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== Guild of Copy Editors December 2024 Newsletter ==


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|<span style="font-size: 110%; color: #000000";>'''[[WP:GOCE|Guild of Copy Editors]] December 2024 Newsletter'''</span>


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[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Talk:Statue of Israel Putnam|'''Talk:Statue of Israel Putnam'''&#32; on a "Art and architecture" Good Article nomination]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 07:30, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, and welcome to the December newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since September. If you no longer want this newsletter, you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. If you'd like to be notified of upcoming drives and blitzes, and other GOCE activities, the best method is to add our [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Ombox|announcements box]] to your watchlist.
== Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination ==


'''Election news:''' The Guild's coordinators play an important role in the WikiProject, making sure <s>nearly</s> everything runs smoothly and on time. Editors in good standing (unblocked and without sanctions) are invited to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Coordinators/2025/1|'''nominate themselves or another editor to be a Guild coordinator''']] (with their permission, of course) until 23:59 on 15 December (UTC). The voting phase begins at 00:01 on 16 December and runs until 23:59 on 31 December. Questions may be asked of candidates at any stage in the process. Elected coordinators will serve a six-month term from 1 January through 30 June.
[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Talk:Shadow docket|'''Talk:Shadow docket'''&#32; on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 16:30, 1 January 2022 (UTC)


'''Drive:''' In our [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/September_2024|'''September Backlog Elimination Drive''']], 67 editors signed up, 39 completed at least one copy edit, and between them they edited 682,696 words comprising 507 articles. Barnstars awarded are [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/September_2024/Barnstars|'''here''']].
== Feedback request: Art and architecture Good Article nomination ==


'''Blitz:''' The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/October_2024|'''October Copy Editing Blitz''']] saw 16 editors sign-up, 15 of whom completed at least one copy edit. They edited 76,776 words comprising 35 articles. Barnstars awarded are [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/October_2024/Barnstars|'''here''']].
[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Talk:Ethel Barrymore Theatre|'''Talk:Ethel Barrymore Theatre'''&#32; on a "Art and architecture" Good Article nomination]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 03:30, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


'''Drive:''' In our [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/November_2024|'''November Backlog Elimination Drive''']], 432,320 words in 151 articles were copy edited. Of the 54 users who signed up, 33 copy edited at least one article. Barnstars awarded are posted [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/November_2024/Barnstars|'''here''']].
== Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination ==


'''Blitz:''' The December Blitz will begin at 00:00 on 15 December (UTC) and will end on 21 December at 23:59. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/December_2024#Signing_up|'''Sign up here''']]. Barnstars awarded will be posted [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/December_2024/Barnstars|'''here''']].
[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Talk:Kenneth Lawson|'''Talk:Kenneth Lawson'''&#32; on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 05:31, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


'''Progress report:''' As of 22:12, 7 December 2024 (UTC), GOCE copy editors have completed 333 requests since 1 January, and the backlog of tagged articles stands at 2,401 articles.
== Feedback requests from the Feedback Request Service ==


Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, {{noping|Dhtwiki|Miniapolis|Mox Eden|Wracking}}.
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== ''The Signpost'': 12 December 2024 ==
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[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Talk:Minnesota State Capitol|'''Talk:Minnesota State Capitol''']], &#32; [[Talk:Minnesota State Capitol Mall|'''Talk:Minnesota State Capitol Mall''']] and &#32; [[Talk:Minnesota State Capitol artwork|'''Talk:Minnesota State Capitol artwork''']] on "Art and architecture" Good Article nominations. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 22:31, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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== New pages patrol January 2025 Backlog drive ==
== Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination ==


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== Your [[WP:Good articles|GA]] nomination of [[Long Island iced tea]] ==
The article [[Long Island iced tea]] you nominated as a [[Wikipedia:Good article nominations|good article]] has been placed on hold [[File:Symbol wait.svg|20px|link=]]. The article is close to meeting the [[WP:GA?|good article criteria]], but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See [[Talk:Long Island iced tea]] for issues which need to be addressed. <!-- Template:GANotice result=hold --> <small>Message delivered by [[User:Legobot|Legobot]], on behalf of [[User:HenryCrun15|HenryCrun15]]</small> -- [[User:HenryCrun15|HenryCrun15]] ([[User talk:HenryCrun15|talk]]) 05:01, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

== Your [[WP:Good articles|GA]] nomination of [[Long Island iced tea]] ==
The article [[Long Island iced tea]] you nominated as a [[Wikipedia:Good article nominations|good article]] has failed [[File:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px|link=]]; see [[Talk:Long Island iced tea]] for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. <!-- Template:GANotice result=fail --> <small>Message delivered by [[User:Legobot|Legobot]], on behalf of [[User:HenryCrun15|HenryCrun15]]</small> -- [[User:HenryCrun15|HenryCrun15]] ([[User talk:HenryCrun15|talk]]) 06:01, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

==Thanks for the invite at the pump==

Thanks for the invite at the pump. First, my best attempt at describinbg the big fuzzy wp:notability ecosystem is at [[Wikipedia:How Wikipedia notability works]] A lot of what makes the whole thing so mysteriously complex is trying to reconcile SNG's with GNG. But right now we sort of need the SNG's (except for sports :-). A part of the issue is thaty the SNG's are needed / crutches for / enablers of / prevent solving weaknesses in WP:GNG. Another is discrimination against topics that don't have an SNG. Some enclyclopic ones that don't have an SNG either need one, or an improveent in wp:GNG so that we don't need 50 new SNG's to take care of those. <b style="color: #0000cc;">''North8000''</b> ([[User talk:North8000#top|talk]]) 20:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

== Getting started ==

Can anyone help me editing my user page? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Puppet reel|Puppet reel]] ([[User talk:Puppet reel#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Puppet reel|contribs]]) 16:11, 20 January 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
==Your draft article, [[Draft:Leaders of a Beautiful Struggle]]==
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Hello, A. C. Santacruz. It has been over six months since you last edited the [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]] submission or [[WP:Drafts|Draft]] page you started, "[[Draft:Leaders of a Beautiful Struggle|Leaders of a Beautiful Struggle]]".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia [[WP:mainspace|mainspace]], the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/G13?withJS=MediaWiki:G13-restore-wizard.js&page=Draft%3ALeaders+of+a+Beautiful+Struggle request its undeletion]. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. <!-- Template:Db-draft-deleted --><!-- Template:Db-csd-deleted-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 19:51, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

