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==General Information Discussion== |
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I removed the reference to [[Megami Tensei]] as Atlus' "most famous" franchise since I'm skeptical that it's more famous than [[Double Dragon]]. It may be so in Japan but I doubt it is in English-speaking countries -- that is to say, among the English Wikipedia's audience. A look at the level of detail in the franchises' respective English Wikipedia articles seems to support that theory, but anyone with evidence to the contrary should of course present it here and edit the article accordingly. |
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{{ping|Dissident93}} Re [[Special:Diff/951851646]]: yes, the links were broken. A target of the form A#B takes the reader to page A (and to section B within it, if that exists). I can understand the argument that the first link is not broken, as someone has kindly put up a redirect sending the reader to (a non-existent section of) the right page as a workaround, but the other three simply lead to the wrong article. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 12:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC) |
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I also changed the use of bold and italics in the article as follows: bold for the first occurrence of the article's title in its body, italics for the titles of specific video games, and mere capitalization for the names of franchises and companies. The first two standards are supported by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Article_names] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_%28titles%29], but the decision about franchises is an arbitrary one. [[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 15:04, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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*When I first created the redirects I could have sworn they redirected properly. But it seems they must be piped to avoid this (for now anyway). ~ [[User:Dissident93|<b style="color: #660000;">''Dissident93''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:Dissident93|<b style="color: #D18719;">''talk''</b>]])</sup> 21:13, 19 April 2020 (UTC) |
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:I believe you are correct that MegaTen isn't the most popular or well known in the US, but it should be noted that they often use Jack Frost (a character from the MegaTen series) as a mascot.--[[User:Dustinasby|Dustin Asby]] 23:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC) |
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::Megami Tensei is the most famous "in-house" developed game. That is just fact, no other Atlus developed series comes close. While Double Dragon Advance was released in America by Atlus, They did not develop the title [[Million corp.]] did. The Megami Tensei section should stay.[[User:Zippedpinhead|Zippedpinhead]] 13:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Proposed merge of [[Atlus USA]] into [[Atlus]] == |
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==Quality of Article== |
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I don't understand the reasoning behind the games lising on this page. It's not chronological or alphabetical by system. Also, I added Atlus's [[Virtual Boy]] game ''[[Jack Bros.]]'' which makes me think this list need a disclaimer stating its incompleteness.--[[User:Dustinasby|Dustin Asby]] 23:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC) |
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Fails [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:NCORP]]. [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlus USA]] frankly should have been closed as merge/redirect, as none of the Keep !votes could provide or point to suitable sourcing that would satisfy the guidelines. The only source thus far identified is the GameInformer article. I plan to redirect the article in seven days, unless new in-depth sourcing that is independent and specific to Atlus USA is dug up. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:Dustin, It wasn't out of order until recently. When I first came across the list it was in alphabetical order by name of console. I've adjusted the recent changes to that order. I agree that a disclaimer regarding incompleteness should be added. I'd been meaning to add Jack Bros. for a while now.--[[User:Sallizar|Sallizar]] 17:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''' ~ [[User:Dissident93|<b style="color: #660000;">''Dissident93''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:Dissident93|<b style="color: #D18719;">''talk''</b>]])</sup> 22:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::I added a PlayStation portable section, along with their first title released on said system.[[User:Zippedpinhead|Zippedpinhead]] 21:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''': I never quite understand why this gets a standalone article (it is essentially the western offices of a Japanese publisher). Stuff about localization can go to the main publisher page. [[User:OceanHok|OceanHok]] ([[User talk:OceanHok|talk]]) 03:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Redirected. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 02:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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==Ogre Battle:MotBQ for SNES== |
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I was under the impression that this title was published by Enix. Should it be removed?--[[User:Sallizar|Sallizar]] 17:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:[[Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen|It]] was developed by [[Quest]] and released through [[Enix]] in North America. I'm unsure who the [[Super Nintendo Entertainment System|Super Famicom]] publisher was. [[Atlus]] rereleased the game for the [[PlayStation]] in 1997. I made the changes to this entry, but I havn't checked related articles.--[[User:Dustinasby|Dustin Asby]] 21:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC) |
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==Games published section== |
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I'm a bit confused about this section, were all these games even published by Atlus USA? Also, the article does also talk about the main company in Japan, shouldn't we highlight the games they developed somehow? |
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== Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney == |
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That was developed *and* published by Capcom, so I took it off and ended the first part with "The Trauma Center series." |
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== No mention of DonPachi+DoDonPachi?: == |
