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==Numismatics== |
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Okay, Chochopk, I will take you up on your offer to help. Is there a code that editors can use to place hidden text on the edit page -- for the purpose of notifying other editors why I did something -- but which will remain hidden from view on the article page? I thought there is such a code, but I cannot find it in Wikipedia help. Thanks,[[User:Coinman62|Coinman62]] 14:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:You can do something this: |
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:That is usually called "comment". Note that if you have the comment as a separate line |
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::The euro (currency sign: €; banking code: EUR) is the official currency of the European states |
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:Then the comment line is as good as a blank line. So the text that follows will start as a new paragraph. --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 20:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::Forgot to say, there's a live example at [[Foreign exchange market]], at the "External links" section. --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 20:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Changes to "peso" article and "Spanish dollar" article == |
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Thanks, Chochopk, for your advice on the hidden text. It worked great. A friend of mine is one of the most respected numismatists in the entire world, and I consulted with him today about the "peso" article and the "Spanish dollar." He offered quite a bit of assistance and suggested some resources. So I made some clarifications on those two pages, based upon his advice and what the published resources said. You might take a look at the changes and see if they are consistent with your knowledge of the two subjects. [[User:Coinman62|Coinman62]] 20:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:I made some minimal changes to [[Spanish dollar]]. You are obviously an expert on dollar/peso coins. Anything before 1900 is out of my reach. However, I made [[User:Chochopk/Latin Monetary Union unit]] as a quick reference to myself. Since you're interested in uploading coin image, I thought these 2 templates can be useful to you: |
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:* {{tl|Coin image box 1 double}} |
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:* {{tl|Coin image box 2 singles}} |
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:They were made at the request of [[User:Curtius]] and have been applied to [[Roman Republican coinage]] extensively. |
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:I see that you uploaded [[:Image:Carlos IV Coin2.jpg]] and at the same time update [[:Image:Carlos IV Coin.jpg]]. Now that these two files are identical. I know this is a sensitive topic, but do you think one of them can be deleted? --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 05:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::Hi Chochopk. Thanks for adjusting the boxes on the Spanish dollar article. Yes, I have been reading on Wikipedia how to delete the first image of Carlos IV coin.jpg -- I think you place a delete tag somewhere on the image file. The more recent upload of Carlos IV coin2.jpg is an improvement over the first. I tried to upload the second as an overwrite of the first. When I made the attempt, it seemed to upload and overwrite, but the page containing the image did not change to the new image. So I don't know what step that I left out. I must admit that I chuckled at your comment that this was "sensitive," but I don't mind a deletion if there was some improvement made. Thanks again. [[User:Coinman62|Coinman62]] 13:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:::It appears that you have successfully overwrite the first image. If you look at the file history at [[:Image:Carlos IV Coin.jpg]], you will see 2 revisions. The newer one has exactly the same number of bytes as [[:Image:Carlos IV Coin2.jpg]]. And on my screen they look identical. Perhaps it was your browser's or the server's cache that prevented you from seeing the effect on the real articles. You can do the following to force a refresh: |
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:::Mozilla/Safari: hold down Shift while clicking Reload (or press Ctrl-Shift-R), Internet Explorer: press Ctrl-F5, Opera/Konqueror: press F5. |
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:::If it's just a cache problem, then I believe it is image 2 that should be deleted. |
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:::Have you thought about uploading images to [[commons:Main Page|Commons]] so that the same image can be used on Wikipedias in different languages without re-uploading to each different server? The policy on commons is stricter than on en because it has to meet requirements in all countries. However the images you have should have no problem because they qualify as [[commons:Template:PD-old]] on the coin design itself, and you made the image yourself. I often find these copyright rules on Wikipedia annoying. They can be a blocking stone for spreading knowledge. But trust me, sooner or later, we will run into one of those copyright crusaders. If you choose to re-upload the images to commons, the duplicate copy on en can be deleted. I can help doing the tedious job of tagging the duplicate if you want. --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 02:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Louis XIV coin == |