:Much appreciated, {{u|Liz}}. I should've speedy deleted that a long time ago. [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 19:52, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

== Feedback request: Wikipedia proposals request for comment ==

[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#rfc_BCCFCA5|'''Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)'''&#32; on a "Wikipedia proposals" request for comment]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 22:30, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

== Alt account ==

Hi! I've made this account in case I accidentally log out while out and about, as the password for my main account is stored in a [[KeePassX]] database on my computer. Just thought I'd leave a notice here for any page watchers that might wanna watch my alt account as well. [[User:A.C.S.Alt|A.C.S.Alt]] ([[User talk:A.C.S.Alt|talk]]) 10:19, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

== Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment ==

[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Talk:Devolution in the United Kingdom#rfc_45244BD|'''Talk:Devolution in the United Kingdom'''&#32; on a "Politics, government, and law" request for comment]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 14:30, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

== Help with reviving [[WP:FINANCE|Wikiproject Finance & Investment]] ==

Hi! I'm planning on reviving the Finance WP in the coming months/year and wanted to get some tips or advice from y'all on how to go about doing so or some ideas on things to do first. The areas I feel might need most work in the first few weeks/month are: 1) determining some kind of coordination system for the revival process, 2) determining the big areas the project will need to focus, 3) improve how the wikiproject attracts and retains new editors. Feedback on these areas or guiding WikiProjects in general is much appreciated. Pinging some coordinators of WPs: {{reply to|Peacemaker67|CPA-5|Gog the Mild|Hawkeye7|Hog Farm|Iazyges|Indy beetle|Parsecboy|Vami_IV|Zawed|Reidgreg|Baffle gab1978|Dhtwiki|Miniapolis|Tenryuu|p=.}}[[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 12:10, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
:{{u|A. C. Santacruz}}, I've never had to revive a WikiProject but [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2011-05-16/WikiProject report|this]] might be useful (even though it's old). Good luck and all the best, [[User:Miniapolis|'''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''']][[User_talk:Miniapolis|'''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''']] 14:46, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
:Have you identified the reasons that the WikiProject became inactive? Ideally, you should develop a strategy to avoid a repeat. I took a look at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Directory/Description/WikiProject Finance & Investment]], and it doesn't show a lot of editors active on articles tagged by WPF&I. (It could be that there simply aren't a lot of articles tagged by the project.) A more realistic alternative might be to revive it as a task force of an existing WikiProject, like [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Economics|WikiProject Economics]]. – [[User:Reidgreg|Reidgreg]] ([[User talk:Reidgreg|talk]]) 16:33, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
::I think it's because those that created it ({{u|Drewwiki}} and {{u|Leifern}}) stopped editing Wikipedia. I'm quite confused at the activity, as popular topics like [[Bitcoin]] are part of it (although community sanctions and a high rate of editor restrictions on the most popular articles affects this). Reviving it as a task force of Economics would be a good way to go about it, but I'm unsure how one would scope the interest in doing that (e.g. an RfC on the Economics talk page linked in WP:FINANCE). Thanks for the advice, {{u|Reidgreg}}! [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 15:40, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

== Answer to your question ==

I answered your question on the WTW talk page, but on reconsideration just removed my comment(s) as too long and possibly digressing. The reply is visible in the talk page history if you are interested and did not see it. I'm not entirely satisfied with it AS an answer but it's OK as an approximate version of what I would ideally have said given time to write something more precise. [[User:Sesquivalent|Sesquivalent]] ([[User talk:Sesquivalent|talk]]) 02:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

== Feedback request: Wikipedia proposals request for comment ==

[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#rfc_C79B28C|'''Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)'''&#32; on a "Wikipedia proposals" request for comment]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 10:30, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

==Closing Cases at DRN==
You have closed multiple cases at [[WP:DRN|DRN]] with the note that there has not been extensive discussion. I agree that the discussion in those cases was not extensive, and they were not ready for DRN. You then recommended that a neutral [[WP:RFC|Request for Comments]] be used before filing a case request. I disagree, and would prefer that advice not be given in that form. DRN is one of the options after there has extensive inconclusive discussion at the article talk page. An RFC is another such option. In particular, I think that advising RFC prior to DRN reverses the order in which different stages of [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]] are in order. Sometimes DRN is followed by an RFC. On the other hand, if there has already been an RFC, DRN is very seldom appropriate. If the RFC resulted in a consensus, then DRN is likely to be [[WP:BLUDGEON|bludgeoning]] a [[WP:DEADHORSE|dead horse]]. If an RFC does not result in consensus, DRN is not likely to result in consensus either. So please don't advise an RFC first. It should be discussion first, then either DRN or an RFC.
[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 21:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

:I greatly appreciate your giving me advice on this, {{u|Robert McClenon}}. I am of course just a beginner at DRN and your experience and reputation on dispute resolution is one I am glad to learn from. Thanks for the detailed explanation.{{pb}}In the case of the Irvington request, as the filer explicitly said the purpose of filing a DRN request was exclusively to get input from more people due to another editor's behaviour, I recommended an RfC due to its ability to outdo the negative effects of local consensus or niche-ness of articles through its notification system. I did not wish to imply that RfC is a strict requirement before a DRN case or that there is some chronological order between the two, but rather that the underlying need for resolution as laid out by the filer was one that would be best served by doing an RfC on the matter. Of course, the opposite party declined participation and that would've been enough to dismiss the request but I thought I'd propose the RfC option.{{pb}}Regarding the Bengal tiger and Supercomputer requests, I see how my closing text was wrong and won't recommend an RfC before DRN in future content dispute requests. Again, thanks for dropping by my talk page :) [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 21:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

== Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination ==

[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg|48px|left|alt=|link=]]Your feedback is requested &#32;at [[Talk:William H. Davis (educator)|'''Talk:William H. Davis (educator)'''&#32; on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by [[WP:FRS|removing your name]].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by [[User:Yapperbot|Yapperbot]] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact [[User talk:Naypta|my bot operator]]. &#124; Sent at 02:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

== Feedback request: Art and architecture Good Article nomination ==

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== Feedback request: Art and architecture Good Article nomination ==

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== Post-noms in the lead ==
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[The Jungle Book and Scouting]] <small>([[Talk:The Jungle Book and Scouting|talk]])</small>
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Hi Ixtal
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I was only alerted to [[Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2023_archive#Proposal:_Moving_post-nominals_from_lead_sentences_to_article_bodies| this discussion]] recently, and only wish I'd known about it at the time. I would also liked to have invited people from projects relating to Commonwealth countries, who I think would have provided more opposition to the idea. These are my objections (apart from the fact that the template is used in thousands of articles, and it would be my guess that nearly all of these are in the first sentence):
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Newspaper]] <small>([[Talk:Newspaper|talk]])</small>
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As one commenter pointed out, it is a shorthand way of conveying the various honours and most important professional affiliations of the subject - brief, easy to be clicked on if interested, easy to move on if not.
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Ippolito Nievo]] <small>([[Talk:Ippolito Nievo|talk]])</small>
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It's all very well saying that they can be put in the body, but this template simply does not fit anywhere else in a biography. They don't have them when they're born, so not early life, and the rest of the article is descriptive prose where, ideally, the various honours or affiliations are explained and cited. I just don't see another use for the post-nom template, if this use is scrapped. The discussion as it stands has a lot of opposition and I don't see a persuasive article for removing what is standard in thousands of articles. Can this be re-opened somewhere? I would like to see more input from Australian, NZ, Canadian, and British editors. [[User:Laterthanyouthink|Laterthanyouthink]] ([[User talk:Laterthanyouthink|talk]]) 08:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Karl-Maria Kertbeny]] <small>([[Talk:Karl-Maria Kertbeny|talk]])</small>
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:{{U|Laterthanyouthink}}, I'm not home right now but I'll get back to you on this. All I'll say for now is I'm currently on somewhat of an extended wiki-break so if this issue is reopened again I won't steer or participate heavily in such an effort. — ♠ [[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] <sup>( [[User talk:Ixtal|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ixtal|C]] ) </sup> &#8258; <small> [[Non nobis solum]] </small> ♠ 18:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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::Okay, no worries, enjoy your break. 🙂 [[User:Laterthanyouthink|Laterthanyouthink]] ([[User talk:Laterthanyouthink|talk]]) 21:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Chinese property bubble (2005–2011)]] <small>([[Talk:Chinese property bubble (2005–2011)|talk]])</small>
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== Wikimedia Apps newsletter – Fourth quarter of 2024 ==
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[History of the Republican People's Party]] <small>([[Talk:History of the Republican People's Party|talk]])</small>
| Cleanup


<section begin="content"/>
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'''Hello, and welcome to the app's final newsletter of 2024! In this edition, we’ll highlight the key updates and progress made during October and November 2024!'''
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| {{Hs|2.0}} [[File:Stars320.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B|link=Renewable energy transition|Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Renewable energy transition]] <small>([[Talk:Renewable energy transition|talk]])</small>
| Cleanup


'''iOS Updates'''
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Fossil fuel phase-out]] <small>([[Talk:Fossil fuel phase-out|talk]])</small>
| Cleanup


[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review|Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review]]
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[LGBT Humanists UK]] <small>([[Talk:LGBT Humanists UK|talk]])</small>
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In November, we released the first iteration of the Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review to users in Italy and Mexico, covering Italian, Spanish, and English Wikipedia! This experimental feature offers personalized insights based on reading, editing, and donation history for iOS app users for 2024. If this initial version is successful, we hope to improve upon it and make it available to everyone within the iOS app in January 2025. For more information on how your data is used and how to access your Year in Review, please visit the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review|project page]], or watch a short [[:File:IOS Personalized Year in Review Demo V1.webm|video demonstration]] of the feature.
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[José Blanco López]] <small>([[Talk:José Blanco López|talk]])</small>
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[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/iOS Suggested edits project/Alt Text Experiment|Alt Text Experiment]]
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The alternative text experiment concluded on November 4, and we are currently analyzing the results. The edits are being reviewed by accessibility experts and moderators active on the iOS app for additional feedback.
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| {{Hs|2.0}} [[File:Stars320.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C|link=Keith-Albee Theatre|Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Keith-Albee Theatre]] <small>([[Talk:Keith-Albee Theatre|talk]])</small>
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Preliminary results show that prompting users on an image they’ve just added leads to higher completion rates (18%) compared to unrelated images (6%). The overall revert rate for alt text edits was 3.4%, lower than the app’s average revert rate of 8.1%. We’ll decide next steps for this feature after completing the analysis.
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| {{Hs|2.0}} [[File:Stars320.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C|link=Intergenerationality|Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Intergenerationality]] <small>([[Talk:Intergenerationality|talk]])</small>
| Unencyclopaedic


[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Navigation Refresh/Updates|Navigation Refresh]]
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| {{Hs|3.0}} [[File:Stars330.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: FA|link=Requetés|Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: FA]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Requetés]] <small>([[Talk:Requetés|talk]])</small>
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We completed the first phase of our Navigation refresh, and released a new profile menu into the production version of the app. Our work was coordinated in this Epic: [[phab:T373714|T373714]]
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| {{Hs|2.0}} [[File:Stars320.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B|link=Satay|Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Satay]] <small>([[Talk:Satay|talk]])</small>
| Merge


'''Android Updates'''
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| {{Hs|3.0}} [[File:Stars330.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA|link=Russo-Turkish War (1787–1792)|Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Russo-Turkish War (1787–1792)]] <small>([[Talk:Russo-Turkish War (1787–1792)|talk]])</small>
| Merge


[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/Private Donor Recognition Experiment|Private Donor Recognition Experiment]]
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| {{Hs|2.0}} [[File:Stars320.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: C|link=AI accelerator|Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: C]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[AI accelerator]] <small>([[Talk:AI accelerator|talk]])</small>
| Merge


