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== Death ==
== Error on page. Suggested change. by [[User:KirkJTorrance|KirkJTorrance]] ([[User talk:KirkJTorrance|talk]]) updated 19:10, 10 November 2013 (UTC) ==

The following paragraph has incorrect statements and is copied from David Torrance's book, "Salmond Against the Odds". The errors in the hardback, were corrected in the paperback edition of the book.

The paragraph in question is:

Salmond attended the local Linlithgow Academy 1966-1972. He studied at Edinburgh College of Commerce 1972-1973, gaining an HNC in Business Studies,[9] and was then accepted by the University of St Andrews, where he studied Economics and Medieval History. During his time at St Andrews, Salmond lived in St Salvator's Hall. He was elected as Vice-President (Education) of the Students' Representative Council in 1977 and was also nominated to join St Andrews Community Council that year.[10] Salmond graduated with a 2:2 Joint Honours MA in Economics and Medieval History in May 1978.[10][11]

I'd suggest the following to correct the inaccuracies:

Salmond attended Linlithgow Academy 1966-1972. He studied at Edinburgh College of Commerce 1972-1973 [8] and was then accepted by the University of St Andrews, from where he graduated with a joint honours MA in Economics and Medieval History in May 1978. During his time at St Andrews, Salmond lived in St Salvator's Hall. He was elected as Vice-President (Education) of the Students’ Representative Council in 1977 and was also nominated to join St Andrews Community Council that year.[9]

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Alex Salmond has died. [[Special:Contributions/82.0.26.250|82.0.26.250]] ([[User talk:82.0.26.250|talk]]) 16:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
*{{cite news|first=Glenn |last=Campbell |url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-30011421 |title=The transition from Alex Salmond to Nicola Sturgeon |work=BBC News |publisher=BBC |date=13 November 2014 |accessdate=15 November 2014}}
*{{cite news|first=Andrew |last=Black |url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28835771 |title=A brief history of Alex Salmond |publisher=BBC |work=BBC News |date=13 November 2014 |accessdate=15 November 2014}}
*{{cite news|first=Andrew |last=Black |url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20181669 |title=Who have been Scotland's first ministers? |publisher=BBC |work=BBC News |date=13 November 2014 |accessdate=15 November 2014}}


== What "international Conference" took place in North Macedonia? ==
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I heard it had something to do with Aleister Crowley... [[Special:Contributions/2A02:908:1578:7780:79C5:E837:B3E4:C1DE|2A02:908:1578:7780:79C5:E837:B3E4:C1DE]] ([[User talk:2A02:908:1578:7780:79C5:E837:B3E4:C1DE|talk]]) 17:51, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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:It's sourced now, it was a [[Occam's razor|conference for young leaders, run by a former prime minister of said country]]. Where did you hear that it had to do with an occultist who died 77 years ago? [[User:Unknown Temptation|Unknown Temptation]] ([[User talk:Unknown Temptation|talk]]) 22:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
== "Not proven" verdict ==


==Occasion==
Scots law is different from many other common-law jurisdiction in having "[[not proven]]" as an outcome. One of the charges against him had this verdict. Given this, is it right to say that he has been "cleared" of '''all''' charges? It suggests that the jury saw some evidence of guilt. [[User:Epa101|Epa101]] ([[User talk:Epa101|talk]]) 22:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Locked before simple spelling errors corrected. RIP. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/240F:CA:2CE5:1:D00B:6E69:2A3F:93A5|240F:CA:2CE5:1:D00B:6E69:2A3F:93A5]] ([[User talk:240F:CA:2CE5:1:D00B:6E69:2A3F:93A5#top|talk]]) 23:41, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Legally, not proven is an acquittal. We could change 'cleared' to 'acquitted', but a quick look at other sources show both /either being used, so I see no difference. The next sentence gives the full breakdown of the verdicts, so nothing's hidden. [[User:EddieHugh|EddieHugh]] ([[User talk:EddieHugh|talk]]) 14:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2024 ==
== 2021 events ==