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Hello coinman62, I apologize if I may have caused you any offence by reverting the caption to the image. I had only done so because I believed and continue to believe that in having it translated in full (to represent "Louis XIII, by the grace of God, King of France and of Navarre") viewers who may not comprehend Latin may more easily understand the meaning of the inscription. I felt that the original method of presenting the caption, while seemingly truer to the original inscription, was somewhat disjointed and did not flow. None the less, I am very much open to your own point of view. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Brian junhui sim|Brian junhui sim]] ([[User talk:Brian junhui sim|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Brian junhui sim|contribs]]) 14:02, 2 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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Hey, I know theres been alittle difficulty with the one image of yours, but I'm unaware of another problems you may have encountered while editing within wikipedia. If you need some assistance with something, please [[User talk:Searchme|let me know]], I'll do what I can. I'd like to invite you to join or atleast participate within [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics]] which strives to make the wiki world a more calm place by studying coinages. Even if you choose not to join the project, you can have an input, voice your opinions, or look for collaborations among like-hearted editors. Everyone has thier contributions to make, and we would value yours, as it seems your more than just a passing amateur. The project is in need of expertise information and references in all areas of numismatics. Please look over the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics|project page]], join discussions or start your own on it's [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics|talk page]], and find articles and content at [[Portal:Numismatics|the portal]]. We're all just trying to build an encyclopedia, even tho some ways may be different than others, they all end at the same point. [[User:Searchme|<font color="#007FFF">Jo]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Searchme/Esperanza|e ]]</font><font color="#007FFF">[[User talk:Searchme| I]]</font> 03:26, 20 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Thanks == |
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Chochopk, well, you really are a very nice person and quite an accomplished editor. The coin box and caption that you created are beautiful. A few days ago, you provided me with the code to create this style of box, but I had not realized that the separator will probably discourage some unnecessary edits. I submitted the edit containing your suggestion on the Louis XIV article. Many, many thanks. I am now feeling quite guilty for having thrown such a fit, but hopefully, you also now understand why I had become so frustrated. :-( [[User:Coinman62|Coinman62]] 02:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC) |
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Well, thanks, Joe (Searchme). I'm sure you know that the contributors don't get anything out of this except a feeling of philanthropy. The whole Chochopk incident has really made me sick. I've been a coin collector for the past 30 years, and I thought I knew a little something about ancient coins. I have spent hours upon hours scanning and uploading images, researching them, and placing captions -- all thinking I was doing a service for history, maybe even helping some kids. I've had people vandalize the images and delete them, I've had people change the captions to something that was totally incorrect, and I've just had it. |
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:You're welcome. It never feels to to see one's own edit being obstructed. Perhaps that's the inevitable draw back of an open encyclopedia. I believe that most of your edits are still visible now. Edit and always be prepared to defend your own edit (like what you just did). --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 05:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC) |
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As to the Numismatics Project, the way I feel right now, I don't think any of those people would care what I have to say about anything. I bet several of them are just like ChoChoPK who want to insist upon having the pages look that way she (?) wants them to. I can't think of any reason why I should subject myself to that kind of abuse -- none at all. She's completely unapologetic, headstrong, and defensive. |
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==Numismatic Latin== |
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I just don't think she has the right to delete my images. And from what I can detect from her, she has a very protective attitude about her own images and contributions -- so that's not fair, either. |
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Your coin boxes are a quite nice and informative addition to many articles, but in some cases the Latin could use a little touching up; e.g. "dei gratia" means "by the grace of God", not "thanks be to God" (which is "deo gratias"). I'll be happy to fix them up if I can find all of the coin boxes with Latin inscriptions. [[User:RandomCritic|RandomCritic]] 19:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC) |
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==Spanish dollar== |
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I'm no numismatist, but I think that the "Carlos and Juana" coin on the [[Spanish dollar]] page is a 4 reales piece rather than one of 8 reales -- at least, it is stamped with the numeral "4" on the reverse. Do you have an image of an 8 reales C & J piece to substitute for it? [[User:RandomCritic|RandomCritic]] 04:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC) |
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You'll also notice that I switched reverse and obverse labels on a couple of the images. Again, I'm no numismatist, but it's my impression that the obverse is the side which bears the king's name and the start of the titles; the reverse has the conclusion of the titles (if necessary) and the motto, while the date can appear on either side. Comparing these images with numismatic sites on the web dealing with Spanish coins seems to bear this out, e.g. [http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/Sp-milled.1.html here]; the author of the site labels the side with the coat of arms the obverse, and the side with the pillars the reverse. [[User:RandomCritic|RandomCritic]] 04:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC) |
