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| the original version of Ramadan it has no later “Z” it should be Pronounced as it it’s with out adding any different laters such as Z anyone can ready the holly book Quran Ramadan was mentioned and has no later Z https://www.islam4u.com/ar/daily-questions/كم-مرة-ذكر-رمضان-في-القران-؟-و-في-اي-سورة-؟ url=http://www.virginislandsdailynews.com/index.pl/article_features?id=7607792}} |
| the original version of Ramadan it has no later “Z” it should be Pronounced as it it’s with out adding any different laters such as Z anyone can ready the holly book Quran Ramadan was mentioned and has no later Z https://www.islam4u.com/ar/daily-questions/كم-مرة-ذكر-رمضان-في-القران-؟-و-في-اي-سورة-؟ url=http://www.virginislandsdailynews.com/index.pl/article_features?id=7607792}} |
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== Ramadan == |
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The date of start of Ramadan needs to be changed, from 22nd March to 23rd March. Thank you if someone changes it. [[Special:Contributions/114.29.226.43|114.29.226.43]] ([[User talk:114.29.226.43|talk]]) 10:52, 23 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:The period technically starts at sunset the day before the first full-day of fasting, I believe. [[User:Iskandar323|Iskandar323]] ([[User talk:Iskandar323|talk]]) 11:25, 23 March 2023 (UTC) |
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Change "ramidha" in the Etymology section to "ramiḍa". This simply makes the romanization more consistent with the one used in the lead section. |
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[[User:MultilingualTaco|MultilingualTaco]] ([[User talk:MultilingualTaco|talk]]) 04:22, 20 September 2021 (UTC) |
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Please add the “رمضان“ under “Kashmiri” language. I see there are many languages but Kashmiri is missing. Kashmiri people who observe Ramadhan are all around the globle. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/2405:201:5503:C108:F552:86B4:8F6C:7E61|2405:201:5503:C108:F552:86B4:8F6C:7E61]] ([[User talk:2405:201:5503:C108:F552:86B4:8F6C:7E61|talk]]) 00:37, 24 March 2023 (UTC) |
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Get ur rutytytt [[Special:Contributions/196.223.148.63|196.223.148.63]] ([[User talk:196.223.148.63|talk]]) 13:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC) |
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== Can i use some paragraphs of this wikipedia entry for one of my journals == |
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Salam Alaikom |
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[[User:Ajama329|Ajama329]] ([[User talk:Ajama329|talk]]) 17:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Imagine not eating or drinking from sunrise to sunset every day for 30 days straight. Well, Muslims do that one month every year and that month is called Ramadan which is the 9th month in the Islamic calendar. What is Ramadan and what does it mean what is the purpose for fasting for 30 days and who is obligated to fast if you are at the age where you can fast it is obligated to do so. If you are a child elder or woman who is on their period they are not allowed to fast. Ramadan is meant to be the time of spiritual cleansing, It is meant to show how to do the poor feel without eating and drinking and the duty to help them and be thankful for self-improvement and being a better person for themselves. |
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Thank you [[Special:Contributions/143.93.42.189|143.93.42.189]] ([[User talk:143.93.42.189|talk]]) 15:31, 29 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Ramadan and tourists == |
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:143.93.42.189 [[Special:Contributions/2404:1C40:D3:94BD:6465:16FF:FED4:3AD7|2404:1C40:D3:94BD:6465:16FF:FED4:3AD7]] ([[User talk:2404:1C40:D3:94BD:6465:16FF:FED4:3AD7|talk]]) 00:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Redundancies and long-winded writing (part 1) == |
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== Weak Etymology, Weaksources == |
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"Exemptions from fasting include those traveling, menstruating, severely ill, pregnant, or breastfeeding. However, Muslims in these categories may still choose to fast in order to satisfy their spiritual needs, even though it is not recommended by hadith." --- I suggest writing "Exemptions from fasting may include those traveling, menstruating, severely ill..." and then cutting the second sentence. Then it would be obvious that anyone who wants to fast can always do so. The business about spiritual needs is not for us to decide (many religious actions are not motivated by "spiritual needs") and should be deleted in any case. --[[User:Melchior2006|Melchior2006]] ([[User talk:Melchior2006|talk]]) 14:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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The sources cited for Ramadan being a name is weak and contradictory and in another language. If you can actually read it you would have know the sources themselves cite it as of dubious authenticity. The hadiths being cited themselves say "It could be a name for God" rather than say it is. See here for further information http://www.tasfiatarbia.org/vb/showthread.php?p=70974 <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.206.16.115|128.206.16.115]] ([[User talk:128.206.16.115#top|talk]]) 00:25, 1 May 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Carried out. Thanks. -- [[User:Melchior2006|Melchior2006]] ([[User talk:Melchior2006|talk]]) 14:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Redundancies and long-winded writing (part 2) == |
