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-== improve the infobox ==
-Hi [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''Georgia]], Hope you are well.
-Do you think it is good to add the management section to the infobox? <span style="-moz-border-radius:5px;margin:3px;border:solid 1px#A50021;background-color:#F5F5F5;">[[User:Pereoptic|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;">Pereoptic</span>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Pereoptic|Talk✉️]]&nbsp;</sup></span>&nbsp; 11:23, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
-:Generally, I don't think it helpful to have an infobox at all, as they don't reflect nuance, can't typically reflect full or accurate information, and often [[WP:DIB|convey misinformation]]. But, they are covered undered [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions|Arbom discretionary sanctions]] and we seem [[WP:ARBINFOBOX|stuck with them]] in many cases following the arbitration. I usually opt for the least amount of information possible in them, to convey the least amount of misinformation.  Medication is already in the infobox; what else did you want to add? I don't see how non-medication strategies can be stated in two or three words. [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]])  14:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
-::@[[User:SandyGeorgia|SandyGeorgia]]: The part I intend to add to the infobox is the management of RBD symptoms and to some extent the management of orthostatic hypotension.
-::For example: use medication sensitivity notices, improve bedroom safety, lowering the height of the bed, Physiotherapy, avoiding alcohol <span style="-moz-border-radius:5px;margin:3px;border:solid 1px#A50021;background-color:#F5F5F5;">[[User:Pereoptic|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;">Pereoptic</span>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Pereoptic|Talk✉️]]&nbsp;</sup></span>&nbsp; 06:00, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
-:::That is excess detail for an infobox in my opinion. Not everyone has every symptom (DLB is different for everyone), and where do we draw the line on how much to include in the infobox?  Why those few in particular when there are paragraphs of suggestions of things one can try to help with specific symptoms? The medications are more generalized. [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]])  14:09, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
-::::@[[User:SandyGeorgia|SandyGeorgia]]:Medications are also used to manage some of the symptoms, so should we eliminate them as well? Since RBD is a very common symptom of DLB, it is certainly a good idea to add its non-drug management method and some others, I mentioned in the answer above, to the infobox. <span style="-moz-border-radius:5px;margin:3px;border:solid 1px#A50021;background-color:#F5F5F5;">[[User:Pereoptic|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;">Pereoptic</span>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Pereoptic|Talk✉️]]&nbsp;</sup></span>&nbsp; 07:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
-:::::You listed five things above you want to add to the infobox, for only RBD.  There are multiple core symptoms of DLB; why only RBD?  Should we also add use compression stockings, organized activities, music therapy, physical activity and occupational therapy, exercise and gait training, cognitive behavioral therapy, avoiding meals high in fat and sugary foods, eating smaller and more frequent meals, after-meal walks, increasing fluids or dietary fiber, stool softeners, wear loose fitting clothing... where do we stop? Infoboxes are not designed for this purpose (and don't work well for even what they were designed for).  I don't object to deleting the infobox, to avoid having these very kinds of discussions. [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]])  08:05, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
-::::::@[[User:SandyGeorgia|SandyGeorgia]]:The same goes for medicine. Memantine, dextroamphetamine, etc. And why RBD? Because it is common among people with DLB. My suggestion was not so important, Do whatever you think is best. But I think the management section can also be added to the infobox. Good luck <span style="-moz-border-radius:5px;margin:3px;border:solid 1px#A50021;background-color:#F5F5F5;">[[User:Pereoptic|<span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;">Pereoptic</span>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Pereoptic|Talk✉️]]&nbsp;</sup></span>&nbsp; 11:36, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
-:::::::The main treatments for DLB are the medications listed; the others are sometimes/maybe/sorta/kinda things to try. Infoboxes are not good for conveying any kind of information; that's why so many of us dislike them. Expanding them is not the solution; removing them and encouraging readers to ''read'' and digest nuance is. [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]])  12:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
-== Life expectancy ==
-{{u|Likeanechointheforest}} re [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dementia_with_Lewy_bodies&diff=1100590527&oldid=1098193463 this edit], please have a look at [[WP:MEDRS]], [[WP:FAOWN]] and [[WP:LEAD]].  Also, take a look at the [[Dementia_with_Lewy_bodies#Prognosis|Prognosis section of the article]], where variability and greater detail is explored.  I removed your edit because it added four citations to the lead, some non-MEDRS, without changing much other than providing a range around which the 2021 review number is based. LEADs are summaries of key points; we can't explore everything about life expectancy in the lead. [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]])  18:46, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
-:Armstrong (2021) supports the variability text (already in the infobox), so I have [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dementia_with_Lewy_bodies&diff=1100595783&oldid=1100593245 added this text]. [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]])  18:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)