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''I was wondering whether we might agree to utilize all upper case when bracketing omitted Latin letters. I doubt that there is a Wikipedia rule, but this is the only thing that looks a little awkward to me. A friend of mine is a typesetter, and she thinks all of the Latin lettering should be upper case. What do you think?'' |
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The whole puppet thing is just more than I could take. I don't really care anymore about my username, so I am ready to sign off. So I have about concluded that I can better enjoy spending my time doing something else. |
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: I have no particularly strong feelings on the question, but I used the lower case letters because they took up less space. |
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''Also, I think most editors prefer to use "8 real" coin instead of "8 reales," because grammatically, you would say "5 dollar bill" or "8 foot ladder" or "7 mile run." I made this change on the Spanish dollar article.'' |
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You seem like a nice guy, so I really wish you had not sided with Chochopk -- I don't want to start another argument, but I just refuse to accept that her deletion was not silly. If Wikipedia thinks that Chochopk is so wonderful, then she can be in charge of everything, and they can do without me. |
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: Maybe, but I had often seen "8 reales coin" used. Doing a Google search, I get 342 hits for "8 real coin" and 11,300 hits for "8 reales coin". Again, I have no personally strong feelings on the question. |
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''Finally, you are quite correct that the M stands for "Mexico" (actually, I suspect that this is actually abbreviated for the Latin Mexicanus (?) or something similar). But I do know the "O" is the assayer's mark, not the end of the Latin word. In fact, the assayer's mark is what numismatists use to date the coin. This portion of the inscription translation should be changed.'' |
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I guess I'm whining, but I'm just really tired of it. [[User:Coinman62|Coinman62]] 05:30, 20 January 2007 (UTC) |
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: I am not sure about this: I used the Mo to represent the M with a small o on the top, which is a form often used for abbreviations. I thought the assayers marks were the F M, T H, I I, etc. at the end of the sequences. |
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Anyway, thanks for being agreeable about these edits; it's always nice to find editors who prefer cooperation over conflict. [[User:RandomCritic|RandomCritic]] 16:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC) |
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: Hi, I know little about coins, but it seems you've been doing a fantastic job; I hope you don't leave whatever the outcome of the peso image question is. I happened to see the discussion having never visited the images for deletion page before. If we can achieve what you wanted with text rather than an image, don't you agree it's better to do so? I realise you may have spent some time creating the image, but all of us contribute in the knowledge that our work can be redone and improved later. Perhaps you had a reason for using an image rather than text? |
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: There may be history to this dispute; I don't know. But please take a break for a few hours or days and have a think about it. Don't let others get under your skin; set your own agenda. Many of us would be quite sad to see you go over something as seemingly trivial as this. Good luck, and please hang around! [[User:Akihabara|Akihabara]] 14:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Alexander 2nd Tsar of Russia == |
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Dear Sir I have in my posession 2 "gold" coloured coins dated 1899 featuring Nicolas II the denominatons are 5 and 10 Roubles. Would you have any information regarging these coins as they are in excellant condition and are they worth preserving? Many thanks. Michael <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/77.114.15.222|77.114.15.222]] ([[User talk:77.114.15.222|talk]]) 12:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Just to clarify == |
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==Coins== |
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Answered your emails, just to let you know! How did you find Cork? -- [[User:Jack1755|Jack1755]] ([[User talk:Jack1755|talk]]) 16:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:My apologies, I re-sent them from a different address. -- [[User:Jack1755|Jack1755]] ([[User talk:Jack1755|talk]]) 18:21, 15 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::I haven't had the chance to reply to your email yet! Just dropping by to say Louis XVIII and Maria Theresa are not arranged in particular way -- feel free to re-insert the coins yourself -- but be wary not to sandwich text between two images. Kind Regards -- [[User:Jack1755|Jack1755]] ([[User talk:Jack1755|talk]]) 16:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC) |
