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# [[User talk:Aquafish/Archive 1|September 2006 – October 2006]] |
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== For future reference == |
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I don't appreciate my good faith edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Aquafish&curid=7097412&diff=79561574&oldid=77100970 to be labeled as vandalism]. Thanks. [[User:Makemi|Mak]] <font color="green">[[User_talk:Makemi|(talk)]]</font> 01:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:I generally take "rvv" to represent '''r'''e'''v'''ert '''v'''andalism. [[User:Makemi|Mak]] <font color="green">[[User_talk:Makemi|(talk)]]</font> 01:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::Yeah, just "rv" would probably be better if what you're reverting isn't vandalism. And if it's not vandalism, it's nice to give a reason you're reverting, such as "rv. POV" or "rv. unnecessary spelling change". [[User:Makemi|Mak]] <font color="green">[[User_talk:Makemi|(talk)]]</font> 01:59, 5 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== You never got one of these, I think == |
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== Welcome! == |
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Hello, {{BASEPAGENAME}}, and [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome]] to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: |
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*[[Wikipedia:Five pillars|The five pillars of Wikipedia]] |
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*[[Wikipedia:How to edit a page|How to edit a page]] |
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*[[Help:Contents|Help pages]] |
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*[[Wikipedia:Tutorial|Tutorial]] |
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*[[Wikipedia:Article development|How to write a great article]] |
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*[[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]] |
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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians|Wikipedian]]! Please [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|sign your name]] on talk pages using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out [[Wikipedia:Questions]], ask me on my talk page, or place <code><nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki></code> on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<font color="orange">'''juice'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 03:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:The [[WP:3RR|3RR]] or "three-revert rule" is a rule that says you must not revert any page more than 3 times in any 24-hour period. Not that reverting up to 3 times is good! The point is that reversion is a kind of edit warring that makes things worse: the only real point to it is to declare that you disagree with the entirety of the change. Once you've done it once, the other person should know you object, and the time has come to start discussing the issue. As for featured and good articles, check out [[WP:WIAFA|What is a Featured article?]] and [[WP:WIAGA|What is a Good article?]]. Articles with those statuses are recognized as especially good encyclopedia articles. And BTW, I find that part of the project very rewarding. :) [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<font color="orange">'''juice'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 14:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::Don't worry about the questions. If I don't respond quickly, you can also use the <nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki> tag to ask questions. You can't block vandals because only admins can block users. Be careful though: remember that "vandalism" is worse than just edits you don't agree with (see [[WP:VAN]]). As for the messages bar, I couldn't say. Sometimes people make slight edits to their comments on your talk page, and this looks like a new message. And sometimes if you open up multiple windows at once, the "new message" thing will show on all of them, and when you check the message, they don't go away. Other than that, no idea. [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<font color="orange">'''juice'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 01:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Again, you can't delete pages. If you want a redirect deleted, it's best to list it at [[WP:RFD]]. [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<font color="orange">'''juice'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 20:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Helpme== |
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How do I semi-protect a page like the banners I've seen on other protected pages? <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 03:06, 7 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:You'd need to be an admin to do that. If not, you can ask an admin to do it for you by going to the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard|admin noticeboard]]. [[User:Jfingers88|<font color="darkgreen">Jfing</font>]][[User:Jfingers88/Esperanza|<font color="green">'''e'''</font>]]<font color="blue">r</font><font color="black">s</font>[[User Talk:Jfingers88|<font color="blue">88</font>]] 03:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::[[Wikipedia:Requests for page protection]] would actually be better. Sorry. [[User:Jfingers88|<font color="darkgreen">Jfing</font>]][[User:Jfingers88/Esperanza|<font color="green">'''e'''</font>]]<font color="blue">r</font><font color="black">s</font>[[User Talk:Jfingers88|<font color="blue">88</font>]] 03:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Response to your question == |
