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| artist = [[Black Sabbath]] |
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| cover = Black Sabbath The Eternal Idol.jpg |
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| released = November 1987<ref>{{cite web|url=https://archive.org/details/greatrockdiscogr00stro/page/68/mode/2up|page=68|title=Great Rock discography}}</ref> |
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| recorded = October 1986 – March 1987 |
| recorded = October 1986 – March 1987 |
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| studio = *[[AIR Montserrat|AIR]] ([[Salem, Montserrat]]) |
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| studio = [[Associated Independent Recording#AIR Montserrat|Air Studios]], [[Montserrat]]<br />[[Associated Independent Recording#Oxford Street|Air Studios]] and Battery Studios, London, England |
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*[[Battery Studios|Battery]] (London, UK) |
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| genre = [[Heavy metal music|Heavy metal]]<ref name=AllMusic>{{cite web |url=https://www.allmusic.com/album/the-eternal-idol-mw0000193232 |title=The Eternal Idol |last=Rivadavia |first=Eduardo |work=[[AllMusic]] |access-date=October 1, 2021 }}</ref> |
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| genre = [[Heavy metal music|Heavy metal]]<ref name=allmusic/> |
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| length = 42:34 |
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| label = [[Vertigo Records|Vertigo]] |
| label = [[Vertigo Records|Vertigo]] |
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| producer = [[Jeff Glixman]], [[Vic Coppersmith-Heaven]], [[Chris Tsangarides]] |
| producer = [[Jeff Glixman]], [[Vic Coppersmith-Heaven]], [[Chris Tsangarides]] |
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| single1 = The Shining |
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'''''The Eternal Idol''''' is the thirteenth studio album by English [[ |
'''''The Eternal Idol''''' is the thirteenth studio album by English [[rock music|rock]] band [[Black Sabbath]], released in November 1987 in the UK and on 8 December 1987 in the US.<ref name=":0"/> It is the first Black Sabbath album to feature vocalist [[Tony Martin (British singer)|Tony Martin]]. It spent six weeks on the [[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' 200]] chart, peaking at 168.<ref name="Billboard 200">{{cite web|url={{BillboardURLbyName|artist=black sabbath|chart=Billboard 200}}|title=''The Eternal Idol'' album info|work=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]|access-date=3 August 2011}}</ref> It was also the last full album of new material by Black Sabbath to be released by [[Warner Records|Warner Bros. Records]] (in North America), and the final album through their original label [[Vertigo Records]] until the release of ''[[13 (Black Sabbath album)|13]]'' in 2013. |
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==Background and overview== |
==Background and overview== |
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The album sleeve |
The album sleeve erroneously credits [[Dave Spitz]] as bass player: the bass was actually played by [[Bob Daisley]]. [[Eric Singer]] played the drums, with the percussion credit for [[Bev Bevan]] being for a few cymbal overdubs on "Scarlet Pimpernel".<ref>{{cite book | last1 = Sharpe-Young | first1 = Garry | title = Black Sabbath: Never Say Die! 1979–1997 | chapter = 10 | publisher = [[Cherry Red Books]] | date = 1 September 2003 | location = London, UK | isbn = 978-1901447163}}</ref> |
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The album was originally to be recorded with Spitz and vocalist [[Ray Gillen]]. The former was replaced by bassist/lyricist Bob Daisley during initial sessions on [[Montserrat]] with producer [[Jeff Glixman]]. According to Daisley, Gillen had struggled with the lyrics, and management was not paying him<ref>{{cite book |last1=Stolz |first1=Nolan |title=Experiencing Black Sabbath: A Listener's Companion |date=2017 |publisher=Rowman and Littlefield |location=Lanham, MD |isbn=978-1-4422-5691-0 |page=131}}</ref> or the rest of the band. Gillen quit shortly after their return to England.<ref name="Hugh" >{{cite AV media notes |title=The Eternal Idol |others=Black Sabbath |year=1996 |first=Gilmour |last=Hugh |page=9 |type=CD Booklet |publisher= [[Castle Communications]] ESM CD 336 |location=England }}</ref> Gillen and |