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Thanks, Akihabara, but I don't think you quite understand the history of this issue. Of course, it's easy to think my image should be deleted NOW. To be perfectly clear, what has me offended is that Chochopk first deleted my image without creating the text header that now appears on the peso page (or without making any other effort to identify the column of images on the page). Then AFTER I accused her of vandalism and AFTER Bookpublisher asked why she did not create the text header, Chopchok went back to the peso page and created a text header. She then returned to the discussion page and announced to everybody that she had created the text header just to prove that she was not trying to dominate the way the page looked. And then to top it all off, she reported everybody who disagreed with her (me, Bookpublisher, and Goldengloves) as puppets. So the bottom line is, I have just had it. I knew this was a thankless job when I began uploading coin images. But I'm tired of vanishing images and vandalized pages. So if Wikipedia deletes the image, in my mind, they will be rewarding the kind of conduct displayed by Chochopk. That's why I said that if Wikipedia deletes the image, I am leaving. I read another Wikipedia policy (on the dispute resolution page) that said editors should not just simply delete, but they should make the necessary changes to avoid the sort of issue we are discussing right now. Wikipedia can cut off its nose despite its face if it wants to. And Chochopk can read the policies to say whatever she wants them to say. [[User:Coinman62|Coinman62]] 16:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:Coinman, I have a reply at the [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2007 January 16#Image:Pesos.jpg|IfD]] page. Here's a copy for your convenience. |
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:Coinman, I do not wish to see you leave. That was never my intention at any time. The sequence of event you describe above was correct. I did add back the text version caption after BookPublisher88 reminded me. At least I am open enough to admit the things that I could have done differently, that is, to add the text version earlier. I don't wish to dominate or control anything. The image still exists as I type here, and it requires a consensus of the community to make a decision. I alone cannot delete the image. I certainly wasn't vandalizing. My point was consistent since the beginning – '''true text is a better alternative'''. That is the root cause of everything that has happened. Again, you have made tremendous contribution on coin images. Please do not leave because of this one incident on one image. We're all just trying to make Wikipedia better. As a token of good faith, what about this: I will retract the sock puppet report, and you let the text replace the image? --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 18:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Whether Chochopk is being a dick or whatever isn't my concern here and shouldn't factor into the deletion discussion. I'm simply voting delete because I find the idea of keeping an image that is just text and could be replaced by a few keystrokes rather inane. There's no purpose to using it instead of text, it isn't even in a fancy font or anything. --[[User:tjstrf|tjstrf]] <small>[[User talk:Tjstrf|talk]]</small> 20:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Didn't mean to get into this fist fight |
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Coinman62, I don't know whether you realized it, but ChochoPK also placed a sock puppet designation on my discussion page. He/she reported me along with three others as a SPs. (In case you have not seen it, I am the attorney who left a note on her discussion page.) The whole sock puppet thing is really amusing because I don't know the first thing about coins. I really did not mean to get in the middle of a fist fight, and I thought I was just being helpful when I came across his/her discussion page. He/She's offering a solution. I agree that Wikipedia should figure out that I we are not marinettes, ''but it would be quicker if you could come to a truce with her''. Regardless, do what you think is right. [[User:Safeharbor8|Safeharbor8]] 02:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:I did everything I could to retract the sock puppet report. I hope that we now have a mutual understanding of each other. I'm sure we can work together in the future. If you have any question about formatting or wiki trick, you can always ask me. I'll be more than happy to help. --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 14:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Okay, Chochopk, I will take you up on your offer to help. Is there a code that editors can use to place hidden text on the edit page -- for the purpose of notifying other editors why I did something -- but which will remain hidden from view on the article page? I thought there is such a code, but I cannot find it in Wikipedia help. Thanks,[[User:Coinman62|Coinman62]] 14:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:Then the comment line is as good as a blank line. So the text that follows will start as a new paragraph. --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 20:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::Forgot to say, there's a live example at [[Foreign exchange market]], at the "External links" section. --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 20:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi, do you have more information about the coin? I was updating the information block and wanted to know if you had any notes on where it may have been minted, and whether the engraver of the die was ever known? [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 09:46, 5 December 2018 (UTC) |
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Hidden text in Wikipedia
[edit]Okay, Chochopk, I will take you up on your offer to help. Is there a code that editors can use to place hidden text on the edit page -- for the purpose of notifying other editors why I did something -- but which will remain hidden from view on the article page? I thought there is such a code, but I cannot find it in Wikipedia help. Thanks,Coinman62 14:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- You can do something this:
- The euro (currency sign: €; banking code: EUR) is the official currency of the European states <!-- Dear editor, please do not do so and so because ... -->. The euro is not used in all of the European Union as not all EU members have adopted the currency.
