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The result was '''keep'''. [[User:78.26|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:red; padding:1px;background:1h5h1h; color: #008B8B;"><b>78.26</b></span>]] <sub>([[User talk:78.26|spin me]] / [[Special:Contributions/78.26|revolutions]])</sub> 18:36, 31 January 2022 (UTC) |
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Except being Chief Minister's wife, she has no notability. Her page was created after her husband became Chief Minister. Moreover, being an owner of a local news channel can not make her eligible for Wiki. Requesting higher level to look up the matter. - [[User:Arunudoy|Arunudoy]] ([[User talk:Arunudoy|talk]]) 01:25, 6 January 2022 (UTC) |
Except being Chief Minister's wife, she has no notability. Her page was created after her husband became Chief Minister. Moreover, being an owner of a local news channel can not make her eligible for Wiki. Requesting higher level to look up the matter. - [[User:Arunudoy|Arunudoy]] ([[User talk:Arunudoy|talk]]) 01:25, 6 January 2022 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep''': Sources appear to meet [[WP:BASIC]]. Notability is of course not inherited, but spouses of powerful politicians are often notable for that reason. Plus, there is significant coverage of her outside of her relation to her husband, so it should meet notability on that alone. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2;font-family:Trebuchet MS; font-size:101%">'''''FormalDude'''''</span>]] [[File:Emojione 1F427.svg|18px|link=Special:Contributions/FormalDude]] <sup><span style="border-radius:7em;padding:1.75px 3.25px;background:#005bed;font-size:80%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span></sup> 02:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC) |
* '''Keep''': Sources appear to meet [[WP:BASIC]]. Notability is of course not inherited, but spouses of powerful politicians are often notable for that reason. Plus, there is significant coverage of her outside of her relation to her husband, so it should meet notability on that alone. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2;font-family:Trebuchet MS; font-size:101%">'''''FormalDude'''''</span>]] [[File:Emojione 1F427.svg|18px|link=Special:Contributions/FormalDude]] <sup><span style="border-radius:7em;padding:1.75px 3.25px;background:#005bed;font-size:80%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span></sup> 02:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' The coverage in [[WP:RS]] found above is all focused on corruption ''allegations''. Neither does it appear [[WP:SUSTAINED]] nor can it be covered here due to [[WP:BLPCRIME]] requirement on conviction. The Guwahati Plus source the page currently depends heavily upon, is an interview and hence [[WP:PRIMARY]] (the site does not inspire any confidence about reliability or independence, founder [https://in.linkedin.com/in/sunit-jain-20366878 claims] to be a marketing professional). [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF+%E0%A6%AD%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%81%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE+%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%22+OR+%22Riniki+Bhuyan+Sarma%22+OR+%22Riniki+Bhuyan+Sharma%22+site%3Anewslivetv.com&tbm=nws Her own channel] has nothing that amounts to [[WP:SIGCOV]]. --[[User:Hemantha|Hemantha]] ([[User talk:Hemantha|talk]]) 04:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' The coverage in [[WP:RS]] found above is all focused on corruption ''allegations''. Neither does it appear [[WP:SUSTAINED]] nor can it be covered here due to [[WP:BLPCRIME]] requirement on conviction. The Guwahati Plus source the page currently depends heavily upon, is an interview and hence [[WP:PRIMARY]] (the site does not inspire any confidence about reliability or independence, founder [https://in.linkedin.com/in/sunit-jain-20366878 claims] to be a marketing professional). [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF+%E0%A6%AD%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%81%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE+%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%22+OR+%22Riniki+Bhuyan+Sarma%22+OR+%22Riniki+Bhuyan+Sharma%22+site%3Anewslivetv.com&tbm=nws Her own channel] has nothing that amounts to [[WP:SIGCOV]]. --[[User:Hemantha|Hemantha]] ([[User talk:Hemantha|talk]]) 04:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Weak keep''' per [[WP:BASIC]] - I share {{u|Hemantha}}'s concerns about the focus of many sources, but per [[WP:PUBLICFIGURE]], {{tq|noteworthy, relevant, and well documented}} allegations may be possible to include (some date back to [https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/riniki-quizzed-by-ed-on-saradha-scam/cid/1581210 2015]), and there is biographical and career information reported within as well as in addition to those sources, e.g. [https://www.hindustantimes.com/elections/assam-assembly-election/himanta-was-sure-of-becoming-cm-even-in-his-college-days-says-wife-rinki-bhuyan-101620656482320.html], [https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/himanta-biswa-sarma-from-bjp-s-key-strategist-in-northeast-to-assam-cm-101620586214553.html]. I also agree with {{u|FormalDude}} about [https://rsf.org/en/news/media-ownership-monitor-who-owns-media-india RSF] helping support her independent notability and with {{u|Mujinga}} on the general source assessment. [[User:Beccaynr|Beccaynr]] ([[User talk:Beccaynr|talk]]) 12:51, 26 January 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' passes WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, I see some non-trivial coverage which shows that she is notable in her field. [[User:VocalIndia|VocalIndia]] ([[User talk:VocalIndia|talk]]) 08:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC) |
