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== Use of Islamic honorifics and terms such as "martyr" == |
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[[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles]] says that "Islamic honorifics should generally be omitted from articles (whether Arabic or English), except where they are part of quotations." The current version of the article uses uses Islamic honorifics - for examples: "[[Ali|Hazrat Ali]] (RA) and Imam [[Husayn ibn Ali|Hussain]] (RA)." |
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Wikipedia also has a policy [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view]]. Referring to soldiers killed in action against the enemy as martyrs is not neutral point of view. Having said that, if sources used such language, then it is acceptable to use the word ''in a quotation''.--<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 22:21, 28 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:i dont think that writing a soldier who lost his life against designated international terrorists a martyr violates neutrality. Also muslims consider it extremely insulting if a martyr is designated as killed. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AbdulQahaar|AbdulQahaar]] ([[User talk:AbdulQahaar|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AbdulQahaar|contribs]]) 11:59, 29 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::The standard term in the English-language for a soldier who dies in battle is "killed in action".--<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 12:43, 29 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::I have read dozens of articles on wikipedia in which soldiers who lost their life in battle are mentioned as martyrs. anyway writing a soldier who lost his life against terrorists as a martyr doesnt offend anybody but writing him as killed will offend a lot of pakistanis and muslims. I dont know why you are so intent on making a change that will offend a lot and please none. if you are still steadfast upon erasing the word martyr then please remove it from all other hundreds of similar wikipedia articles(in which the word martyr or martyrdom is mentioned other than in quotation eg articles about catholic martyrs, revolutionary martyrs,Sikh gurus, gallantry award recipients of many countries eg India etc). then I will also change it on this article. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AbdulQahaar|AbdulQahaar]] ([[User talk:AbdulQahaar|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AbdulQahaar|contribs]]) 13:22, 29 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Facebook and Youtube? == |
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I'm seeing Facebook and Youtube used as sources on this article. Keeping in mind common outcomes that can be seen regarding [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_82#Facebook_as_a_source|Facebook]] and [[Noticeboard/Archive_24#Can_a_youtube_video_be_used_as_a_source.2C_when_there_is_no_version_from_any_reliable_source|Youtube]] as sources, I feel that every citation including them should be discussed and scrutinized here on the talk page before actually including them in the article. [[User:MezzoMezzo|MezzoMezzo]] ([[User talk:MezzoMezzo|talk]]) 07:11, 14 November 2016 (UTC) |
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