs) added a copyrighted article with WTTT. ErikNY 14:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
  • 152.163.100.10 (talk · contribs) added too much to WWOR-TV while 152.163.100.65 (talk · contribs) did the same to WNYW. They are both reverted. ErikNY 14:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)