The album was originally to be recorded with Spitz and vocalist [[Ray Gillen]]. The former was replaced by bassist/lyricist Bob Daisley during initial sessions on [[Montserrat]] with producer [[Jeff Glixman]]. According to Daisley, Gillen had struggled with the lyrics, and management was not paying him<ref>{{cite book |last1=Stolz |first1=Nolan |title=Experiencing Black Sabbath: A Listener's Companion |date=2017 |publisher=Rowman and Littlefield |location=Lanham, MD |isbn=978-1-4422-5691-0 |page=131}}</ref> or the rest of the band. Gillen quit shortly after their return to England.<ref name="Hugh" >{{cite AV media notes |title=The Eternal Idol |others=Black Sabbath |year=1996 |first=Gilmour |last=Hugh |page=9 |type=CD Booklet |publisher= [[Castle Communications]] ESM CD 336 |location=England }}</ref> Daisley worked on the album as a session player, turning down an offer to join the band as he was already committed to working with [[Gary Moore]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.black-sabbath.com/theband/timeline/|title=Black Sabbath Timeline}}</ref> Gillen and Singer, who left the band right after he finished his drum parts to join Daisley in Moore's touring band, later joined the band [[Badlands (American band)|Badlands]] with bassist [[Greg Chaisson]] and guitarist [[Jake E. Lee]], the latter of whom had recently been fired from original Black Sabbath singer [[Ozzy Osbourne]]'s solo band.<ref name="Hugh" /><ref>{{cite web|url=https://blabbermouth.net/news/jake-e-lee-says-he-found-out-he-was-fired-from-ozzy-osbournes-band-from-his-guitar-tech|title=JAKE E. LEE Says He Found Out He Was Fired From OZZY OSBOURNE's Band From His Guitar Tech|publisher=[[Blabbermouth.net]]|date=26 October 2018|access-date=23 February 2024}}</ref> |
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[[Tony Martin (British singer)|Tony Martin]] was hired and reconstructed the vocals under the guidance of [[Chris Tsangarides]] at Battery Studios shortly before production ended.<ref name="Hugh" /> Most tracks were written by Tony Iommi and Bob Daisley (the [[vinyl record|vinyl]] version states that all songs were written by Iommi) although some lyrics were modified by [[Geoff Nicholls]]. Martin said he "only sang on, and had no part in writing" ''The Eternal Idol'', but nonetheless "thought [it] was one of the better albums of the band."<ref>''Southern Cross'' No.10, May 1993</ref> |
A number of singers auditioned for Black Sabbath, including [[Jon Oliva]] of [[Savatage]] and a then-unknown [[Tony Martin (British singer)|Tony Martin]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://blabbermouth.net/news/jon-oliva-recalls-nearly-auditioning-for-black-sabbath-i-would-have-been-the-best-singer-for-them-besides-ozzy-osbourne|title=JON OLIVA Recalls Nearly Auditioning For BLACK SABBATH: 'I Would Have Been The Best Singer For Them Besides OZZY OSBOURNE'|publisher=[[Blabbermouth.net]]|date=3 May 2023|access-date=23 February 2024}}</ref> Martin was hired and reconstructed the vocals under the guidance of [[Chris Tsangarides]] at Battery Studios shortly before production ended.<ref name="Hugh" /> Most tracks were written by Tony Iommi and Bob Daisley (the [[vinyl record|vinyl]] version states that all songs were written by Iommi) although some lyrics were modified by [[Geoff Nicholls]]. Martin said he "only sang on, and had no part in writing" ''The Eternal Idol'', but nonetheless "thought [it] was one of the better albums of the band."<ref>''Southern Cross'' No.10, May 1993</ref> |
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The song "Nightmare" was initially written for the 1987 film ''[[A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors]]''.<ref>{{cite book |last=Stolz|first=Nolan |year =2017 |title=Experiencing Black Sabbath |publisher =Rowman & Littlefield}}</ref> |
The song "Nightmare" was initially written for the 1987 film ''[[A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors]]''.<ref>{{cite book |last=Stolz|first=Nolan |year =2017 |title=Experiencing Black Sabbath |publisher =Rowman & Littlefield}}</ref> |
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After Daisley's and Singer's departure, bassist Dave Spitz returned and drummer Bevan was hired for a 1987 tour in support of the album; however, soon |
After Daisley's and Singer's departure, bassist Dave Spitz returned and drummer Bev Bevan, who had previously been a member of Black Sabbath during mid 1983–early 1984, was hired for a 1987 tour in support of the album; however, soon Bevan backed out on learning that Sabbath had booked dates in South Africa during the [[apartheid]] crisis. |
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Bevan was replaced by former [[The Clash|Clash]] drummer [[Terry Chimes]], who appears in the music video for "The Shining". Spitz played bass for a few shows before Jo Burt (formerly of [[Virginia Wolf]]) was hired as the new bass player. |
