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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rachel Barcellona

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Does not meet WP:BIO. Has no significant coverage for, relatively speaking, minor achievements. If kept, needs a fundamental rewrite to meet quality expectations. QuiteUnusual (talk) 14:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Note this comment by the article's creator at his own talk page: I believe this page should stay on for a few reasons. 1. Miss Florida pageant hasn't started yet, it's in two weeks. She could be Miss Florida and a Miss America contestant and possibly a Miss America and even if she's isn't I still believe this page is worth keeping. Millions of people have some form of autism and why not a page or several of those who have autism. Inspire people. Plus I'm sure there will be more articles about her in the upcoming days, week. Nyttend (talk) 22:31, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Strong delete Short of winning Miss America she is not going to be notable as a beauty queen. Winning Miss Florida does not make her notable, so being a contestant in Miss Florida even less so. Someone running in a primary election might end up winning a seat in the US house, which would make them notable, but we do not let stand articles on every primary contestant, even for the time between the official filing deadline and the primary election. Yet the number of officially filed primary candidates rarely exceeds 10, while Barcellona is among hundreds if not thousands who make it to be competitors in a state level beauty contest. THere are 51 candidates for Miss America, all US states plus DC. To give some perspective Miss Michigan only has one article on a person who won that title who was not Miss America, that is Ann Penelope Marston, who was pictured in Sports Illustrated due to her notability in archery. I am still not 100% sure Marston is notable, but clearly Barcellona is not.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:59, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 Does not meet [[WP:BIO]]. Has no significant coverage for, relatively speaking, minor achievements. If kept, needs a fundamental rewrite to meet quality expectations. [[User:QuiteUnusual|QuiteUnusual]] ([[User talk:QuiteUnusual|talk]]) 14:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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+*'''Comment''' Note [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=901858702 this comment] by the article's creator at his own talk page: ''I believe this page should stay on for a few reasons. 1. Miss Florida pageant hasn't started yet, it's in two weeks. She could be Miss Florida and a Miss America contestant and possibly a Miss America and even if she's isn't I still believe this page is worth keeping. Millions of people have some form of autism and why not a page or several of those who have autism. Inspire people. Plus I'm sure there will be more articles about her in the upcoming days, week.''  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 22:31, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
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+*'''Strong delete''' Short of winning Miss America she is not going to be notable as a beauty queen. Winning Miss Florida does not make her notable, so being a contestant in Miss Florida even less so. Someone running in a primary election might end up winning a seat in the US house, which would make them notable, but we do not let stand articles on every primary contestant, even for the time between the official filing deadline and the primary election. Yet the number of officially filed primary candidates rarely exceeds 10, while Barcellona is among hundreds if not thousands who make it to be competitors in a state level beauty contest. THere are 51 candidates for Miss America, all US states plus DC. To give some perspective Miss Michigan only has one article on a person who won that title who was not Miss America, that is [[Ann Penelope Marston]], who was pictured in Sports Illustrated due to her notability in archery. I am still not 100% sure Marston is notable, but clearly Barcellona is not.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 15:59, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
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