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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 05:33, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<br /> |
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⚫ | * ... that the Syrian [[Melkite|Melkite Christian]] '''[[Sarjun ibn Mansur]]''' was in charge of the fiscal administration of Syria under the first five [[Umayyad Caliphate|Umayyad caliphs]], a period of half a century? <small>Source: "Many sources know that he was at the head of the tax bureau in Syria during the caliphates of Muawiyah I, Yazid I, Muawiyah II, Marwan I, and well into the times of Abdalmalik [...] Baladhuri ... names as the date for the replacement of the man and hismethod the year 81 = 700, the fifteenth year of Abdalmalik's reign. A conservative guess for the year of his installation by Muawiyah would be the year 30 = 650". Sprengling (1939), p. 182</small> |
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** '''ALT1''':... that the [[Melkite|Melkite Christian]] '''[[Sarjun ibn Mansur]]''', who headed the fiscal administration of Syria under the first five [[Umayyad Caliphate|Umayyad caliphs]], was the father of Saint [[John of Damascus]]?<small> Source: "Many sources know that he was at the head of the tax bureau in Syria during the caliphates of Muawiyah I, Yazid I, Muawiyah II, Marwan I, and well into the times of Abdalmalik". Sprengling (1939), p. 182; "S. war der... der Vater des Ioannes Damaskenos (# 2969) und zugleich der Adoptivvater von dessen Adoptivbruder Kosmas (# 4089)." ''Prosopographie der mittelbyzantinischen Zeit'', [https://www.degruyter.com/view/PMBZ/PMBZ17715 Sarğūn ibn Manṣūr ar-Rūmī (#6510)]</small> |
** '''ALT1''':... that the [[Melkite|Melkite Christian]] '''[[Sarjun ibn Mansur]]''', who headed the fiscal administration of Syria under the first five [[Umayyad Caliphate|Umayyad caliphs]], was the father of Saint [[John of Damascus]]?<small> Source: "Many sources know that he was at the head of the tax bureau in Syria during the caliphates of Muawiyah I, Yazid I, Muawiyah II, Marwan I, and well into the times of Abdalmalik". Sprengling (1939), p. 182; "S. war der... der Vater des Ioannes Damaskenos (# 2969) und zugleich der Adoptivvater von dessen Adoptivbruder Kosmas (# 4089)." ''Prosopographie der mittelbyzantinischen Zeit'', [https://www.degruyter.com/view/PMBZ/PMBZ17715 Sarğūn ibn Manṣūr ar-Rūmī (#6510)]</small> |
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:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Fatima bint al-Ahmar|Fatima bint al-Ahmar]] |
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<small>Created by [[User:Cplakidas|Cplakidas]] ([[User talk:Cplakidas|talk]]). Self-nominated at 13:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC).</small> |
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|comments = A QPQ review is still required. I favor ALT1. I've tweaked the linking to remove the separate link to [[caliphs]]; you get the gist by going to [[Umayyad caliphate]]). Also, the piped link from Syria to [[Bilad al-Sham]] is contrary to [[WP:SURPRISE]]; One minor quibble: the article says Sarjun was the "foster father" or "stepfather" of Cosmas, but neither of these mean exactly the same as the source's {{lang|de|Adoptivvater}}. |
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::*Hi [[user:Kim Post|Kim Post]], thanks, I had completely forgotten about this. I corrected the " |
::*Hi [[user:Kim Post|Kim Post]], thanks, I had completely forgotten about this. I corrected the "Adoptivvater" and will try to do the QPQ soon, although I can't promise when as I am on a business trip this week. I will ping you once it is done. Cheers, [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]] [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 11:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC) |
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:::*Hi [[user:Kim Post|Kim Post]], QPQ is now done. [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]] [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 09:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC) |
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:33, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- ... that the Syrian Melkite Christian Sarjun ibn Mansur was in charge of the fiscal administration of Syria under the first five Umayyad caliphs, a period of half a century? Source: "Many sources know that he was at the head of the tax bureau in Syria during the caliphates of Muawiyah I, Yazid I, Muawiyah II, Marwan I, and well into the times of Abdalmalik [...] Baladhuri ... names as the date for the replacement of the man and hismethod the year 81 = 700, the fifteenth year of Abdalmalik's reign. A conservative guess for the year of his installation by Muawiyah would be the year 30 = 650". Sprengling (1939), p. 182
- ALT1:... that the Melkite Christian Sarjun ibn Mansur, who headed the fiscal administration of Syria under the first five Umayyad caliphs, was the father of Saint John of Damascus? Source: "Many sources know that he was at the head of the tax bureau in Syria during the caliphates of Muawiyah I, Yazid I, Muawiyah II, Marwan I, and well into the times of Abdalmalik". Sprengling (1939), p. 182; "S. war der... der Vater des Ioannes Damaskenos (# 2969) und zugleich der Adoptivvater von dessen Adoptivbruder Kosmas (# 4089)." Prosopographie der mittelbyzantinischen Zeit, Sarğūn ibn Manṣūr ar-Rūmī (#6510)
- Reviewed: Fatima bint al-Ahmar
Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self-nominated at 13:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC).
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Overall: A QPQ review is still required. I favor ALT1. I've tweaked the linking to remove the separate link to caliphs; you get the gist by going to Umayyad caliphate). Also, the piped link from Syria to Bilad al-Sham is contrary to WP:SURPRISE; One minor quibble: the article says Sarjun was the "foster father" or "stepfather" of Cosmas, but neither of these mean exactly the same as the source's Adoptivvater. Kim Post (talk) 21:54, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Kim Post, thanks, I had completely forgotten about this. I corrected the "Adoptivvater" and will try to do the QPQ soon, although I can't promise when as I am on a business trip this week. I will ping you once it is done. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 11:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Kim Post, QPQ is now done. Constantine ✍ 09:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)