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The current article stops in March 2020, but obviously there has been a huge amount of media coverage about Salmond and the Scottish Parliamentary inquiry. Shouldn't we have some paragraphs on that, or am I missing something? [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 12:27, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Occasions not ocassions (4th line)! [[Special:Contributions/146.198.134.155|146.198.134.155]] ([[User talk:146.198.134.155|talk]]) 00:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
:There should be, and there should be more on the Sturgeon article, too. There was a legal case, which rightly made people less likely to post, but that's over and things have moved on considerably. [[User:EddieHugh|EddieHugh]] ([[User talk:EddieHugh|talk]]) 14:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:Done - surprised this wasn't spotted earlier. [[User:PatGallacher|PatGallacher]] ([[User talk:PatGallacher|talk]]) 00:47, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
::Should we create [[Committee on the Scottish Government Handling of Harassment Complaints]], have most content there, then summaries for this article, the Sturgeon article and the SNP article? [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 16:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:::If you have the energy for a stand-alone article.... This might fizzle out, or it might be Sturgeon who's out. Summaries in existing articles is probably enough for now. [[User:EddieHugh|EddieHugh]] ([[User talk:EddieHugh|talk]]) 18:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::::I've done an initial couple of paragraphs, but plenty more detail could be included. Others, please develop. [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 09:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2021 ==
== Inclusion of pejorative remarks by STV News? ==


In the section on Salmond's untimely demise, STV News is quoted as calling him "one of the biggest figures in modern Scottish politics". STV News is infamous for being one of Salmond's fiercest detractors, and this remark strikes me as a snide jibe at his lifelong struggle with morbid obesity. This quotation should be removed, lest it sully Salmond's legacy. He should be remembered for what he was - a capable but handsy politician who lost a landmark referendum on Scottish independence. [[User:Flusapochterasumesch|Flusapochterasumesch]] ([[User talk:Flusapochterasumesch|talk]]) 00:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
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Include ‘Leader of Alba Scotland’ above ‘First Minister of Scotland’. [[Special:Contributions/82.23.11.195|82.23.11.195]] ([[User talk:82.23.11.195|talk]]) 15:07, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
:That comment does not seem to me to be a jibe about his weight. I don’t see a problem with it. [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 09:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
:Agree with Bondegezou. I know nothing of STV's alleged leanings (as a UK broadcaster it should have none) but I can't see this as a statement on anything but his prominence. Short and slim people are also referred to as "biggest figures" in their fields; the members of Oasis, Nirvana and Radiohead are hardly fat. [https://metro.co.uk/2024/05/03/7-iconic-musicians-hated-biggest-hit-singles-20769547/] As an aside, I never thought of Salmond as particularly fat for a 21st-century Western man, definitely not "morbidly obese". [[User:Unknown Temptation|Unknown Temptation]] ([[User talk:Unknown Temptation|talk]]) 19:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{Done}} [[User:FollowTheTortoise|FollowTheTortoise]] ([[User talk:FollowTheTortoise|talk]]) 15:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:15, 28 December 2024

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Alex Salmond has died. 82.0.26.250 (talk) 16:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What "international Conference" took place in North Macedonia?

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I heard it had something to do with Aleister Crowley... 2A02:908:1578:7780:79C5:E837:B3E4:C1DE (talk) 17:51, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's sourced now, it was a conference for young leaders, run by a former prime minister of said country. Where did you hear that it had to do with an occultist who died 77 years ago? Unknown Temptation (talk) 22:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Locked before simple spelling errors corrected. RIP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 240F:CA:2CE5:1:D00B:6E69:2A3F:93A5 (talk) 23:41, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2024

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Occasions not ocassions (4th line)! 146.198.134.155 (talk) 00:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done - surprised this wasn't spotted earlier. PatGallacher (talk) 00:47, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of pejorative remarks by STV News?

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In the section on Salmond's untimely demise, STV News is quoted as calling him "one of the biggest figures in modern Scottish politics". STV News is infamous for being one of Salmond's fiercest detractors, and this remark strikes me as a snide jibe at his lifelong struggle with morbid obesity. This quotation should be removed, lest it sully Salmond's legacy. He should be remembered for what he was - a capable but handsy politician who lost a landmark referendum on Scottish independence. Flusapochterasumesch (talk) 00:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That comment does not seem to me to be a jibe about his weight. I don’t see a problem with it. Bondegezou (talk) 09:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Bondegezou. I know nothing of STV's alleged leanings (as a UK broadcaster it should have none) but I can't see this as a statement on anything but his prominence. Short and slim people are also referred to as "biggest figures" in their fields; the members of Oasis, Nirvana and Radiohead are hardly fat. [1] As an aside, I never thought of Salmond as particularly fat for a 21st-century Western man, definitely not "morbidly obese". Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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