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No, images are excluded from categories. You can check out [[WP:CAT]] for more information. Cheers! -- [[User:Merope|Merope]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Merope|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:I am entirely wrong! Sorry about that; there are cats for images--it's just that images are excluded from cats that contain articles. -- [[User:Merope|Merope]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Merope|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::Since it's my fault, I'll revert your edits. (It's easy for me to do it since I'm an admin.) Again, I'm really sorry about this! -- [[User:Merope|Merope]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Merope|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Done. It's easier because I can look at all your contributions and a button appears next to each line that says "rollback". By clicking it, it undoes your last edit instantly. It's extremely helpful for fighting vandalism. -- [[User:Merope|Merope]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Merope|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::::I just became an admin yesterday, and I have to say, it's a lot of work and a lot of responsibility. Anyway, have a good night! -- [[User:Merope|Merope]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Merope|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Welcome to Esperanza! == |
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Welcome, Aquafish, to [[Wikipedia:Esperanza|Esperanza]]! As you might know, all the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Members|Esperanzians]] share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Charter|Charter]], the governing document of the association. |
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Now that you are a member you should read the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/So you've joined Esperanza...|guide to what to do now]] or you may be interested in some of our [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Programs|programs]]. A quite important program is [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Stressbusters|Stressbusters]], which seeks to support [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Alerts|editors who have encountered any stress]] from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We will send you newsletters to keep you up to date. Also, we have a [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Calendar|calendar]] of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow. |
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In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Proposals|Esperanza/Proposals]]. |
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If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact Natalya by [[Special:Emailuser/Natalya|email]] or [[User talk:Natalya|talk page]]. Consider introducing yourself at the [[Wikipedia talk:Esperanza|Esperanza talk page]]! Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-esperanza #wikipedia-esperanza] (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, you may find help at an [[Wikipedia:IRC tutorial|IRC tutorial]]. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work! |
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<div align=right>--Slgr<font color="#228B22">[[WP:EA|@]]</font>ndson <small>([[User:Slgrandson|page]] - [[User talk:Slgrandson|messages]] - [[Special:Contributions/Slgrandson|contribs]])</small> 03:46, 8 October 2006 (UTC)</div> |
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I'd also like to extend to you a warm welcome. I hope you enjoy the community, and please don't hesitate to come to me with any questions. -- [[User: Cielomobile|Ci]][[User:Cielomobile/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[user:Cielomobile|lomobile]] <sup>[[User talk:Cielomobile|minor7]][[Special:Contributions/Cielomobile|♭5]]</sup> 04:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== your edit pattern == |
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I take it from your edit pattern, you are trying to quickly hit all of the major criteria for Admin status and then make another run at AFD (like you tried with your socks here and on the simple Wikipedia). |
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I think I should make it clear here at this junction that I'll do everything I am able to prevent such an occurance. --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 16:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Peer review help == |
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Thanks for your help with the peer review, but the problem isn't quite fixed. The link to the old peer review (the one where the linked word is "archived") links to the newly posted peer review, and the old one is now gone. Any ideas?--[[User:Dark Kubrick|Dark Kubrick]] 20:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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But aren't both peer reviews supposed to be linked on the article's talk page? The talk page now only has the link to the current peer review, which it says is "archived". To get to the old peer review, you would have to type in that whole name.--[[User:Dark Kubrick|Dark Kubrick]] 21:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Thank you very much. Very frustrating those tricky links are.--[[User:Dark Kubrick|Dark Kubrick]] 21:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Indefinitely blocked == |
