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== Request for Further Guidance on Article Submission == |
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== NFL players at [[WP:AFC]] == |
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Dear KylieTastic, |
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Thank you for your review of my article submission. I appreciate your feedback regarding the [[references]] and the [[notability]] of the subject. |
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I would like to improve the article and ensure it meets the notability criteria for Wikipedia. Could you please guide me on the following: |
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What specific types of references would be considered more appropriate or substantial to establish notability? |
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Are there any specific sources or kinds of coverage (e.g., academic publications, in-depth media articles) that would be more helpful? |
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If additional references are necessary, how can I best demonstrate the subject’s significance in independent, reliable secondary sources? |
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For your reference, here is the draft link: [[Draft:Toula_Gordillo]] |
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I’m committed to improving the article and would appreciate any further advice you can provide to help me meet the guidelines for resubmission. |
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Thank you for your time and assistance. [[User:SyedTayyab560|SyedTayyab560]] ([[User talk:SyedTayyab560|talk]]) 19:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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⚫ | :Hi [[User:SyedTayyab560|SyedTayyab560]], most of the sources are primary, i.e. by the subject or closely related. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See [[WP:N]]) which in most cases requires significant coverage ([[WP:SIGCOV]]) in multiple independent ([[WP:INDY]]) reliable sources ([[WP:RS]]). So you need to look for independent sources that talk about the subject or the subjects work. Also you can't have a source that says "Courier-Mail Archives" with no details to a date/page/title etc so someone can locate the source. Regards [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 19:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::Dear Kylie, |
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::Thank you for your helpful feedback regarding the draft. I understand that the sources I have used so far are primarily from the subject or closely related to the subject, and I will work on finding more independent, reliable secondary sources that meet Wikipedia's notability and significant coverage guidelines. |
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::Regarding the "Courier-Mail Archives" source, I will ensure that I provide the necessary details (date, page, title, etc.) so it can be properly located. |
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::If you have any specific suggestions for where I might find more suitable sources or if there are any types of publications that are particularly valuable for establishing notability, I would greatly appreciate your advice. |
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::Thank you again for your time and assistance. [[User:SyedTayyab560|SyedTayyab560]] ([[User talk:SyedTayyab560|talk]]) 19:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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What resources should I use I thought the funeral home one on Joseph A. Burgundy was fine but what else should I use? [[User:Doodledoo4|Doodledoo4]] ([[User talk:Doodledoo4|talk]]) 21:54, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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I noticed that you tend to decline a lot of submissions at [[WP:AFC]] on NFL players. However, most of them are notable. A simple Newspapers.com search will get many of these drafts published. I often don't have time to keep up with your speed! I hope I don't trouble you too much by asking you to leave the reviews up to me. [[User:Scorpions1325|Scorpions1325]] ([[User talk:Scorpions1325|talk]]) 02:52, 29 October 2023 (UTC) |
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* Hi {{u|Scorpions1325}}, that is the basic premiss of the Draft+AfC process: pick a notable topic, find the sources, write the bare minimum to show nobility and submit. However we have one or more submitters that just create very minimal articles without showing nobility. Although many NFL players are notable many are not which is why the old WP:GRIDIRON nobility was dropped. Even when that was the only requirement many minimal submissions had factual errors as they appear to be just quick copy-hack-submit-repeat. So all the details needed to be checked and still many didn't even show enough to pass the very low bar [[WP:GRIDIRON]] was (i.e. has played in 1 NFL game). For instance a recent decline was [[Draft:Jim Hendley]] but the nfl.com career page shows no NFL games and the pro-football-reference.com/ has no games logged. Anyone can take a list of probably notable subjects and spam out articles. But no, if editors submit with zero effort they will be declined so we can find and accept the work of submitters putting effort in and need their work accepted asap. However, for your purpose if your interested in NFL bios just use [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=incategory%3A%22Pending+AfC+submissions%22+insource%3A%22Infobox+NFL+biography%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns118=1 this search] for current NFL submissions, or [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=incategory%3A%22Declined+AfC+submissions%22+insource%3A%22Infobox+NFL+biography%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns118=1 this search] for declined ones or just use [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22Infobox+NFL+biography%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns118=1 this search] to find all drafts using "Infobox NFL biography". However, if you want to review AfC drafts you should request access to the tool at [[WP:AFC/P]]. That tool helps remove the AfC template like you left [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Charles_Henry_Alston_(lawyer)&diff=prev&oldid=1182434228 here], also it will assist with project tagging, cats, informing submitters etc. and other changes that help others/wiki-projects find newly accepted acticles. Regards [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 10:13, 29 October 2023 (UTC) |