- That is usually called "comment". Note that if you have the comment as a separate line
- The euro (currency sign: €; banking code: EUR) is the official currency of the European states
- <!-- Dear editor, please do not do so and so because ... -->.
- The euro is not used in all of the European Union as not all EU members have adopted the currency.
- Then the comment line is as good as a blank line. So the text that follows will start as a new paragraph. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 20:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Forgot to say, there's a live example at Foreign exchange market, at the "External links" section. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 20:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Changes to "peso" article and "Spanish dollar" article
[edit]Thanks, Chochopk, for your advice on the hidden text. It worked great. A friend of mine is one of the most respected numismatists in the entire world, and I consulted with him today about the "peso" article and the "Spanish dollar." He offered quite a bit of assistance and suggested some resources. So I made some clarifications on those two pages, based upon his advice and what the published resources said. You might take a look at the changes and see if they are consistent with your knowledge of the two subjects. Coinman62 20:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- I made some minimal changes to Spanish dollar. You are obviously an expert on dollar/peso coins. Anything before 1900 is out of my reach. However, I made User:Chochopk/Latin Monetary Union unit as a quick reference to myself. Since you're interested in uploading coin image, I thought these 2 templates can be useful to you:
- They were made at the request of User:Curtius and have been applied to Roman Republican coinage extensively.
- I see that you uploaded Image:Carlos IV Coin2.jpg and at the same time update Image:Carlos IV Coin.jpg. Now that these two files are identical. I know this is a sensitive topic, but do you think one of them can be deleted? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Chochopk. Thanks for adjusting the boxes on the Spanish dollar article. Yes, I have been reading on Wikipedia how to delete the first image of Carlos IV coin.jpg -- I think you place a delete tag somewhere on the image file. The more recent upload of Carlos IV coin2.jpg is an improvement over the first. I tried to upload the second as an overwrite of the first. When I made the attempt, it seemed to upload and overwrite, but the page containing the image did not change to the new image. So I don't know what step that I left out. I must admit that I chuckled at your comment that this was "sensitive," but I don't mind a deletion if there was some improvement made. Thanks again. Coinman62 13:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- It appears that you have successfully overwrite the first image. If you look at the file history at Image:Carlos IV Coin.jpg, you will see 2 revisions. The newer one has exactly the same number of bytes as Image:Carlos IV Coin2.jpg. And on my screen they look identical. Perhaps it was your browser's or the server's cache that prevented you from seeing the effect on the real articles. You can do the following to force a refresh:
- Mozilla/Safari: hold down Shift while clicking Reload (or press Ctrl-Shift-R), Internet Explorer: press Ctrl-F5, Opera/Konqueror: press F5.
- If it's just a cache problem, then I believe it is image 2 that should be deleted.
- Have you thought about uploading images to Commons so that the same image can be used on Wikipedias in different languages without re-uploading to each different server? The policy on commons is stricter than on en because it has to meet requirements in all countries. However the images you have should have no problem because they qualify as commons:Template:PD-old on the coin design itself, and you made the image yourself. I often find these copyright rules on Wikipedia annoying. They can be a blocking stone for spreading knowledge. But trust me, sooner or later, we will run into one of those copyright crusaders. If you choose to re-upload the images to commons, the duplicate copy on en can be deleted. I can help doing the tedious job of tagging the duplicate if you want. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 02:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Chochopk. Thanks for adjusting the boxes on the Spanish dollar article. Yes, I have been reading on Wikipedia how to delete the first image of Carlos IV coin.jpg -- I think you place a delete tag somewhere on the image file. The more recent upload of Carlos IV coin2.jpg is an improvement over the first. I tried to upload the second as an overwrite of the first. When I made the attempt, it seemed to upload and overwrite, but the page containing the image did not change to the new image. So I don't know what step that I left out. I must admit that I chuckled at your comment that this was "sensitive," but I don't mind a deletion if there was some improvement made. Thanks again. Coinman62 13:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Louis XIV coin
[edit]Hello coinman62, I apologize if I may have caused you any offence by reverting the caption to the image. I had only done so because I believed and continue to believe that in having it translated in full (to represent "Louis XIII, by the grace of God, King of France and of Navarre") viewers who may not comprehend Latin may more easily understand the meaning of the inscription. I felt that the original method of presenting the caption, while seemingly truer to the original inscription, was somewhat disjointed and did not flow. None the less, I am very much open to your own point of view. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brian junhui sim (talk • contribs) 14:02, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
