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We have an editor or a group of editors persistently editing articles related to Taiwanese technology, especially rocketry and spaceflight, always trying to make Taiwan look better. The edits are often highly recognizable, and the same edit is done several times (getting reverted each time) over a timescale of days to months. The IP changes frequently. Common elements of the edits:
We have an editor or a group of editors persistently editing articles related to Taiwanese technology, especially rocketry and spaceflight, always trying to make Taiwan look better. The edits are often highly recognizable, and the same edit is done several times (getting reverted each time) over a timescale of days to months. The IP changes frequently. Common elements of the edits:


* Apparently experienced with some Wikipedia conventions and terms such as those that are frequently used when reverting the vandalism, but at other times seems inexperienced as when the editor does not indent talk page posts.
* Writing claims with references, but the given references do not discuss the claims at all. This is an extremely frequent pattern.
* Writing claims with references, but the given references do not discuss the claims at all. This is an extremely frequent pattern. In addition they don't appear to have actually read the sources they cite.
* Citations are generally bare with only a URL and no other information.
* Misleading links, giving the impression would have articles like [[Taiwanese manned spaceflight program]] or [[Taiwanese astronauts]] where the actual link goes to some other article (e.g. to "Taiwan" or "astronaut")
* Misleading links, giving the impression would have articles like [[Taiwanese manned spaceflight program]] or [[Taiwanese astronauts]] where the actual link goes to some other article (e.g. to "Taiwan" or "astronaut")
* Edit warring and discussion in edit summaries
* NPOV violations like "a cutting edge advanced Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) autonomous lunar lander". [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Space_Organization&diff=741791076&oldid=739526374 Example for all three points]
* NPOV violations like "a cutting edge advanced Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) autonomous lunar lander". [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Space_Organization&diff=741791076&oldid=739526374 Example for all points so far]
* Making [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense&diff=prev&oldid=769491503 politically loaded] statements, and keeping [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Space_Organization&diff=760189477&oldid=760189124 wrong] statements ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Space_Organization&diff=17553369&oldid=14057540 from 2005]) in the article.
* Making [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense&diff=prev&oldid=769491503 politically loaded] statements, and keeping [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Space_Organization&diff=760189477&oldid=760189124 wrong] statements ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Space_Organization&diff=17553369&oldid=14057540 from 2005]) in the article.
* Adding tons of links from and to the articles in "see also", probably to promote visibility of the articles. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Chung-Shan_Institute_of_Science_and_Technology&type=revision&diff=576642606&oldid=576407556 Example]
* Adding tons of links from and to the articles in "see also", probably to promote visibility of the articles. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Chung-Shan_Institute_of_Science_and_Technology&type=revision&diff=576642606&oldid=576407556 Example]
* Namedropping. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Space_Organization&diff=prev&oldid=766658739 Example]
* Namedropping. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=National_Space_Organization&diff=prev&oldid=766658739 Example]
* Repeated edits on page seem to rely on older versions instead of using the revert function, an example is [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Samarth-class_offshore_patrol_vessel&diff=prev&oldid=765032255 this diff] which brought back [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Samarth-class_offshore_patrol_vessel&diff=763280629&oldid=755512193 unrelated earlier vandalism].
* Repeated edits on pages seem to rely on older versions instead of using the revert function, an example is [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Samarth-class_offshore_patrol_vessel&diff=prev&oldid=765032255 this diff] which brought back [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Samarth-class_offshore_patrol_vessel&diff=763280629&oldid=755512193 unrelated earlier vandalism].
* There have been three cases where they have been engaged in discussion on a Talk page: [[Talk:Wan_Chien#Wan_Chien_is_NOT_a_JDAM_weapon|here]], [[Talk:Hsiung_Feng_III#RfC_On_Sources.2C_Nukes.2C_and_Speed|here]], and [[Talk:Sixth-generation jet fighter#Taiwan section|here]].
* There have been three cases where they have been engaged in discussion on a Talk page: [[Talk:Wan_Chien#Wan_Chien_is_NOT_a_JDAM_weapon|here]], [[Talk:Hsiung_Feng_III#RfC_On_Sources.2C_Nukes.2C_and_Speed|here]], and [[Talk:Sixth-generation jet fighter#Taiwan section|here]].
* Accusing others of being traitors betraying the Kuomintang for the PRC, prominently in the case of a request of a third opinion for this user and another one in an edit war concerning [[Sixth-generation jet fighter|this article]]: this editor is known for both appearing to be a serious, good-faith editor and trolling.
* Accusing others of being "the confirmed pro-communist Chinese KMT traitor vandal", prominently in the case of a request of a third opinion for this user and another one in an edit war concerning [[Sixth-generation jet fighter|this article]]: this editor is known for both appearing to be a serious, good-faith editor and trolling.
* Addresses from [https://www.powerhousesystems.net/vypr-vpn.html this] VPN are used to evade IP blocks and detection. Multiple IPs can be active at the same time affecting multiple pages.
* Addresses from [https://www.powerhousesystems.net/vypr-vpn.html this] VPN are used to evade IP blocks and detection. Multiple IPs can be active at the same time affecting multiple pages.
* Extreme exaggeration about the scope and scale of [[Taiwan and weapons of mass destruction|Taiwan’s WMD program]].
* When provoked they will attempt retribution by going through the relevant editor’s contrib page and reverting their edits/engaging in talk page discussions and siding strongly against that editor, often to an uncomfortable degree.