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because they were involved in its publication or something, you know. their name appears in the attract mode for the arcade versions of those games. it must mean something. -[[User:70.160.166.121|70.160.166.121]] 16:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC) |
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oh yeah and esprade and guwange too. |
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-[[User:70.160.166.121|70.160.166.121]] 07:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Splitting up Atlus and Atlus USA? == |
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The article does not differentiate between Atlus and Atlus USA very well, instead alternating between the two in a confusing manner. For example, Tactics Ogre and Megami Tensei are mentioned in the same sentence, even though Tactics Ogre was not developed by Atlus Japan and most Megami Tensei games have not been translated by Atlus USA, meaning that the two series share nothing in common. Why not split them up into two sections, or better yet, two wikipedia articles? Atlus and Atlus USA are almost completely different companies - there are many Atlus games not translated by Atlus USA, and many Atlus USA games that were not made by Atlus. |
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[[User:Stephen986|Stephen986]] 08:01, 7 March 2007 (UTC) |
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splitting them up into two separate sections isnt a bad idea. [[User:Evaunit666|Evaunit666]] 01:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC) |
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They were orginally two seperate sections, but certain other people thought it would be best to have them combined into one article. The school of thought being that ATLUS USA is ATLUS for America and the better portion of all english speaker/readers. If this article had an equally long section about ATLUS Japan then it would make sense to split them up. [[User:Zippedpinhead|Zippedpinhead]] 02:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC) |
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For the long list of games part, is it just atlus USA games, or both USA and JAPAN? Even if theres only one article, both groups should be represented. Ive added games from both groups to the list (since the page is ATLUS, not atlus usa) and i think it might be useful if we put a japanese label next to the japanese games. [[User:Evaunit666|Evaunit666]] 00:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Erase SMT info or make a section with his games == |
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I think it's excesive the info about ''[[Shin Megami Tensei]]'' series, since its very extensive and it's about Atlus as company, not about this series. And if this series is famous, what about ''[[Power Instinct]]'' series, not mentioned here?? I think it should be a section about famous Atlus game series instead using the first part of this article only refered to SMT series. Is that or simply erase SMT info and just talk about the company. [[User:Basara-kun|Basara-kun]] 05:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC) |
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Does anyone know a lot about the actual company, not just the games? [[User:Evaunit666|Evaunit666]] 00:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Removing unsourced statements == |
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A few seconds ago, I removed a large chunk of information from this article. This was because of the lack of sources - please get sources before adding them back in. Some of these statements were also written from a very specific (game player in the niche is this company operates in) point of view, making them not only unsourced, but also bad for the article. Furthermore, some of the claims were dubious. [[User:Krator]] ([[User talk:Krator|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Krator|c]]) 22:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Jack Frost merge == |
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[[Jack Frost (mascot)]] should probably be merged here. It's a short article, and I don't think there's much room for expansion. '''[[User:Pagrashtak|<span style="color:#8855DD;">Pagra</span>]][[User talk:Pagrashtak|<span style="color:#6666AA;">shtak</span>]]''' 17:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:I say go for it. [[User:Evaunit666|<b style="color:#fd8af6;">Evaunit</b>]][[User talk:Evaunit666|<span style="color:#fd8af6;">♥666♥</span>]] 03:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::Merged. '''[[User:Pagrashtak|<span style="color:#8855DD;">Pagra</span>]][[User talk:Pagrashtak|<span style="color:#6666AA;">shtak</span>]]''' 18:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC) |
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== Could use info on their publishing strategy == |
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IE: How minimum numbers published equals easier though much smaller profits, and fan buzz through scarcity. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.74.198.219|70.74.198.219]] ([[User talk:70.74.198.219|talk]]) 01:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Gamasutra had an interview with Atlus in which this was stated. Look there for your references. [[User:DrSturm|DrSturm]] ([[User talk:DrSturm|talk]]) 02:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::can you find a link? [[User:Evaunit666|<b style="color:#fd8af6;">Evaunit</b>]][[User talk:Evaunit666|<span style="color:#fd8af6;">♥666♥</span>]] 03:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC) |
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== Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard == |
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Why has this article not been made? I mean Atlus is making this game and its due date is June 17th or so, so why doesn't the game have an article yet? All that's really mentioned is in the sequel section of the Etrian Odyssey article. [[User:Kiminatheguardian|Kiminatheguardian]] ([[User talk:Kiminatheguardian|talk]]) 23:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:Be bold and create one yourself : ] im here if you need any help. [[User:Evaunit666|<b style="color:#fd8af6;">Evaunit</b>]][[User talk:Evaunit666|<span style="color:#fd8af6;">♥666♥</span>]] 01:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::But, I'm not sure really where I'd begin... *pokes fingers together* [[User:Kiminatheguardian|Kiminatheguardian]] ([[User talk:Kiminatheguardian|talk]]) 20:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:: I've never created an article on my own, you see. But yeah... someone's going to need to start it eventually. It's coming out in June. [[User:Kiminatheguardian|Kiminatheguardian]] ([[User talk:Kiminatheguardian|talk]]) 12:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:::[[Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard]] there you go : ) sorry that took awhile. [[User:Evaunit666|<b style="color:#fd8af6;">Evaunit</b>]][[User talk:Evaunit666|<span style="color:#fd8af6;">♥666♥</span>]] 00:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Atlus in the credits of Sting's last game == |