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The tour was one of Sabbath's shortest, totaling 20 dates: one on [[Greece]] and 6-7 each in [[South Africa]], [[Germany]] and [[Italy]]<ref>{{Cite web |title=Search for setlists: tour:(Eternal Idol) {{!}} setlist.fm |url=https://www.setlist.fm/search?artist=33d6806d&query=tour:(Eternal+Idol) |access-date=2024-01-06 |website=www.setlist.fm}}</ref> |
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The video for "The Shining" was filmed in-between Spitz's departure and Burt's arrival. In 1993, Martin recalled, "The bass player in the 'Shining' video was some guy that we dragged off the street. I can't remember his name but he looked the part (In another interview Martin claims the musician's name was "Steve").<ref name=":0"/> He said that he was a guitarist. I remember he was always talking about how he was a [[Native Americans in the United States|Red Indian]], thus all the turquoise he wore! We never saw him again."<ref>{{cite magazine|first=Thierry|last=Bauwens|title=Interview: Tony Martin|magazine=Thank God It's Sabbath |date=February 1993}}</ref> |
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| rev1 = [[AllMusic]] |
| rev1 = [[AllMusic]] |
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| rev1Score = {{Rating|3|5}}<ref>{{cite web|last=Rivadavia |first=Eduardo |url={{AllMusic|class=album |id=r2012 |pure_url=yes}} |title=The Eternal Idol – Black Sabbath |website=[[AllMusic]] |access-date=2 August 2011}}</ref> |
| rev1Score = {{Rating|3|5}}<ref name=allmusic>{{cite web|last=Rivadavia |first=Eduardo |url={{AllMusic|class=album |id=r2012 |pure_url=yes}} |title=The Eternal Idol – Black Sabbath |website=[[AllMusic]] |access-date=2 August 2011}}</ref> |
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| rev4 = ''[[The Rolling Stone Album Guide]]'' |
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| rev4Score = {{Rating|2|5}}<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/black-sabbath/albumguide |title=Black Sabbath: Album Guide |magazine=[[Rolling Stone]] |access-date=5 June 2012 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120427215415/http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/black-sabbath/albumguide |archive-date=27 April 2012 |url-status=dead }}</ref> |
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| rev2 = ''[[Classic Rock (magazine)|Classic Rock]]'' |
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| rev2Score = 4/10<ref>{{cite book | last1 = Elliott| first1 = Paul | title = Classic Rock | chapter=Black Sabbath – Reissues| volume = 153 | publisher = [[Future plc]] | date = January 2011 | location = London, UK | pages = 112| title-link = Classic Rock (magazine) }}</ref> |
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| rev3 =''[[The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal]]'' |
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| rev3Score = 10/10<ref>{{cite book | last1 = Popoff | first1 = Martin | author-link1 = Martin Popoff | title = The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal: Volume 2: The Eighties | publisher = [[Collector's Guide Publishing]] | date = 1 November 2005 | isbn = 978-1-894959-31-5}}</ref> |
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''The Eternal Idol'' was released |
''The Eternal Idol'' was released in November 1987. The album spent six weeks on the [[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' 200]] chart, peaking at 168.<ref name="Billboard 200" /> A three-minute and fifteen second studio outtake titled "Some Kind of Woman", written by Tony Martin shortly after joining the band, appeared as a B-side of "The Shining" single. An early version of "Black Moon"—a song that would ultimately appear on the 1989 album ''[[Headless Cross (album)|Headless Cross]]''—was released as a B-side of the "Eternal Idol" single. |
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In 1997, reflecting to Sabbath [[fanzine]] ''Southern Cross'', Iommi stated, "I'd like to have seen some of the stuff off ''The Eternal Idol'' be a bit more credited, because I think there's some good tracks on that album"; he cited "Ancient Warrior" as one of those tracks.<ref>''Southern Cross'', No.19, March 1997</ref> |
In 1997, reflecting to Sabbath [[fanzine]] ''Southern Cross'', Iommi stated, "I'd like to have seen some of the stuff off ''The Eternal Idol'' be a bit more credited, because I think there's some good tracks on that album"; he cited "Ancient Warrior" as one of those tracks.<ref>''Southern Cross'', No.19, March 1997</ref> |
