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== External links modified (January 2018) == |
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*Added archive https://archive.is/20120904080101/http://www.massageregister.com/western-massage/swedish-massage to http://www.massageregister.com/western-massage/swedish-massage |
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Cheers.—[[User:InternetArchiveBot|'''<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">InternetArchiveBot</span>''']] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">([[User talk:InternetArchiveBot|Report bug]])</span> 02:58, 21 January 2018 (UTC) |
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== China == |
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I removed the entirely unsourced section on China and rewrote it. The RS I could conveniently find on the subject were a bit dry and industry related and also put a heavy focus on links with the sex trade. I welcome the addition of some information on the underlying traditions. If anyone could suggest some sources for this it would be appreciated. Online searches mostly link to commercial sites, which I’m reluctant to use. One source I would like is one that states that Chinese massage parlors often offer Chinese traditional medical treatments such as cupping. [[User:Edaham|Edaham]] ([[User talk:Edaham|talk]]) 23:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2019 == |
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Citation #25 is out of date; Alaska was forced to license in 2015 https://careertrend.com/list-6537675-states-not-require-massage-license.html As of 2014 there were 6, Kansas, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Vermont and Wyoming plus Alaska, but since then Alaska has required licensing. Serveral other sites colaborate with them https://www.google.com/search?q=what+states+do+not+require+a+license+to+massage&oq=what+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60l4j69i65.2222j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 & some have which have to have insurance to practice, if the state monitors for prostitution, and other things. [[User:Unicornsmom|Unicornsmom]] ([[User talk:Unicornsmom|talk]]) 03:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> [https://www.abmp.com/abmp-blog/what-you-need-know-about-government-regulation-massage-and-bodywork] Kansas, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Vermont, and Wyoming do not have state regulation. California has voluntary certification. 5+1=6. [[User:NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:black">Nici</b>]][[User talk:NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:purple">Vampire</b>]][[Special:Contributions/NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:black">Heart</b>]] 23:33, 27 April 2019 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2019 == |
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Citation #57 Reflexology is a pseudoscience isn't true. By stimulation of nerves in hand/foot other non-direct location it has an effect on the connected nerve bundle along the way. TENS Units have their electrode pads placed on such positions to help with chronic or acute issues. Example: zapping a nerve near the achilles heel & ankle to help with incontances. I understand that it is difficult for some to believe stimulating the nerves between thumb and index finger can run up the arm & where it connects into the spine, have an effect that goes along the neck into the dental area alleviating pain; or massaging a location in the wrist/forearm area can result in less nausea or vomiting then ginger or medications; but repeatedly it has been found not just in traditional USA medical practice to be valid, but world round. |
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The sights below all believe that reflexology is real, based on scientific facts, are an ancient form of healing, and help a person's overall wellness. There are more, but I thought I'd start with the basics to cover my point. |
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https://www.webmd.com/balance/qa/what-is-reflexology-massage |
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https://www.massageenvy.com/massage/massage-types/reflexology-massage/ |
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https colon slash slash www dot Very Well Health dot com slash reflexology-what-you-need-to-know-89995 |
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https://www.spafinder.com/blog/health-and-well-being/reflexology-101-treatment-benefits/ |
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https://www.angieslist.com/articles/what-difference-between-reflexology-and-massage.htm |
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It has been in recent years we've seen how weather (SADS), magnetic forces (both from the earth itself and wearing a loadstone), certain metals(copper & nickel), and other forces of nature (like hemp or certain mushrooms have medicinal properties, while hemlock hurts most a tolerance can be built to it, & poison oak/ivy/sumac aren't pleasant for most people) can affect, effect, defect, and improve health in a person that were previously thought to be pseudoscience or "magic". The art of healing will always be changing, hopefully for the better & most natural. [[User:Unicornsmom|Unicornsmom]] ([[User talk:Unicornsmom|talk]]) 05:50, 18 April 2019 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> Please see [[WP:MEDRS]], the much stricter guideline for sources related to medical topics. None of these websites meet even normal reliable source criteria much less MEDRS, with the exception perhaps of webmd, which quite telling uses the terms "believed" and "expected" on the linked page. Have a gander at [[reflexology]] [[User:Cannolis|Cannolis]] ([[User talk:Cannolis|talk]]) 15:31, 18 April 2019 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2019 == |
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Many cars offer massage seats including many luxury cars |
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https://www.carmax.com/cars/seat-massagers |
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15119670/seat-massager-showdown-2012-jaguar-xjl-supersport-vs-2012-mercedes-benz-cl550-2012-audi-a8l-comparison-tests/ |
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https://www.carthrottle.com/post/heres-whats-inside-one-of-mercedes-complex-massage-seats/ |
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https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying-guides/features/10-vehicles-with-massage-seats-130517/ [[User:Xpartz|Xpartz]] ([[User talk:Xpartz|talk]]) 10:07, 4 May 2019 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 20:37, 4 May 2019 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2019 == |
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This article I am found References section 64 number - "Swedish Massage". Massagereister.com. Archived(https://archive.is/20120904080101/http://www.massageregister.com/western-massage/swedish-massage ) from the original --> ( http://www.massageregister.com/western-massage/swedish-massage) on 4 September 2012. Retrieved 18 October 2013. here - I am suggesting better new relevant content source link --> https://www.massagespaindia.com/blog/swedish-massage/ kindly update by checking my edit request. Thanks, I will be suggesting also other better new sources on another topic. I love to contribute to Wikipedia. [[User:Aadu2019|Aadu2019]] ([[User talk:Aadu2019|talk]]) 11:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Thank you for your interest in contributing to wikipedia, however blogs do not meet our criteria for [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. [[User:NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:black">Nici</b>]][[User talk:NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:purple">Vampire</b>]][[Special:Contributions/NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:black">Heart</b>]] 13:57, 16 June 2019 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2019 == |
