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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:47, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TwoBars

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Lots of citations, sadly none of them show any independent coverage. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 18:40, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 19:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 19:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete — no in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources. Celestina007 (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Per sources here and here, he is described as a fast-rising producer. He has a produced a handful of singles but none of them pass WP:NSONG. His only claim to notability is being nominated for Producer of the Year at the 2019 Vodafone Ghana Music Awards. One doesn't deserves a separate article simply because there was nominated for a major award. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 14:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Celestina007 why do you allow your judgement been clouded by Versace1608 ?? Is it because he influences you as stated on your userpage? After this discussion, I believe the issue between you two must be discussed at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Geezygee (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Geezygee, how did I miss this threat? He doesn’t influence my decision or wait, does he? Maybe, maybe not you can discuss this At the tea house, wine house, beer house, vodka house or whichever house. I do not care! however what imperstively does influence my decision in a !voting process is the content of the article & if they meet the appropriate notability guidelines & if they don’t I would most likely !vote a delete. Like I said you can discuss my matter with whomever & whatever. Infact discuss it with the God or god you serve I can’t be arsed. You feel me? Oh & furthermore your reputation for creating articles on very non notable people gives me a reason to pause & really question if or not you engage in undisclosed paid editing. Celestina007 (talk) 19:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per WP:MUSICBIO, this article qualifies to be on Wikipedia after been nominated for a major music award in Ghana, Vodafone Ghana Music Awards and 3Music Awards. He produced the biggest hit song in Ghana, Kinaata's Things fall Apart in 2019 topping charts for months (see https://www.myjoyonline.com/entertainment/radio-tv/adom-fm-music-chart-week-41-kofi-kinaataaes-things-fall-apart-debuts-at-no1/ and https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/entertainment/Kofi-Kinaata-s-Things-Fall-Apart-appears-in-University-of-Ghana-exams-826468 and https://3news.com/ug-students-grilled-over-kinaatas-things-fall-apart/ ). He was featured in Ghana's biggest newspaper Daily Graphic (Ghana) for the production, see https://www.graphic.com.gh/showbiz/ghana-music/things-fall-into-place-for-two-bars.html . Again, the article has been tagged as a stub, I ask we keep and improve on it. Geezygee (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Geezygee: None of those charts (including Adom FM Music Chart) are reliable charts; they are all single vendor charts. The Ghanaweb and 3news.com sources are about the song appearing on an exam question. The Daily Graphic source is actually not independent of the subject so it cannot be used to establish notability. Articles being tagged as a stub is irrelevant. In order for a subject to have a separate article, the person needs to meet our notability requirements. The subject's only claim to notability is being nominated for Producer of the Year at the Ghana Music Awards. The 3Music Awards isn't notable. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 14:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Full of primary sources and passing mentions. Kori (@) 23:54, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete'''. The subject fails [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:MUSICBIO]]. Per sources [https://newsghana.com.gh/working-with-kofi-kinaata-has-been-a-dream-two-bars/ here] and [https://medium.com/@kwaolezzes/i-am-coming-up-with-more-projects-ghanaian-music-producer-two-bars-hints-bec6666ccbc4 here], he is described as a fast-rising producer. He has a produced a handful of singles but none of them pass [[WP:NSONG]]. His only claim to notability is being nominated for Producer of the Year at the 2019 Vodafone Ghana Music Awards. One doesn't deserves a separate article simply because there was nominated for a major award. [[User:Versace1608|<span style='color:white;background-color: blue;'><b>&nbsp;Versace'''1608'''&nbsp;</b></span>]] [[User Talk:Versace1608|<sup><span style='color:white;background-color:red;'><b>''Wanna Talk''?</b></span></sup>]] 14:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
-@[[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]] why do you allow your judgement been clouded by [[User:Versace1608|<span style='color:white;background-color: blue;'><b>&nbsp;Versace'''1608'''&nbsp;</b></span>]] ?? Is it because he influences you as stated on your userpage? After this discussion, I believe the issue between you two must be discussed at the ''Wikipedia:Teahouse''.
