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= July 27 =
= December 21 =


==[[Marshall Brooks]]==
== Making a Wikipedia page ==


This page is great but I placed the name by which he was known on top of the info box - should it be inside it ? (please see my citation which has his full title: The Hon. Marshall Jones Brooks)
To whom it may concern
I just sing up in Wikipedia because I want to make biography page for one of my astonishing professors. It would be highly appreciated if you guide me how can make this new page?


Thank you [[User:Srbernadette|Srbernadette]] ([[User talk:Srbernadette|talk]]) 02:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Best Regards
Saeideh Salehizadeh, [[User:Saeideh.slz|Saeideh.slz]] ([[User talk:Saeideh.slz|talk]]) 11:43, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


:Full name and title can be placed in either the lede sentence or the infobox. [[User:Tutwakhamoe|Tutwakhamoe]] ([[User talk:Tutwakhamoe|talk]]) 03:35, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Saeideh.slz|Saeideh.slz]] Some introductory reading for you: [[WP:Writing Wikipedia articles backward]], [[WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing]] and [[WP:Your first article]].
:The summary of these may be that you ''can't'' make an acceptable WP-article about your professor, most people don't qualify for one, but it depends on the sources you can provide. Good luck! [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
::{{u|Saeideh.slz}}, please also read about the [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], and leave out words like "astonishing". [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 17:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


::: I cannot work out how to place the name and title IN the actual info box. Please assist. Thank you [[User:Srbernadette|Srbernadette]] ([[User talk:Srbernadette|talk]]) 08:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
== Creating an article ==
::::@[[User:Srbernadette|Srbernadette]] I think that the infobox "rugby biography" is designed so the name doesn't go into the box. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_rugby_biography/testcases this example] in the template documentation. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 12:02, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


== I wished Wikipedia supported wallpapers in pages... ==
Before creating an article, is there any section/page that I need to refer to if that particular article has already been rejected or in creation by someone else? Or should I proceed to create it anyways? Please advise [[User:Jeraxmoira|Jeraxmoira]] ([[User talk:Jeraxmoira|talk]]) 13:19, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
:If it's been ''rejected'' (rather than declined), that means that in the opinion of the reviewer the subject was not [[WP:N|notable]] enough to warrant an article here on English-language Wikipedia, so you would be wasting your time trying to recreate it. Can you tell us what the subject is? [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 13:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
:I think you're asking to check if the article you want to create has been deleted before or already exists in draft form? Have a check of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete and search for the article name, and likewise at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns118=1. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you. I will take a look at the delete and draft logs once. I am trying to create articles for the technicians of Indian Cinema. [[User:Jeraxmoira|Jeraxmoira]] ([[User talk:Jeraxmoira|talk]]) 16:01, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


It would be even more awesome if we could change the wallpaper of pages in Wikipedia. But the fonts' colors could change to adapt to the wallpaper. The button for that might look like this: [[File:Gnome-settings-background.png]] [[Change wallpaper]] [[User:Gnu779|Gnu779]] ([[User talk:Gnu779|talk]]) 10:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
== RFK jr ==


:Hello, @[[User:Gnu779|Gnu779]]. The place to suggest features is [[WP:VPR]] [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi, RFK Jr is clearly not Anti-Vaccine, he has a concern about ONE of hunderds of Vaccines. To say he is promoting Anti-Vaccine misinformation is misinformation in itself. This should be edited, again he clearly has a problem with one vaccine and advocates better testing which is good for ALL of us
::Thanks! You replied quickly! [[User:Gnu779|Gnu779]] ([[User talk:Gnu779|talk]]) 11:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Regards,
:::I will add that personally, I do not want the WP developers to spend time adding features that in my view do not contribute to the sole task we are here for: building an encyclopaedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Russell
:@[[User:Gnu779|Gnu779]] Did you know you have a choice of five skins? See [[Wikipedia:Skin]]. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 19:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
::@Shantavira I know them. But how about wallpapers?
::Thanks, [[User:Gnu779|Gnu779]] ([[User talk:Gnu779|talk]]) 06:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


== List of pages using a shortcut ==
This is wrong and probably politically motivated:
He is known for promoting anti-vaccine misinformation, and public health–related conspiracy theories. [[Special:Contributions/131.106.111.164|131.106.111.164]] ([[User talk:131.106.111.164|talk]]) 14:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


Before deciding to retarget a redirect of a shortcut, it would be helpful to know the pages that are using the shortcut, so that any disruption by the retargeting can be considered in the decision to retarget. Is there some way to find that out?<br>
:IP editor, if you have a specific, sourced edit you wish to make to the article, you can make a request at [[WP:RFPP/E]]. Be very specific about the change you want made and be sure to provide at least one reliable source. There has been a great deal of disruption at the article, which is why both it and its talk page are extended-protected. [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 15:14, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
(I'm asking this question because of the discussion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_16#Wikipedia:PCR Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 16#Wikipedia:PCR], which resulted in a retargeting of a redirect that disrupted a section, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:How_to_apply_WP:NOR%27s_%22Directly_related%22_principle&oldid=932060024#Provide_context_for_the_reader Provide context for the reader], of a page that I was reading.)<br>
::Despite the misleading section header, the article in question is [[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]] [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 17:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
:::I've updated it. - [[User:AquilaFasciata | AquilaFasciata]] ([[User talk:AquilaFasciata |talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/AquilaFasciata |contribs]]) 18:04, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. [[User:Bob K31416|Bob K31416]] ([[User talk:Bob K31416|talk]]) 17:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
::I see that the first source supporting the assertion about his stance on vaccines was published in 2017. So, whichever vaccine he's against, it can't be one that was created since then, right? [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span>&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 17:54, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


:Unless I've misunderstood you, you can navigate to the redirect page (for example, go to [[WP:PCR]], and then pick "Redirected from PCR" at the top) and then pick "What links here" [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
== President_of_El_Salvador ==
::That was what I was looking for. Thanks. [[User:Bob K31416|Bob K31416]] ([[User talk:Bob K31416|talk]]) 21:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


== can i speak to a global renamer or steward ==
Someone please look into the President_of_El_Salvador page. I am not opening an account for this. It says, "The duration of the presidential term is five years and the president is eligible for reelection once consecutively as of 2021." That is phrased badly and probably incorrectly. That should probably say non-consecutively. [[Special:Contributions/72.204.78.102|72.204.78.102]] ([[User talk:72.204.78.102|talk]]) 17:36, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
:Hello, IP editor. That article is not protected, so you can edit it yourself without opening an account. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 17:44, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


please [[User:FeistyRooster|FeistyRooster]] ([[User talk:FeistyRooster|talk]]) 21:28, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
== Symbol meanings ==


:This is an en Wikipedia Helpdesk, there is information and contact info at [[:meta:Global renamers]] and [[:meta:Stewards]]. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 21:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
What do these lines under certain years mean on "Timeline of national flags?" For example, there is a line on the year 1708 in Angola's section, with no flag, so does it represent something like colonization, or something else? [[User:Hankhill240|Hankhill240]] ([[User talk:Hankhill240|talk]]) 18:04, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
::Where does the question belong? [[User:Tamfang|—Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 00:02, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] I meant that I wouldn't expect global renamers or stewards to frequent this help desk, which I could be wrong about, rather than that this is the wrong venue. There is a helpdesk at [[:meta:Help Forum]], I don't know much about it. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 03:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 22 =
:{{Courtesy link|Timeline of national flags}} - [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 18:23, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Hankhill240|Hankhill240]], in the case of Angola, it was a Portuguese colony until it gained independence in 1975; as best I can tell, those divisions correspond to the divisions down in Portugal's section, since those are the flags it would have been using. [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 18:31, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
:Your guess is right. Previously, these sections held the flag of the colonizing nation, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_national_flags&oldid=1155936259 in this rev] the flags were removed but the columns retained. [[User:WelpThatWorked|WelpThatWorked]] ([[User talk:WelpThatWorked|talk]]) 18:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


== Query re: Search Engine Optimization ==
== Date format ==


There was recently a very long thread at ANI about a user who was eventually site blocked. I won’t link to the thread because, frankly, life is too precious.
Hello there.
I am looking at where are told the guidelines for editing English Wikipedia?
Should we use English spellings?
SHould we use normal dates, ISO 8601 dates or... US dates (like I saw on a recent article)? [[User:Jesus2099|→ Tristan ♡]] ([[User talk:Jesus2099|talk]]) 18:21, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


The user was a promo-only account who initially attracted attention to themselves by opening multiple threads to try to rush 3 film articles through AfC. The stated aim of the user was to get the articles to appear on Google searches to coincide with the US release of one of the films – i.e. apparent search engine optimization (SEO), as can be seen here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_216#Incorrect_robots_meta_tag_on_live_article].
:@[[User:Jesus2099|Jesus2099]], those guidelines and others are part of our Manual of Style - [[WP:MOS]]. [[MOS:ENGVAR]], for instance, addresses your first question, and [[MOS:DATES]] your second. [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 18:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


The user also went to great lengths (again across multiple threads) trying unsuccessfully to remove PAID and/or COI tags from the articles.
= July 28 =


The intersection between these two aims is clarified by the user’s suggestion that {{tq|These tags negatively impact the articles' indexing and discoverability [in Google searches], reducing accessibility for readers. This is not about SEO but ensuring that notable topics are properly represented and accessible}}.
== Really disappointed to learn what Wikipedia did to Robert Kennedy jr.'s page. s ==


I’d be interested to hear from other users on the issue of whether or not the presence of such tags would represent a serious impediment to the aims of someone involved in SEO. The film mainly in question here ([[It's Coming (film)]]) currently has 2 tags and appears 5th on a Google search for “It’s Coming film” and not on the first few pages of results if searching for “It’s Coming” (which is evidently far too generic a search term).
He is unable to edit his own page [[Special:Contributions/2601:6C1:580:5DF0:63CF:E7BC:C681:9973|2601:6C1:580:5DF0:63CF:E7BC:C681:9973]] ([[User talk:2601:6C1:580:5DF0:63CF:E7BC:C681:9973|talk]]) 03:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:What kind of help are you asking for? [[Special:Contributions/119.245.86.251|119.245.86.251]] ([[User talk:119.245.86.251|talk]]) 03:49, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:He doesn't have a page, neither does Trump, Biden or Musk. ''Wikipedia'' has articles about ''them''. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 07:30, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:The subjects of Wikipedia articles can edit what's written about them as long as they do so in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies. They can also can seek assistance from others as explained [[:WP:BIOSELF|here]] and [[:WP:COIADVICE|here]]. However, there seems to be a strong tendency among many subjects of articles (and their representatives) to be more "[[:WP:NOTHERE|not here]]" than "[[:WP:HERE|here]]" when it comes to Wikipedia, and many try and claim some type of [[:WP:OWN|ownership over article content]]; so, that's when they start having problems. It's for such reasons subject's of articles (and their representatives) are strongly encouraged to seek assistance via one of Wikipedia's various processes instead of directly trying edit such articles themselves, except in some very specific and limited cases. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 08:25, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
::Do you represent Mr. Kennedy or are you just articulating a public statement he has made? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:28, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


