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The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were |
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*{{flagicon|New York (state)}} [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]], with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by |
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Hi Nizil, on a number of Rajput clan pages (Jethwa, Jadeja possibly others) there is a user who is adding a pre-written paragraph about Rajputisation regardless of whether it applies to the specific clan or not using the same sources in each (again regardless of whether it is related or not). Is there anyway to contest this?[[User:TSAray|TSAray]] ([[User talk:TSAray|talk]]) 21:36, 7 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|TSAray}}, Sorry for late reply. Please give me link of article or revision where it happened. So I can investigate. -[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 06:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC) |
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*{{flagicon image|Flag of Mars.svg|link=Mars}} [[User:Thebiguglyalien|Thebiguglyalien]], with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points. |
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== please rename krishna janmsthan temple as krishna janmbhoomi == |
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i had earlier renamed it but you changed its name back .So i want to have a formal and polite discussion. |
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Hindus believe that place to be krishna janambhumi(birthplace like ram janmbhoomi) |
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evan hindi wiki title page is [https://hi.wikipedia.org/s/pz4 कृष्ण जन्म भूमि]. |
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Even U.P government also calls it as( JANMBHOOMI https://mathura.nic.in/tourist-place/shri-krishna-janambhumi/) |
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You would not be knowing hindu culture but hindus believe it so that is true.Also you deleated eidgah mosque page just because u want to hide truth and are biased.Whwn even congress historians are saying aurangzeb destryed the mosque.\ |
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You are deleating it |
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If you are a true deserving wiki admin donnt block me and wwrite the truth. |
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/astrology/religious-places/unknown-facts-about-krishna-janmabhoomi/articleshow/68206163.cms |
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https://haribhakt.com/truth-and-facts-about-shri-krishna-janam-bhoomi-mandir/ <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Redmu3212|Redmu3212]] ([[User talk:Redmu3212#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Redmu3212|contribs]]) 07:53, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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{{ping|Redmu3212}}, thank you for engaging in discussion. First, I am not Wikipedia administrator and I have not deleted Eidgah article either. So you should contact the concerned person for it. Ragarding title, Janmasthan and Janmabhumi are the same thing. Both mean 'place of birth'. So there is no point in changing the name. "Janmasthan" is kept because the official website of the temple call itself "Janmasthan" temple. Anyway both are same thing so it is irrelevant. If you have any compelling argument for changing name, engage in the discussion on talkpage where others will participate. I think the name change is unnecessary. [[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 11:40, 18 December 2020 (UTC) |
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[[Krishna Janmabhoomi]] also redirect to the same article. [[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 11:53, 18 December 2020 (UTC) |
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Regarding "still exist" which you keep adding, it is already clear that it still exist so there is no need to write it. It is already mentioned in the next sentences that the new temple complex was built adjacent to "mosque". So it is self-evident that it is still there. [[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 12:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC) |
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still exist then let it be there to make it easy to understand <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Redmu3212|Redmu3212]] ([[User talk:Redmu3212#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Redmu3212|contribs]]) 21:29, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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You would not be knowing hindu culture but hindus believe it so that is true.Also you deleated eidgah mosque page just because u want to hide truth and are biased.Whwn even congress historians are saying aurangzeb destryed the mosque.\ You are deleating it <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Redmu3212|Redmu3212]] ([[User talk:Redmu3212#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Redmu3212|contribs]]) 21:30, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::I have already answered both things. Please stop repeating yourself. [[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 13:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Whispyhistory}}, Happy holidays and Happy New Year. I hope 2021 will be better than this one on-wiki and off-wiki as well. We had good collaborations this year. Looking forward to more. Regards,-[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 05:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC) |
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ARE YOU A HINDU OR KNOW ABOUT HINDU CULTURE |
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WHAT IS I TOUCH A PAGE OF OTHER RELIGION WHICH I AM NOT |
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== Iqbal Qureshi == |
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Hi Nizil, may I ask you to watch over [[Iqbal Qureshi|this]] while I attempt to figure it out? [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]) 21:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Whispyhistory}} Added to watchlist for 3 months. I will improve wherever needed.-[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 05:24, 31 December 2020 (UTC) |
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::Thank you...apparently there were 2 Iqbal's and their filmography are sometimes mixed up eg Sipahsalar (1956). [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]) 06:27, 31 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Whispyhistory}} Ohh, I did not know that. Please correct mistakes. -[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 06:00, 4 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::: As always thanks for your edits. Some of the references were confusing. [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]) 22:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC) |
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==Please explain me how can I upload an image with tag of free availability== |
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U hv marked photo uploaded by me of lord Mahavira's Kalyanaka for deletion but let me say that it is freely available online everywhere I know it's not my own work but I don't know how to give a tag for freely available online images. Please explain me how can I upload an image with tag of free availability or some tag which can withstand the deletion. Please reply ASAP. And it's available at here also http://www.jaina.org/resource/resmgr/021916_eblast/Bhagwan_Mahavir_Diksha_Kalya.pdf |
