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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:45, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Qua (board game)

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG - source cited only include 1 sentence discussion the game, and a search for other coverage only turned up https://quagamer.itch.io/qua by the developer of the game DannyS712 (talk) 16:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. DannyS712 (talk) 16:05, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no claim to notability, inadequate coverage, fails WP:GNG. --Bejnar (talk) 19:42, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I have improved the Qua (board game) Article, and have added a Conflict of Interest disclosure to the Talk page. I am Ok with changing the status from published to draft if someone else wants to edit it for publication. I had an email communication with Cameron Browne to confirm that Qua is the first fully 3D connection game. QuaGamer (talk) 06:13, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The improved article still has no claim to notability, and the game still has inadequate coverage, still fails WP:GNG. --Bejnar (talk) 15:15, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I agree there is inadequate coverage in independent sources. If this Article is deleted, what happens to internal Wikipedia links to it? Will they still go to this deleted article like the links to Selfo ? QuaGamer (talk) 19:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The first source barely mentions the subject and it's a User generated source, the second source doesn't even have anything to do with the subject and fails to mention it, and third source isn't really helpful at all (how-to guides are generally considered unreliable). Koridas ^talk? 04:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The first reference is to the 19th issue of Abstract Games Magazine. Qua is one of the articles in this issue. Here is a direct link to the Qua article in issue 19: Qua QuaGamer (talk) 05:43, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Still fails WP:GNG for lack of adequate coverage. Still has no claim to notability. --Bejnar (talk) 19:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Understood and I agree. If this Article is deleted, can it be merged with other games into a new Article that collects three player connection games, such as the ones listed in Cameron Browne's Connection Games book and perhaps others (e.g., Tricon: https://www.popcorn.cc/~zandor/english/tricon.htm)? QuaGamer (talk) 21:44, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

delete doesn't appear to meet the GNG. I can't find a BGG page for it, which is a bad sign. Hobit (talk) 16:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 Doesn't meet [[WP:GNG]] - source cited only include 1 sentence discussion the game, and a search for other coverage only turned up https://quagamer.itch.io/qua by the developer of the game [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 16:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Games|list of Games-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 16:05, 20 June 2020 (UTC)</small>
 *'''Delete''' no claim to notability, inadequate coverage, fails [[WP:GNG]]. --[[User:Bejnar|Bejnar]] ([[User talk:Bejnar|talk]]) 19:42, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' - I have improved the Qua (board game) Article, and have added a Conflict of Interest disclosure to the Talk page. I am Ok with changing the status from published to draft if someone else wants to edit it for publication. I had an email communication with Cameron Browne to confirm that Qua is the first fully 3D connection game. [[User:QuaGamer|QuaGamer]] ([[User talk:QuaGamer|talk]]) 06:13, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
-I have improved the Qua (board game) Article, and have added a Conflict of Interest disclosure to the Talk page. I am Ok with changing the status from published to draft if someone else wants to edit it for publication. I had an email communication with Cameron Browne to confirm that Qua is the first fully 3D connection game.
-[[User:QuaGamer|QuaGamer]] ([[User talk:QuaGamer|talk]]) 06:13, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 ::'''Comment''' The ''improved'' article still has no claim to notability, and the game still has inadequate coverage, still fails [[WP:GNG]]. --[[User:Bejnar|Bejnar]] ([[User talk:Bejnar|talk]]) 15:15, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' - I agree there is inadequate coverage in independent sources. If this Article is deleted, what happens to internal Wikipedia links to it? Will they still go to this deleted article like the links to [[Selfo]] ? [[User:QuaGamer|QuaGamer]] ([[User talk:QuaGamer|talk]]) 19:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
-OK.
+*'''Delete''' - The first source barely mentions the subject and it's a [[WP:UGC|User generated source]], the second source doesn't even have anything to do with the subject and fails to mention it, and third source isn't really helpful at all (how-to guides are generally considered unreliable). '''<span style="background:#0000FF;padding:4px 3px 3px">[[User:Koridas|<span style="color:black">Kori</span><span style="color:#FFFFFF">das</span>]][[User talk:Koridas|<span style="color:#FFFF00"><sup> talk?</sup></span>]]</span>''' 04:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
-I agree there is inadequate coverage in independent sources. If this Article is deleted, what happens to internal Wikipedia links to it? Will they still go to this deleted article like the links to [[Selfo]] ? [[User:QuaGamer|QuaGamer]] ([[User talk:QuaGamer|talk]]) 19:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' - The first reference is to the 19th issue of Abstract Games Magazine. Qua is one of the articles in this issue. Here is a direct link to the Qua article in issue 19: [https://www.abstractgames.org/qua.html Qua] [[User:QuaGamer|QuaGamer]] ([[User talk:QuaGamer|talk]]) 05:43, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
+:*'''Still''' fails [[WP:GNG]] for lack of adequate coverage.  Still has no claim to notability. --[[User:Bejnar|Bejnar]] ([[User talk:Bejnar|talk]]) 19:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
+::'''Comment''' Understood and I agree. If this Article is deleted, can it be merged with other games into a new Article that collects three player connection games, such as the ones listed in Cameron Browne's Connection Games book and perhaps others (e.g., Tricon: https://www.popcorn.cc/~zandor/english/tricon.htm)? [[User:QuaGamer|QuaGamer]] ([[User talk:QuaGamer|talk]]) 21:44, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
+*'''delete''' doesn't appear to meet the GNG. I can't find a BGG page for it, which is a bad sign. [[User:Hobit|Hobit]] ([[User talk:Hobit|talk]]) 16:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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