Any input here would be much appreciated. [[User:Axad12|Axad12]] ([[User talk:Axad12|talk]]) 07:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== Two questions ==


:My own understanding is that Wikipedia has its own objectives, rules, and policies, and ignores the objectives of SEO agents. If an editor admits that his objective is SEO, I personally would be disinclined to cooperate with him. If I read the suggestion you quote in teal above, I'd respond "That's great – I hope you'll work on improving the article until an impartial editor removes those tags." [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 09:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
# The text in the editing field has changed since yesterday, from plain black to varying colours. Why, and can I change it back to original in preferences?
# Can timestamps in signatures be changed from UTC to local time zones? --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 15:11, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
#:1. I'm not sure which field you're referring to, is this the Visual Editor, Modern Source editor, something else? It sounds like maybe the syntax highlighting in the old source editor but I can't quite tell.
::In normal source editor. Yesterday is was normal. --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 15:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
#:2. You can install [[User:Mxn/CommentsInLocalTime | this userscript]]. [[User:WelpThatWorked|WelpThatWorked]] ([[User talk:WelpThatWorked|talk]]) 15:21, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
#:What do you mean by "varying colors?" Are different words different colors, or letters, or random?
#:As for the second one, you can just type three tildes (<code><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></code>) and it won't add the date and time. That said, everything on WP is done in UTC so that everyone has the same time reference, so I would say it shouldn't really be priority. If you need a reference, you can use [[WP:UTC]] to add a clock to the top right so that you can always look at that. - [[User:AquilaFasciata | AquilaFasciata]] ([[User talk:AquilaFasciata |talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/AquilaFasciata |contribs]]) 15:22, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
::In Finnish Wikipedia, timestamps are based on local Finnish time. --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 15:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:40bus|40bus]] As advised, Wikipedia uses UTC but if you wish to have timestamps rendered in your local time you can do that using a checkbox on [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets]] Looking a this thread, for example, I see the timestamps as UTC+1 as that's how I've set my preference since I'm in the UK (British Summer Time currently). Regarding the colours, I suspect you just inadvertently hit the pen icon in the source editor (just left of the word "Advanced" in the toolbar). You could toggle it back but in my experience editing with the colours on is really helpful. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 15:59, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


::See [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#user_Stan1900_and_the_films_of_Shannon_Alexander|this ANI thread]] for further views. The now-banned {{u|Stan1900}} has been remarkably effective at making enemies. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 09:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== How to add our company page in wikipedia ==
:::Well, quite so (in response to both of your posts above). The user almost went out of their way to advertise their promotional and SEO objectives and then behaved at ANI in such as way that their conduct there alone was enough to get them blocked.
:::However, my question is whether the existence of the tags interferes with attempts at search engine optimisation. And also, how does it interfere?
:::To some extent I'm inclined to briefly remove the tags and see if the article moves from #5 to #1 on the Google search, but I'm reluctant to make an edit for such a contrived and non wiki-related reason. If I put the names of some (relatively obscure) untagged films into Google they do tend to occupy the #1 spot in a search - so there would seem to be some evidence that the blocked user was rather knowledgeable on how tags influence SEO (possibly implying a promotional background?).
:::If COI/PAID tags do interfere with attempts at SEO then that can only be a good thing, of course. [[User:Axad12|Axad12]] ([[User talk:Axad12|talk]]) 10:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::The movie in question is [[It's Coming (film)]]. A Gooogle search for two common words like "it's coming" is going to produce countless false search results. But search terms "it's coming movie" and "it's coming film" have the Wikipedia article ranked about #5 on Google, which is pretty darned good. The film's own website and trailer and Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb rank higher. The specifics of Google's ever changing search algorithms are opaque, providing employment to countless SEO specialists. Of course, the prominent banners at the top of the article may deter prospective streaming viewers, but that is the result of the primary author behaving like a total ass in so many ways. The one constant that I have noticed over the years is that more comprehensive Wikipedia articles tend to rank higher than briefer articles, which is no surprise. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 10:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::And hence perhaps another reason for the user having wanted to pad out the article with a great number of positive quotes from reviews. Although, in fairness, there were other (entirely neutral) ways in which the article might have been lengthened if that had been the intention.
:::::However, that still leaves the question of why the user was so sure that {{tq|These tags negatively impact the articles' indexing and discoverability [in Google searches]}}.
:::::Obviously it's staggering that the user felt that non-conflicted users would find an SEO-based reasoning a compelling argument to remove the COI/PAID tags - but it seems reasonable to assume that he believed what he was saying. [[User:Axad12|Axad12]] ([[User talk:Axad12|talk]]) 11:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Google, and other search engine operators, do not reveal their criteria for evaluating pages, as that would make it too easy for people to game their evaluations. There are techniques that SEO people discuss and use; if you're interested, you'll be able to find such discussions. It seems to me likely that a long Wikipedia article will score higher than a short one, and that one with tags at the top will score lower. An SEO expert will know far more about these things than I do. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 12:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


== Witness statements as sources ==
I want to create page on Wikipedia our company [[User:Shahid.choudhary5|Shahid.choudhary5]] ([[User talk:Shahid.choudhary5|talk]]) 16:38, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


Should witness statements for court cases or public enquiries be used as sources for biographies of living people? I avoid it, even if they are available online (''public'' enqiry!), as they may contain information of a very personal nature about family, health, etc. or can end up making the article look like a CV. I might give a brief quote: "she said in her witness statement to the public enquiry..." if there is anything very important, although if it is important it is likely to be reported in the media, but not use the statement for details of someone's childhood, etc.
:@[[User:Shahid.choudhary5|Shahid.choudhary5]], you should read two pages very carefully: [[WP:PAID]] and [[Help:Your first article]]. The draft you attempted to create on your user page (which is not the right place for one) has no sources other than the company's website and does not demonstrate that your company is notable in any way.
I ask because another editor [[User:Strugglehouse|Strugglehouse]] is adding content from witness statements from the Horizon Inquiry to articles of living people, for example, to [[Paula Vennells]] and, potentially, [[Jo Hamilton]] and I haven't been able to find anything in reliable sources guidance about it, although I am sure I have seen something in the past. [[User:Southdevonian|Southdevonian]] ([[User talk:Southdevonian|talk]]) 12:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]].. [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 16:50, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:[[WP:BOSS|BOSS]] is another page that you might find helpful to read. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:51, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not like social media or a company's website. Articles here are not [[WP:OWN|owned by the company concerned]]. Once created, they can be edited by anyone, provided that person bases the information on reliable sources. As a result, [[WP:PROUD|the outcome might not be to the company's liking]]. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 16:54, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


:Hi, thanks for bringing this up. I used these sources as, as you mentioned, these are public.
== what are the rules ==
:While I do think some public documents shouldn't be used, I believe these are probably okay. Most very personal information within the couple of documents that I have used is redacted. Therefore, I think it's okay to use for some claims.
:I do agree, however, that if claims can be proven by other sources, such a the book source used in the [[Jo Hamilton (subpostmaster)|Jo Hamilton]] article, this is probably better. [[User:Strugglehouse|Strugglehouse]] ([[User talk:Strugglehouse|talk]]) 12:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::I think this might fall under [[WP:BLPPRIMARY]], which says {{tq|Exercise extreme caution in using primary sources. Do <strong><em>not</em></strong> use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do <strong><em>not</em></strong> use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses. Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it <em>may</em> be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, [[Wikipedia:NOR|no original research]], and the other sourcing policies}}. [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 14:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I think it's borderline. I agree that most of the time these kind of documents probably shouldn't be used. However, as I said, all actual personal details, such as dates of births, are redacted in the documents I used. [[User:Strugglehouse|Strugglehouse]] ([[User talk:Strugglehouse|talk]]) 14:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::The use of the absolute term “do not” especially in a section talking more broadly about other things to avoid is very clear. Furthermore, even when covered by secondary sources, which might be permissible, when it comes to testimony, [[WP:UNDue]] must be considered as well. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 15:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


== Vandalism help request from Bondwagon ==
what are the rules to write your own bio page. I see my brother page bernard pierre donnadieu. I want my own page. [[User:Donnadieu1950|Donnadieu1950]] ([[User talk:Donnadieu1950|talk]]) 17:46, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


I have noticed some persistent vandalism at [[Ijaw People]]. Namely, persistent change of the population figures to an outdated number, not reflecting updated figures and sources. Removal of multiple reliable sources confirming new figures and replacing with one outdated source still on old figure . Persistent valdalism carried out by da5ft9. A tribes population calling remain constant for over a decade, hence the single oudated population figure is null and the multiple recent population figure is correct. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, [[User:Bondwagon|Bondwagon]] ([[User talk:Bondwagon|talk]]) 13:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)<!--Reported via [[Help:Simple guide to vandalism cleanup]]-->
:@[[User:Donnadieu1950|Donnadieu1950]], the rule is that you must be notable by Wikipedia's standards - see [[WP:NPERSON]] - and have reliable, independent, published secondary sources to prove it. I highly, ''highly'' recommend reading the following pages: [[WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY]] and [[WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing]]. [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 17:55, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:{{Courtesy link|Bernard-Pierre Donnadieu}} for the curious - a completely unsourced article, unfortunately. [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 17:58, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