We launched an experiment in France and the Netherlands, exploring the impact of private donor recognition on current and prospective donors. Users who donated through the app will see an active badge on the contributions page, while those who haven’t donated will see a prompt to do so. The experiment will run for 20 days, after which we will evaluate the results. This work was coordinated under Epic: [[phab:T376303|T376303]].
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| {{Hs|3.0}} [[File:Stars330.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: High, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: GA|link=Energy policy of the European Union|Quality: High, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: GA]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Energy policy of the European Union]] <small>([[Talk:Energy policy of the European Union|talk]])</small>
| Wikify


[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/Rabbit Holes|Rabbit Holes Experiment]]
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| {{Hs|1.0}} [[File:Stars310.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start|link=Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Kyrgyzstan)|Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Kyrgyzstan)]] <small>([[Talk:Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Kyrgyzstan)|talk]])</small>
| Wikify


The team began work on the "Rabbit Holes" experiment to increase retention among new readers. The experiment is designed to help users more easily discover and connect with content they are interested in. It is being coordinated under Epic: [[phab:T378612|T378612]].
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| {{Hs|2.0}} [[File:Stars320.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B|link=New Zealand property bubble|Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[New Zealand property bubble]] <small>([[Talk:New Zealand property bubble|talk]])</small>
| Wikify


[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/Recommended Content in Search|Recommended Content in Search]]
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| {{Hs|2.0}} [[File:Stars320.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: C|link=Liquidity regulation|Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: C]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Liquidity regulation]] <small>([[Talk:Liquidity regulation|talk]])</small>
| Orphan


The Recommended Content in Search experiment showed promising results. Personalized recommendations led to higher retention (86.5%) compared to non-personalized recommendations (64.9%), with positive feedback from users.
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| {{Hs|1.0}} [[File:Stars310.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start|link=Long Blockchain Corp|Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Long Blockchain Corp]] <small>([[Talk:Long Blockchain Corp|talk]])</small>
| Orphan


[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/Places|Places]]
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| {{Hs|1.0}} [[File:Stars310.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub|link=Jupiter barrier|Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Jupiter barrier]] <small>([[Talk:Jupiter barrier|talk]])</small>
| Orphan


We added a launcher shortcut for quicker access to the "Places" feature in the app. ([[phab:T375367|T375367]])
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| {{Hs|1.0}} [[File:Stars310.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start|link=Ocean Flower Island|Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Ocean Flower Island]] <small>([[Talk:Ocean Flower Island|talk]])</small>
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'''Looking Ahead'''
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| {{Hs|1.0}} [[File:Stars310.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start|link=Alberto Palacio|Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Alberto Palacio]] <small>([[Talk:Alberto Palacio|talk]])</small>
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As we close out 2024, we’re excited about all the progress made and the work ahead in 2025. Keep an eye out for more updates and improvements we hope will enhance your Wikipedia experience!
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| {{Hs|1.0}} [[File:Stars310.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub|link=Román Rodríguez Rodríguez|Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Román Rodríguez Rodríguez]] <small>([[Talk:Román Rodríguez Rodríguez|talk]])</small>
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Thank you for being part of this journey, and don’t forget to [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery/Targets/Wikimedia Apps updates|subscribe to the newsletter]] for the latest updates!
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| {{Hs|1.0}} [[File:Stars310.svg|60 px|alt=Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub|link=Young Woman in a Black Dress|Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub]]
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Young Woman in a Black Dress]] <small>([[Talk:Young Woman in a Black Dress|talk]])</small>
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--[[User: ARamadan-WMF| ARamadan-WMF]] 13:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Nomination for deletion of [[:Template:Death with dignity]] ==
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[[File:Ambox warning blue.svg|30px|link=]][[:Template:Death with dignity]] has been [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|nominated for deletion]]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 December 22#Template:Death with dignity|'''the entry on the Templates for discussion page''']].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 15:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Not apologizing and remaining absolute ==