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:Please do not forget to sign your comments with <nowiki>-~~~~</nowiki> which will appear as your username when saved. Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons does not accept images violating copyright of others due to legal reasons (see image policy [[WP:IMAGEPOL]]). The above mentioned image is copyright of someone else so we can not upload here. You can post images taken by yourself as they are your own copyright. ''Freely available'' does not mean ''Freely licensed''. Everything on the internet is copyrighted unless clearly mentioned about free license. So please do not upload that image. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and repeat offenders are banned. Please do read [[WP:IMAGEPOL]]. Hope it clarifies. Feel free to ask any question. -[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 17:21, 7 January 2021 (UTC) |
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==Hi.. (personal question)== |
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Where do you stay? I stay at around tardeo Mumbai... |
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:{{ping|Rishabh.rsd}} Well, it is not a good place to reveal my personal information. Most Wikipedians do not reveal much about their personal lives. Though I can tell you that I am interested in [[Gujarat]] and [[Gujarati culture]]. I am familiar with and interested in [[Jainism]] topics as well. Feel free to collaborate with me or ask for help/advice. Wikipedia have plenty of places where help are available. Do read guidelines and policies or at least give them some cursory glance so you can learn. I will be happy to help. Regards,-[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 17:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Regarding Niruben Amin Page == |
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I am approaching you with regards to a few statements noticed in the Early Life section of Niruben Amin page. Regarding two statements that say, “She was married but later separated from her husband” and “During her final college year, her husband died under suspicion of suicide,” I had talked with the author (Peter Flugel) of the academic source provided for these statements. I had recently e-mailed him asking to change or remove them from his scholarly works in good faith, as they seem to be against her real-life story. |
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Well, he has replied that he will consider doing so in future publications. He cannot do anything about old publications, perhaps as that needs republishing, which is a time-consuming affair. So, can you consider removing these two statements from her page? Can the due and undue weight policy of Wikipedia, specifying that a viewpoint held by small minority even if proved is considered non-substantial, be applied here?[[User:Dipalig|Dipalig]] ([[User talk:Dipalig|talk]]) 10:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Dipalig}}, thank you for contacting me. These two sentences does not fall under undue weight policy because it is not about viewpoints. Flugel had told you that he will "consider" your opinion but has not accepted it or have not published it either. We can not cite such conversation as a reference. You had only asked him to {{tq|to change or remove them from his scholarly works in "good faith", as they seem to be "against her real-life story."}} I don't understand why did you asked him to remove it in "good faith". Are two sentences which you have mentioned true? [[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 14:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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::Really appreciate your prompt reply. However, I wish to inform you that you have misunderstood what I am trying to say. ‘In good faith’, here, means without accusing the author of his work (being humane) while convincing him to have faith in what I was telling him about Niruma’s life incidents and their impact on the followers. It is not humane to hurt the author’s work sentiments in order to convince him. While conveying to the author, I did not want to blame or accuse him, which means keeping good faith in him that he will understand my talks. Yes, we cannot cite such conversation as reference. However, I am sharing it with you only for your reference, as you have been reverting the removal of these sentences quite frequently by stating that the source is academic. I have also stated that the author shared his consent to consider not adding such statements in future publications. It is obvious that he will not go ahead and take the pain of removing from his existing works. So, if the author has understood and is willing to not use such statements in future publications, then why should we spread something non-substantial about a spiritual lady who is popular even after leaving the mortal body? So, I had requested you to consider removing ONLY those statements from Wiki page, nothing else! [[User:Dipalig|Dipalig]] ([[User talk:Dipalig|talk]]) 15:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::You have not answered my last question. Are these two sentences true? Please keep your answer short and clear. [[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 16:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::: Those two statements are not true.[[User:Dipalig|Dipalig]] ([[User talk:Dipalig|talk]]) 17:18, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::How do you know that these two statements are not true? Any sources or references? -[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 03:04, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::: Ask anybody else who know the lady and you will not get these statements. This is mass view that these statements are not true. It is only Flugel Peter who is conveying these statements due to which we tried to approach him. Nowhere else you will find these statements made by anyone else (online and offline sources). It is true that we do not have any source that Wiki believes to be reliable. So, what can be done now?[[User:Dipalig|Dipalig]] ([[User talk:Dipalig|talk]]) 06:35, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::: Mass view/belief can not be taken as an evidence of truth. Flugel had researched the topic and he may have unearthed facts which are unknown to people or are not believed as true by masses. This is what a good scholar do. Has Flugel accepted that these statements are false and he made up himself? He can retract these statements as a falsehood. I don't find that he ever accepted these as falsehood in an email communication with you. Without any reference which prove these statements are false or Flugel retracts them in his original publication, we should not remove these sentences just because these are not a mass belief. According to [[WP:CENSOR]], Wikipedia is not censored. I hope it clarifies.-[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 07:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::: I have emailed Flugel and awaiting his reply. -[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 07:42, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::See [[Talk:Niruben Amin#Husband death]]. I have removed the text for now. He told me that there is no counter-evidence for it. But he suggested me to remove it "to prevent further aggravation and email traffic." So I have removed it. Please note that other editors may feel otherwise and can reinstate it. I have left note on Talkpage. I want clarify that he has not accepted those sentences as "false". So according to him, these are true. Regards, [[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 13:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thank you Nizil Shah for considering this case. I am also grateful to the author. However, I just want to bring to your notice that of the two statements for which the issue was raised, only the one related to suicide has been removed. The other statement, {{tq|She was married.}}, is still there. Further your rephrasing still retain the meaning that she was married.[[User:Dipalig|Dipalig]] ([[User talk:Dipalig|talk]]) 14:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::::Was she not married? Is it false? -[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah#top|talk]]) 17:43, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Yes, she was not married. |
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