:Did you talked with the person you accuse to do this on his/her talk page ?
== Links translation (French/English) ==
:Each user have a '''"Talk page"'''. [[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] ([[User talk:Anatole-berthe|talk]]) 13:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::No, I did not speak with the person [[User:Bondwagon|Bondwagon]] ([[User talk:Bondwagon|talk]]) 14:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Bondwagon|Bondwagon]], please do not ask the same question four times. I've collapsed the duplicates below. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 14:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks you @[[User:CanonNi|CanonNi]] for your contribution. [[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] ([[User talk:Anatole-berthe|talk]]) 14:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::thank you [[User:Bondwagon|Bondwagon]] ([[User talk:Bondwagon|talk]]) 14:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Bondwagon|Bondwagon]] I would advise you to either open a discussion at the editor's talk page or the article's talk page to settle the matter. It seems that Da5ft9 has reverted you earlier because the sources added were irrelevant and unreliable (regarding this, I don't think the 101lasttribes source is reliable since Wikipedia is one of the places they took their information from). [[User:Jolly1253|Jolly1253]] ([[User talk:Jolly1253|talk]]) 14:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::101 last tribes excluded, there are other sources that should be considered and that are relaible too. If you take a loot at the sources, you will agree that not all should be discarded. Like I said earlier, it is highly unlikely that a tribes population will remain constant over multiple years.
::That being said, I will take your advise on the matter. [[User:Bondwagon|Bondwagon]] ([[User talk:Bondwagon|talk]]) 14:45, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


{{cot|Duplicate of above}}
hello,


== Vandalism help request from Bondwagon ==
I translate a French article to English.
What can I do about links to articles in French that have no equivalent in English?
Do I copy them as they are in the French version?
Is there a procedure to follow in this case? [[User:F1sxo|F1sxo]] ([[User talk:F1sxo|talk]]) 20:02, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:F1sxo|F1sxo]] You can use the template for inter-language links {{tl|ill}} if you judge that it is worth keeping the link in your English version of the article: to people for example. For other considerations, please read [[WP:TRANSLATE]]. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 20:06, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


== Long term edit-warring over controversies section: How to handle? ==


I have noticed some vandalism at [[ijawpeople]]. Namely, It has come to attention that there is ongoing vandalism of population figures, particularly the consistent removal of updated estimates supported by multiple reliable sources, such as the University of Birmingham, and their replacement with outdated figures from a single source, the CIA Factbook. This vandalism appears to be persistently carried out by user:da5ft9.
A few hours ago, while I was patrolling Recent Changes, I noticed an IP edit on [[Tony Aquila]] that did nothing but remove the controversies section with no other comment, so I reverted the edit. Hours later, I noticed that a brand-new account also came by and deleted the controversy section, so I took a quick look at the page's edit history and realized that this has been ongoing back and forth for months now.
It is important to note that a tribe's population is unlikely to remain stagnant over nearly a decade. For example, the CIA Factbook estimated the Ijaw population at 4 million in 2010, and this figure was recently relabeled as a 2018 estimate without any substantive update. This contradicts more recent and credible estimates provided by multiple sources, which suggest that the Ijaw population has grown significantly over time.
Given the discrepancy and the reliability of other sources, it is evident that these updated figures are far more accurate and reflective of reality. It is crucial to maintain data accuracy and prevent the suppression of validated information. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, [[User:Bondwagon|Bondwagon]] ([[User talk:Bondwagon|talk]]) 13:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)<!--Reported via [[Help:Simple guide to vandalism cleanup]]-->


== Vandalism help request from Bondwagon ==
On one hand, it seems odd to me that ''so many people'' are trying to blank this section, but on the other hand, it seems odd to me that so many people are trying to ''keep'' the section on such a seemingly minor page.


What would be the proper way to deal with something like this? Is there a noticeboard or some process to get a more experienced set of eyes on the situation? [[User:maybeitsmir|<span style="color:#FFB3DE">mir</span>]] [[User talk:maybeitsmir|<sup><small><span style="color:#87CEEB">:3</span></small></sup>]] 21:42, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


:The sources being used in the controversy section are absolutely not fit for a BLP, so until there is high quality secondary coverage it's a BLP violation. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 21:47, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
::Good to know, thanks for taking a look! [[User:maybeitsmir|<span style="color:#FFB3DE">mir</span>]] [[User talk:maybeitsmir|<sup><small><span style="color:#87CEEB">:3</span></small></sup>]] 22:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:::This doesn't mean that anybody's ''looked'' for the high quality secondary coverage. I see the [https://www.dallasnews.com/business/entrepreneurs/2019/09/23/ex-ceo-tony-aquila-s-lawsuit-against-solera-was-thrown-out-his-feud-isn-t-over/ Dallas News reporting on a feud]. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 14:01, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


I have noticed some vandalism at [[Ijaw people]]. Namely, It has come to attention that there is ongoing vandalism of population figures, particularly the consistent removal of updated estimates supported by multiple reliable sources, such as the University of Birmingham, and their replacement with outdated figures from a single source, the CIA Factbook. This vandalism appears to be persistently carried out by user:da5ft9.
It is important to note that a tribe's population is unlikely to remain stagnant over nearly a decade. For example, the CIA Factbook estimated the Ijaw population at 4 million in 2010, and this figure was recently relabeled as a 2018 estimate without any substantive update. This contradicts more recent and credible estimates provided by multiple sources, which suggest that the Ijaw population has grown significantly over time.
Given the discrepancy and the reliability of other sources, it is evident that these updated figures are far more accurate and reflective of reality. It is crucial to maintain data accuracy and prevent the suppression of validated information. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, [[User:Bondwagon|Bondwagon]] ([[User talk:Bondwagon|talk]]) 13:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)<!--Reported via [[Help:Simple guide to vandalism cleanup]]-->
{{cob}}


== 1909 French publication out of copyright? ==
= July 29 =


In [[Madagascar banana]] can we simply add direct translation of anything we want from pages 74 to 86 of https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/161596 as the author died in 1898 and it was published in 1909 so presumably it is out of copyright? [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 16:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== Question by [[User:Rtludwig]] ==
I am trying to add a photo to a page. I represent a university and I am trying to add a photo of the university's president to his Wikipedia page. The university owns the photo and has full rights to it. How can I add the photo to his page? [[User:Rtludwig|Rtludwig]] ([[User talk:Rtludwig|talk]]) 01:03, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


:Under French law. It is out of copyright if we are talking about the right of the author and his heirs.
:Hello, please read the welcome left on [[User talk:Rtludwig|talk page]] before doing anything regarding your [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. To upload a file, please go to [[Wikipedia:File upload wizard]], while noting the [[WP:Copyrights|copyright]] and [[WP:Image use policy|image use policy]]. If this is successfully done, I strongly recommend you [[WP:MAKINGEREQ|make a request]] to add the image to the article. Let me know if you have any more questions. Happy editing [[User:HeartGlow30797|'''<span style="color:red; text-shadow:#ffdf00 0.0em 0.0em 2.0em">Heart</span>''']] <sup><small>[[User talk:HeartGlow30797|''(talk)'']]</small></sup> 01:19, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:In France , the delay is 70 years after the death of the person. <br /> <br />
::OP now blocked. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:03, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:If you want , I can show you texts from French legislation and translate this into English for you. [[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] ([[User talk:Anatole-berthe|talk]]) 17:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


:It's in the public domain (it's out of copyright); so, as regards copyright, yes we can. However, if by simply adding you mean not using quotation marks (or block indentation) and not attributing the material to the author, no: for a Wikipedia editor to do either would be to plagiarize, which is unethical. Also, despite various hiccups, fads and mistakes, scientific understanding generally improves over the span of a century, and what was written and published commendably circa 1900 may later have been discredited. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== Page Deletion ==
:Thanks both of you. @[[User:Hoary|Hoary]] We have of course attributed the author. @[[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] Perhaps you might be interested in expanding https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensete_perrieri which only has English cites at the moment. As you can see the original description is very long so perhaps you might be able to summarize it in the French article? [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 16:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


:{{re|Chidgk1}} the original French is in the public domain. The English translation is a derived work and is copyrighted by default, with the copyright belonging to the translator. If you translated it yourself, you can license your translation under an appropriate license, e.g., [[CC-BY-SA]] or CC0. It might be better to put the originals French and you translation on [[Wikisource]] to preserve the provenance and have a place to put your copyright license. -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 19:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello, our page goy deleted automatically post publishing. Can you please help us with the same? Is there any changes required in the draft? [[Special:Contributions/103.72.72.163|103.72.72.163]] ([[User talk:103.72.72.163|talk]]) 04:24, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] My French is nowhere near good enough. So if we use Google Translate the copyright belongs to Google? @[[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] If so would you have time to translate it? [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 05:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:Nobody can possibly help you with anything unless you tell us the name of the article/draft. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 04:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:::Copyright doesn't belongs to "[[Google]]" if you use "[[Google Translate]]". <br /> <br />
:Hello, {{u|103.72.72.163}}. Since you have not identified the page or company in any way, and your IP has made no contributions to Wikipedia other than this post, it is impossible to know what article or draft or company you are talking about. There are many valid reasons for an attempted article (not "page", and not "your/your company's" page/article, but "Wikipedia's article about your company") to be deleted, as Wikipedia has strict standards about subject eligibility and about the structuring, referencing and style of articles, all of which an unpracticed editor is likely to get wrong. For example: Wikipedia ''only'' summarises what has been published about a subject by sources independent of it, and ''only'' seeks to neutrally inform (see [[WP:NPOV]]) – promotion of the subject in any way is forbidden.
:::If it was the case , it would not be possible to use '''"Google translate"''' with "[[Wikipedia:Content translation tool]]" in others Wikipedia than the version in English language '''(It's disabled on Wikipedia in English)'''. <br /> <br />
:If your company merits a Wikipedia article by being [[WP:Notable|Notable]] ''in Wikipedia's jargon sense of that term'' (''please'' follow the link and read), we are entirely happy to have one, but it should be mainly based on substantial published material from [[WP:Reliable sources|Reliable sources]] independent of the company, and once published should preferably not be directly edited by people personally connected to the company (although they can make edit requests for others to check and perform). Please be aware that the vast majority of companies in the world do ''not'' qualify as "notable".
:::Use an automatic translator can help but it's necessary to verify the translation given. <br /> <br />
:Please first learn some of our requirements by reading [[Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure|WP:PAID]], [[WP:NOT]], [[WP:Your first article]] and any other relevant policies etc. that other editors may suggest. Hopefully this will help get you on to the right track to achieving an acceptable article. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/51.198.140.169|51.198.140.169]] ([[User talk:51.198.140.169|talk]]) 04:59, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:::I advise you to read this "[[Help:Translation#Avoid_unedited_machine_translations]]". <br /> <br />
:The page [[goy]] is just fine. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 09:53, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:::I can translate texts from English to French but the reverse is more complicated for me and impossible for some texts.
::Oy! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/51.198.140.169|51.198.140.169]] ([[User talk:51.198.140.169|talk]]) 06:15, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
:::I'm a native speaker of French language , I haven't a sufficient knowledge of English language to translate from French to English. [[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] ([[User talk:Anatole-berthe|talk]]) 20:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::Please see: [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Copyright_for_Google_Translations] -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 20:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== timeline for responses to edit requests on extended-protected pages? ==
== Page Deletion ==