+@[[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]] why do you allow your judgement been clouded by [[User:Versace1608|<span style='color:white;background-color: blue;'><b>&nbsp;Versace'''1608'''&nbsp;</b></span>]] ?? Is it because he influences you as stated on your userpage? After this discussion, I believe the issue between you two must be discussed at the ''Wikipedia:Teahouse''. [[User:Geezygee|Geezygee]] ([[User talk:Geezygee|talk]]) 14:46, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
+::{{u|Geezygee}}, how did I miss this threat? He doesn’t influence my decision or wait, does he? Maybe, maybe not you can discuss this At the tea house, wine house, beer house, vodka house or whichever house. I do not care! however what imperstively does influence my decision in a !voting process is the content of the article & if they meet the appropriate notability guidelines & if they don’t I would most likely !vote a delete. Like I said you can discuss my matter with whomever & whatever. Infact discuss it with the God or god you serve I can’t be arsed. You feel me? Oh & furthermore your reputation for creating articles on very non notable people gives me a reason to pause & really question if or not you engage in undisclosed paid editing. [[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]] ([[User talk:Celestina007|talk]]) 19:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
-* Keep - per [[WP:MUSICBIO]], this article qualifies to be on Wikipedia after been nominated for a major music award in Ghana, [[Vodafone Ghana Music Awards]] and 3Music Awards. He produced the biggest hit song in Ghana, [[Kofi Kinaata|Kinaata's]] Things fall Apart in 2019 topping charts for months (see https://www.myjoyonline.com/entertainment/radio-tv/adom-fm-music-chart-week-41-kofi-kinaataaes-things-fall-apart-debuts-at-no1/ and https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/entertainment/Kofi-Kinaata-s-Things-Fall-Apart-appears-in-University-of-Ghana-exams-826468 and https://3news.com/ug-students-grilled-over-kinaatas-things-fall-apart/ ). He was featured in Ghana's biggest newspaper [[Daily Graphic (Ghana)]] for the production, see https://www.graphic.com.gh/showbiz/ghana-music/things-fall-into-place-for-two-bars.html . Again, the article has been tagged as a stub, I ask we keep and improve on it.
+* '''Keep''' - per [[WP:MUSICBIO]], this article qualifies to be on Wikipedia after been nominated for a major music award in Ghana, [[Vodafone Ghana Music Awards]] and 3Music Awards. He produced the biggest hit song in Ghana, [[Kofi Kinaata|Kinaata's]] Things fall Apart in 2019 topping charts for months (see https://www.myjoyonline.com/entertainment/radio-tv/adom-fm-music-chart-week-41-kofi-kinaataaes-things-fall-apart-debuts-at-no1/ and https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/entertainment/Kofi-Kinaata-s-Things-Fall-Apart-appears-in-University-of-Ghana-exams-826468 and https://3news.com/ug-students-grilled-over-kinaatas-things-fall-apart/ ). He was featured in Ghana's biggest newspaper [[Daily Graphic (Ghana)]] for the production, see https://www.graphic.com.gh/showbiz/ghana-music/things-fall-into-place-for-two-bars.html . Again, the article has been tagged as a stub, I ask we keep and improve on it. [[User:Geezygee|Geezygee]] ([[User talk:Geezygee|talk]]) 14:46, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
+::{{ping|Geezygee}} None of those charts (including Adom FM Music Chart) are reliable charts; they are all [[WP:SINGLEVENDOR|single vendor charts]]. The Ghanaweb and 3news.com sources are about the song appearing on an exam question. The ''Daily Graphic'' source is actually not independent of the subject so it cannot be used to establish notability. Articles being tagged as a stub is irrelevant. In order for a subject to have a separate article, the person needs to meet our notability requirements. The subject's only claim to notability is being nominated for Producer of the Year at the Ghana Music Awards. The 3Music Awards isn't notable. [[User:Versace1608|<span style='color:white;background-color: blue;'><b>&nbsp;Versace'''1608'''&nbsp;</b></span>]] [[User Talk:Versace1608|<sup><span style='color:white;background-color:red;'><b>''Wanna Talk''?</b></span></sup>]] 14:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' - Full of primary sources and passing mentions. <span style="background-color: orange; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:Koridas|<span style="color: blue">Kori</span>]] ([[User talk:Koridas|<span style="color: greenyellow">@</span>]])</span> 23:54, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
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