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It's quite obvious that you're a sockpuppet of ForestH2 et al., and after continued disruption [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Image:Wayfarerbosch.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=80121779], similar edit patterns [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Little_Einsteins&diff=prev&oldid=79930109] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kpjas&diff=prev&oldid=79575189] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:72.134.40.171&diff=prev&oldid=79575826] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:David.Mestel/Arbitration_report/09.10.06&diff=prev&oldid=80210761], and general exhaustion of patience, I have indefinitely blocked you again. [[User:Ral315|Ral315]] ([[User talk:Ral315|talk]]) 21:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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1 2, and 5 are not against me. I am rather suprised you decided to block me. I am HIS brother. What don't you understand? I am allowed to comment on Kpjas' talkpage, allowed to vote delete in Little Einstiens, allowed to change grammer in the Arbitration report for David.Mestel, and I was doing the correct thing in #1. I will request unblock. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 21:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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{{unblock reviewed|Please see my above comment, a reply to Ral315. I am tired of being blocked. I am ForestH2's brother. I am editing politican articles. Please see the help desk for #1. I do not have the same interests. Nethier disruption. What happend to the promise I had with Mangojuice. No editing the Signpost? I've kept that, I've edited just politican articles. And your also saying I can't vote delete in a wikiproject. Totally absurd. Would someone report this to Mangojuice? And unblock me?|The evidence is compelling. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> 13:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)}} |
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: I have asked Mangojuice to review this one. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> 21:45, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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''I've edited just politican articles.'' - why do you lie? Is that all you've edited? No Spongebob articles in there? (Note to any admin looking at this unblock request): Forrest set up a bent Wikiproject with a number of his socks. --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 21:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:True, I edited some SpongeBob articles in there such as [[The Best Day Ever]]. I was random aritcling and found that article. Even if it was SpongeBob I decided that it should be deleted and I nominated it for deletion. I am not a member of the SBSP Wikiproject nethier am I editing SpongeBob SquarePants articles besides Best Day Ever and Bummer Vacation. For notice, more thanhalf of my edits are to politican articles and US Congress articles. Mangojuice can you look at my unblock request where I am in detail? Also, can I see a response to the earlier response I gave you? <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 21:54, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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'''I am not a member of the SBSP Wikiproject''' |
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So what's all [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikiproject_SpongeBob_SquarePants&diff=next&oldid=80078035 this] about? You are not a member but are just editing project pages? |
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'''neither am I editing SpongeBob SquarePants articles besides Best Day Ever and Bummer Vacation.''' |
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So what's [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:SpongeBob_episode&diff=80120812&oldid=80120082 this],and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Selling_Out_%28SpongeBob_SquarePants_episode%29&diff=prev&oldid=80082835 this], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wigstruck&diff=prev&oldid=80082208 what about this?] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_SpongeBob_SquarePants_episodes&diff=prev&oldid=80085355 this?] |
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Why tell such obvious lies? --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 22:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:Very funny. I meant articles surrounding the subjects Bummer Vacation and Wigstruck. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 22:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:: What about images associated with Spongebob articles? I make it about 30 you have edited - or does that fall under '''neither am I editing SpongeBob SquarePants articles besides Best Day Ever and Bummer Vacation.''' --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 22:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::: I will not lie about that. That was because another admin told me to because he thought they were breaking policy but then he found out he made a mistake. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 22:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Also, you [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Image:BikiniBottom.JPG&action=history edit] the same images, and after just eight edits (five to your user page and three to the sandbox) find your way to [[WP:AIV]] and "[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=77052098 report]" [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=77052323 multiple] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=77052742 socks] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=77077396 of] (for the record, that one's on AN/I) ForestH2 minutes after the accounts are created. After people start questioning your edits, you [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=77081651 claim] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlesknight&diff=prev&oldid=77081768 that] you edit different subject areas (how did you know what he edited?), and then only after more questioning did you [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jeffrey_O._Gustafson&diff=prev&oldid=77082605 claim] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aquafish&diff=prev&oldid=79174135 that] you're his brother. You also attempt to say that you're [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAquafish&diff=77083490&oldid=77083304 unaware] of who ForestH2 is, even after you claim to be his brother and shown insight about which articles and pages he has edited. I will not be so bold as to deny the unblock, given that the (un)blocking admin has already been contacted, but '''strongly discourage this user from being unblocked.''' Thanks. [[User:Flcelloguy|Flcelloguy]] <small>([[User talk:Flcelloguy|A <font color="brown">note?