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Hi contributor, |
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I read your article and found lots of information about the massage. Its a very helpful to the users but when I was clicked on the reference 65 and open |
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the reference page URL but that page was not relevant. I have a better fit for that reference hope you will read that and will add this as reference page. |
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Current Reference URL. "Swedish Massage". Massagereister.com. Archived from the original on 4 September 2012. Retrieved 18 October 2013. |
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Suggested page for this https://www.massagetherapyschoolsinformation.com/swedish-massage/ Mohammad.shaan3 (talk) 06:47, 23 August 2019 (UTC) [[User:Mohammad.shaan3|Mohammad.shaan3]] ([[User talk:Mohammad.shaan3|talk]]) 09:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC) |
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== Korean Massage == |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The suggested page is refspam and is not suitable for use as a reference in Wikipedia. [[User:Wham2001|Wham2001]] ([[User talk:Wham2001|talk]]) 10:05, 23 August 2019 (UTC) |
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Korean massage is a type of therapeutic massage that incorporates various techniques such as acupressure, deep tissue massage, and stretching. It focuses on increasing circulation, releasing tension in muscles and joints, and promoting overall relaxation and well-being. Korean massage may also incorporate the use of hot stones, herbal remedies, and other traditional Korean healing techniques. It is often performed on a mat on the floor and may involve the therapist using their feet, knees, and elbows in addition to their hands. Overall, Korean massage can be a deeply relaxing and rejuvenating experience for both the body and mind. |
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== Medical and therapeutic use: non-relevant subsections -- suggest removal == |
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[[User:Hayyan767|Hayyan767]] ([[User talk:Hayyan767|talk]]) 13:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:The link is to an ad for a particular massage service, and hardly a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 21:05, 27 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Question regarding "specific area of massage" subsection. == |
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This section currently includes three subsections that do not relate to the section itself. They are filler and should be removed. They might even suggest a need for 'non-therapeutic' or 'other' section. |
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There are six examples provided. All six are focused on the genitals and/or anus. Surely there exists specific focal massages that don't exclusively involve the funniest bits of the human anatomy. Anyone else feel like getting the balls rolling? [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:C2A0:87E0:498A:ABB4:A835:203E|2607:FEA8:C2A0:87E0:498A:ABB4:A835:203E]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:C2A0:87E0:498A:ABB4:A835:203E|talk]]) 22:55, 29 June 2023 (UTC) |
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''Practitioner associations and official recognition of professionals'' is not related to the section and, furthermore, the content isn't even relevant to the subsection heading itself. |
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:I agree - this section feels unhelpful as a whole, I would vote to remove the entire section rather than add additional "specific areas." [[User:Williaal91|Williaal91]] ([[User talk:Williaal91|talk]]) 19:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC) |
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''Associated methods'' lists various methods but there is no association to medical/therapeutic use. |
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== 'History' section formatting & content == |
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''Massage and proprioception'' is about a) how massage and proprioception are not associated and b) the association has been studied very little and c) increasing proprioception has not even been shown to be therapeutic. [[User:Arbalest Mike|Arbalest Mike]] ([[User talk:Arbalest Mike|talk]]) 18:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC) |
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The format of the history section stands out as non-Wikipedia-like to me; it should either be turned into a timeline or rewritten as prose. There are also some weird choices for events to highlight -- why is the birth of Pehr Henrik Ling mentioned? Why is there a tangent about the translation of Galen's manuscripts and Avicenna (described beyond their relationship to massage therapy)? The entire "Modern times" subsection does not describe any modern history of massage, instead describing its contemporary use (as opposed to its development). In addition, many of the citations are incorrect, not actually supporting the associated claims. [[User:ARoseThorn|ARoseThorn]] ([[User talk:ARoseThorn|talk]]) 03:02, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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: Done. [[User:Arbalest Mike|Arbalest Mike]] ([[User talk:Arbalest Mike|talk]]) 21:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC) |
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[edit]Korean massage is a type of therapeutic massage that incorporates various techniques such as acupressure, deep tissue massage, and stretching. It focuses on increasing circulation, releasing tension in muscles and joints, and promoting overall relaxation and well-being. Korean massage may also incorporate the use of hot stones, herbal remedies, and other traditional Korean healing techniques. It is often performed on a mat on the floor and may involve the therapist using their feet, knees, and elbows in addition to their hands. Overall, Korean massage can be a deeply relaxing and rejuvenating experience for both the body and mind. Hayyan767 (talk) 13:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- The link is to an ad for a particular massage service, and hardly a reliable source. --Macrakis (talk) 21:05, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Question regarding "specific area of massage" subsection.
[edit]There are six examples provided. All six are focused on the genitals and/or anus. Surely there exists specific focal massages that don't exclusively involve the funniest bits of the human anatomy. Anyone else feel like getting the balls rolling? 2607:FEA8:C2A0:87E0:498A:ABB4:A835:203E (talk) 22:55, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- I agree - this section feels unhelpful as a whole, I would vote to remove the entire section rather than add additional "specific areas." Williaal91 (talk) 19:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
'History' section formatting & content
[edit]The format of the history section stands out as non-Wikipedia-like to me; it should either be turned into a timeline or rewritten as prose. There are also some weird choices for events to highlight -- why is the birth of Pehr Henrik Ling mentioned? Why is there a tangent about the translation of Galen's manuscripts and Avicenna (described beyond their relationship to massage therapy)? The entire "Modern times" subsection does not describe any modern history of massage, instead describing its contemporary use (as opposed to its development). In addition, many of the citations are incorrect, not actually supporting the associated claims. ARoseThorn (talk) 03:02, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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