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Your submission at Articles for creation: The Human Journey (May 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GoingBatty was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of websites). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please provide independent reliable sources that discusses the web site

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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GoingBatty (talk) 18:50, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, PA Packard! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! GoingBatty (talk) 18:50, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, PA Packard, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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I know you've been here a while, but see that you hadn't received a standard welcome message, which has some useful links, so I added one here. Please also see WP:INDENT when you have a chance. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 15:58, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your thread has been archived

Hi PA Packard! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, How to write an article about a website?, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days (usually at least two days, and sometimes four or more). You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to create a new thread.

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Your draft article, Draft:The Human Journey

Hello, PA Packard. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "The Human Journey".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:49, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Robert E. Ornstein

Hi, thanks for your additions to Robert E. Ornstein. Please note that external links (eg to the subject's web site and The Idries Shah Foundation's web site) should usually not be added to the main body of the text, and especially not in the lead sentence. Anyhow, thanks again. Regards, Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 20:27, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your corrections. I am not very familiar with wikipedia policy on external links.

By the way, do you think it would be apropriate to add external links to the Idries Shah Foundation and to the Robert Ornstein Youtube channel ? The youtube channel has several of his interviews about his works and I found it very informative. PA Packard (talk) 07:33, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I also was wondering if you knew in which cases it would be appropriate to add external links to the main body of the text? PA Packard (talk) 07:37, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The place for external links is the section at the bottom of the article, headed "External links". I've added the YouTube channel since that is directly relevant to the subject, but not a link to the ISF as that is not really relevant enough. That's about as many external links as we want really. Adding external links to the main body may be seen as being promotional (the same with using bold for book titles, rather than just italic). It's a Wikipedia article, not an advert, nor for promotional purposes.

The "See also" section is for internal wikilinks to other articles, so The Idries Shah Foundation is fine there.

Regards, Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 07:59, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, any significant facts that are added to the article really need to be cited to independent, reliable secondary sources, for the benefit of readers so they can verify the text, or else they could be challenged by other editors. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 08:08, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Hi, thanks for your corrections. I am not very familiar with wikipedia policy on external links.
 :By the way, do you think it would be apropriate to add external links to the Idries Shah Foundation and to the Robert Ornstein [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVF4qHWTiR4ZREqgDIj7u5w Youtube channel] ? The youtube channel has several of his interviews about his works and I found it very informative.  [[User:PA Packard|PA Packard]] ([[User talk:PA Packard#top|talk]]) 07:33, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
+:I also was wondering if you knew in which cases it would be appropriate to add external links to the main body of the text? [[User:PA Packard|PA Packard]] ([[User talk:PA Packard#top|talk]]) 07:37, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
+::Hi. The place for [[WP:EXT|external links]] is the section at the bottom of the article, headed "External links". I've added the YouTube channel since that is directly relevant to the subject, but not a link to the ISF as that is not really relevant enough. That's about as many external links as we want really. Adding external links to the main body may be seen as being promotional (the same with using bold for book titles, rather than just italic). It's a Wikipedia article, not an advert, nor for [[WP:PROMOTION|promotional purposes]].
+::The "See also" section is for internal wikilinks to other articles, so [[The Idries Shah Foundation]] is fine there.
+::Regards, <b>[[User:Esowteric|<span style="color: green;">Esowteric</span>]]<small> + [[User talk:Esowteric|<span style="color: blue;">Talk</span>]] + [[Special:Contributions/Esowteric|<span style="color: red;">Breadcrumbs</span>]]</small></b> 07:59, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
+::Also, any significant facts that are added to the article really need to be [[WP:CITE|cited]] to independent, [[WP:RS|reliable secondary sources]], for the benefit of readers so they can [[WP:VERIFY|verify]] the text, or else they could be challenged by other editors. <b>[[User:Esowteric|<span style="color: green;">Esowteric</span>]]<small> + [[User talk:Esowteric|<span style="color: blue;">Talk</span>]] + [[Special:Contributions/Esowteric|<span style="color: red;">Breadcrumbs</span>]]</small></b> 08:08, 12 August 2022 (UTC)