My page was deleted right after publishing. Can you help me with the reason for the same and how can I avoid this to happen agian? [[User:Christopher Charles Benninger|Christopher Charles Benninger]] ([[User talk:Christopher Charles Benninger|talk]]) 04:43, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
how long is it reasonable to wait for a response to an edit request on an extended-protected page? [[User:Kenfree|Kenfree]] ([[User talk:Kenfree|talk]]) 22:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


:There are no guideline about this subject in my knowledge but you should read this "[[Wikipedia:There is no deadline]]" and "[[Wikipedia:There is a deadline]]". [[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] ([[User talk:Anatole-berthe|talk]]) 22:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:Could you say the page name? 🛧[[User:Layah50|<span style="color:#1835FB;text-shadow:0.2em 0.2em 0.2em #3EACEB;">'''Layah50♪'''</span>]]🛪 (<small>[[User talk:Layah50|<span style="color:#0066cc;text-shadow:0.2em 0.1em 0.2em #ffcc00;"> '''話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!'''</span>]]</small>) 04:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
::thanks for these references [[User:Kenfree|Kenfree]] ([[User talk:Kenfree|talk]]) 03:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:Your user page was deleted as it is appeared to be a personal web page, which falls under our policy of [[WP:NOT|what Wikipedia is not]]. Please review [[WP:NOTWEBHOST]] before attempting to recreate your user page. Happy editing, [[User:HeartGlow30797|'''<span style="color:red; text-shadow:#ffdf00 0.0em 0.0em 2.0em">Heart</span>''']] <sup><small>[[User talk:HeartGlow30797|''(talk)'']]</small></sup> 04:59, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
::Hello, {{u|Christopher Charles Benninger}}. The purpose of your user page is to tell other Wikipedia editors about you ''as a Wikipedia editor'', such as mentioning encyclopedia articles that you have written and expanded, your plans to work on other articles, your thoughts about the encyclopedia, and so on. It is the wrong place to attempt to write an autobiography, and in any event, trying to write an autobiography is highly discouraged and very rarely successful. Please read [[WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY]], and please be aware that self-promotional activity of any type is not permitted on Wikipedia. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 07:20, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


:Hard to say, [[User:Kenfree|Kenfree]], but certainly no less than one week. As for your three-day-old request on [[Talk:Alison Weir (activist)]], I note that you placed it immediately below a section all but the first sentence of which is an enormity added by you in [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alison_Weir_(activist)&diff=prev&oldid=1263716894 this edit], made two days earlier than your request. Do you expect people to read and digest that section too? As for your request, it's in the form "Change: [text] To: [text with five numbers for references] The sources are here: [sentence including references]." If you (i) change "The sources are here" to "The same suggested replacement text, but with working links", and (ii) remove the line break, the result would be easier for others to understand. However far better than providing mere links would be to specify author(s), title, website and link for each of the five references. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== Wikipedia Entry: Creating a page without bias ==
::Yes,I think any editor with an interest in this page should be apprised of the point by point critique of its content by Weir's organization...As I said in summary, the Wikipedia entry on her in its current form reads more like a hit piece than an objective description of this activist.
::As to the rest of your reply, I will take it under advisement and follow your instructions to the best of my ability....thank you for it! [[User:Kenfree|Kenfree]] ([[User talk:Kenfree|talk]]) 02:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


:::So, {{u|Kenfree}}, you expect others to read your ten screensful of critique, but you haven't bothered to properly format the references in the material you want put in the article. You can expect to wait a very long time for a response. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 14:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia;
::{{u|Hoary}},I think I have succeeded in formatting according to your constructive criticism. Would you be kind enough to take a look at its current iteration and let me know if it is acceptable? Thanks. [[User:Kenfree|Kenfree]] ([[User talk:Kenfree|talk]]) 19:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to ask if it'd be possible to create a webpage, for the sake of better networking, and establishing definitive accomplishments. I did not want to create it myself, as it'd be a conflict of interest, but provide verifiable facts and resources to affirm honesty, integrity, and academic interest.
:::It's an improvement, [[User:Kenfree|Kenfree]], but let me reformat one of the references for you. <code><nowiki><ref>Paul Findley, "[https://www.wrmea.org/2006-december/why-was-the-palestinian-mother-of-eleven-murdered.html Why was the Palestinian mother of eleven murdered?]", Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, December 2006.</ref></nowiki></code>. Now you do the others. But wait -- one of the three references you provide for the claim that Weir "[chronicles] the bias in U.S. media coverage of Middle East events" is her own website (not a disinterested source for the claim); and at least one of the other four references is described in [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources]] as problematic (no, ''not'' as ''Daily Mail''&ndash;level garbage, but dubious even so). So I suggest that you ensure that each of the references you provide is likely to persuade, and then do the needed reformatting. Also, I second {{U|Maproom}}'s comment above. This [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alison_Weir_(activist)&diff=prev&oldid=1263716894 voluminous addition of yours] to the talk page even suggests that "Perhaps someone officially representing Wikipedia could reach out to Alison and ask her to help draft a more objective appraisal of her life and activism?" (I hardly know where to start with this; but in a word, ''no''.) Since nobody has yet responded on that talk page to your immense post, I suggest that you rethink what you want to say in it, prepare this via a text editor on your computer, condensing it to no more than one tenth of the bulk of what's there now, and when you're happy with it swiftly copy it and paste it to replace what's there now. If you want to do this, be sure to hurry, carrying out the replacement before your original post gets a comment. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::[[User:Hoary|Hoary]]:
::::1) I appreciate your reformating of the single citation which gives me a model to work from, which I will commence with as soon as I finish this reply.
::::2) You do not mention the periodical in question which is supposedly problematic so i cannot reply to this point.
::::3) As to the use of her own website, you seem to miss the point entirely. I adduce it because there is no better place to demonstrate that this is what Alison does as an activist, critique perceived media bias. All three of these latter citations do nothing else than demonstrate this activity on her part (not that her position is correct, in which case, yes, using her own website would be verboten, but just that this is the essence of her activism). If you want to contine this point please do so in the TALK pages of her entry, and we can futher debate it.
::::4) In deference to your request, I have seriously reduced the size of my earlier edit that Included the complete critique of the entry by her team, and cited only the part that directly pertains to the revision I am currently advocating. [[User:Kenfree|Kenfree]] ([[User talk:Kenfree|talk]]) 01:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::[[User:Kenfree|Kenfree]], this is sounding more promising. (And I suppose that it's looking so; though I don't intend to take a look. It wouldn't help your persuasiveness if any other editor appeared to be coaching you.) Just one point, on your observation number 2: I very deliberately didn't specify the periodical: Not specifying it would, I hoped, nudge you towards checking each magazine/website/whatever that you're thinking of citing against [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources]]. (Indeed, I suggest that you spend ten minutes grasping a general picture of what that page is doing before using it for specifics.) If a potential source doesn't appear on that page then go to [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard]] and within this, near the top, look for "Search the noticeboard archives". Immediately above this, type in the name of the source, and yes, click on "Search the noticeboard archives". It's quite likely that you'll get a dismaying number of hits; look among these for the newest that doesn't merely mention the source but instead has a discussion about it. (And with this comment, I take my leave of ''this'' discussion.) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 02:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 23 =
To date, I helped to create one of the 1st disability graduation stoles (entered and accepted by the Ward M.Canaday Center for Special Collections), co-founded Disability Cultural Centers United (a non-funded communications network spanning the US, focused on developing and fostering relations across academia), and published "How Rainman Ruined Autism's Image", connecting the film Rainman to the Autism genocide Clock of 2006, Judge Rotenberg's Center for Education, and the #StopTheShock movement.


== Wierdness with template:Title number ==
If this is not possible, I understand, and appreciate the honesty in both your response and practices. You're an invaluable resource to creating forms of research via references and citations. Thank you for what you do, and I hope that all is well.


Where is the best place for help on templates like [[:Template:Title number]]?
Sincerely,
Fletcher Grey


I've created [[User:Naraht/John%27s Foo season 4 contestants]] and grabbed the source for that template used SUBPAGENAME rather than BASEPAGENAME (since it is in my userspace and the first title number it generates is 39 and the second is 4 (the only one it generates should be 4.) My original issues were in Catspace and this is for experimentation. OTOH [[User:Naraht/Johns_Foo_season_4_contestants]] (note no quote) is fine. So it can't handle the apostrophe???[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 15:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
P.S. I can also forward citations, contacts, references, and proof of accomplishments whenever needed! [[Special:Contributions/24.140.179.37|24.140.179.37]] ([[User talk:24.140.179.37|talk]]) 18:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:{{Re|Naraht}} Yes, BASEPAGENAME and SUBPAGENAME are returning a version of the name where the apostrophe has been HTML-encoded as <code>&amp;#39;</code>. The workaround for this is to pass the name to [[:mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##titleparts|"#titleparts"]]. I've added two lines to your sandbox as a demonstration. Perhaps post at [[Template talk:Title number]] to ask if this should be done by default. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 15:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::Given the limited activity on the talk page (and indeed the template page), I decided to reach out to the original author of that template, but linked back here.[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 17:06, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
{{done}} Worked with template author who implemented {{U|John of Reading}}'s change.