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The result was keep. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:36, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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Except being Chief Minister's wife, she has no notability. Her page was created after her husband became Chief Minister. Moreover, being an owner of a local news channel can not make her eligible for Wiki. Requesting higher level to look up the matter. - Arunudoy (talk) 01:25, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep: Sources appear to meet WP:BASIC. Notability is of course not inherited, but spouses of powerful politicians are often notable for that reason. Plus, there is significant coverage of her outside of her relation to her husband, so it should meet notability on that alone. ––FormalDude talk 02:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Kindly check the source links. Are those sources? Additionally, whatever coverage you are seeing is linked to her husband only. No coverage without a link to her husband. In addition, she is just Chief Minister's wife, not Prime Minister or Governer or President's wife. All of her business started after her husband became Minister of the state. Political power induced money? --Arunudoy (talk) 03:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think you are mistaken about what counts for notability. Just because a source mentions her husband, does not meet it is not significant for her biography. The majority of these sources include significant coverage about Riniki, and while most do mention her husband, he is not the reason they are talking about Riniki. Multiple sources talk about Riniki for her work in law and politics, and in news media. See [1], [2], [3]. ––FormalDude talk 04:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- FormalDude Link 2 is her own TV channel (you please check). Please check the links properly. You will better get it. :) --Arunudoy (talk) 04:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Link 1 is an article from Reporters Without Borders about her owning a news media station. It is completely usable and counts towards WP:GNG. The third link is dead, my apologies, but please do not believe that automatically means the link is fake. It is real:
- https://www.guwahatiplus.com/guwahati/in-conversation-with-riniki-bhuyan-sarma-entrepreneur-philanthropist-and-media-tycoon-of-northeast ––FormalDude talk 04:16, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- FormalDude , Only 1 source makes her everything? That too local source? Please enlighten me. --Arunudoy (talk) 04:22, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep sources on the article are not great but I can find sigcov in reliable sources for example The Sarma Family and How Govt Land Meant for the Needy Found Its Way to Firm Linked to Assam CM's Family Mujinga (talk) 11:43, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The coverage in WP:RS found above is all focused on corruption allegations. Neither does it appear WP:SUSTAINED nor can it be covered here due to WP:BLPCRIME requirement on conviction. The Guwahati Plus source the page currently depends heavily upon, is an interview and hence WP:PRIMARY (the site does not inspire any confidence about reliability or independence, founder claims to be a marketing professional). Her own channel has nothing that amounts to WP:SIGCOV. --Hemantha (talk) 04:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 13:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep per WP:BASIC - I share Hemantha's concerns about the focus of many sources, but per WP:PUBLICFIGURE,
noteworthy, relevant, and well documented
allegations may be possible to include (some date back to 2015), and there is biographical and career information reported within as well as in addition to those sources, e.g. [4], [5]. I also agree with FormalDude about RSF helping support her independent notability and with Mujinga on the general source assessment. Beccaynr (talk) 12:51, 26 January 2022 (UTC) - Keep passes WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, I see some non-trivial coverage which shows that she is notable in her field. VocalIndia (talk) 08:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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