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Reference here: [http://leyviur.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=2810&view=findpost&p=64479] --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] ([[User talk:Raijinili|talk]]) 06:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== US Flag next to Index Holdings == |
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Any sources to confirm this? |
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[[Index Holdings]] article mentions that it is headquartered in Japan not the US and so does their official website http://www.index-hd.com/english/company/index.html |
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I'm going to remove US Flag and replace it with Japan's Flag. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.147.0.109|89.147.0.109]] ([[User talk:89.147.0.109|talk]]) 10:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Atlus USA it's separated entities... --[[User:Aldnonymous|Ald™]] [[User_talk:Aldnonymous|¬_¬™]] 01:28, 25 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== "Dozens" == |
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''"It is known for developing the role-playing series Shin Megami Tensei which, counting spin-offs, has dozens of installments." |
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Anyone else feel that this reads very strange? If there's a list of Megami Tensei games, why not give a specific number? |
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(Although there is in fact two dozen Shin Megami Tensei games listed) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.243.128.148|99.243.128.148]] ([[User talk:99.243.128.148|talk]]) 06:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== [[List of Atlus games]] == |
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Brandnew list made by [[User:Sillent DX|Sillent DX]] ([[User talk:Sillent DX|talk]]). |
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:The old list: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_Atlus_games&diff=454828898&oldid=452383364 ... If some game from the old list is not included in the new list, just add it. --[[User:Hydao|Hydao]] ([[User talk:Hydao|talk]]) 15:11, 10 October 2011 (UTC) |
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== Atlus sales 2011 == |
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http://andriasang.com/comyog/ [[User:Axem Titanium|Axem Titanium]] ([[User talk:Axem Titanium|talk]]) 19:54, 25 October 2011 (UTC) |
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== History section is a joke == |
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So a company founded in 86 has no history prior to be bought by Takara in 2003? Someone who knows please expand on the company's actual history.[[Special:Contributions/68.51.193.141|68.51.193.141]] ([[User talk:68.51.193.141|talk]]) 19:49, 11 January 2016 (UTC) |
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== What is Atlus's standpoint on PC gaming? == |
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A good number of people I know adore games made by Atlus, but it's very rare to hear of a PC version of one of their games- |
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Like Catherine for instance, despite being wildly popular among video game fans as of late. |
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Would someone perhaps be willing or able to provide information to the article on what Atlus's plans are for more PC friendly games? |
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:If you find an article about Atlus' plans for PC, then yes, we can use that as a source and write a bit about it. I can't really find anything about it, though.--[[User:IDV|IDV]]<sup>[[User talk:IDV|talk]]</sup> 12:23, 8 February 2016 (UTC) |
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{{ping|Dissident93}} Re [[Special:Diff/951851646]]: yes, the links were broken. A target of the form A#B takes the reader to page A (and to section B within it, if that exists). I can understand the argument that the first link is not broken, as someone has kindly put up a redirect sending the reader to (a non-existent section of) the right page as a workaround, but the other three simply lead to the wrong article. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 12:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC) |
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*When I first created the redirects I could have sworn they redirected properly. But it seems they must be piped to avoid this (for now anyway). ~ [[User:Dissident93|<b style="color: #660000;">''Dissident93''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:Dissident93|<b style="color: #D18719;">''talk''</b>]])</sup> 21:13, 19 April 2020 (UTC) |
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[edit]@Dissident93: Re Special:Diff/951851646: yes, the links were broken. A target of the form A#B takes the reader to page A (and to section B within it, if that exists). I can understand the argument that the first link is not broken, as someone has kindly put up a redirect sending the reader to (a non-existent section of) the right page as a workaround, but the other three simply lead to the wrong article. Certes (talk) 12:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- When I first created the redirects I could have sworn they redirected properly. But it seems they must be piped to avoid this (for now anyway). ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:13, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlus USA frankly should have been closed as merge/redirect, as none of the Keep !votes could provide or point to suitable sourcing that would satisfy the guidelines. The only source thus far identified is the GameInformer article. I plan to redirect the article in seven days, unless new in-depth sourcing that is independent and specific to Atlus USA is dug up. -- ferret (talk) 21:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support ~ Dissident93 (talk) 22:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support: I never quite understand why this gets a standalone article (it is essentially the western offices of a Japanese publisher). Stuff about localization can go to the main publisher page. OceanHok (talk) 03:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Redirected. -- ferret (talk) 02:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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