== Help adding image to Infobox ==
:Wikipedia has '''articles''' and not just "webpages". This isn't just semantics, but an important distinction. You are correct that it is inadvisable to write about yourself, although it is not forbidden(see the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]]). Also note that an article about yourself is [[WP:PROUD|not necessarily a good thing]]. There are good reasons to not want one. You cannot lock an article about you to the text that you might prefer, or prevent others from editing it. Any information about you, good or bad, can be in an article about you as long as it appears in an independent [[WP:RS|reliable source]] and is not defamatory.
:However, if independent reliable sources give you significant coverage as to how you meet the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BIO|a notable person]], you could merit an article. It would be best if you allowed this to organically develop- by an independent editor taking note of coverage of you in reliable sources and choosing on their own to write about you- instead of attempting to force the issue by either soliciting someone to write about you or doing it yourself. However, you are welcome to post at [[WP:RA|Requested articles]] to make a request- although it is severely backlogged almost to the point of uselessness- or if you feel you can set aside everything you know about yourself and only summarize what others say about you, you can use the [[WP:WIZARD|article wizard]] to create and submit a draft for review by independent editors. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:25, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:To add to @[[User:331dot|331dot]]'s comment, you state that you wanted a Wikipedia article about yourself "''for the sake of better networking, and establishing definitive accomplishments''". I am afraid this it '''not what Wikipedia is for.'''
:Have a read of [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]] which explains this in more detail. If you want a place to network and show your accomplishments, then a better place is LinkedIn or a professional web page. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you, Qcne, and I apologize for possibly going against what Wikipedia stands for. I'm cognizant of the possible negatives that could happen, and appreciate the honesty you've brought forward. I apologize if there were responses here I didn't see, as I had to step away for awhile.
::In particular, I appreciate you saying not to force these things to happen, and for them to be organic. I've often put my nose where it wasn't welcome or shouldn't be, and hope that (at some point), I could end up as someone to further help the disabled cause. My former professor has an article because of his advocacy work. There's this weird feeling of pushing to make someone proud. Maybe there's time to reflect on that.
::I'll revisit this when I'm older. Reading these links was helpful. Because I asked, would my name be added to the list of names where creation of an article would become harder in the future? I wanted to ask just in case I've created undo trouble. [[Special:Contributions/24.140.179.37|24.140.179.37]] ([[User talk:24.140.179.37|talk]]) 20:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:::Don't worry - you did the right thing by asking and nothing will be held against you!
:::As your career progresses you may pass the [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)]] threshold and someone will create an article about you. Best of luck with your career, <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:20, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


Trying to put image in info box.
== Questioning the use of infinity in heat capacity ==


For this article: [[Nicholas Birns#Biography|Nicholas Birns - Wikipedia]]
Trying to visualize heat capacity scenarios I understand most but an infinite heat capacity could have business opportunity. I read an explanation whereby input doesn't get contributed correctly but for a time function wouldn't the time be infinite and not the heat capacity? I'm essentially questioning an infinite heat capacity, like space but not in context with this particular question? Still interested in potential limits to this definition. [[Special:Contributions/209.133.126.10|209.133.126.10]] ([[User talk:209.133.126.10|talk]]) 18:28, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
:You're better off asking at the [[Wikipedia:RD/S|science help desk]]. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 19:21, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


I am trying to place the subject's image in the infobox using the image in Wikimedia commons that is here:
== Election maps ==
How can I make my own proper election maps to use them for wikipedia? For example, the one similiar to the one used in the [[2022 French presidential election]]. Or like the one used in the [[2010 Bosnian general election]]. Are both of them made the same way, and if so is it using some kind of wiki app? [[User:Bakir123|Bakir123]] ([[User talk:Bakir123|talk]]) 21:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


[[commons:File:71735021568_2B229B72-7B34-435D-B94A-0D1DC717E17D.jpg|File:71735021568 2B229B72-7B34-435D-B94A-0D1DC717E17D.jpg - Wikimedia Commons]]


It won't show up in the correct place. Can you assist me? Grateful for help. [[User:Kmccook|Kmccook]] ([[User talk:Kmccook|talk]]) 18:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
= July 30 =


:Don't worry. I've placed the image at the right spot. Do you need any further assistance or questions regarding where to place images at the right spot? [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 18:45, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
== I screwed up editing my own bio ==


== Being harassed by user ==
Hi---- My bio was created by others and was incorrect and out of date etc-- so I wrote a new one, only in doing so, I deleted my photo an all the information in the box norm ally at the top right- in fact, that box no longer exists! Everything in that box was correct--- please help me get that back, along with the photo. THANKS and BLESSINGS . Tim Sullivan [[User:New Rebellion Entertainment|New Rebellion Entertainment]] ([[User talk:New Rebellion Entertainment|talk]]) 01:32, 30 July 2023 (UTC)


Hi. I believe I'm being harassed by an user who is going after any and all edits I'm making without reason getting rid of them. They use their wikipedia friends to gang up on me and intimidate me. They're getting rid of what I've added that is sourced and adding unsourced information or leaving it unsourced. [[User:Longislandtea|Longislandtea]] ([[User talk:Longislandtea|talk]]) 20:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:I've restored the previous version for now. I'm sure someone will advise you on updates. [[User:Knitsey|Knitsey]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|talk]]) 01:40, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

:This is not the forum to raise grievances with the behavior of other users. That is done at [[WP:ANI]], but be aware that your actions will be examined as well. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:You're not being harassed. You're engaging in an inappropriate behavior called [[Wikipedia:Genre warrior|genre warring]], and you're [[WP:NPA|making inappropriate accusations]] against people who are trying to explain the correct process to you. Your only steps forward right now are either to listen to what's being said, or to leave the article alone. [[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#324717">The</span><span style="color:#45631f">big</span><span style="color:#547826">ugly</span><span style="color:#68942f">alien</span>]] ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:sienna">talk</span>]]) 23:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:There is a difference between what [[WP:HA#NOT| feels like harassment]] and [[WP:HA| actual harassment]] which is not permitted. Rather what you find yourself in is a situation where you're having trouble understanding the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 00:57, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::Then please explain to me why genres that are sourced on the page of Fetch the bolt cutters are being removed for seemingly no reason? Aren't the genres supposed to be sourced? [[User:Longislandtea|Longislandtea]] ([[User talk:Longislandtea|talk]]) 02:59, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure I can explain it any better than @[[User:Tbhotch|User:Tbhotch]] has been trying to tell you at length for a while now. You have a few options going forward: You can solicit assistance in the form of a third opinion over at [[WP:THIRD]]. And, while 331dot mentioned [[WP:ANI]] I would discourage it because this does not actual meet the primary criteria of "urgent incidents or chronic, intractable behavioral problems" which despite your feelings this does not meet that criteria, instead I would suggest [[WP:DISPUTE]] as recommended by the ANI page. You could reach out to a [https://apersonbot.toolforge.org/recently-active/?admins recently active admin] but again I would suggest THIRD or DISPUTE processes first. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 04:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

= December 24 =

== Duplicative text on [[Help:Disambiguation]]? ==

Hi. I think there is a superfluous paragraph at the end of [[Help:Disambiguation]]. I added [[Help Talk:Disambiguation#Duplicative_text_on_this_page?|this topic]] to the Talk page asking about it. The automated help text told me that this particular Talk page is "not watched by many users" and suggested asking my question here. So: Is there a superfluous paragraph at the end of [[Help:Disambiguation]]? If the last two paragraphs say the same thing, one should be eliminated; if not, one or both should be rewritten to clarify the point each is trying to make. [[User:Larrydberg|Larrydberg]] ([[User talk:Larrydberg|talk]]) 00:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Larrydberg}} I guess [[User:Waddie96|Waddie96]] meant to reformulate the existing paragraph in [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Help:Disambiguation&diff=prev&oldid=1244184693] but forgot to remove the old version. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 01:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::I believe so. Apologies. I fixed the issue. <span style="color:#CD0000">[[User:Waddie96|waddie96]] ★ ([[User talk:Waddie96|talk]])</span> 07:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== Assistance Required for Published Article Not Going Live ==

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

I hope this message finds you well. I published an article on India Semiconductor Mission (username - Display Ecosystem) in November, and it has not gone live yet. The article draft can be found at the following link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DisplayEcosystem

I would like to understand the status of this article and whether there are any additional steps or issues preventing it from being moved to the live Wikipedia space. Your guidance on resolving this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time and assistance.

Best regards,
Sonali Jain [[User:DisplayEcosystem|DisplayEcosystem]] ([[User talk:DisplayEcosystem|talk]]) 05:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

:It's because all of that content is on your Userpage. If you want to publish it completely then you should move it to a new space. However, I'd move that content to a draft and continue working on it since it still doesn't look ready to me. Should I move it to a draft so you can continue working on it? [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 05:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::Please guide me on further steps to make it live. It would be really great if you could provide me with your valuable feedbacks on page and it's content. [[User:DisplayEcosystem|DisplayEcosystem]] ([[User talk:DisplayEcosystem|talk]]) 05:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes sure, you can move it to draft so that I can publish it again. [[User:DisplayEcosystem|DisplayEcosystem]] ([[User talk:DisplayEcosystem|talk]]) 05:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Sure, I'll create a draft for you but please keep working on the content to make it better and then publish it. [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 05:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::::What do you want the title to be? [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 05:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::The article is all about "India Semiconductor Mission". [[User:DisplayEcosystem|DisplayEcosystem]] ([[User talk:DisplayEcosystem|talk]]) 05:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::I have left a message on your talk page. If you are employed at India Semiconductor Mission, you are considered a paid editor and should make a paid contribution disclosure as explained in the message. Please also see [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]]. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 05:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I would like to clarify that I am not employed at India Semiconductor Mission. This page is being created for a government organization, which operates under the Ministry. Therefore, it should not be considered as a paid contribution.
:::::::I kindly request your guidance on any further enhancements or adjustments required to meet Wikipedia's standards. [[User:DisplayEcosystem|DisplayEcosystem]] ([[User talk:DisplayEcosystem|talk]]) 06:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::You would also be a paid editor if you are employed or paid by the Ministry. For advice on your draft, it currently has no sources apart from external links. Wikipedia does not care about what India Semiconductor Mission or the Ministry says about itself. You need to find reliable sources that are independent of India Semiconductor Mission and base the article on what those sources say. If no such sources can be found, the organization probably does not satisfy Wikipedia's [[WP:N|notability criteria]]. You can also read [[Help:Your first article]] for further advice. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 06:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:DisplayEcosystem|DisplayEcosystem]].
:Editors who try to create an article before they have spent significant time learning how Wikipedia works often have a disappointing and frustrating task, because they have no idea what it takes to create a Wikipedia article. It's like trying to build a house when you have no knowledge of surveying, building, plumbing, electrical installation, etc. And it's even harder when you have a [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]].
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}}
:Be aware that Wikipedia is basically not interested at all in what you know (whoever you are) or in what the subject of the article (or their associates) say or want to say. A Wikipedia article should be a summary of what people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject, and very little else. ''First'' find your sources (and make sure they are independent: see [[WP:42]]) ''then'' forget everything you know about the subject, and write a summary of what those sources say. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== I'm having problem with loging in😭😭😭😭😭😭 ==