== Admin note ==
== Admin note ==
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== Affected articles ==
== Affected articles ==


Cluster of Taiwan edits:
===Cluster of Taiwan edits:===
* {{pagelinks|National Space Organization}}
* {{pagelinks|National Space Organization}}
* {{pagelinks|List of human spaceflight programs}}
* {{pagelinks|List of human spaceflight programs}}
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* {{pagelinks|Sixth-generation jet fighter}}
* {{pagelinks|Sixth-generation jet fighter}}
* {{pagelinks|Comparison of orbital launch systems}}
* {{pagelinks|Comparison of orbital launch systems}}
* {{pagelinks|Corvette}}
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* {{pagelinks|AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo}}
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* {{pagelinks|Tsai Ing-wen}}
* {{pagelinks|Academia Sinica}}


Articles affected because of revenge streak against other editors:
===Articles affected because of revenge streak against other editors:===
* {{pagelinks|Sukhoi Su-35}}
* {{pagelinks|Sukhoi Su-35}}
* {{pagelinks|India and weapons of mass destruction}}
* {{pagelinks|India and weapons of mass destruction}}
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* {{pagelinks|List of state and union territory capitals in India}}
* {{pagelinks|List of state and union territory capitals in India}}
* {{pagelinks|Luciad}}
* {{pagelinks|Luciad}}
* {{pagelinks|Chang An-lo}}
* {{pagelinks|The Babylon Bee}}
* {{pagelinks|List of LGBT Jews}}
* {{pagelinks|Rouille (ship, 1929)}}
* {{pagelinks|James Battle (fireboat, 1900)}}
* {{pagelinks|CFAV Firebird (YTR 561)}}
* {{pagelinks|Summer Walker}}
* {{pagelinks|Terra Transport}}
* {{pagelinks|Descendants 3}}
* {{pagelinks|Just Add Magic (TV series)}}
* {{pagelinks|Madison Pettis}}
* {{pagelinks|Descendants (2015 film)}}
* {{pagelinks|Caledonian Braves F.C.}}


Unrelated to Taiwan or revenge streak:
===Unrelated to Taiwan or revenge streak:===
* [[Kenneth Fasching-Varner]] (Im not sure how its connected but its clearly not an incidental target see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.234.254.115] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1011:B052:E00B:7408:648A:90CB:BC97])
* [[Kenneth Fasching-Varner]] (Im not sure how its connected but its clearly not an incidental target see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.234.254.115] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1011:B052:E00B:7408:648A:90CB:BC97])

Other articles that saw vandalism:
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* [[ AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo]]
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* [[Tsai Ing-wen]]


== Collected IPs ==
== Collected IPs ==
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*{{user|220.76.55.28}} (May)
*{{user|220.76.55.28}} (May)