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** <small>Came across this discussion after it was mentioned at [[WP:ANI#IP constantly resubmitting AfC submissions]]</small> – <small>FWIW, in my view the reason NGRIDIRON was dropped wasn't specifically because of its merits but as part of the crossfire from attacks on ridiculously lenient criteria such as NFOOTBALL – the criterion IMO actually worked pretty well as the {{abbr|vast majority of NFL players are notable|I admit the IP's submissions have a lower notability rate than for the average NFL player, as they focus on the most obscure ones, but the GNG rate is still probably around ~75% in my opinion}}</small> – each of submissions do show evidence for the players playing in the NFL – note that NFL.com seems to be incomplete when it comes to those types of players, but you can always find those games listed on the players' pro-football-reference pages – the IP kind of has to rely on others to demonstrate the notability as the coverage is almost always exclusively available in the paywalled Newspapers.com – Per [[User talk:BeanieFan11/Archive 9|messages on my talk page]], the IP seems to create them with the intention that I (or Scorpions) will eventually clean it up, as I have access to the sources but not the time to create the articles whereas the IP has the time to create them but doesn't have access to the sources. It would probably work if their submissions were placed in some sort of category "Reserved AFC submissions for Scorpions1325 and BeanieFan11" – do you know whether that'd be possible? [[User:BeanieFan11|BeanieFan11]] ([[User talk:BeanieFan11|talk]]) 21:50, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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KylieTastic...[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation&diff=prev&oldid=1264591827] would you mind leaving me one(as it would be awkward to have self awarded myself...I did not), thanks and Merry Christmas, Ozzie--[[User:Ozzie10aaaa|Ozzie10aaaa]] ([[User talk:Ozzie10aaaa|talk]]) 15:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC) |
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**:@[[User:BeanieFan11|BeanieFan11]], if they had created an account they would have had Wikipedia Library access years ago, also for some I'm sure some sources exist on google. They still could at any point. If you can get them to talk to you great. If they agree to just add a category rather than submit to AfC then I'm sure we can get them unblocked. So that it does not break [[WP:DRAFTNOCAT]] it would have to be something like [[:Category:Drafts about American Football]] or [[:Category:Drafts about American Football Players]]. I do the same you do for these just for for other subjects, I have multiple searches to find submissions or drafts in progress I work on getting accepted. Note that Dogloverr16 has [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=incategory%3A%22Pending+AfC+submissions%22+insource%3A%22u%3DDogloverr16%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns118=1 these] mostly American Football submissions waiting which need less work just checking that would probably be easier for you and {{u|Scorpions1325}} if your interested. Cheers [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 13:02, 4 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:I wish you had not asked as it makes if feel somewhat awkward, but I had already had the intention to do so as I realised you were on the list so I have just done what I intended to do anyway. Also thank you for thinking to thank others and give some positive feedback (something often missing on here). Happy holidays and on to 2025.... Cheers [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 19:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== for posting new artical == |
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==Top AfC Editor== |
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Hello sir, |
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this is my own artical and this is my own website(submited url in artical). |
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There are no copywright issue my side and my website |
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this is a public content write my website |
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artical is write orignal not copyed and submit two destination my website and wiki. |
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please sir remove my error and publis my artical |
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Thank you sir |
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Narendra Choudhary [[User:Narendra13078|Narendra13078]] ([[User talk:Narendra13078|talk]]) 13:06, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* {{u|Narendra13078}}, firstly [[Draft:Winter Fashion]] is not an encyclopedic article so is not suitable at all. It is a blog post and opinion piece. Secondly see your own website [https://www.fashionxyz.in/p/terms.html terms] "You must not: ... Republish material from Fashion XYZ...Reproduce, duplicate or copy material from Fashion XYZ..." [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 13:10, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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==[[Draft:Yusif Meizongo Jnr]] changes made== |
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Hello thank you for reviewing my article. I have made the corrections as you earlier indicated. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Heatrave|Heatrave]] ([[User talk:Heatrave#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Heatrave|contribs]]) 18:15, 3 November 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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|style="vertical-align: center; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | In 2024 you were one of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Top_AfC_reviewers#Last_1_year top AfC editors], thank you! --[[User:Ozzie10aaaa|Ozzie10aaaa]] ([[User talk:Ozzie10aaaa|talk]]) 13:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Request on 17:51:47, 23 December 2024 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by MarcosNogas == |
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:Hi {{u|Heatrave}}, if you have finished updating please re-submit. Your in luck as there is a backlog clearing drive on at the moment so a quick review is more likely. Regards [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 18:31, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== Can you explain your edit note? == |