I'm having problem with loging in😭😭😭😭😭😭 [[Special:Contributions/41.122.130.103|41.122.130.103]] ([[User talk:41.122.130.103|talk]]) 17:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:What happens when you use [[Special:Login]]? <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 17:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== Flag of Syria ==

How can I change current Syrian flag in the page [[List of songs recorded by Zecchino d'Oro]] with the 1980-2024 version? [[Special:Contributions/176.200.157.77|176.200.157.77]] ([[User talk:176.200.157.77|talk]]) 17:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:This discussion might be helpful: [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Syrian_flag]] [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 17:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== George Washington ==

It states in the Wikipedia, George Washington, political party - independent. I believe that to be incorrect and he was a member of the Whig. [[Special:Contributions/2601:3C4:17C:3F0:64CC:8BE9:5A55:2B9E|2601:3C4:17C:3F0:64CC:8BE9:5A55:2B9E]] ([[User talk:2601:3C4:17C:3F0:64CC:8BE9:5A55:2B9E|talk]]) 19:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

:If you wish to change it, you will need to provide a reliable source backing up your claim. [[User:Tutwakhamoe|Tutwakhamoe]] ([[User talk:Tutwakhamoe|talk]]) 20:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:In my knowledge he was never member of any political party. <br /> <br />
:About "[[George Washington]]" , I verified if my knowledge were wrong and I confirm he was never member of a political party accorded to searches done. [[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] ([[User talk:Anatole-berthe|talk]]) 21:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== Ahir cast surname add ==

Ahir cast 1 gujrati sAhirurname add chhaida છૈડા [[Special:Contributions/2409:4041:E4E:24F8:0:0:9D09:8B08|2409:4041:E4E:24F8:0:0:9D09:8B08]] ([[User talk:2409:4041:E4E:24F8:0:0:9D09:8B08|talk]]) 21:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

:This forum is only about '''"Wikipedia in English language"''' and not '''"Wikipedia in another language"'''. [[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] ([[User talk:Anatole-berthe|talk]]) 22:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:Are you asking to add something to [[Ahir]] or to [[Ahir clans]]? If so, the talk page of the relevant article is the best place to ask. But be aware that unless a [[WP:RS|reliable published source]] is found, information may not be added to Wikipedia articles. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

[[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:55B0:810:5C4F:E631:B09C:2AEE|2600:1700:55B0:810:5C4F:E631:B09C:2AEE]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:55B0:810:5C4F:E631:B09C:2AEE|talk]]) 22:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== Citing YouTube video is not allowed, what can I do? ==

Hello all!

I was revising a page about a TV drama and citing YouTube interviews of the actors which are rejected by the system.
I ended up mentioning the year and program of the interviews, which got entirely removed by Rastinition, which I believe should be Wikipedia.

What can I do? Not sure if it is a piece of information that will make a difference, the language I am amending is traditional Chinese. [[User:Cwcw12|Cwcw12]] ([[User talk:Cwcw12|talk]]) 23:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

:If you are speaking about '''"Wikipedia in Chinese language"'''. You're not on the right forum.
:This is the forum for '''"Wikipedia in English"'''. <br /> <br />
:The right forum is the next if you're talking about Wikipedia in Chinese language : https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88/%E6%B1%82%E5%8A%A9 [[User:Anatole-berthe|Anatole-berthe]] ([[User talk:Anatole-berthe|talk]]) 23:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

= December 25 =

Latest revision as of 00:06, 25 December 2024

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    December 21

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    This page is great but I placed the name by which he was known on top of the info box - should it be inside it ? (please see my citation which has his full title: The Hon. Marshall Jones Brooks)

    Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 02:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Full name and title can be placed in either the lede sentence or the infobox. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 03:35, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I cannot work out how to place the name and title IN the actual info box. Please assist. Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 08:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Srbernadette I think that the infobox "rugby biography" is designed so the name doesn't go into the box. See this example in the template documentation. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:02, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I wished Wikipedia supported wallpapers in pages...

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    It would be even more awesome if we could change the wallpaper of pages in Wikipedia. But the fonts' colors could change to adapt to the wallpaper. The button for that might look like this: Change wallpaper Gnu779 (talk) 10:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, @Gnu779. The place to suggest features is WP:VPR ColinFine (talk) 10:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! You replied quickly! Gnu779 (talk) 11:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I will add that personally, I do not want the WP developers to spend time adding features that in my view do not contribute to the sole task we are here for: building an encyclopaedia. ColinFine (talk) 15:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gnu779 Did you know you have a choice of five skins? See Wikipedia:Skin. Shantavira|feed me 19:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Shantavira I know them. But how about wallpapers?
    Thanks, Gnu779 (talk) 06:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    List of pages using a shortcut

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    Before deciding to retarget a redirect of a shortcut, it would be helpful to know the pages that are using the shortcut, so that any disruption by the retargeting can be considered in the decision to retarget. Is there some way to find that out?
    (I'm asking this question because of the discussion Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 16#Wikipedia:PCR, which resulted in a retargeting of a redirect that disrupted a section, Provide context for the reader, of a page that I was reading.)
    Thanks. Bob K31416 (talk) 17:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Unless I've misunderstood you, you can navigate to the redirect page (for example, go to WP:PCR, and then pick "Redirected from PCR" at the top) and then pick "What links here" ColinFine (talk) 17:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That was what I was looking for. Thanks. Bob K31416 (talk) 21:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    can i speak to a global renamer or steward

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    please FeistyRooster (talk) 21:28, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This is an en Wikipedia Helpdesk, there is information and contact info at meta:Global renamers and meta:Stewards. TSventon (talk) 21:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Where does the question belong? —Tamfang (talk) 00:02, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Tamfang I meant that I wouldn't expect global renamers or stewards to frequent this help desk, which I could be wrong about, rather than that this is the wrong venue. There is a helpdesk at meta:Help Forum, I don't know much about it. TSventon (talk) 03:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    December 22

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    Query re: Search Engine Optimization

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    There was recently a very long thread at ANI about a user who was eventually site blocked. I won’t link to the thread because, frankly, life is too precious.

    The user was a promo-only account who initially attracted attention to themselves by opening multiple threads to try to rush 3 film articles through AfC. The stated aim of the user was to get the articles to appear on Google searches to coincide with the US release of one of the films – i.e. apparent search engine optimization (SEO), as can be seen here [1].

    The user also went to great lengths (again across multiple threads) trying unsuccessfully to remove PAID and/or COI tags from the articles.

    The intersection between these two aims is clarified by the user’s suggestion that These tags negatively impact the articles' indexing and discoverability [in Google searches], reducing accessibility for readers. This is not about SEO but ensuring that notable topics are properly represented and accessible.

    I’d be interested to hear from other users on the issue of whether or not the presence of such tags would represent a serious impediment to the aims of someone involved in SEO. The film mainly in question here (It's Coming (film)) currently has 2 tags and appears 5th on a Google search for “It’s Coming film” and not on the first few pages of results if searching for “It’s Coming” (which is evidently far too generic a search term).

    Any input here would be much appreciated. Axad12 (talk) 07:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    My own understanding is that Wikipedia has its own objectives, rules, and policies, and ignores the objectives of SEO agents. If an editor admits that his objective is SEO, I personally would be disinclined to cooperate with him. If I read the suggestion you quote in teal above, I'd respond "That's great – I hope you'll work on improving the article until an impartial editor removes those tags." Maproom (talk) 09:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See this ANI thread for further views. The now-banned Stan1900 has been remarkably effective at making enemies. Maproom (talk) 09:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, quite so (in response to both of your posts above). The user almost went out of their way to advertise their promotional and SEO objectives and then behaved at ANI in such as way that their conduct there alone was enough to get them blocked.
    However, my question is whether the existence of the tags interferes with attempts at search engine optimisation. And also, how does it interfere?
    To some extent I'm inclined to briefly remove the tags and see if the article moves from #5 to #1 on the Google search, but I'm reluctant to make an edit for such a contrived and non wiki-related reason. If I put the names of some (relatively obscure) untagged films into Google they do tend to occupy the #1 spot in a search - so there would seem to be some evidence that the blocked user was rather knowledgeable on how tags influence SEO (possibly implying a promotional background?).
    If COI/PAID tags do interfere with attempts at SEO then that can only be a good thing, of course. Axad12 (talk) 10:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The movie in question is It's Coming (film). A Gooogle search for two common words like "it's coming" is going to produce countless false search results. But search terms "it's coming movie" and "it's coming film" have the Wikipedia article ranked about #5 on Google, which is pretty darned good. The film's own website and trailer and Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb rank higher. The specifics of Google's ever changing search algorithms are opaque, providing employment to countless SEO specialists. Of course, the prominent banners at the top of the article may deter prospective streaming viewers, but that is the result of the primary author behaving like a total ass in so many ways. The one constant that I have noticed over the years is that more comprehensive Wikipedia articles tend to rank higher than briefer articles, which is no surprise. Cullen328 (talk) 10:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And hence perhaps another reason for the user having wanted to pad out the article with a great number of positive quotes from reviews. Although, in fairness, there were other (entirely neutral) ways in which the article might have been lengthened if that had been the intention.
    However, that still leaves the question of why the user was so sure that These tags negatively impact the articles' indexing and discoverability [in Google searches].
    Obviously it's staggering that the user felt that non-conflicted users would find an SEO-based reasoning a compelling argument to remove the COI/PAID tags - but it seems reasonable to assume that he believed what he was saying. Axad12 (talk) 11:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Google, and other search engine operators, do not reveal their criteria for evaluating pages, as that would make it too easy for people to game their evaluations. There are techniques that SEO people discuss and use; if you're interested, you'll be able to find such discussions. It seems to me likely that a long Wikipedia article will score higher than a short one, and that one with tags at the top will score lower. An SEO expert will know far more about these things than I do. Maproom (talk) 12:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Witness statements as sources