</font>]])</small> 22:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::: Forest told me what subjects he edited here. SpongeBob, Drake & Josh, Little Einstiens....he said he was blocked by Ral315 and Makemi for using sockpuppets and lying. He's in Michigan. I can page him. Would you like that? Do you have something you want to say? I was advised that ForestH2 was Sugarpine; so I was confused for a momment who Forest was. I wasn't supposed to say that he was my brother on my userpage was I? That would have gotten me blocked in minutes...<font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 22:47, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:: And it's just an [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kpjas&action=history amazing occurance] that you have recently head over to the same userpage (for someone connected to the signpost - a project that your brother has multiple Socks trying to get their teeth into) as at least four of your "brothers" accounts (Sugarpine, Treebark,Carmelapple and the ForrestH2 account itself) ? --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 22:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::: I am allowed to edit Kpjas's talk page. I had just learned POV and was ready to show off my skills of the rules there as that was obviously POV. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 23:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::: I also would like to note, to any admin looking to unblock, that his user account was created just 13 minutes after ForestH2 was blocked. (Other diffs were presented much more eloquently by Flcelloguy above.) [[User:Ral315|Ral315]] ([[User talk:Ral315|talk]]) 22:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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An Easy solution presents itself - let's just take the man at his word - [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aquafish&diff=prev&oldid=79174135 If I contribute to the same articles Forest did, block me indef.] - well [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Image:BikiniBottom.JPG&action=history there] you go. --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 22:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Didn't one of his socks also edit Bummer Vacation? Besides, Merope asked me to remove the category so go talk it up with him. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 22:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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I am self admitting this: [[User:VanM|VanM]] is indeed a sockpuppet of ForestH2 according to a list Forest keeps; and [[User:Foxearth|Foxearth]] is one too. I suggest you block them. Any user who sees this should report it to [[WP:AIV]] saying "his brother said so" <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 23:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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The first follows the pattern, the second seems to an attempt to get (what appears) to be - an editor in good standing banning (well what would you know - Forrest's socks fell out with the guy). Well I'm off to bed I think. --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 23:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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What do you mean well what would you know? If it is what I think it's your not AGF or it's not WP:CIVIL. Report both to [[WP:AIV]] or [[WP:ANI]]. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 23:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:: Let me clarify for any admin considering an unblock - [[User:VanM|VanM]] does fit the pattern of Forrest socks but it's a basically inactive one, so I guess that's offered up as a chip to say "what a good boy I am". The second one [[User:Foxearth|Foxearth]] has a pattern of interaction that is similar to many who have interacted with Forrest or his socks. That is to say Forrest makes first contact and then [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Foxearth&diff=next&oldid=63335153 one] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Foxearth&diff=next&oldid=68313190 of] his socks turns up to support something that forresth2 has said or to commit [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Foxearth&diff=next&oldid=69239178 vandalism]. I see nothing here but an attempt by Forrest to settle a grudge because he thinks the game is up with this sock. It's just more cynical gameplaying from forresth2. --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 09:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Forest -- I'm not going to unblock you. I did believe you were ForestH2's brother at first, but I really don't anymore: all the diffs above match things that are too specific about Forest's contribution pattern to be a coincidence, even for a brother. You were blocked indefinitely because of all this sockpuppetry, and in continuing to use sockpuppets to evade your block you are being abusive, and we are putting a stop to it. I think that all of your edits since my unblock of you have been in good faith, however, so I do see the possibility of you being unblocked ''someday,'' but that day has to be a long way off. I have blocked VanM, since that user's contribution pattern does fit Forest's; I haven't blocked Foxearth, but I have reblocked your IP, revoking the anon-only block status, for 1 year. If you want to come back, I suggest you (1) wait at least 4 months -- if after a long time, you still want to edit, we may be more willing to believe you. (2) When you request unblocking be up-front about things: admit that you are ForestH2 and admit to the sockpuppetry you did and, of course, promise not to continue. (3) In the meantime, really take a break from Wikipedia.. but if you can't, read up on our [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|policies and guidelines]]. [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<font color="orange">'''juice'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 12:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Forest/Aquafish/etc. == |