{{strikethrough|I'm not going to apologize and I don't feel bad for my removal on the [[List of fictional characters with disabilities]] page or any of the things I said in the discussion. I fully expected it to be reversed, but I did the removal anyway because I was tired of the worthless (and frankly unnecessary) discussion on the talk page of that list page started by an IP address who never even contributed in the discussion after their first comment. In retrospect, I should have just reversed the comment by the IP address and never began the discussion to begin with. I still stand by the idea that there wasn't any consensus or "decision," in part because I feel there wasn't enough participation (no one seemed to care about that but me) to warrant a claim of consensus or a decision. It seemed certain users (not going to name anyone in particular) wanted to wrap up the discussion too quickly, almost like they had a vested interest in doing so. As a result of this discussion, I pulled out of the WikiProject focused on disability topics, and want no part in fixing up the [[Sexuality and disability]] page, which is an utter mess. I've made way too many concessions over and over when editing for LGBTQ topics on here, which I have come to accept as a necessary part of editing on here. I have no energy to make yet another concession (removing all mentions of LGBTQ identity from the list page) to make a handful of users happy. Apparently the "consensus" is to make the page anti-queer and anti-LGBTQ, i.e. imply that every character on that page is straight, which I disagree with wholeheartedly, but its what the users have purportedly "agreed" to. I have no time, or energy, to get into petty arguments anymore, or to imply that certain editors are leading the character to remove sexual orientation based on their race, gender, and ethnicity... I'll go back to editing "safe" pages where arguments like this one won't occur. I have no interest in creating a [[Disability and LGBT identities]] page either or "fixing" the list page. I feel as I'm not wanted there, as the discussion clearly indicates. I will not be returning to do any editing on that list page (which I've come to believe is a totally unnecessary page which should be merged into the [[disability]] page and turned into a redirect anytime soon or that mess of a page, the one named "Sexuality and disability."}} [[User:Historyday01|Historyday01]] ([[User talk:Historyday01|talk]]) 20:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|Historyday01}} before anything, I want to say I appreciate the work you do on Wikipedia on animation (and other forms of popular media), characters, and lists of both. I hope you don't feel unwelcome by either my edits or comments on talk pages, as I would hate for that to be the case and deeply apologize if it is. Firstly, as much as I personally don't agree with allowing IP editing, we need to understand that they're an important part of the wiki ecosystem and shouldn't be dismissed wholesale. The IP raised valid concerns in a civil manner and there should be no expectation for an editor to continually engage in threads they start. On the consensus side, I strongly disagree and believe there was consensus in the talk page that LGBT identities should not be included in descriptions of character disabilities. You mention that you believe there wasn't enough participation in the thread for there to be consensus. While [[WP:LOCALCONSENSUS]] is certainly a thing that exists and might affect the consensus reached on the talk page, the fact that a small number of editors engaged in the discussion does not mean that the consensus achieved should be dismissed. If you feel that the consensus was negatively affected by the number of editors involved, there are plenty of ways to request dispute resolution or further discussion (e.g [[WP:3O]], [[WP:RFC]], [[WP:DRN]]) which should be used. Dismissing the consensus and editing against it can be considered disruptive and won't get you far in the discussion anyways. If you feel {{tq|certain users wanted to wrap up the discussion too quickly}} I would certainly recommend starting an RfC on the topic as the 30-day expected duration would prevent that from happening (or be a great obstacle to close the discussion prematurely). I understand editing LGBT topics can be infuriating and cause great deals of stress and impotence (I myself have been involved over at [[Irreversible Damage]] and [[ROGD]] in a terribly discouraging discussion for a few months now). I have experienced many of the feelings you share above with me. You are certainly encouraged to continue editing in safer pages if that'll help keep you part of the project. I personally would hate to see such a productive and unique editor like you leave Wikipedia. However, I don't think any editor in the discussion was trying to make the page anti-queer. Other editors as well as myself are queer and believe mentions of LGBTQ identity were not [[WP:DUE]] in the page and could be demeaning to LGBTQ readers and editors. If you disagree with that consensus and wish to get wider community consensus through an RfC, I'd be very glad to help draft a neutrally worded RfC for that purpose in my talk page, as I think both sides had compelling arguments and wider opinions on the matter would probably suggest a middle-ground approach that would mostly satisfy all sides. As a final note, I agree that the [[Sexuality and disability]] page is in a terrible state and can only feel sad that, in a world where I can't fight all the battles I wish I could, I'll have to leave that page for a more dedicated editor with more interest in that topic area to bring the article to the quality the encyclopedia needs. I hope none of my reply feels passive-aggressive or dismissive and even if you don't reply I hope we continue to meet on wiki in the future, {{u|Historyday01}} :). I hope you enjoy the rest of your week and had a restful weekend. [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 21:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
::{{strikethrough|Your edits and what you have done doesn't make me feel unwelcome... it was other users that made me not feel unwelcome. I'm not going to name specific people, as I have named specific people in the past and well, that didn't go so well for me, so I'd rather speak about it in generalities. I understand that IP editing is important, and I have come around to it, although sometimes it can be disruptive. Even if I had reverted that comment by the IP user instead of responding on January 26, I would guess that someone would have reverted my edit, and brought it back, pulling me into the discussion regardless. While I'm still not entirely convinced there was a consensus and feel the discussion was wrapped up too quickly, I suppose in this case [[WP:LOCALCONSENSUS]] could apply. I could, if I wished, "request dispute resolution or further discussion" but honestly. I'd be willing for you to draft a neutrally-worded RfC, even though I predict there would be the same result at the end of the day. I suppose it would be worth a try. I have dealt with that one editor you mentioned on the Irreversible Damage talk page before, who appeared annoyed you called out some editors as transphobic (like that is a bad thing? It's not). That discussion on there definitely seemed dispiriting. I would hope that none of the editors on there were "trying to make the page anti-queer" and I do have to agree that the [[Sexuality and disability]] page is in a terrible state too. I wish I had time to deal with it, but I've been trying to lessen my time on here and I still have pages that I'd like to create in the future. Your response doesn't feel passive-aggressive or dismissive. I guess, at times, I can be a bit too passionate about this stuff and it spills out in arguments, so I have to constantly restrain that impulse.}} [[User:Historyday01|Historyday01]] ([[User talk:Historyday01|talk]]) 00:45, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
:::I'm glad you think an RfC is worth a shot. I have included a draft right below and would appreciate any comments you might have on it. I've worded it based on the options raised in the discussion. In terms of passion, I think your passion is a great thing. After all, it's what is driving you to make more content for Wikipedia and engage in discussions. I myself often let that passionate overtake me (my ADHD's impatience doesn't help with that, gotta say), but reading [[WP:CANDOR]] and [[If—]] often bring me back to the ground. Don't lose your passionate drive, {{u|Historyday01}}, it's something to treasure! My proposed RfC:{{pb}}
:::'''How should the list include information on characters' sexuality, gender identity, and/or relationships:'''
:::Wikipedia's interests in increasing the visibility of both disabilities and LGBTQ+ identities while diminishing the possibility of demeaning or hurtful presentations of these minorities sometimes may cause tension that is difficult to resolve. Issues arising in this area must be addressed with a high sensitivity to the competing concerns and editors must remain civil and continue to assume good faith from others in the discussion. This RfC is an effort to address such an issue on this page.
:::# The list should not include this information and limit itself just to describing the disability of the character(s);
:::# Add an additional column to the list titled "Character Notes" to include this information and other character descriptors that readers might find interesting or relate to, keeping the disability information in a "Disabilities" column;
:::# The list should include this information in the "Notes" section (status quo)
:::{{pb}}
:::Thoughts? [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 07:42, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
::::{{strikethrough|That RfC looks good to me. I won't lose my passionate drive, for sure.}} [[User:Historyday01|Historyday01]] ([[User talk:Historyday01|talk]]) 13:45, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

== Village pump discussion ==

Do my changes to subproposal 12 make it easier for you to understand how to contribute to it? I realize now while the structure is needed, the explanation could have been better. [[User:BilledMammal|BilledMammal]] ([[User talk:BilledMammal|talk]]) 20:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