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"In addition to abstaining from eating and drinking during this time, Muslims abstain from sexual relations and sinful speech and behaviour during Ramadan fasting or month." Since we had "during this time" in the first part of the sentence, it is redundant to state "during Ramadan" at the end of the sentence. I suggest cutting the long-winded repetition. -- [[User:Melchior2006|Melchior2006]] ([[User talk:Melchior2006|talk]]) 14:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Thank you. – [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:C060:8A01:2143:B1C4:1F66:F4AA|2804:F14:C060:8A01:2143:B1C4:1F66:F4AA]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:C060:8A01:2143:B1C4:1F66:F4AA|talk]]) 12:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:Carried out. Thanks. -- [[User:Melchior2006|Melchior2006]] ([[User talk:Melchior2006|talk]]) 14:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Redundancies and long-winded writing (part 3) == |
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== Muharram Fasting of Alevis == |
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"Muslims believe that Ramadan teaches them ... sacrifice, and empathy for those who are less fortunate" -- then we have at the end of the sentence: "fasting helps instill compassion for the food-insecure poor." Since "less fortunate" was at the beginning, "food-insecure poor" at the end is redundant. I suggest cutting the long-winded repetition. -- [[User:Melchior2006|Melchior2006]] ([[User talk:Melchior2006|talk]]) 14:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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I am really not sure if that would worth to mention in the article, but [[Alevi]]s are not fasting in Ramadan but in Muharram and it takes 12 days.[[User:Cemyildiz|Cemyildiz]] ([[User talk:Cemyildiz|talk]]) 01:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:Carried out. Thanks. -- [[User:Melchior2006|Melchior2006]] ([[User talk:Melchior2006|talk]]) 14:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]"Allah Kabir met Prophet Moohamd and showed him Jannat. And there is no evidence of fasting giving spiritual benefits in the scripture of any religion.[66]"
The Prophet's name is Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the citation doesn't support the claim that fasting provides no spiritual benefits
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[edit]It's important because your sins can be forgiven in this month 92.8.229.78 (talk) 19:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, the date needs to be changed
[edit]The date of start of Ramadan needs to be changed, from 22nd March to 23rd March. Thank you if someone changes it. 114.29.226.43 (talk) 10:52, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- The period technically starts at sunset the day before the first full-day of fasting, I believe. Iskandar323 (talk) 11:25, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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Please add the “رمضان“ under “Kashmiri” language. I see there are many languages but Kashmiri is missing. Kashmiri people who observe Ramadhan are all around the globle. Thank you. 2405:201:5503:C108:F552:86B4:8F6C:7E61 (talk) 00:37, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 00:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Get ur rutytytt 196.223.148.63 (talk) 13:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Can i use some paragraphs of this wikipedia entry for one of my journals
[edit]Salam Alaikom
Can i use some paragraphs of this wikipedia entry for one of my journals?
Thank you 143.93.42.189 (talk) 15:31, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- 143.93.42.189 2404:1C40:D3:94BD:6465:16FF:FED4:3AD7 (talk) 00:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Redundancies and long-winded writing (part 1)
[edit]"Exemptions from fasting include those traveling, menstruating, severely ill, pregnant, or breastfeeding. However, Muslims in these categories may still choose to fast in order to satisfy their spiritual needs, even though it is not recommended by hadith." --- I suggest writing "Exemptions from fasting may include those traveling, menstruating, severely ill..." and then cutting the second sentence. Then it would be obvious that anyone who wants to fast can always do so. The business about spiritual needs is not for us to decide (many religious actions are not motivated by "spiritual needs") and should be deleted in any case. --Melchior2006 (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Carried out. Thanks. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Redundancies and long-winded writing (part 2)
[edit]"In addition to abstaining from eating and drinking during this time, Muslims abstain from sexual relations and sinful speech and behaviour during Ramadan fasting or month." Since we had "during this time" in the first part of the sentence, it is redundant to state "during Ramadan" at the end of the sentence. I suggest cutting the long-winded repetition. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Carried out. Thanks. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Redundancies and long-winded writing (part 3)
[edit]"Muslims believe that Ramadan teaches them ... sacrifice, and empathy for those who are less fortunate" -- then we have at the end of the sentence: "fasting helps instill compassion for the food-insecure poor." Since "less fortunate" was at the beginning, "food-insecure poor" at the end is redundant. I suggest cutting the long-winded repetition. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Carried out. Thanks. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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