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The album was rereleased on 1 November 2010 in Europe as a two-disc expanded set. Bonus content includes the aforementioned b-sides "Some Kind of Woman" and "Black Moon" on disc 1. Disc 2 contains the session for the album recorded with [[Ray Gillen]] on vocals.<ref |
The album was rereleased on 1 November 2010 in Europe as a two-disc expanded set. Bonus content includes the aforementioned b-sides "Some Kind of Woman" and "Black Moon" on disc 1. Disc 2 contains the session for the album recorded with [[Ray Gillen]] on vocals.<ref name=":0"/><ref>{{cite web |last=Siegler |first=Joe |url=http://www.black-sabbath.com/news/2010/09/ray_gillen_eternal_idol_to_be_released.html |title=Black-Sabbath.com, Ray Gillen Eternal Idol to be released – FOR REAL! |publisher=Black-sabbath.com |date=15 September 2010 |access-date=2 August 2011 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110611134811/http://www.black-sabbath.com/news/2010/09/ray_gillen_eternal_idol_to_be_released.html |archive-date=11 June 2011 }}</ref> |
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==Track listing== |
==Track listing== |
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|title1 = The Shining |
|title1 = The Shining |
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|title2 = Ancient Warrior |
|title2 = Ancient Warrior |
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|length2 = 5:35 |
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|title3 = Hard Life to Love |
|title3 = Hard Life to Love |
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|title4 = Glory Ride |
|title4 = Glory Ride |
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|headline = Side B |
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|title5 = Born to Lose |
|title5 = Born to Lose |
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|length5 = 3:43 |
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|title6 = Nightmare |
|title6 = Nightmare |
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|length6 = 5:21 |
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|title7 = Scarlet Pimpernel |
|title7 = Scarlet Pimpernel |
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|note7 = instrumental |
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|title8 = Lost Forever |
|title8 = Lost Forever |
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|length8 = 4:03 |
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|title9 = Eternal Idol |
|title9 = Eternal Idol |
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===2010 deluxe edition Disc 2=== |
===2010 deluxe edition Disc 2=== |
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Disc 2 of the 2010 deluxe edition consists of the earlier recording sessions, with Ray Gillen on vocals. |
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|title3 = Lost Forever |
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|title4 = Eternal Idol |
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|title6 = Hard Life to Love |
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==Personnel== |
==Personnel== |
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'''Black Sabbath''' |
'''Black Sabbath''' |
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*[[Tony Iommi]] – guitars |
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*[[Eric Singer]] – drums |
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*[[Bob Daisley]] – bass |
*[[Bob Daisley]] – bass |
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*[[Geoff Nicholls]] – keyboards |
*[[Geoff Nicholls]] – keyboards, plus bass on “Black Moon” |
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'''Additional personnel''' |
'''Additional personnel''' |
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* Dave "The Beast" Spitz – bass on "Some Kind of Woman" |
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*[[Bev Bevan]] – percussion, cymbal overdubs (on "Scarlet Pimpernel" and "Eternal Idol") |
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'''Technical personnel''' |
'''Technical personnel''' |
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*[[Jeff Glixman]] – producer, engineer at [[Associated Independent Recording]] Studios |
*[[Jeff Glixman]] – producer, engineer at [[Associated Independent Recording]] Studios Montserrat |
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*[[Vic Coppersmith-Heaven]] – producer, engineer at [[Associated Independent Recording]] Studios London |
*[[Vic Coppersmith-Heaven]] – producer, engineer at [[Associated Independent Recording]] Studios London |
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*[[Chris Tsangarides]] – producer, engineer and mixing at Battery Studios, London |
