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== PIllar of Fire ==

Do you have a reference for the changes you made to the Pillar of Fire article, I am wary of anything that uses the word "purport". The church in the UK is in that list and has a reference to New York Times and Time magazine. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] 02:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure what change to which you are referring. A man by the name of William Seymour stopped at the Pentecostal Union branch in Denver, and met Alma White and her husband Kent. In her book, Demons and Tongues, she contended that Seymour was of questionable character. When the revival started at Azusa Street, Seymour appeared as the leading revivalist. Kent White jouned him in LA, and Alma White reputiated him and the entire "speaking in tongues" movement.

Regarding the claims of having many churches worldwide, the burden of proof lies in the claimant. I have a Methodist acquaintance who has served as a missionary leader in India for over 35 years, traveling the country for 6 months every year. In Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu, where these churches are supposed to exist, he found no traces of the Pillar of Fire. Indian pastors have been known to erect signs linking them to American missionary organizations and church denominations, in order to solicit funds. A leading pastor from Vijayawada, Andhra Pradesh, recently visited America and spoke in a church in my home city of Akron, Ohio. He pastors one of the largest churches in that city of over one million. When asked about the claim of the Pillar of Fire of having 85 pastors, a Bible College, etc. he said he had never heard of the Pilar of Fire. He is the chaiman of the Vijayawada Church Council. I would be happy to put you in touch with him. The Pillar of Fire website which makes claims of large mission ministries but gives no proof of their existence.
I would be happy to have a dialogue with you over these changes. I have been acquainted with two respected pastors who spent many years at the headquarters in Zarephath, one of whom visited there last month, and is closely acquainted with Robert Dallenbach and his wife Pauline.
[[User:Carol Penrod|Carol Penrod]]Carol Penron[[User:Carol Penrod|Carol Penrod]]
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Do you have a reference for the changes you made to the Pillar of Fire article, I am wary of anything that uses the word "purport". The church in the UK is in that list and has a reference to New York Times and Time magazine. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 02:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure what change to which you are referring. A man by the name of William Seymour stopped at the Pentecostal Union branch in Denver, and met Alma White and her husband Kent. In her book, Demons and Tongues, she contended that Seymour was of questionable character. When the revival started at Azusa Street, Seymour appeared as the leading revivalist. Kent White jouned him in LA, and Alma White reputiated him and the entire "speaking in tongues" movement.

Regarding the claims of having many churches worldwide, the burden of proof lies in the claimant. I have a Methodist acquaintance who has served as a missionary leader in India for over 35 years, traveling the country for 6 months every year. In Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu, where these churches are supposed to exist, he found no traces of the Pillar of Fire. Indian pastors have been known to erect signs linking them to American missionary organizations and church denominations, in order to solicit funds. A leading pastor from Vijayawada, Andhra Pradesh, recently visited America and spoke in a church in my home city of Akron, Ohio. He pastors one of the largest churches in that city of over one million. When asked about the claim of the Pillar of Fire of having 85 pastors, a Bible College, etc. he said he had never heard of the Pilar of Fire. He is the chaiman of the Vijayawada Church Council. I would be happy to put you in touch with him. The Pillar of Fire website which makes claims of large mission ministries but gives no proof of their existence. I would be happy to have a dialogue with you over these changes. I have been acquainted with two respected pastors who spent many years at the headquarters in Zarephath, one of whom visited there last month, and is closely acquainted with Robert Dallenbach and his wife Pauline. Carol PenrodCarol PenronCarol Penrod

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