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    Should witness statements for court cases or public enquiries be used as sources for biographies of living people? I avoid it, even if they are available online (public enqiry!), as they may contain information of a very personal nature about family, health, etc. or can end up making the article look like a CV. I might give a brief quote: "she said in her witness statement to the public enquiry..." if there is anything very important, although if it is important it is likely to be reported in the media, but not use the statement for details of someone's childhood, etc. I ask because another editor Strugglehouse is adding content from witness statements from the Horizon Inquiry to articles of living people, for example, to Paula Vennells and, potentially, Jo Hamilton and I haven't been able to find anything in reliable sources guidance about it, although I am sure I have seen something in the past. Southdevonian (talk) 12:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, thanks for bringing this up. I used these sources as, as you mentioned, these are public.
    While I do think some public documents shouldn't be used, I believe these are probably okay. Most very personal information within the couple of documents that I have used is redacted. Therefore, I think it's okay to use for some claims.
    I do agree, however, that if claims can be proven by other sources, such a the book source used in the Jo Hamilton article, this is probably better. Strugglehouse (talk) 12:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think this might fall under WP:BLPPRIMARY, which says Exercise extreme caution in using primary sources. Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses. Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies. Schazjmd (talk) 14:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it's borderline. I agree that most of the time these kind of documents probably shouldn't be used. However, as I said, all actual personal details, such as dates of births, are redacted in the documents I used. Strugglehouse (talk) 14:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The use of the absolute term “do not” especially in a section talking more broadly about other things to avoid is very clear. Furthermore, even when covered by secondary sources, which might be permissible, when it comes to testimony, WP:UNDue must be considered as well. TiggerJay(talk) 15:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Vandalism help request from Bondwagon

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    I have noticed some persistent vandalism at Ijaw People. Namely, persistent change of the population figures to an outdated number, not reflecting updated figures and sources. Removal of multiple reliable sources confirming new figures and replacing with one outdated source still on old figure . Persistent valdalism carried out by da5ft9. A tribes population calling remain constant for over a decade, hence the single oudated population figure is null and the multiple recent population figure is correct. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Bondwagon (talk) 13:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Did you talked with the person you accuse to do this on his/her talk page ?
    Each user have a "Talk page". Anatole-berthe (talk) 13:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I did not speak with the person Bondwagon (talk) 14:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bondwagon, please do not ask the same question four times. I've collapsed the duplicates below. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 14:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks you @CanonNi for your contribution. Anatole-berthe (talk) 14:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    thank you Bondwagon (talk) 14:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bondwagon I would advise you to either open a discussion at the editor's talk page or the article's talk page to settle the matter. It seems that Da5ft9 has reverted you earlier because the sources added were irrelevant and unreliable (regarding this, I don't think the 101lasttribes source is reliable since Wikipedia is one of the places they took their information from). Jolly1253 (talk) 14:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    101 last tribes excluded, there are other sources that should be considered and that are relaible too. If you take a loot at the sources, you will agree that not all should be discarded. Like I said earlier, it is highly unlikely that a tribes population will remain constant over multiple years.
    That being said, I will take your advise on the matter. Bondwagon (talk) 14:45, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Duplicate of above

    Vandalism help request from Bondwagon

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    I have noticed some vandalism at ijawpeople. Namely, It has come to attention that there is ongoing vandalism of population figures, particularly the consistent removal of updated estimates supported by multiple reliable sources, such as the University of Birmingham, and their replacement with outdated figures from a single source, the CIA Factbook. This vandalism appears to be persistently carried out by user:da5ft9. It is important to note that a tribe's population is unlikely to remain stagnant over nearly a decade. For example, the CIA Factbook estimated the Ijaw population at 4 million in 2010, and this figure was recently relabeled as a 2018 estimate without any substantive update. This contradicts more recent and credible estimates provided by multiple sources, which suggest that the Ijaw population has grown significantly over time. Given the discrepancy and the reliability of other sources, it is evident that these updated figures are far more accurate and reflective of reality. It is crucial to maintain data accuracy and prevent the suppression of validated information. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Bondwagon (talk) 13:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Vandalism help request from Bondwagon

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    I have noticed some vandalism at Ijaw people. Namely, It has come to attention that there is ongoing vandalism of population figures, particularly the consistent removal of updated estimates supported by multiple reliable sources, such as the University of Birmingham, and their replacement with outdated figures from a single source, the CIA Factbook. This vandalism appears to be persistently carried out by user:da5ft9. It is important to note that a tribe's population is unlikely to remain stagnant over nearly a decade. For example, the CIA Factbook estimated the Ijaw population at 4 million in 2010, and this figure was recently relabeled as a 2018 estimate without any substantive update. This contradicts more recent and credible estimates provided by multiple sources, which suggest that the Ijaw population has grown significantly over time. Given the discrepancy and the reliability of other sources, it is evident that these updated figures are far more accurate and reflective of reality. It is crucial to maintain data accuracy and prevent the suppression of validated information. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Bondwagon (talk) 13:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    1909 French publication out of copyright?

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    In Madagascar banana can we simply add direct translation of anything we want from pages 74 to 86 of https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/161596 as the author died in 1898 and it was published in 1909 so presumably it is out of copyright? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Under French law. It is out of copyright if we are talking about the right of the author and his heirs.
    In France , the delay is 70 years after the death of the person.

    If you want , I can show you texts from French legislation and translate this into English for you. Anatole-berthe (talk) 17:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's in the public domain (it's out of copyright); so, as regards copyright, yes we can. However, if by simply adding you mean not using quotation marks (or block indentation) and not attributing the material to the author, no: for a Wikipedia editor to do either would be to plagiarize, which is unethical. Also, despite various hiccups, fads and mistakes, scientific understanding generally improves over the span of a century, and what was written and published commendably circa 1900 may later have been discredited. -- Hoary (talk) 23:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks both of you. @Hoary We have of course attributed the author. @Anatole-berthe Perhaps you might be interested in expanding https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensete_perrieri which only has English cites at the moment. As you can see the original description is very long so perhaps you might be able to summarize it in the French article? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Chidgk1: the original French is in the public domain. The English translation is a derived work and is copyrighted by default, with the copyright belonging to the translator. If you translated it yourself, you can license your translation under an appropriate license, e.g., CC-BY-SA or CC0. It might be better to put the originals French and you translation on Wikisource to preserve the provenance and have a place to put your copyright license. -Arch dude (talk) 19:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arch dude My French is nowhere near good enough. So if we use Google Translate the copyright belongs to Google? @Anatole-berthe If so would you have time to translate it? Chidgk1 (talk) 05:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Copyright doesn't belongs to "Google" if you use "Google Translate".

    If it was the case , it would not be possible to use "Google translate" with "Wikipedia:Content translation tool" in others Wikipedia than the version in English language (It's disabled on Wikipedia in English).

    Use an automatic translator can help but it's necessary to verify the translation given.

    I advise you to read this "Help:Translation#Avoid_unedited_machine_translations".

    I can translate texts from English to French but the reverse is more complicated for me and impossible for some texts.
    I'm a native speaker of French language , I haven't a sufficient knowledge of English language to translate from French to English. Anatole-berthe (talk) 20:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please see: [2] -Arch dude (talk) 20:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    timeline for responses to edit requests on extended-protected pages?

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    how long is it reasonable to wait for a response to an edit request on an extended-protected page? Kenfree (talk) 22:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    There are no guideline about this subject in my knowledge but you should read this "Wikipedia:There is no deadline" and "Wikipedia:There is a deadline". Anatole-berthe (talk) 22:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    thanks for these references Kenfree (talk) 03:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hard to say, Kenfree, but certainly no less than one week. As for your three-day-old request on Talk:Alison Weir (activist), I note that you placed it immediately below a section all but the first sentence of which is an enormity added by you in this edit, made two days earlier than your request. Do you expect people to read and digest that section too? As for your request, it's in the form "Change: [text] To: [text with five numbers for references] The sources are here: [sentence including references]." If you (i) change "The sources are here" to "The same suggested replacement text, but with working links", and (ii) remove the line break, the result would be easier for others to understand. However far better than providing mere links would be to specify author(s), title, website and link for each of the five references. -- Hoary (talk) 23:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes,I think any editor with an interest in this page should be apprised of the point by point critique of its content by Weir's organization...As I said in summary, the Wikipedia entry on her in its current form reads more like a hit piece than an objective description of this activist.
    As to the rest of your reply, I will take it under advisement and follow your instructions to the best of my ability....thank you for it! Kenfree (talk) 02:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So, Kenfree, you expect others to read your ten screensful of critique, but you haven't bothered to properly format the references in the material you want put in the article. You can expect to wait a very long time for a response. Maproom (talk) 14:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hoary,I think I have succeeded in formatting according to your constructive criticism. Would you be kind enough to take a look at its current iteration and let me know if it is acceptable? Thanks. Kenfree (talk) 19:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's an improvement, Kenfree, but let me reformat one of the references for you. <ref>Paul Findley, "[https://www.wrmea.org/2006-december/why-was-the-palestinian-mother-of-eleven-murdered.html Why was the Palestinian mother of eleven murdered?]", Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, December 2006.</ref>. Now you do the others. But wait -- one of the three references you provide for the claim that Weir "[chronicles] the bias in U.S. media coverage of Middle East events" is her own website (not a disinterested source for the claim); and at least one of the other four references is described in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources as problematic (no, not as Daily Mail–level garbage, but dubious even so). So I suggest that you ensure that each of the references you provide is likely to persuade, and then do the needed reformatting. Also, I second Maproom's comment above. This voluminous addition of yours to the talk page even suggests that "Perhaps someone officially representing Wikipedia could reach out to Alison and ask her to help draft a more objective appraisal of her life and activism?" (I hardly know where to start with this; but in a word, no.) Since nobody has yet responded on that talk page to your immense post, I suggest that you rethink what you want to say in it, prepare this via a text editor on your computer, condensing it to no more than one tenth of the bulk of what's there now, and when you're happy with it swiftly copy it and paste it to replace what's there now. If you want to do this, be sure to hurry, carrying out the replacement before your original post gets a comment. -- Hoary (talk) 23:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hoary:
    1) I appreciate your reformating of the single citation which gives me a model to work from, which I will commence with as soon as I finish this reply.
    2) You do not mention the periodical in question which is supposedly problematic so i cannot reply to this point.
    3) As to the use of her own website, you seem to miss the point entirely. I adduce it because there is no better place to demonstrate that this is what Alison does as an activist, critique perceived media bias. All three of these latter citations do nothing else than demonstrate this activity on her part (not that her position is correct, in which case, yes, using her own website would be verboten, but just that this is the essence of her activism). If you want to contine this point please do so in the TALK pages of her entry, and we can futher debate it.
    4) In deference to your request, I have seriously reduced the size of my earlier edit that Included the complete critique of the entry by her team, and cited only the part that directly pertains to the revision I am currently advocating. Kenfree (talk) 01:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Kenfree, this is sounding more promising. (And I suppose that it's looking so; though I don't intend to take a look. It wouldn't help your persuasiveness if any other editor appeared to be coaching you.) Just one point, on your observation number 2: I very deliberately didn't specify the periodical: Not specifying it would, I hoped, nudge you towards checking each magazine/website/whatever that you're thinking of citing against Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. (Indeed, I suggest that you spend ten minutes grasping a general picture of what that page is doing before using it for specifics.) If a potential source doesn't appear on that page then go to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard and within this, near the top, look for "Search the noticeboard archives". Immediately above this, type in the name of the source, and yes, click on "Search the noticeboard archives". It's quite likely that you'll get a dismaying number of hits; look among these for the newest that doesn't merely mention the source but instead has a discussion about it. (And with this comment, I take my leave of this discussion.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    December 23