:Honestly my main issue is that since none of the subproposals' discussions have been closed it's a bit difficult to figure out where to start as the discussion has been ongoing for about a month. Thanks for dropping by my talk page, btw, {{u|BilledMammal}}. Much appreciated :) [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 20:11, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

::Several cups of tea is probably the right place to start. [[User:BilledMammal|BilledMammal]] ([[User talk:BilledMammal|talk]]) 20:14, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
:::Ate a nice meal and went through it, {{u|BilledMammal}}. Honestly the discussion is much more calm and enjoyable than I expected. I've made a small proposal on the talk page and am curious to see where it goes. [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 15:01, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

== Help with a user who won't communicate ==

After the problems with [[Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#RepresentUs|RepresentUs]] I made the mistake of looking at which pages {{u|Tomwsulcer}} was editing. He had [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Raynard_S._Kington&diff=prev&oldid=1071297661 added] some material to a page that wasn't supported by the sources, so I removed it. He [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Raynard_S._Kington&diff=next&oldid=1071313032 added it back], with more sources, but none of them say what he claims. Instead of discussing it on the [[Talk:Raynard S. Kington#Social justice and diversity claims|talk page]], he is leaving messages on the talk pages of other articles ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Phillips_Academy&diff=prev&oldid=1071321227] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gay_men&diff=prev&oldid=1071396273]). I don't think I am being overly sensitive when I say that the second one looks like he is calling me homophobic. He was insulting in the Conflict of Interest discussion and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Melcous&diff=prev&oldid=1070233355 here] he was very passive aggressively calling me names ("I'm not trying to destroy the RepresentUs page unlike another editor"). Is there anything I can do about this? I know it's partly my fault for not just leaving things alone, but after I saw what he did on RepresentUs I was concerned. [[User:Polycarpa aurata|Polycarpa aurata]] ([[User talk:Polycarpa aurata|talk]]) 23:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|Polycarpa aurata}} thanks for dropping by my page, I'm always glad to hear you out. [[WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE]] offers some possible paths you can take to resolve the dispute. Seeing how he's just blanked his user page (entirely in his right to do, I will say) right after you added a new section there inquiring about his actions, I don't expect you discussing this in his talk page will do much. Those are the things you can do, but there's a lot of things that will happen without you needing to do anything. Yes, discussing the issue in other article's talk pages is both wrong and immensely infuriating to the other party, but generally has no effect. I would recommend ignoring that behaviour. That is not to say that you are being overly sensitive (you are not), but that many of the editor's actions won't have influence either the article or on how the community sees you. Finally, and probably my more actionable recommendation, is to go to [[WP:BLPN]] when another editor repeatedly adds unsourced or badly sourced information to a [[WP:BLP|biography of a living person]]. There are dozens of experienced editors watching that noticeboard that will be more than glad to step in and help resolve the dispute ([[WP:WPBIO]] or other wikiprojects relevant to the article might be other alternatives). I've left a short comment on Tomwsulcer's talk page and ask you not to comment on that thread, but thought I'd notify you in case the advice I've given him is helpful to you as well and so you know that I'll try my best to iron this out between you two :){{pb}}A final two comments: it is generally helpful and calming to remember that trusting the Wikipedia community always leads to the best possible resolution. And in case it is useful, I really enjoy the essay [[Wikipedia:Imagine others complexly]]. Tomwsulcer is acting in the way he thinks will most improve the wiki. It's probably confusing, or hurtful, or ineffective (or even none of these!); but chances are he's doing it because he genuinely, truly, to his core thinks that's the best way to act. [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 00:14, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
::Another alternative to the Imagine others complexly read is the last quote at the top of my userpage, a personal favorite of mine. [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 00:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks, that's very helpful. I was assuming that Tomwsulcer was trying to improve the page on someone he respects, so I found it confusing when he didn't seem to want to discuss his changes. It seems counterproductive for him. Maybe your words will help. I hope so. [[User:Polycarpa aurata|Polycarpa aurata]] ([[User talk:Polycarpa aurata|talk]]) 00:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

I've taken a bit of a step back for a day or so from the contentious discussion at the list of disabled characters page. I've just taken a look there and found the discussion has unfortunately been gutted. However, I've come to your page to thank you for your efforts to moderate the process. Your contribution is much appreciated. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 08:49, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

:Your comment is much appreciated, {{u|Dodger67|Roger}}. I tried my best :) [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 10:22, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

==Shusha==
Hello there. I noticed that you [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AShusha&type=revision&diff=1072182436&oldid=1068904950 closed this discussion] as a no-consensus. I would like to raise two points, if I may. (1) It looks like Option 3 received only four votes, while Option 1 received six (I am also counting the last vote, which was, in any case, against Option 3). Is this really a case of a split vote? (2) My second concern is the summary of the result. You mentioned that ''"Supporters of 3 believed that disclosing the ethnicity of the sources would be beneficial in the interest of [[WP:NEUTRAL|neutrally covering the topic]]"'', when it looks to me as if Option 3 was meant to state quite obviously the nationality of the two Azerbaijani authors only and to make no mention of the nationality of Nersesov, hence syntactically "pushing" him under the qualification of being "Azerbaijani" as the former two. I would be interested in your ideas. [[User:Parishan|Parishan]] ([[User talk:Parishan|talk]]) 20:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|Parishan}}, thanks for dropping by my talk page. I will first respond to your second point. I understand that you may disagree (based on your vote) with option 3 supporters' idea of neutrality and see it as POV pushing, but taking a few quotes from their rationales (e.g. {{tq|disclosing any possible ethnic conflict interest of authors is important in this controversial topic}} and {{tq|proper in-text attribution is required to make sure that readers are aware that viewpoint is not standard throughout 19th century sources such as would be the case in number one}}) indicates that they believed this option would be the most neutral when covering the topic (see [[WP:BIASEDSOURCES]]). You may feel differently, but that is the perspective they showed (from what I can tell). I make no comment as to whether that is the proper understanding of neutrality guidelines or the more neutral option in this particular case, and point that Nersesov's ethnicity seems to have been discussed at length in both other talk page threads and [[WP:AE]] cases indicating it's not as clear-cut an issue as your comment above describes it as being.
:{{pb}}In regards to your first point, I will remind you that [[WP:VOTE|consensus is not based off voting]]. There were basically two incompatible sides to the discussion differing by one editor (thinking of it in a [[zero sum]] fashion) if we judge the consensus by just strict voting count, which I don't think is enough of a difference to call it consensus. Additionally, neither side had a [[Wikipedia:Advice_on_closing_discussions#Strength_of_arguments|much stronger argument]] than the other nor was there much interaction between the sides where their arguments could be fully debated.
:{{pb}}I will say, though, that I think many of these consensus-limiting factors are due to how low the participation was in the RfC. I've gone through {{u|Grandmaster}}'s contributions from when he started the RfC and don't see any {{tl|rfc notice}}s being added to relevant WikiProjects (both those listed in the Article talk page as well as [[WP:History]] and [[WP:European history]] due to the nature of the discussion). I would suggest starting another discussion and advertising it in these WikiProject talk pages to encourage more discussion if you still desire for a clearer consensus to be reached. For an RfC where editors involved have very recently been involved in AE for this topic area and [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_211#Shusha|began a failed DRN case]] not advertising the RfC widely enough is really negative to the outcome. [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 22:25, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