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I can see that you've been editing in good faith, making mostly good edits. However, your behavior has been disruptive, and that's why I'll continue to block you. |
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If you're still interested in editing Wikipedia, please e-mail me (''Wiki.Ral315@Gmail.com''). I would be satisfied to let you continue editing in good faith with the assurance that you would use one account only, that you would give me the names of every account you've ever used, and that you'd be unable to seek adminship. If you're interested, please e-mail me, and we can work on it. [[User:Ral315|Ral315]] ([[User talk:Ral315|talk]]) 13:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Are you talking to me (Aquafish)?, I can e-mail you, and I would not seek adminship. After mangojuice unblocked me I didn't plan to ever seek adminship. I will e-mail you this week, but I can't do it today or tommorow because I'm very busy. Here are a list of accounts that ForestH2 keeps: |
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*MatchPat |
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*Alan25 |
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*Treebark |
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*QuarterZ |
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*ForestH2 |
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*GrasslandT |
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*Larbsaw |
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*VanM |
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*RainbowSwirl |
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*Carmelapple |
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*RiverlarkZ |
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*Streamwate |
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*Sugarpine |
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*Lakelawn |
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*Fieldrack |
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this is only on en.wikipedia. He knows Foxearth's password also. As for simple he uses ForestH2, Treebark, Carmelapple and Jack01. It might be worth doing this: Tell [[User:Netoholic]] that [[simple:User:Lakelawn]] is NOT ForestH2. He is some different user, and I have no clue who he uses. I would use only one account because I thought the way that anon thingy worked when I was unblocked for a while...it worked well. I had one account (Aquafish) and I coun't edit through my IP or create accounts on my IP. That's how I would do it. Oh by the way, Forest's former IP's are 72.129.123.139, 72.134.40.171, 72.134.40.172, 72.134.40.169, and 72.146.46.91. Also why don't you rechange my IP block thingy so it's anon only, then I can use unblock-un to get only one account and we'd all be fine. One account for me, no socks, no creating more socks due to anon-only IP and stuff like that. I'll email you this week sometime with other info. Reply ASAP. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 14:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:Just so no one else checks, I checked all those accounts, and they are all blocked already, except "Streamwate" which is misspelled; "[[User:Streamwater]]" is blocked already. [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<font color="orange">'''juice'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 16:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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You are still not acting in good faith - you are still playing the brother card - do you not understand what is required? You need to just come clean forrest. Hell even I'd welcome you back in the fold as you were a good editor leaving aside all this nonsense. Stop with this brother nonsense and let's move on --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 15:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::I thought I said above that Aquafish was a sock of ForestH2? I didn't make that clear...I'll act in good faith again. Aquafish is a sock of Forest. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 23:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::: But why are you refering to yourself in the 3rd person "He", the explaination above reads like you are talking about someone else (because I sense wikilawyering in the future). Let's just clear this up once and for good - You are Forresth2 and you used aquafish as a sockpuppet account right? let's get this over and done with and get back to work. --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 23:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::: He? Yes I did use Aquafish as a sock for Forest, and I'm sorry about my grammer. My first language is Swedish or Svenska. Now, you can full-protect all of my socks user talkpages so I am not tempted to use them again. Sorry about the grammer! <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 23:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:For what it's worth, I agree with Charlesknight and Ral315. I never for a second believed that this was Forrest's brother's account, but as I said before, I'd be happy to have Forrest back if he agreed to stick to one account and own up to any other sockpuppets he's created. [[User:Makemi|Mak]] <font color="green">[[User_talk:Makemi|(talk)]]</font> 22:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::I agree to stick to one account and I just owed up to sockpuppets I created when I replied to Ral315. Could you tell him, I will e-mail him this week? <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 23:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::: I'm watching this page, but please do e-mail me in the next few days and perhaps we can work this out. [[User:Ral315|Ral315]] ([[User talk:Ral315|talk]]) 23:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::: O.K. