Talk:Jeannie T. Lee

Reorganizing and copyediting

I'm a new Fellow in General Subjects and this week I am supposed to do minor edits on articles I'm considering for more work.  I have reorganized this article. I would like to add an Infobox and a photograph if I can find one with the right qualifications for Wikipedia use.  Please let me know if you have issues with these copyedits or plans. LLMHoopes (talk) 13:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Trolling frequent

This article is on my watch list and recently it has been trolled twice, perhaps more. I am new and don't know how best to prevent this attack.LLMHoopes (talk) 14:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Notability

Not every university professor deserves an article in the encyclopedia. Articles at Wikipedia have to be about a notable topic in order to be included. As a university professor, this article would fall under the criteria of WP:NPROF, which lists nine criteria for inclusion. I don't see that this article meets any of the nine conditions, and if that turns out to be the case, this article should be nominated for deletion. Adding LLMHoopes and User:Shalor (Wiki Ed). Mathglot (talk) 18:43, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

• LLMHoopes - are you interested in further improving the page? Also, Mathglot - Lee has won an award from the National Academy of Sciences, which I think is supposed to be one of the more highly selective and prestigious of the groups out there, of which she's also a member, so she would probably pass on criteria #3 and probably #2. I'll also ping Natureium, as they created the article and may be able to give more insight. LLMHoopes, can you also attest to this? Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:12, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
• I don't see that this article meets any of the nine conditions
  • Criteria 1: "Dr. Lee’s work has revolutionized the field of epigenetics. Her research has led to groundbreaking contributions..."
  • Criteria 2: NIH MERIT award (this is a grant that you cannot apply for that gives an investigator with a long-term productive track record 10 years of funding), Molecular Biology Award from the National Academy of Sciences
  • Criteria 3: Elected Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 2010 and Elected member of the National Academy of Sciences in 2015
  • Criteria 5: She's a Howard Hughes Medical Institute Investigator
  • Criteria 6: Currently the President of the Genetics Society of America

That's 5 of the 9 criteria. What more do you want? Natureium (talk) 19:27, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

IF #1 is true, that is sufficient, and the others would not be necessary.

My view of it was from going through all of the references, one by one, and wasn't sure which, if any, confer notability:

• member of org or list: refs 1, 2, 15. — if these are major organizations, then yes
• interviews: 3, 4, 16. – Direct interview with a subject is primary source material
• co-author of journal article: 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. – none apply; every professor publishes.
• Awards, prizes: there are a lot of awards, are these "prestigious"?
  • Lurie award ref 14 – Lurie has no article; that doesn't mean it isn't notable on its own, but is it enough?
  • Centennial award ref 17 - no listing of this on a very long disambig page; how major is this?

That's where I was coming from. Mathglot (talk) 23:39, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I am certain that she is notable. For criteria 1 and 2, here is text of her citation for the Molecular Biology Award from the National Academy of Sciences, • Jeannie T. Lee (2010) "By using X-chromosome inactivation as a model system, Lee has made unique contributions to our understanding of epigenetic regulation on a global scale, including the role of long, non-coding RNAs, interchromosomal interactions, and nuclear compartmentalization." http://www.nasonline.org/programs/awards/molecular-biology.html

In addition, her work has been a major component of a number of review articles by others, including: Chris P. Ponting, Peter L. Oliver, Wolf Reik (2008) “Evolution and Functions of Long Noncoding RNAs” Cell 136:629-641.

Pedro J Batista and Howard Y Chang. (2013) “Long Noncoding RNA: Cellular Address Codes in Development and Disease.” Cell 152: 1298-1307.

John L Rinn and Howard Chang. (2013) “Genome regulation by long noncoding RNAs” Annu Rev Biochem 81: 145-166.

Anton Wutz. (2011) “Gene silencing in X-chromosome inactivation: advances in understanding facultative heterochromatin formation.” Nature Reviews Genetics 12: 542-533.

Thomas R. Cech and Joan A. Steitz (2013) “The Noncoding RNA Revolution: Trashing Old Rules to Forge New Ones” Cell 157: 77-94.

For Criterion 3, the National Academy of Sciences election is clear evidence that she is an outstanding scientist. http://www.nasonline.org/member-directory/members/20033180.html

For Criterion 6, She is president of the Genetics Society of America, a highly respected national society. LLMHoopes (talk) 00:47, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Okay, she passes at least 1 and 3 and that's enough, it's not necessary to pass all of them. Removing the template. Thanks for the additional references. Mathglot (talk) 07:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)