Talk:Social skills

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Rewrite

This page needs a complete rewrite and overhaul. It's simply a list of four bullet-pointed sentences that don't flow well together, and all the points could use much more coverage. Szyslak 22:47, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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]] Basic rewrite, the article is still in list form but expanded and a few links were added. Still needs work. JollyJeanGiant 01:34, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

-- This article is completely useless. It either needs a major rewrite or deletion. Also, what on earth are "muscle words?" It sounds like someone just made that up. Paultopia 14:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC) Same question, someone define muscle words pleaseKenallen 06:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

My guess is that "Muscle Words" was the name the writer gave to words that would help exclaim a statement or idea, like powerful adjectives to add intensity to a statement or idea. Does that make sense? -- BW

Someone should specify whether "muscle words" imply active voice. Kenallen 00:57, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

"muscle words": seems like it needs a TM or ®, like it's taken from a commercial course or book. --Winkidinki (talk) 15:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Yup. It doesn't sound much like a dictionary with phrases like "Not to mention that...". It sounds like we are having a chat, erm...socially. Fletcherbrian (talk) 18:37, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

"Verbal communication" re Rewrite Rewrite...

As an engineer (heh heh heh...) who has actually worked on my social skills ...

The big red flag I saw with Sharing of Jokes and other sharing, is that they should be Appropriate Use of Jokes, Appropriate Topics of Discussion, or some better terminology. (Trust me, humor tends to get mixed reviews in social contexts...)

I do not think this article is quite THAT useless, but it certainly needs better paragraphing and eloboration (and Wikification...)

Thank you for your time.  :-) Bwefler 20:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Stuttering

Logged out to protect anonymity, what's the odds of getting any consensus on the stuttering reference being removed? Many stutterers have excellent social skills. I have a stutter myself, and am personally very offended by this. 82.152.193.74 22:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Close to none, I'm afraid. Maccore Henni _{Mii! Pictochat Mii!} (Note: respond on minha (my) talk page in some manner) 20:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

It was removed in 2008, twelve years ago. [1] Normal Op (talk) 20:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

This made by flesh creep

What an insincere calculating oily creature the person with "polished social skills" seems to be! We might call him Tony Blair. Honbicot 22:44, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

The point of social skills is to be able to adjust others' mental state towards one in which they will be cooperative in meeting one's needs. By definition, this is known as manipulation. Though the word manipulation has a bad air -- it evokes the image of the exploitative confidence artist -- it is what anyone and everyone does, constantly, in the process of negotiating social situations. Whether a person with polished social skills may be seen as a "calculating oily creature" depends on the purposes and intentions of the person exercising them, and how one-sided (as opposed to mutual) the benefits of the agreements reached by that negotiation are.

For example, a top-notch used car salesman uses manipulative social skills to exact the maximum price for a car, and also to distract the mark from inspecting the car with due diligence. On the other hand, psych nurses use manipulative social skills, by any ethical means available, to secure rapport with people who may be intensely paranoid for the purpose of therapeutic communication. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.172.206 (talk) 17:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

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"pretentious crap" template?Rich 16:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I apologize for my above rude question/remark. Someone has put thought and hard work into this article. The problem might be that one editor has an abstract animal behaviorist point of view, while a different editor is writing for us humans. Anyway, the article is depressing. It might make a Martian wonder why anyone should spend time learning social skills. I put a cleanup tag on it just now.Rich 23:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

this page does not need a rewrite!

I thought it was written in a very sensitive and mature manner. In a, er, socially skillful manner. What it does need though, are reliable sources. Peer reviewd journals, books on social science, whatever. It is a little unorganized but it can be easily fixed. One topic it neglects though, is how "social skills" may be misused in a bullying context.

For instance; a person may be accused of "lacking social skills" right? They may be perfectly polite, perfectly gentlemanly (or ladylike), etc, and the general excuse for mistreating them is "lack of social skills" when, the real reason is because, say, she is morbidly obese. That is, there seems to be a lot of childish, immature people out there, who use the lack of "social skills" terminology in a derogatory manner, when the real reason a group of people mistreats or rejects another, may be malice paired with arrogance.

That is, its not so much a "lack of social skills" which isolates some individuals, so much as the prejudices, immaturity, and malicious arrogant behavior of some individuals. Of course, that is only a phenomenon seen in western culture, or for that manner any culture where people take excessive, almost arrogant pride in their heritage. To cut white people some slack, middle easterners often tend to be far more arrogant. In those cultures, the arrogance can be intolerable in some people.

Still, the neutral, almost cold manner this article was written does deserve praise. All it needs is some slight organizational editing, and the addition of sources.

206.63.78.76 22:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)stardingo747

What does this mean?

"Some believe that social ineptitude should be accommodated, not exterminated." I don't see any efforts to "exterminate" social ineptitude. Can somebody clarify this or remove it?

Nomophobia

Poor little Nomophobia. It's an orphan, and it could use a link on this article. We've given Computer widow a link, and nomophobia seems just as relevant to the topic. Star Trek Enthusiast (talk) 19:40, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. – GorillaWarfare ^{talk • contribs} 03:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

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Social skill → Social skills — IMO the term is used rather infrequently in singular form. Texts about social skills in general usually speak about the whole complex of them, not just about a single skill. If you use google search for phrase "social skill" you will see that it is usually an adjectival: "social skill training", "social skill probelms" etc., which clearly stand for, e.g., "training of social skills", rather than "training of a social skill". --Muslim lo Juheu (talk) 23:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

• Support; this is one of the exceptions to our "use the singular" guideline. Powers ^T 23:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support, the literature seems to be about these skills as a general concept, not about specific ones (if there even are specific ones defined).--Kotniski (talk) 10:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

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Depression

Can depression impair social skills? --91.157.12.243 (talk) 19:11, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes. I don't have sources though. However, people who are depressed usually are more preoccupied and direct more attention to their own well-being (or lack thereof). This can make them less observant of others, and less interested in other people. They might also feel that it is too much of a burden to try to be sociable when they feel unhappy. Lova Falk talk 19:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm thinking the same. I found some research papers: http://journals.lww.com/jonmd/Abstract/2004/04000/The_Impact_of_Depression_on_Social_Skills__A.2.aspx, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272735898001044 --91.157.12.243 (talk) 19:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

It was a bit depressing to read that there is an apparently unbreakable viscious circle though. Gomez2002 (talk) 12:01, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Merge from People skills, Soft skills

Both "social" and "people" skills are defined essentially the same: skills which facilitate interaction among people. And "soft skills"/"hard skills" is nothing but an inept monkey-copy from technobabble (cf. software/hardware) and the article is essentially unreferenced. I smell neologism. The reading listed is about people/social skills. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:30, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I do not agree with merge. They may overlap but they are distinct concepts and more than neologisms.--Penbat (talk) 18:15, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, nothing in the articles suggest that "people skills" is something other than "social skills". Please prove your point. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:13, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I too do not agree with merge. But i would like to see difference between these similar concepts in the article, to avoid future misconceptions.59.89.237.40 (talk) 18:21, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Psychopathy in the workplace

This is to avoid edit war and reverts, I skimmed through the book Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work and the article mentioned. Its only after that this edit was made, what the edit and sub-title says is about deficits, causes and outcomes. I believe this revision shows it clearly rather than simply mentioning social skills, the previous edit if read looks like something is missing. I would say the new edit is appropriate. Like to hear constructive feedback. Trimming is an option, if the content reflects informatively.117.215.192.74 (talk) 20:15, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

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Depression

Depression is not a source of poor social skills, it might be actually something else that result in both. I.e. a complete poverty. AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 08:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)