== HeeraDrishti ==
{{user|HeeraDrishti}} Was leaving talk in a number of places before being blocked. I undid that edit thinking it was more of the same. Didn't realize there was more to it. My apology! Cheers [[User:Adakiko|Adakiko]] ([[User talk:Adakiko|talk]]) 09:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|Adakiko}}, thanks for clarifying. Your gnoming is greatly appreciated! [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 09:28, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

== Request for advise and assistance for Exohood article bettering ==

Hello A. C. Santacruz, I would like some help or advise on how to better the article that I created ([[Exohood]]). The editing that I made recently was regarding the notifications that Wikipedia made about it being an "Orphan Article" and requesting to add a "Category".

*Regarding the "Orphan Article" Issue: In the recommendations of Wikipedia, it said that I should provide links to the article from other Internal or external Articles, therefore I searched other articles regarding DeFi projects and added the "See Also" section in order to provide a healthy link to it. I meant to do no spam or violate any Wikipedia norm whatsoever.

*Regarding the "Category" Issue: I added the articles category just as Wikipedia describes in its rules.

*Finally, I added the term "EXO" on the page of "EXO Disambiguation" in order to include what could be another reference to the term "EXO" regarding to DeFi Token of the Exohood Project.

I would really appreciate it if you could guide me to comply with all of Wikipedia's requirements regarding the article.

Note: I now have seen that the Article has been nominated for deletion by a user that has been '''blocked''' for "Disruptive editing: abusive speedy tagging after warnings". So, I would like your appreciation about this case.


== Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup! ==
Thanks for your time. I understand that you're only interested for what's best for Wikipedia but I would really appreciate your advice and guide through this issue. That Article was very hard work.[[File:Ein Herr Ein Glaube Eine Taufe.jpg|15px]] [[User: Efraindjc|'''Efraindjc''']] - [[User talk:Efraindjc|'''Talk to me''']] 16:59, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found '''[[Wikipedia:WikiCup|here]]'''. If you have not yet signed up, you can '''[[Wikipedia:WikiCup/2025 signups|add your name here]]''' and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup|WikiCup talk page]].
:{{u|Efraindjc}}, thanks for coming by my page. I will preface this by saying there is no guarantee or expectation that Exohood will be kept as a result of the current [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Exohood|deletion discussion]]. I will start by saying that an article being an orphan is probably something that you, as both a new editor and the article creator, should not bother fixing. I say this because you are unlikely to understand the Wikipedia [[WP:PAG|policies and guidelines]] on content and your inclusion might be considered [[WP:DISRUPTIVE|disruptive]]. Adding see also sections is one way to do so. [[WP:See also|See also sections]] {{tq|should reflect the links that would be present in a comprehensive article on the topic}} (per description in the relevant layout guideline), and you are probably too unexperienced on Wikipedia to understand what that exactly means. I'll list some examples below:
:*[[WWII]] lists [[Index of World War II articles]], [[Lists of World War II topics]], [[Outline of World War II]], [[Lists of World War II military equipment]];
:*[[NFL]] lists some articles ''closely'' related; and for a more similar case
:*[[Global financial system]] (an article one could see as closely related to [[Decentralized finance]]) only lists [[List of finance topics]] in the see also section.
:Do note that there is a big issue on wikipedia of people attempting to promote cryptocurrencies and crypto platforms (like Exohood) due to financial incentives, so any behaviour an editor makes in this topic will see more scrutiny than in many other areas of Wikipedia. That is why I reverted your edit and gave you a warning, but I gave you the lowest level of warning possible as it was not seriously disruptive. The rest of the editing you describe does not seem outside of the guidelines to me from a first impression.{{pb}}I will mention, though, that the editor who nominated Exohood for deletion has all the right to do so. If you want to avoid it being deleted it is you who must provide two or three instances of [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]]. I would also say that proposing that the article be moved to [[WP:DRAFTIFY|a draft space]] where you can improve it if there is no significant coverage until such sources are produced in the future is another alternative. I hope this helps. [[User:A._C._Santacruz|A. C. Santacruz]] &#8258; [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|Please ping me!]] 17:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


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The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: {{User4|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User4|Epicgenius}}, {{User4|Frostly}}, {{User4|Guerillero}} and {{User4|Lee Vilenski}}. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 00:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your help today. I went on to mark a page for deletion, my first ever :-) Also, years ago I did a few minor changes to a few pages, and also added a personal page for myself. I don't see any of that anymore. Do these personal pages get cleaned up after a while?
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Guild of Copy Editors December 2024 Newsletter

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2024 Newsletter

Hello, and welcome to the December newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since September. If you no longer want this newsletter, you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. If you'd like to be notified of upcoming drives and blitzes, and other GOCE activities, the best method is to add our announcements box to your watchlist.