*[[Chris Tsangarides]] – producer, engineer and mixing at Battery Studios, London |
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| 8 December 1987<ref name=":0">{{cite web|url=https://www.black-sabbath.com/discography/blacksabbath/eternalidol/|title=The Eternal Idol – Black Sabbath Online|publisher=Black Sabbath Online|access-date=28 January 2024}}</ref> |
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| 8 December 1987 |
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!scope="row"| Finnish Albums ([[The Official Finnish Charts]])<ref name=FINI>{{cite book|last=Pennanen|first=Timo|title=Sisältää hitin – levyt ja esittäjät Suomen musiikkilistoilla vuodesta 1972|edition=1st|publisher=Kustannusosakeyhtiö Otava|location=Helsinki|year=2006|isbn=978-951-1-21053-5 | language= fi}}</ref> |
!scope="row"| Finnish Albums ([[The Official Finnish Charts]])<ref name=FINI>{{cite book|last=Pennanen|first=Timo|title=Sisältää hitin – levyt ja esittäjät Suomen musiikkilistoilla vuodesta 1972|edition=1st|publisher=Kustannusosakeyhtiö Otava|location=Helsinki|year=2006|isbn=978-951-1-21053-5 | language= fi}}</ref> |
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{{album chart|UK2|66|date=19871122|rowheader=true|access-date=October 30, 2023}} |
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The Eternal Idol | ||||
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Released | November 1987[1] | |||
Recorded | October 1986 – March 1987 | |||
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Genre | Heavy metal[2] | |||
Length | 43:24 | |||
Label | Vertigo | |||
Producer | Jeff Glixman, Vic Coppersmith-Heaven, Chris Tsangarides | |||
Black Sabbath chronology | ||||
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Singles from The Eternal Idol | ||||
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The Eternal Idol is the thirteenth studio album by English rock band Black Sabbath, released in November 1987 in the UK and on 8 December 1987 in the US.[3] It is the first Black Sabbath album to feature vocalist Tony Martin. It spent six weeks on the Billboard 200 chart, peaking at 168.[4] It was also the last full album of new material by Black Sabbath to be released by Warner Bros. Records (in North America), and the final album through their original label Vertigo Records until the release of 13 in 2013.
Background and overview
[edit]The album sleeve erroneously credits Dave Spitz as bass player: the bass was actually played by Bob Daisley. Eric Singer played the drums, with the percussion credit for Bev Bevan being for a few cymbal overdubs on "Scarlet Pimpernel".[5]
The album was originally to be recorded with Spitz and vocalist Ray Gillen. The former was replaced by bassist/lyricist Bob Daisley during initial sessions on Montserrat with producer Jeff Glixman. According to Daisley, Gillen had struggled with the lyrics, and management was not paying him[6] or the rest of the band. Gillen quit shortly after their return to England.[7] Daisley worked on the album as a session player, turning down an offer to join the band as he was already committed to working with Gary Moore.[8] Gillen and Singer, who left the band right after he finished his drum parts to join Daisley in Moore's touring band, later joined the band Badlands with bassist Greg Chaisson and guitarist Jake E. Lee, the latter of whom had recently been fired from original Black Sabbath singer Ozzy Osbourne's solo band.[7][9]
A number of singers auditioned for Black Sabbath, including Jon Oliva of Savatage and a then-unknown Tony Martin.[10] Martin was hired and reconstructed the vocals under the guidance of Chris Tsangarides at Battery Studios shortly before production ended.[7] Most tracks were written by Tony Iommi and Bob Daisley (the vinyl version states that all songs were written by Iommi) although some lyrics were modified by Geoff Nicholls. Martin said he "only sang on, and had no part in writing" The Eternal Idol, but nonetheless "thought [it] was one of the better albums of the band."[11]
The song "Nightmare" was initially written for the 1987 film A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors.[12]
After Daisley's and Singer's departure, bassist Dave Spitz returned and drummer Bev Bevan, who had previously been a member of Black Sabbath during mid 1983–early 1984, was hired for a 1987 tour in support of the album; however, soon Bevan backed out on learning that Sabbath had booked dates in South Africa during the apartheid crisis.
Bevan was replaced by former Clash drummer Terry Chimes, who appears in the music video for "The Shining". Spitz played bass for a few shows before Jo Burt (formerly of Virginia Wolf) was hired as the new bass player.