Thanks
[edit]Chochopk, well, you really are a very nice person and quite an accomplished editor. The coin box and caption that you created are beautiful. A few days ago, you provided me with the code to create this style of box, but I had not realized that the separator will probably discourage some unnecessary edits. I submitted the edit containing your suggestion on the Louis XIV article. Many, many thanks. I am now feeling quite guilty for having thrown such a fit, but hopefully, you also now understand why I had become so frustrated. :-( Coinman62 02:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- You're welcome. It never feels to to see one's own edit being obstructed. Perhaps that's the inevitable draw back of an open encyclopedia. I believe that most of your edits are still visible now. Edit and always be prepared to defend your own edit (like what you just did). --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Numismatic Latin
[edit]Your coin boxes are a quite nice and informative addition to many articles, but in some cases the Latin could use a little touching up; e.g. "dei gratia" means "by the grace of God", not "thanks be to God" (which is "deo gratias"). I'll be happy to fix them up if I can find all of the coin boxes with Latin inscriptions. RandomCritic 19:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Spanish dollar
[edit]I'm no numismatist, but I think that the "Carlos and Juana" coin on the Spanish dollar page is a 4 reales piece rather than one of 8 reales -- at least, it is stamped with the numeral "4" on the reverse. Do you have an image of an 8 reales C & J piece to substitute for it? RandomCritic 04:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC) You'll also notice that I switched reverse and obverse labels on a couple of the images. Again, I'm no numismatist, but it's my impression that the obverse is the side which bears the king's name and the start of the titles; the reverse has the conclusion of the titles (if necessary) and the motto, while the date can appear on either side. Comparing these images with numismatic sites on the web dealing with Spanish coins seems to bear this out, e.g. here; the author of the site labels the side with the coat of arms the obverse, and the side with the pillars the reverse. RandomCritic 04:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering whether we might agree to utilize all upper case when bracketing omitted Latin letters. I doubt that there is a Wikipedia rule, but this is the only thing that looks a little awkward to me. A friend of mine is a typesetter, and she thinks all of the Latin lettering should be upper case. What do you think?
- I have no particularly strong feelings on the question, but I used the lower case letters because they took up less space.
Also, I think most editors prefer to use "8 real" coin instead of "8 reales," because grammatically, you would say "5 dollar bill" or "8 foot ladder" or "7 mile run." I made this change on the Spanish dollar article.
- Maybe, but I had often seen "8 reales coin" used. Doing a Google search, I get 342 hits for "8 real coin" and 11,300 hits for "8 reales coin". Again, I have no personally strong feelings on the question.
Finally, you are quite correct that the M stands for "Mexico" (actually, I suspect that this is actually abbreviated for the Latin Mexicanus (?) or something similar). But I do know the "O" is the assayer's mark, not the end of the Latin word. In fact, the assayer's mark is what numismatists use to date the coin. This portion of the inscription translation should be changed.
- I am not sure about this: I used the Mo to represent the M with a small o on the top, which is a form often used for abbreviations. I thought the assayers marks were the F M, T H, I I, etc. at the end of the sequences.
Anyway, thanks for being agreeable about these edits; it's always nice to find editors who prefer cooperation over conflict. RandomCritic 16:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Alexander 2nd Tsar of Russia
[edit]Dear Sir I have in my posession 2 "gold" coloured coins dated 1899 featuring Nicolas II the denominatons are 5 and 10 Roubles. Would you have any information regarging these coins as they are in excellant condition and are they worth preserving? Many thanks. Michael —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.114.15.222 (talk) 12:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Coins
[edit]Answered your emails, just to let you know! How did you find Cork? -- Jack1755 (talk) 16:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- My apologies, I re-sent them from a different address. -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:21, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- I haven't had the chance to reply to your email yet! Just dropping by to say Louis XVIII and Maria Theresa are not arranged in particular way -- feel free to re-insert the coins yourself -- but be wary not to sandwich text between two images. Kind Regards -- Jack1755 (talk) 16:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, do you have more information about the coin? I was updating the information block and wanted to know if you had any notes on where it may have been minted, and whether the engraver of the die was ever known? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:46, 5 December 2018 (UTC)