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    Wierdness with template:Title number

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    Where is the best place for help on templates like Template:Title number?

    I've created User:Naraht/John's Foo season 4 contestants and grabbed the source for that template used SUBPAGENAME rather than BASEPAGENAME (since it is in my userspace and the first title number it generates is 39 and the second is 4 (the only one it generates should be 4.) My original issues were in Catspace and this is for experimentation. OTOH User:Naraht/Johns_Foo_season_4_contestants (note no quote) is fine. So it can't handle the apostrophe???Naraht (talk) 15:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Naraht: Yes, BASEPAGENAME and SUBPAGENAME are returning a version of the name where the apostrophe has been HTML-encoded as &#39;. The workaround for this is to pass the name to "#titleparts". I've added two lines to your sandbox as a demonstration. Perhaps post at Template talk:Title number to ask if this should be done by default. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Given the limited activity on the talk page (and indeed the template page), I decided to reach out to the original author of that template, but linked back here.Naraht (talk) 17:06, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

     Done Worked with template author who implemented John of Reading's change.

    Help adding image to Infobox

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    Trying to put image in info box.

    For this article: Nicholas Birns - Wikipedia

    I am trying to place the subject's image in the infobox using the image in Wikimedia commons that is here:

    File:71735021568 2B229B72-7B34-435D-B94A-0D1DC717E17D.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

    It won't show up in the correct place. Can you assist me? Grateful for help. Kmccook (talk) 18:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Don't worry. I've placed the image at the right spot. Do you need any further assistance or questions regarding where to place images at the right spot? Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 18:45, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Being harassed by user

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    Hi. I believe I'm being harassed by an user who is going after any and all edits I'm making without reason getting rid of them. They use their wikipedia friends to gang up on me and intimidate me. They're getting rid of what I've added that is sourced and adding unsourced information or leaving it unsourced. Longislandtea (talk) 20:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This is not the forum to raise grievances with the behavior of other users. That is done at WP:ANI, but be aware that your actions will be examined as well. 331dot (talk) 20:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're not being harassed. You're engaging in an inappropriate behavior called genre warring, and you're making inappropriate accusations against people who are trying to explain the correct process to you. Your only steps forward right now are either to listen to what's being said, or to leave the article alone. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There is a difference between what feels like harassment and actual harassment which is not permitted. Rather what you find yourself in is a situation where you're having trouble understanding the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia. TiggerJay(talk) 00:57, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Then please explain to me why genres that are sourced on the page of Fetch the bolt cutters are being removed for seemingly no reason? Aren't the genres supposed to be sourced? Longislandtea (talk) 02:59, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not sure I can explain it any better than @User:Tbhotch has been trying to tell you at length for a while now. You have a few options going forward: You can solicit assistance in the form of a third opinion over at WP:THIRD. And, while 331dot mentioned WP:ANI I would discourage it because this does not actual meet the primary criteria of "urgent incidents or chronic, intractable behavioral problems" which despite your feelings this does not meet that criteria, instead I would suggest WP:DISPUTE as recommended by the ANI page. You could reach out to a recently active admin but again I would suggest THIRD or DISPUTE processes first. TiggerJay(talk) 04:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Duplicative text on Help:Disambiguation?

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    Hi. I think there is a superfluous paragraph at the end of Help:Disambiguation. I added this topic to the Talk page asking about it. The automated help text told me that this particular Talk page is "not watched by many users" and suggested asking my question here. So: Is there a superfluous paragraph at the end of Help:Disambiguation? If the last two paragraphs say the same thing, one should be eliminated; if not, one or both should be rewritten to clarify the point each is trying to make. Larrydberg (talk) 00:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Larrydberg: I guess Waddie96 meant to reformulate the existing paragraph in [3] but forgot to remove the old version. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe so. Apologies. I fixed the issue. waddie96 ★ (talk) 07:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Assistance Required for Published Article Not Going Live

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    Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

    I hope this message finds you well. I published an article on India Semiconductor Mission (username - Display Ecosystem) in November, and it has not gone live yet. The article draft can be found at the following link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DisplayEcosystem

    I would like to understand the status of this article and whether there are any additional steps or issues preventing it from being moved to the live Wikipedia space. Your guidance on resolving this matter would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you for your time and assistance.

    Best regards, Sonali Jain DisplayEcosystem (talk) 05:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It's because all of that content is on your Userpage. If you want to publish it completely then you should move it to a new space. However, I'd move that content to a draft and continue working on it since it still doesn't look ready to me. Should I move it to a draft so you can continue working on it? Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 05:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please guide me on further steps to make it live. It would be really great if you could provide me with your valuable feedbacks on page and it's content. DisplayEcosystem (talk) 05:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes sure, you can move it to draft so that I can publish it again. DisplayEcosystem (talk) 05:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, I'll create a draft for you but please keep working on the content to make it better and then publish it. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 05:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What do you want the title to be? Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 05:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article is all about "India Semiconductor Mission". DisplayEcosystem (talk) 05:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have left a message on your talk page. If you are employed at India Semiconductor Mission, you are considered a paid editor and should make a paid contribution disclosure as explained in the message. Please also see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would like to clarify that I am not employed at India Semiconductor Mission. This page is being created for a government organization, which operates under the Ministry. Therefore, it should not be considered as a paid contribution.
    I kindly request your guidance on any further enhancements or adjustments required to meet Wikipedia's standards. DisplayEcosystem (talk) 06:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You would also be a paid editor if you are employed or paid by the Ministry. For advice on your draft, it currently has no sources apart from external links. Wikipedia does not care about what India Semiconductor Mission or the Ministry says about itself. You need to find reliable sources that are independent of India Semiconductor Mission and base the article on what those sources say. If no such sources can be found, the organization probably does not satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria. You can also read Help:Your first article for further advice. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 06:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, @DisplayEcosystem.
    Editors who try to create an article before they have spent significant time learning how Wikipedia works often have a disappointing and frustrating task, because they have no idea what it takes to create a Wikipedia article. It's like trying to build a house when you have no knowledge of surveying, building, plumbing, electrical installation, etc. And it's even harder when you have a conflict of interest.
    My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.
    Be aware that Wikipedia is basically not interested at all in what you know (whoever you are) or in what the subject of the article (or their associates) say or want to say. A Wikipedia article should be a summary of what people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject, and very little else. First find your sources (and make sure they are independent: see WP:42) then forget everything you know about the subject, and write a summary of what those sources say. ColinFine (talk) 12:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm having problem with loging in😭😭😭😭😭😭

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    I'm having problem with loging in😭😭😭😭😭😭 41.122.130.103 (talk) 17:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What happens when you use Special:Login? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 17:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Flag of Syria

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    How can I change current Syrian flag in the page List of songs recorded by Zecchino d'Oro with the 1980-2024 version? 176.200.157.77 (talk) 17:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This discussion might be helpful: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Syrian_flag Schazjmd (talk) 17:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    George Washington

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    It states in the Wikipedia, George Washington, political party - independent. I believe that to be incorrect and he was a member of the Whig. 2601:3C4:17C:3F0:64CC:8BE9:5A55:2B9E (talk) 19:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If you wish to change it, you will need to provide a reliable source backing up your claim. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 20:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In my knowledge he was never member of any political party.

    About "George Washington" , I verified if my knowledge were wrong and I confirm he was never member of a political party accorded to searches done. Anatole-berthe (talk) 21:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Ahir cast surname add

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    Ahir cast 1 gujrati sAhirurname add chhaida છૈડા 2409:4041:E4E:24F8:0:0:9D09:8B08 (talk) 21:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This forum is only about "Wikipedia in English language" and not "Wikipedia in another language". Anatole-berthe (talk) 22:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you asking to add something to Ahir or to Ahir clans? If so, the talk page of the relevant article is the best place to ask. But be aware that unless a reliable published source is found, information may not be added to Wikipedia articles. ColinFine (talk) 23:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    2600:1700:55B0:810:5C4F:E631:B09C:2AEE (talk) 22:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    

    Citing YouTube video is not allowed, what can I do?

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    Hello all!

    I was revising a page about a TV drama and citing YouTube interviews of the actors which are rejected by the system. I ended up mentioning the year and program of the interviews, which got entirely removed by Rastinition, which I believe should be Wikipedia.

    What can I do? Not sure if it is a piece of information that will make a difference, the language I am amending is traditional Chinese. Cwcw12 (talk) 23:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If you are speaking about "Wikipedia in Chinese language". You're not on the right forum.
    This is the forum for "Wikipedia in English".

    The right forum is the next if you're talking about Wikipedia in Chinese language : https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88/%E6%B1%82%E5%8A%A9 Anatole-berthe (talk) 23:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    December 25

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