The tour was one of Sabbath's shortest, totaling 20 dates: one on Greece and 6-7 each in South Africa, Germany and Italy[13]
The video for "The Shining" was filmed in-between Spitz's departure and Burt's arrival. In 1993, Martin recalled, "The bass player in the 'Shining' video was some guy that we dragged off the street. I can't remember his name but he looked the part (In another interview Martin claims the musician's name was "Steve").[3] He said that he was a guitarist. I remember he was always talking about how he was a Red Indian, thus all the turquoise he wore! We never saw him again."[14]
Cover art
[edit]The album cover features two models in bronze paint re-enacting Auguste Rodin's 1889 sculpture "The Eternal Idol". Due to the paint's toxicity, the models were hospitalized after the shoot. A photograph of the original sculpture was intended as the cover art, but permission could not be secured.[15]
Release and reception
[edit]Review scores | |
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Source | Rating |
AllMusic | [2] |
Classic Rock | 4/10[17] |
The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal | 10/10[18] |
The Rolling Stone Album Guide | [16] |
The Eternal Idol was released in November 1987. The album spent six weeks on the Billboard 200 chart, peaking at 168.[4] A three-minute and fifteen second studio outtake titled "Some Kind of Woman", written by Tony Martin shortly after joining the band, appeared as a B-side of "The Shining" single. An early version of "Black Moon"—a song that would ultimately appear on the 1989 album Headless Cross—was released as a B-side of the "Eternal Idol" single.
In 1997, reflecting to Sabbath fanzine Southern Cross, Iommi stated, "I'd like to have seen some of the stuff off The Eternal Idol be a bit more credited, because I think there's some good tracks on that album"; he cited "Ancient Warrior" as one of those tracks.[19]
The album was rereleased on 1 November 2010 in Europe as a two-disc expanded set. Bonus content includes the aforementioned b-sides "Some Kind of Woman" and "Black Moon" on disc 1. Disc 2 contains the session for the album recorded with Ray Gillen on vocals.[3][20]
Track listing
[edit]Standard edition
[edit]Music by Tony Iommi; lyrics by Bob Daisley and Geoff Nicholls with contributions from Ray Gillen. "Black Moon" and "Some Kind of Woman" lyrics by Tony Martin and Geoff Nicholls.
No. | Title | Length |
---|---|---|
1. | "The Shining" | 6:01 |
2. | "Ancient Warrior" | 5:35 |
3. | "Hard Life to Love" | 5:00 |
4. | "Glory Ride" | 4:50 |
No. | Title | Length |
---|---|---|
5. | "Born to Lose" | 3:43 |
6. | "Nightmare" | 5:21 |
7. | "Scarlet Pimpernel" (instrumental) | 2:07 |
8. | "Lost Forever" | 4:03 |
9. | "Eternal Idol" | 6:34 |
No. | Title | Length |
---|---|---|
10. | "Black Moon" (single B-side) | 3:39 |
11. | "Some Kind of Woman" (single B-side) | 3:15 |
2010 deluxe edition Disc 2
[edit]Disc 2 of the 2010 deluxe edition consists of the earlier recording sessions, with Ray Gillen on vocals.
No. | Title | Length |
---|---|---|
1. | "Glory Ride" | 5:21 |
2. | "Born to Lose" | 3:41 |
3. | "Lost Forever" | 4:17 |
4. | "Eternal Idol" | 6:48 |
5. | "The Shining" | 6:30 |
6. | "Hard Life to Love" | 5:19 |
7. | "Nightmare" | 4:49 |
8. | "Ancient Warrior" | 4:54 |
Personnel
[edit]Black Sabbath
- Tony Iommi – guitars
- Tony Martin – vocals
- Eric Singer – drums
- Bob Daisley – bass
- Geoff Nicholls – keyboards, plus bass on “Black Moon”
Additional personnel
- Dave "The Beast" Spitz – bass on "Some Kind of Woman"
- Bev Bevan – percussion and cymbal overdubs on "Scarlet Pimpernel"
- Ray Gillen – vocals on 2010 deluxe edition Disc 2, sinister laugh on "Nightmare"
Technical personnel
- Jeff Glixman – producer, engineer at Associated Independent Recording Studios Montserrat
- Vic Coppersmith-Heaven – producer, engineer at Associated Independent Recording Studios London
- Chris Tsangarides – producer, engineer and mixing at Battery Studios, London
Release history
[edit]Region | Date | Label |
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United Kingdom | November 1987 | Vertigo Records |
United States | 8 December 1987[3] | Warner Bros. Records |
Canada | 1987 | Warner Bros. Records |
United Kingdom | April 1996 | Castle Communications |
United Kingdom | 25 October 2004 | Sanctuary Records |
United Kingdom | 16 November 2010 (2 CD) | Sanctuary Records/Universal Music Group |
Charts
[edit]Chart (1987–1988) | Peak position |
---|---|
Canada Top Albums/CDs (RPM)[21] | 86 |
Finnish Albums (The Official Finnish Charts)[22] | 25 |
UK Albums (OCC)[23] | 66 |
US Billboard 200[24] | 168 |
References
[edit]- ^ "Great Rock discography". p. 68.