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What can I do about this if there is only ONE source for the information about this list, and this source is cited on the article. |
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I spent days looking for it. |
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Or, at least, where could I publish this list? |
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<!-- End of message -->[[User:MarcosNogas|MarcosNogas]] ([[User talk:MarcosNogas|talk]]) 17:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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On [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Nadeem_Ahmed_Siddiqui&diff=1183351587&oldid=1183346098| this] - I am reading it as shorthand for "revert more" - but that doesn't compute to me, so I must be wrong. Just want to understand the note/reason for the rv. Thanks [[User:Picard's Facepalm|Picard's Facepalm]] ([[User talk:Picard's Facepalm|talk]]) 19:52, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* Hey {{u|Picard's Facepalm}}, yes it was "revert more" - you have reverted one part of {{u|2001:8f8:1361:1b9:a820:d5d:a378:5d7d}}s edit but the other part was an invalid image, so the article needed to be reverted back one more version. Plus I reverted the other edit from probably the same editor as an unsourced addition. Nice name btw - made me smile :) Regards [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 19:55, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*:Okaaaaay..... so the interim solution is to revert a revert which restores the problem I reverted - instead of going back one more version or otherwise you editing further? Sorry that I did not see the other edit in question - I was simply going off of [[Special:RecentChanges]], and it is not an article I regularly patrol or monitor. I would think that [[WP:SOFIXIT]] would be more constructive vs. reverting to a problematic edit? Nonetheless - I will take a deeper look and try to encompass both of those changes, and perhaps others - though that will take me 2/3rds of the way to a 3RR. Thanks for the explanation. [[User:Picard's Facepalm|Picard's Facepalm]] ([[User talk:Picard's Facepalm|talk]]) 20:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*::{{u|Picard's Facepalm}} sorry I just saw what happened rather than what I thought I had done! It's been a long week and I'm a little slow :/ I thought I had reverted the other edit the anon made but see I mucked up and just reverted your reversion - hence your obvious (now) confusion. Sorry about that. Make that a ''KylieTastic Facepalm''. Cheers [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 20:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*:::No worries - is all good. Thanks again for the explain. :) [[User:Picard's Facepalm|Picard's Facepalm]] ([[User talk:Picard's Facepalm|talk]]) 14:29, 6 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:Hi [[User:MarcosNogas|MarcosNogas]], all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See [[WP:N]]) which in most cases requires significant coverage ([[WP:SIGCOV]]) in multiple independent ([[WP:INDY]]) reliable sources ([[WP:RS]]). So if the only source is google themselves and no one else then it will not meet the guidelines for inclusion on English Wikipedia. As for where else you could publish, sorry I have ideas for others sites that would be suitable. Regards [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 18:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Revoke TPA Joeypike2021 == |
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Why are you declined articles.It was simple and Reference was Available and I'm was improving it.Please accept it [[User:Nnn edits|Nnn edits]] ([[User talk:Nnn edits|talk]]) 20:50, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*:What is about the user page. [[User:Nnn edits|Nnn edits]] ([[User talk:Nnn edits|talk]]) 20:52, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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I don't really feel like edit warring trying to help with the removal of the disruption, and I had to do it twice. Can you revoke @[[User:Joeypike2021|Joeypike2021]]'s tpa access because I am tired as heck and I have a flight tomorrow. Thanks in advance. [[User:DACartman|DACartman]] ([[User talk:DACartman|talk]]) 21:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Hi there. == |
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I now see that @[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] has done it, and would like to thank him, and also apologize to you for wasting your time. Have a good night.[[User:DACartman|DACartman]] ([[User talk:DACartman|talk]]) 21:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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I want to know why the ADTEC shah alam article is denied? |
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:Hey @[[User:DACartman|DACartman]], I would have done if I was an admin but I'm not, no worries anyway your not wasting my time trying to shutdown idiots. Have a good flight and a good holidays. Cheers [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 22:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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it is quite similar to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_Latihan_Perindustrian_Kuala_Lumpur |
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== Happy Holidays == |
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Thank you [[User:Editing and contributing|Editing and contributing]] ([[User talk:Editing and contributing|talk]]) 09:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* Hi {{u|Editing and contributing}}, unfortunately there are a lot of existing articles that are not good and need to be improved or deleted. With 6.7 million articles, cleaning up old ones takes a lot of volunteer time. I have tagged that article for attention. As for [[Draft:Advanced Technology Centre Shah Alam]] all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See [[WP:N]]) which in most cases requires significant coverage ([[WP:SIGCOV]]) in multiple independent ([[WP:INDY]]) reliable sources ([[WP:RS]]). Most of the content in unsourced and it has no independent sources to show notability. Regards [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 09:57, 6 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*:Alright. Thank you for the information and advice. Does Wikipedia accept sources in other languages? ILPKL and ADTEC Shah Alam are like the oxford and cambridge of advanced training centres in Malaysia, and they do have coverage from national television, local news and websites. Many people here are skill based which is why they go to training centres. |