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 23:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:: What is this, [[The Secret Life of Walter Mitty]]? Forrest, you've been found out. 'Fess up, man and move on! <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> 23:00, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Excuse me, I don t appreciate being called a 'sockpuppet' I find that insulting, and its also incredibly untrue. Forest and I have disagreed with many things in the past, and we have bickered but I am in no way connected to him I want to make that very clear. This is ridiculous [[User:Foxearth|Foxearth]] 23:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::But your password is easibly known, for anyone looking to hijack an account. :) <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 00:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::What does that mean, what have you done to my account? You dare to touch it im taking this further anyway, you wont get away with this. [[User:Foxearth|Foxearth]] 09:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::::I haven't touched your account. It's easy for someone else to hack your account. Take precautions and change your password. If someone comes on here and tries to hack an account your's is easiest to do because you have an easy password. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 14:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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I'm trying to still assume good faith here Forrest and that you are honest in wanting to get back to serious editing. So what's going on - [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aquafish&diff=prev&oldid=80306025 here] you say the [[User:Foxearth|Foxearth]] is one of your sockpuppets and then later than changes to you knowing the password of that user account and using it to make posts - there are a number of possibilities here and none of them are that pleasant or show you in a particularly good light. |
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1) [[User:Foxearth|Foxearth]] is a sockpuppet of your - I don't believe this is the case. However that means that [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aquafish&diff=prev&oldid=80306025 here] you tried to get another editor banned as one of your socks - that's pretty low behaviour. |
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2) That you hacked into [[User:Foxearth|Foxearth]] account to make posts - In some respects this is worse and if that's the case, I'd have to move from wanting you to rejoin us to saying that you should be banned indef. because that would be pretty fundemental breakdown of the 'social contract' that we editors have with each other. |
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3) That he is not your puppet and you have not hacked into his account - then that means while having those discussions you have tried to get another editor banned under a false premise. |
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It's difficult to assume goodfaith when your claims keep changing from day to day. |
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--[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 13:12, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:O.K, now this. I know Foxearth's password. I am not going to hack is account. I first told you this [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aquafish&diff=79338139&oldid=79296862 here]. I am not hacking Foxearth's account. If someone is to come on to Wikipedia hoping to hack an account, Foxearth's account is very easy to hack due to Foxearth's password which may need to change. Foxearth is not a sockpuppet of mine though his account his easy to hijack. He should change his password btw. I wouldn't want to hijack an account, I'm not dumb enough, and yes, I do want to get back to serious editing. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 14:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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But that then means that you tried to get another editor [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aquafish&diff=prev&oldid=80306025 blocked]with a false accusation doesn't it? or am I misreading the bit when you tell people to report the account to AIV? |
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Can you explain the reasoning behind such an action? And how would you know his password was easy to hack WITHOUT trying to hack it and testing what the password was? |
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--[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 14:12, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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I didn't edit with his account. I promise I didn't. I just saw that's it easy to find his password by trying to hack it. Ask Foxearth. He can look through his contributions and see if there's anything I edited. <font color="aqua">[[User:Aquafish|Aqua]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Aquafish|fish]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Aquafish|<font color="purple">talk</font></small>]] 14:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:: What about the first part of my question? --[[User:Charlesknight|Charlesknight]] 15:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 19:49, 27 April 2019
This account has been confirmed by a CheckUser as a sockpuppet of ForestH2 (talk · contribs · logs), and has been blocked indefinitely. Please refer to Checkuser for evidence. Account information: block log – contribs – logs – abuse log – CentralAuth |