- ^ a b Rivadavia, Eduardo. "The Eternal Idol – Black Sabbath". AllMusic. Retrieved 2 August 2011.
- ^ a b c d "The Eternal Idol – Black Sabbath Online". Black Sabbath Online. Retrieved 28 January 2024.
- ^ a b "The Eternal Idol album info". Billboard. Retrieved 3 August 2011.
- ^ Sharpe-Young, Garry (1 September 2003). "10". Black Sabbath: Never Say Die! 1979–1997. London, UK: Cherry Red Books. ISBN 978-1901447163.
- ^ Stolz, Nolan (2017). Experiencing Black Sabbath: A Listener's Companion. Lanham, MD: Rowman and Littlefield. p. 131. ISBN 978-1-4422-5691-0.
- ^ a b c Hugh, Gilmour (1996). The Eternal Idol (CD Booklet). Black Sabbath. England: Castle Communications ESM CD 336. p. 9.
- ^ "Black Sabbath Timeline".
- ^ "JAKE E. LEE Says He Found Out He Was Fired From OZZY OSBOURNE's Band From His Guitar Tech". Blabbermouth.net. 26 October 2018. Retrieved 23 February 2024.
- ^ "JON OLIVA Recalls Nearly Auditioning For BLACK SABBATH: 'I Would Have Been The Best Singer For Them Besides OZZY OSBOURNE'". Blabbermouth.net. 3 May 2023. Retrieved 23 February 2024.
- ^ Southern Cross No.10, May 1993
- ^ Stolz, Nolan (2017). Experiencing Black Sabbath. Rowman & Littlefield.
- ^ "Search for setlists: tour:(Eternal Idol) | setlist.fm". www.setlist.fm. Retrieved 6 January 2024.
- ^ Bauwens, Thierry (February 1993). "Interview: Tony Martin". Thank God It's Sabbath.
- ^ Iommi, Tony. Black Sabbath: My Journey through Heaven and Hell.
- ^ "Black Sabbath: Album Guide". Rolling Stone. Archived from the original on 27 April 2012. Retrieved 5 June 2012.
- ^ Elliott, Paul (January 2011). "Black Sabbath – Reissues". Classic Rock. Vol. 153. London, UK: Future plc. p. 112.
- ^ Popoff, Martin (1 November 2005). The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal: Volume 2: The Eighties. Collector's Guide Publishing. ISBN 978-1-894959-31-5.
- ^ Southern Cross, No.19, March 1997
- ^ Siegler, Joe (15 September 2010). "Black-Sabbath.com, Ray Gillen Eternal Idol to be released – FOR REAL!". Black-sabbath.com. Archived from the original on 11 June 2011. Retrieved 2 August 2011.
- ^ "Top RPM Albums: Issue 0922". RPM. Library and Archives Canada. Retrieved October 30, 2023.
- ^ Pennanen, Timo (2006). Sisältää hitin – levyt ja esittäjät Suomen musiikkilistoilla vuodesta 1972 (in Finnish) (1st ed.). Helsinki: Kustannusosakeyhtiö Otava. ISBN 978-951-1-21053-5.
- ^ "Official Albums Chart Top 100". Official Charts Company. Retrieved October 30, 2023.
- ^ "Black Sabbath Chart History (Billboard 200)". Billboard. Retrieved October 30, 2023.
External links
[edit]- The Eternal Idol at Discogs (list of releases)
- Eternal Idol at Black Sabbath Online
- Sample tracks at Rolling Stone