Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yomi Kasali

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Michig (talk) 07:44, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Yomi Kasali

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I am not convinced that this is more than puffery, with the references either PR or just notices. DGG ( talk ) 04:43, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 05:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 05:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

• Keep Ouch. I honestly don't have any COI on this but I have something to point out.

Although I believe there are universal guidelines for us here, we still have some cases where the subjects are just notable to their geographical area. Like the article I created on Karen Gibson who is just notable in the UK until appearing at the Royal Wedding. In some cases, like Fuji House of Commotion, the subject is very very notable but has a very weak calibration with references we could get because it was popular before Nigerian media blended with the internet. That has been the case here, he is a notable Nigerian sphere and the article could be improved. There are still Nigerians in red like Sam Adeyemi, Funke Adejumo whom are of public note but may face this good faith flag off. Fellow Nigerian editors who also care about keeping the Wikipedia standard could help drop a comment.

Danidamiobi (talk) 07:30, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

• Keep I find plenty of coverage online of this reverend - it seems that he has made some controversial statements (eg 'Yorubas, Igbos, Hausas monumentally corrupt, Nigerian church built with looted funds – Rev.Yomi Kasali'[1], plus he's condemned other ministers, and comedians who make jokes about religion, etc). The article could certainly be expanded, but I believe he meets WP:GNG, and probably WP:NBISHOP, or whatever the relevant abbreviation is for his denomination. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

RebeccaGreen It will be nice to Note that the aforementioned Pastor is not a Bishop and therefore shouldn't be referred as such. I don't think for any reason he should be considered using the criterion's on WP:NBISHOP, because if he was a Bishop, then he's automatically notable.

Is Nutin (talk) 11:29, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

* Reply I did not say he was a bishop; I am aware that his denomination does not have bishops. What I meant was that within the Apostolic churches of Nigeria, it seems that he may have a similar status. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:37, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

* RebeccaGreen Yes, you are right. That was why i proposed a strong keep.

Is Nutin (talk) 14:06, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:22, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

• Strong Keep. DGG Would you like withdrawing your nomination? Per Danidamiobi he clearly passes WP:GNG and he obviously does same per some of the criterion on WP:ANYBIO.

Is Nutin (talk) 11:29, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

I consider it highly promotional. He even gives the schedule of his talks. DGG ( talk ) 15:56, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Comment: I did some minor copy editing to reduce the promotional tone. Thsmi002 (talk) 18:32, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

• Delete Certainly looks like nothing more than a résumé, with links to opinion columns and press releases. Flowery prose like "and they are blessed with 2 children" shows a clear bias for the subject. Zaathras (talk) 01:45, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

• Comment I thought AfD discussion was meant to be about notability, the existence of sources and verifiability, not the quality of the article. As anyone can edit the article, content and expressions inappropriate to an encyclopaedic entry can be removed or revised; they are not reasons to delete an article if the subject of the article is notable. RebeccaGreen (talk) 09:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 09:21, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

• Keep -- If this were just about being the pastor of a church, I would have little doubt about deleting it, but he is denominational secretary for the national part of a major international denomination. I agree he is not a bishop, but denominational leaders have a similar notability. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:04, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
• Keep. There is plenty of PR, but he is notable, see e.g. [2] and [3]. wumbolo ^^^ 21:05, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.