Some 2019 IPs
Some 2019 IPs:
*{{user|183.77.40.246}}
*{{user|183.77.40.246}}
*{{user|174.108.182.14}} (all Taiwan related except for rants about Tesla being Croatian not Serbian)
*{{user|174.108.182.14}} (all Taiwan related except for rants about Tesla being Croatian not Serbian)
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*{{user|2600:1011:b01e:2999:53f:991d:d7cf:bfd6}}
*{{user|2600:1011:b01e:2999:53f:991d:d7cf:bfd6}}
*{{user|2600:8801:2e00:1c62:b0f2:a656:7a46:df52}}
*{{user|2600:8801:2e00:1c62:b0f2:a656:7a46:df52}}
*{{User|210.145.54.153}}
*{{User|2601:541:4500:1760:9189:739:52a0:324f}}
*{{User|174.237.4.241}}
*{{User|2600:8801:2e00:1c62:b0f2:a656:7a46:df52}}
*{{User|2600:1011:b028:ecc2:fc2f:2cf5:afba:49b2}}
*{{User|174.237.0.180}}
*{{User|2600:1011:B05F:E709:9D9C:346C:65B6:E8B1}}
*{{User|174.237.140.75}}
*{{User|174.237.138.67}}
*{{User|2600:1011:B021:5645:65A1:B743:18DA:4093}}
*{{User|99.242.112.220}}
*{{User|2600:1011:B024:581F:8D28:E2BA:F584:6205}}
*{{User|2600:1011:B04B:B0C1:E934:595E:1F5A:46B}}


Some IPs share edits with the articles above, but focus more on India and Pakistan otherwise, favoring India:
Some IPs share edits with the articles above, but focus more on India and Pakistan otherwise, favoring India:
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|no ES
|no ES
|MFB, Adam, Arjayay
|mfb, Adam, Arjayay
|N
|N
|Semi 1 week
|Semi 1 week
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|<bdi>Adamgerber80</bdi> 
|<bdi>Adamgerber80</bdi> 


<bdi>Coffee</bdi> <bdi>Floquenbeam</bdi> <bdi>MrOllie</bdi> <bdi>Mfb</bdi> <bdi>BigBryan0</bdi>
<bdi>Coffee</bdi> <bdi>Floquenbeam</bdi> <bdi>MrOllie</bdi> <bdi>mfb</bdi> <bdi>BigBryan0</bdi>
|Y
|Y
|1, semi 30 days
|1, semi 30 days
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Demo chart:{{Collapse-top|Chart}}
Demo chart:{{Collapse-top|Chart}}
{{Collapse-bottom}}
{{Collapse-bottom}}
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There is also an incident with on [[Sixth-generation jet fighters]], with the editor using a variety of different IPs. (Include this in the chart.)

Latest revision as of 08:40, 18 January 2020

User description

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We have an editor or a group of editors persistently editing articles related to Taiwanese technology, especially rocketry and spaceflight, always trying to make Taiwan look better. The edits are often highly recognizable, and the same edit is done several times (getting reverted each time) over a timescale of days to months. The IP changes frequently. Common elements of the edits:

  • Apparently experienced with some Wikipedia conventions and terms such as those that are frequently used when reverting the vandalism, but at other times seems inexperienced as when the editor does not indent talk page posts.
  • Writing claims with references, but the given references do not discuss the claims at all. This is an extremely frequent pattern. In addition they don't appear to have actually read the sources they cite.
  • Citations are generally bare with only a URL and no other information.
  • Misleading links, giving the impression would have articles like Taiwanese manned spaceflight program or Taiwanese astronauts where the actual link goes to some other article (e.g. to "Taiwan" or "astronaut")
  • Edit warring and discussion in edit summaries
  • NPOV violations like "a cutting edge advanced Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) autonomous lunar lander". Example for all points so far
  • Making politically loaded statements, and keeping wrong statements (from 2005) in the article.
  • Adding tons of links from and to the articles in "see also", probably to promote visibility of the articles. Example
  • Namedropping. Example
  • Repeated edits on pages seem to rely on older versions instead of using the revert function, an example is this diff which brought back unrelated earlier vandalism.
  • There have been three cases where they have been engaged in discussion on a Talk page: here, here, and here.
  • Accusing others of being "the confirmed pro-communist Chinese KMT traitor vandal", prominently in the case of a request of a third opinion for this user and another one in an edit war concerning this article: this editor is known for both appearing to be a serious, good-faith editor and trolling.
  • Addresses from this VPN are used to evade IP blocks and detection. Multiple IPs can be active at the same time affecting multiple pages.
  • Extreme exaggeration about the scope and scale of Taiwan’s WMD program.
  • When provoked they will attempt retribution by going through the relevant editor’s contrib page and reverting their edits/engaging in talk page discussions and siding strongly against that editor, often to an uncomfortable degree.