Election news: The Guild's coordinators play an important role in the WikiProject, making sure nearly everything runs smoothly and on time. Editors in good standing (unblocked and without sanctions) are invited to nominate themselves or another editor to be a Guild coordinator (with their permission, of course) until 23:59 on 15 December (UTC). The voting phase begins at 00:01 on 16 December and runs until 23:59 on 31 December. Questions may be asked of candidates at any stage in the process. Elected coordinators will serve a six-month term from 1 January through 30 June.

Drive: In our September Backlog Elimination Drive, 67 editors signed up, 39 completed at least one copy edit, and between them they edited 682,696 words comprising 507 articles. Barnstars awarded are here.

Blitz: The October Copy Editing Blitz saw 16 editors sign-up, 15 of whom completed at least one copy edit. They edited 76,776 words comprising 35 articles. Barnstars awarded are here.

Drive: In our November Backlog Elimination Drive, 432,320 words in 151 articles were copy edited. Of the 54 users who signed up, 33 copy edited at least one article. Barnstars awarded are posted here.

Blitz: The December Blitz will begin at 00:00 on 15 December (UTC) and will end on 21 December at 23:59. Sign up here. Barnstars awarded will be posted here.

Progress report: As of 22:12, 7 December 2024 (UTC), GOCE copy editors have completed 333 requests since 1 January, and the backlog of tagged articles stands at 2,401 articles.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, Mox Eden and Wracking.

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Message sent by Baffle_gab1978 using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:48, 7 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The Signpost: 12 December 2024

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New pages patrol January 2025 Backlog drive

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January 2025 Backlog Drive | New pages patrol
  • On 1 January 2025, a one-month backlog drive for new pages patrol will begin in hopes of addressing the growing backlog.
  • Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled.
  • Each article review will earn 1 point, while each redirect review will earn 0.2 points.
  • Streak awards will be given out based on consistently hitting point thresholds for each week of the drive.
  • Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive.
  • Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-noms in the lead

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Hi Ixtal

I was only alerted to this discussion recently, and only wish I'd known about it at the time. I would also liked to have invited people from projects relating to Commonwealth countries, who I think would have provided more opposition to the idea. These are my objections (apart from the fact that the template is used in thousands of articles, and it would be my guess that nearly all of these are in the first sentence):

As one commenter pointed out, it is a shorthand way of conveying the various honours and most important professional affiliations of the subject - brief, easy to be clicked on if interested, easy to move on if not.

It's all very well saying that they can be put in the body, but this template simply does not fit anywhere else in a biography. They don't have them when they're born, so not early life, and the rest of the article is descriptive prose where, ideally, the various honours or affiliations are explained and cited. I just don't see another use for the post-nom template, if this use is scrapped. The discussion as it stands has a lot of opposition and I don't see a persuasive article for removing what is standard in thousands of articles. Can this be re-opened somewhere? I would like to see more input from Australian, NZ, Canadian, and British editors. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laterthanyouthink, I'm not home right now but I'll get back to you on this. All I'll say for now is I'm currently on somewhat of an extended wiki-break so if this issue is reopened again I won't steer or participate heavily in such an effort. — ♠ Ixtal ( T / C ) Non nobis solum 18:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, no worries, enjoy your break. 🙂 Laterthanyouthink (talk) 21:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Apps newsletter – Fourth quarter of 2024

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Hello, and welcome to the app's final newsletter of 2024! In this edition, we’ll highlight the key updates and progress made during October and November 2024!

iOS Updates

Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review

In November, we released the first iteration of the Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review to users in Italy and Mexico, covering Italian, Spanish, and English Wikipedia! This experimental feature offers personalized insights based on reading, editing, and donation history for iOS app users for 2024. If this initial version is successful, we hope to improve upon it and make it available to everyone within the iOS app in January 2025. For more information on how your data is used and how to access your Year in Review, please visit the project page, or watch a short video demonstration of the feature.

Alt Text Experiment

The alternative text experiment concluded on November 4, and we are currently analyzing the results. The edits are being reviewed by accessibility experts and moderators active on the iOS app for additional feedback.

Preliminary results show that prompting users on an image they’ve just added leads to higher completion rates (18%) compared to unrelated images (6%). The overall revert rate for alt text edits was 3.4%, lower than the app’s average revert rate of 8.1%. We’ll decide next steps for this feature after completing the analysis.

Navigation Refresh

We completed the first phase of our Navigation refresh, and released a new profile menu into the production version of the app. Our work was coordinated in this Epic: T373714

Android Updates

Private Donor Recognition Experiment

We launched an experiment in France and the Netherlands, exploring the impact of private donor recognition on current and prospective donors. Users who donated through the app will see an active badge on the contributions page, while those who haven’t donated will see a prompt to do so. The experiment will run for 20 days, after which we will evaluate the results. This work was coordinated under Epic: T376303.

Rabbit Holes Experiment

The team began work on the "Rabbit Holes" experiment to increase retention among new readers. The experiment is designed to help users more easily discover and connect with content they are interested in. It is being coordinated under Epic: T378612.

Recommended Content in Search

The Recommended Content in Search experiment showed promising results. Personalized recommendations led to higher retention (86.5%) compared to non-personalized recommendations (64.9%), with positive feedback from users.

Places

We added a launcher shortcut for quicker access to the "Places" feature in the app. (T375367)

Looking Ahead

As we close out 2024, we’re excited about all the progress made and the work ahead in 2025. Keep an eye out for more updates and improvements we hope will enhance your Wikipedia experience!

Thank you for being part of this journey, and don’t forget to subscribe to the newsletter for the latest updates!


-- ARamadan-WMF 13:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Death with dignity

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Template:Death with dignity has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 December 2024

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Help

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Why does the site automatically remove my account after I sign up for Wikipedia? Thank you. Happy editing! Viki WTW (talk) 12:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December music

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story · music · places

My third Christmas story is different ;) - enjoy the season! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup!

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Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page.

For the 2025 WikiCup, we've implemented several changes to the scoring system. The highest-ranking contestants will now receive tournament points at the end of each round, and final rankings are decided by the number of tournament points each contestant has. If you're busy and can't sign up in January, don't worry: Signups are now open throughout the year. To make things fairer for latecomers, the lowest-scoring contestants will no longer be eliminated at the end of each round.

The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]