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*:If it is acceptable, I'll try to reference them properly. If not, what can be done? |
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*:Thanks. [[User:Editing and contributing|Editing and contributing]] ([[User talk:Editing and contributing|talk]]) 10:02, 6 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*::@[[User:Editing and contributing|Editing and contributing]], yes sources can be in any language. [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 10:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC) |
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'''Hello KylieTastic, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this [[Christmas and holiday season|seasonal occasion]]. Spread the [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]] and a [[New Year|Happy New Year]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. <br />Happy editing,'''<br /> |
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[[User:Abishe|Abishe]] ([[User talk:Abishe|talk]]) 23:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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''{{resize|96%|Spread the love by adding {{tls|Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.}}'' |
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* {{u|Ddllggpro}} it's not "the truth" - it's just a social media post. This is an Encyclopedia. [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 21:14, 6 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Request for Further Guidance on Article Submission
[edit]Dear KylieTastic, Thank you for your review of my article submission. I appreciate your feedback regarding the references and the notability of the subject. I would like to improve the article and ensure it meets the notability criteria for Wikipedia. Could you please guide me on the following: What specific types of references would be considered more appropriate or substantial to establish notability? Are there any specific sources or kinds of coverage (e.g., academic publications, in-depth media articles) that would be more helpful? If additional references are necessary, how can I best demonstrate the subject’s significance in independent, reliable secondary sources? For your reference, here is the draft link: Draft:Toula_Gordillo I’m committed to improving the article and would appreciate any further advice you can provide to help me meet the guidelines for resubmission. Thank you for your time and assistance. SyedTayyab560 (talk) 19:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi SyedTayyab560, most of the sources are primary, i.e. by the subject or closely related. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So you need to look for independent sources that talk about the subject or the subjects work. Also you can't have a source that says "Courier-Mail Archives" with no details to a date/page/title etc so someone can locate the source. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Kylie,
- Thank you for your helpful feedback regarding the draft. I understand that the sources I have used so far are primarily from the subject or closely related to the subject, and I will work on finding more independent, reliable secondary sources that meet Wikipedia's notability and significant coverage guidelines.
- Regarding the "Courier-Mail Archives" source, I will ensure that I provide the necessary details (date, page, title, etc.) so it can be properly located.
- If you have any specific suggestions for where I might find more suitable sources or if there are any types of publications that are particularly valuable for establishing notability, I would greatly appreciate your advice.
- Thank you again for your time and assistance. SyedTayyab560 (talk) 19:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]What resources should I use I thought the funeral home one on Joseph A. Burgundy was fine but what else should I use? Doodledoo4 (talk) 21:54, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Fake source KylieTastic (talk) 21:58, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]KylieTastic...[1] would you mind leaving me one(as it would be awkward to have self awarded myself...I did not), thanks and Merry Christmas, Ozzie--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I wish you had not asked as it makes if feel somewhat awkward, but I had already had the intention to do so as I realised you were on the list so I have just done what I intended to do anyway. Also thank you for thinking to thank others and give some positive feedback (something often missing on here). Happy holidays and on to 2025.... Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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In 2024 you were one of the top AfC editors, thank you! --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC) |
- MarcosNogas (talk · contribs)
What can I do about this if there is only ONE source for the information about this list, and this source is cited on the article.
I spent days looking for it.
Or, at least, where could I publish this list?
MarcosNogas (talk) 17:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi MarcosNogas, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So if the only source is google themselves and no one else then it will not meet the guidelines for inclusion on English Wikipedia. As for where else you could publish, sorry I have ideas for others sites that would be suitable. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Revoke TPA Joeypike2021
[edit]I don't really feel like edit warring trying to help with the removal of the disruption, and I had to do it twice. Can you revoke @Joeypike2021's tpa access because I am tired as heck and I have a flight tomorrow. Thanks in advance. DACartman (talk) 21:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
I now see that @Bbb23 has done it, and would like to thank him, and also apologize to you for wasting your time. Have a good night.DACartman (talk) 21:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @DACartman, I would have done if I was an admin but I'm not, no worries anyway your not wasting my time trying to shutdown idiots. Have a good flight and a good holidays. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy Holidays
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