Admin note

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IPs should be considered as block evading and blocked accordingly. NeilN talk to me 20:06, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Please note article protected and the length of protection. El_C 21:50, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Affected articles

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Cluster of Taiwan edits:

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Articles affected because of revenge streak against other editors:

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Unrelated to Taiwan or revenge streak:

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Collected IPs

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Examples of edits from different IPs, not an exhaustive list.

Some 2018 IPs, by far not an exhaustive list:

Some 2019 IPs:

Some IPs share edits with the articles above, but focus more on India and Pakistan otherwise, favoring India:

Misc

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Discussion pages (linked via URL on purpose): Talk:National_Space_Organization, User_talk:Vanamonde93, User_talk:Floquenbeam.

All changes on articles linked here

Feel free to update this page.

Chart

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Page #IP edits Date IP address(es) More IPs Type Involved Editors TP? RfPP? Admins? comments
Hsiung Feng IIE   >25 1/4/17

- Present

45.254.246.81

45.120.202.2

183.171.91.189 

77.70.57.19

223.204.250.218

27.100.19.69

1.237.20.87

59.120.120.50

39.110.61.66

Additions

deletions

source

EW

Adamgerber80

Dan Koeh

America789

Floquenbeam

N SEMI 30 days

N/A # of RfPP filed

Y1

Floq.

1.237.20.87 used twice in a row. IP uses a range of ES, including some erudite ones which may cause them to look like a good editor/VanCop. L3X1
Hsiung Feng III  >50 10/30/16

- Present

79.240.175.148

1.231.28.2

27.100.20.184

103.27.220.101 

43.249.129.212

27.100.19.16

103.27.220.49

27.100.20.248

45.254.247.21

45.254.247.237

45.254.247.29

45.254.247.36 

45.254.247.208

45.254.247.105

45.254.247.8

45.120.202.197

103.27.220.15

103.27.222.158

103.27.222.191

27.100.20.133

27.100.20.96

212.194.114.50

45.120.201.154

43.249.128.118

103.27.231.72

Additions

bad sources

EW

212.194.114.50

118.160.241.146

Sphilbrick

Primefac

MerlinVtwelve

Adamgerber80

MBlaze Lightning

Vanamonde93

Lizard the Wizard L3X1, [[User:Widr|Widr

Raritydash

Y 3

(Full 3 days) (Semi 30 days) (Semi 1 year)

Y It appears there was a vandal cop with multiple IPs. I'm pretty sure they are OK because they also reverted vandalism on other articles, and appear to have an intimate knowledge of WP regarding POV and RS. L3X1
Lunar Lander 2 2/8/17-

3/19/17

113.151.145.122

111.216.158.190

no ES mfb, Adam, Arjayay N Semi 1 week Y
National Space Organization >50 9/29/16

- Present

45.120.201.82

1.237.20.87

45.120.201.50

43.249.129.45

103.17.199.29

58.114.120.202

58.114.119.141

69.167.29.18

103.250.141.161

EW, unref additionsno ES Adamgerber80 

Coffee Floquenbeam MrOllie mfb BigBryan0

Y 1, semi 30 days Y2 TP is more about cleanup, not discussion with the sock
T65 AR 7 4/17/17- 4/18/17 2001:8003:801f:f800:2d34:8f67:cc74:e228

2001:8003:801f:f800:5952:9ee3:3160:bb31

additions, no ES BilCat N N N N
Yun Feng 16 3/12/17

- Present

61.245.72.140

101.51.219.243

62.231.239.133 EW, bad info Adamgerber80

CambridgeBayWeather

N 1, semi 30 days Y, PP Numerous other IP edits but I doubt they are attached.

Demo chart:

Chart


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