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On 2 April 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Mujahid Force Regiment. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 8 June 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) — Newslinger talk 22:48, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mujahid Force Regiment → Mujahid Force – Although the article states this formation is a Pakistan Army regiment, this fact is conspicuously missing from the Pakistan Army's own list of infantry regiments (see the foot of the page). It does however give a brief mention elsewhere (about two thirds of the way down the page) that the Mujahid Force is a paramilitary force. 2A02:C7D:3C1A:7300:6937:120D:E93A:94A5 (talk) 23:14, 8 June 2019 (UTC)--Relisting. Danski454 (talk) 12:08, 17 June 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Newslinger talk 04:02, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move 2 April 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There's no concensus to move (closed by non-admin page mover) Megan B.... ^{It’s all coming to me} till the end of time 16:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mujahid Force → Mujahid Force Regiment – This article must be move back to its full name, per references.[1], [2] 103.141.159.74 (talk) 08:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 22:53, 11 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 14:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It seems to be referred to interchangeably as the Mujahid Force, Mujahid Force Regiment and Mujahid Regiment. As far as I can see, none is more common than the others. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.119.178.145 (talk) 08:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment Discussion needed on whether the full name meets WP:CRITERIA. BilledMammal (talk) 14:15, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support moving to Mujahid force regiment. 111.119.177.4 (talk) 07:37, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The two IPs supporting the move above seem likely to be the same editor. The editor who proposed the move gave a few citations, but did not give any data on which name is more common in reliable secondary sources, and has not followed up after the relisting comment. I would read the current state of the discussion as no case to answer, leading to a "no consensus to move" close, but since no one has actually opposed the move I'll refrain from closing it that way now. Dekimasuよ! 14:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As Dekimasu says, no case to answer. Nom seems to have no grasp of the issues in terms of WP:AT. There seem to be three possible article names, Mujahid Force Regiment, Mujahid Force and Mujahid Regiment. As none of these three are ambiguous, the current name is trivially more concise than the proposed name and it is hard to see any possible justification for extending it. The two redirects already exist, if either did not not I would just create it. Andrewa (talk) 15:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Some potential sources to expand the article

Unused new sources

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2021/03/21/preparations-in-full-swing-to-celebrate-pakistan-day-in-befitting-manner-on-mar-23/
- Pakistan Today, March 21, 2021, Preparations in full swing to celebrate Pakistan Day in befitting manner on Mar 23: Rawalpindi CTP finalises all the arrangements to facilitate the motorists of twin cities on March 23
https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/471939-COAS-appreciates-contributions-sacrifices-of-Mujahid-Force-
- COAS appreciates contributions, sacrifices of Mujahid Force

Unused previous sources (removed from article)

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Gedrose (talk) 00:44, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Passing out parade of Mujahid Force recruits held". Business Recorder.
^ "Army chief lauds sacrifices of Mujahid force". The News International.
^ "Pak Army Museum".
^ APP. "Pakistan Armed Forces demonstrated military power, witnessed by OIC member states reps". Daily Times. Retrieved 2022-05-12.

[1] "Passing out parade of Mujahid Force recruits held". Business Recorder.

[2] "Army chief lauds sacrifices of Mujahid force". The News International.

[3] "Pak Army Museum".

[4] APP. "Pakistan Armed Forces demonstrated military power, witnessed by OIC member states reps". Daily Times. Retrieved 2022-05-12.

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+The result of the move request was: '''not moved.''' There's no concensus to move <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:Synoman Barris|<span style="font-family: Bell Centennial; color:Red; text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Megan B....</span>]] [[User talk:Synoman Barris|<span style="Green">''<sup>It’s all coming to me</sup>'' till the end of time</span>]] 16:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
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 [[:Mujahid Force]] → {{no redirect|Mujahid Force Regiment}} – This article must be move back to its full name, per references.[https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pakistan-deploying-units-part-of-border-action-team-along-loc-says-intelligence-sources-1162827-2018-02-07], [https://dailytimes.com.pk/906327/pakistan-armed-forces-demonstrated-military-power-witnessed-by-oic-member-states-reps/amp] [[Special:Contributions/103.141.159.74|103.141.159.74]] ([[User talk:103.141.159.74|talk]]) 08:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC) <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;[[User:Spekkios|Spekkios]] ([[User talk:Spekkios|talk]]) 22:53, 11 April 2022 (UTC)</small> <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;[[User:BilledMammal|BilledMammal]] ([[User talk:BilledMammal|talk]]) 14:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)</small>
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 * '''Relisting comment''' Discussion needed on whether the full name meets [[WP:CRITERIA]]. [[User:BilledMammal|BilledMammal]] ([[User talk:BilledMammal|talk]]) 14:15, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * '''Support''' moving to Mujahid force regiment. [[Special:Contributions/111.119.177.4|111.119.177.4]] ([[User talk:111.119.177.4|talk]]) 07:37, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
+* The two IPs supporting the move above seem likely to be the same editor. The editor who proposed the move gave a few citations, but did not give any data on which name is more common in reliable secondary sources, and has not followed up after the relisting comment. I would read the current state of the discussion as '''no case to answer''', leading to a "no consensus to move" close, but since no one has actually opposed the move I'll refrain from closing it that way now. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 14:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose'''. As Dekimasu says, no case to answer. Nom seems to have no grasp of the issues in terms of [[WP:AT]]. There seem to be three possible article names, [[Mujahid Force Regiment|Mujahid Force Regiment]], [[Mujahid Force|Mujahid Force]] and [[Mujahid Regiment|Mujahid Regiment]]. As none of these three are ambiguous, the current name is [[wp:trivially more concise|trivially more concise]] than the proposed name and it is hard to see any possible justification for extending it. The two redirects already exist, if either did not not I would just create it. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 15:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
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+== Some potential sources to expand the article ==
+;Unused new sources
+* https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2021/03/21/preparations-in-full-swing-to-celebrate-pakistan-day-in-befitting-manner-on-mar-23/
+** Pakistan Today, March 21, 2021, Preparations in full swing to celebrate Pakistan Day in befitting manner on Mar 23: Rawalpindi CTP finalises all the arrangements to facilitate the motorists of twin cities on March 23
+* https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/471939-COAS-appreciates-contributions-sacrifices-of-Mujahid-Force-
+** COAS appreciates contributions, sacrifices of Mujahid Force
+;Unused previous sources (removed from article)
+* <ref>{{cite news |title=Passing out parade of Mujahid Force recruits held |url=https://www.brecorder.com/2018/04/03/408951/ |work=Business Recorder}}</ref>
+* <ref>{{cite news |title=Army chief lauds sacrifices of Mujahid force |url=https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/412032 |work=The News International}}</ref>
+* <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.pakarmymuseum.com/exhibits/history-of-mujahid-force/|title=Pak Army Museum}}</ref>
+* <ref>{{cite web |author=APP |url=https://www.dailytimes.com.pk/906327/pakistan-armed-forces-demonstrated-military-power-witnessed-by-oic-member-states-reps/amp/ |title=Pakistan Armed Forces demonstrated military power, witnessed by OIC member states reps |publisher=Daily Times |date= |accessdate=2022-05-12}}</ref>
+[[User:Gedrose|Gedrose]] ([[User talk:Gedrose|talk]]) 00:44, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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